Since it’s been a while since I included a conspiracy theory to chew on….
I read this
There will be no survivors from Esau.
Thought ooh! that’s edgy
and began researching.
I came to find this
Contrary to what others may claim, it doesn’t appear to refer to a race or geographic region. This would align with canonical references to such things as examples of wrongdoing, not the reason for it as wrong….being?
Anyway, here’s some quotes, it’s thought-provoking.
Or…. plain provoking, for those of you who can’t read and think.
“The question of the identity of the Edomites is a matter of great importance as we come into the latter days. What is the essential spiritual character of an Edomite? And as we shall discover, this is the key to the matter, not bloodlines or race.
Certainly the Edomite spirit has and still does track down through families. But any person of any race can become an Edomite by an adoption of that Edomite spirit. At its essence the Edomite identity is a spiritual way of feeling, thinking, and acting. It is not just a matter of DNA or ancestral lineage.
Being an Edomite is a matter of character and a certain jaded or negative disposition to God and to anyone who upholds anything that lifts up the banner of holiness or righteousness.“
So…. evil is hating good, really?
I guess like how the Anti-Christ is anyone who opposes Christ’s goals?
Why are these things always so damn vague?
If it’s so important, you’d think they’d provide details on how to spot evil people.
Especially if they’re your own relations, (later).
“The spirit of Esau is a parasite upon the souls of men. It never forgives. Nor will it receive forgiveness. So the human hearts over which it rules remain “unforgiven”.
The idea that everyone is forgiven is fundamentally un-Christian. It never says that. It’s got, like, a bajillion asterisks, and that’s the rest of the books.
The Edomite nurses his anger; he “keeps his wrath forever”. And he never surrenders to God. He remains “unforgiven”. He never finds peace with God, peace with his fellow man, or peace with himself. Unless he repents, he cannot be saved from the wrath to come. Rejecting the blood of atonement for sin he remains bloody minded in himself. Such a soul hates everyone around him. He goes to the judgment shaking his fist at God. And descends into the fires of perdition in a torment that will last forever.”
” In this act of spiritual neglect he showed that he had very little interest in his spiritual inheritance. He was an earthy man, and a phallic sort of a man. Esau was a hustler, an exploiter of others and what others had, rather than a nurturer of plants and animals.He was motivated to “go out and get” things rather than to establish things and watch them grow. He preferred to ‘take down’ what he wanted in the wild. A life of cultivating plants and tending to the flocks was not for him. He sneered at culture. He rejoiced in being uncultured. Being wild at heart and a hustler was a badge of honor to him. We can certainly see that same rebellious and bullying spirit rising in our Western culture today. It is now becoming a matter of grave concern in our schools.”
Ah, high time preference.
“Esau wants HIS notion of freedom.
He demands freedom to express himself in any – – – – way he pleases!”
Pride is the worst sin, and really, the first. The dam-breaker of sins.
Looking like weakness parodying male strength, to me. Not even male.
The migration patterns are pretty solid ‘r’.
“Esau’s descendants are a different story. They are forever angry at God, angry at Israel, and and angry with themselves. They never repent. And so their doom is certain. Their final judgment was prophesied over them by the prophet Obadiah and mentioned in other places as well.”
So the question becomes, are the modern Israeli, the Israelites the Bible cites?
If you know much history… probably not.
“So as we search out the story of the Edomites we need to keep an open view here. We also need to our eyes wide open for a reappearance of people groups that scholars and historians have found it expedient to throw into the dustbin of history. Yes, this is sad but true. The dissemination of misinformation is often found to be socially or politically expedient. Churchmen are inclined to proclaim certain untruths because of pressures that are brought to bear upon them. They are “leaned upon” by the powers of this world to keep the masses “quiet”. This hiding of the truth is probably good for the masses. But God’s covenant people are going up to witness in the latter days. So these people not only deserve the truth but they will have an appetite for the truth. They will seek the Truth and find Him. And He will guide them and tell them everything they need to know.
Alright. Like IKEA furniture.
Others do not need to know.
So they won’t know.”
cough r/K cough cough
“Babylon is another interesting issue. Babylon was an ancient very worldly sophisticated and advanced civilization. It was conquered by the Medo-Persians in 586 B.C.. So the Babylonian Empire ceased to exist as such. And yet the Bible clearly speaks of a resurgence of the very same worldly spirit of Babylon. Mystery Babylon will be a presiding influence over a prominent civilization that will rise up to assume a key role in the end-time drama. In Revelation 17 and 18 we see a world system that the Bible calls Mystery Babylon. And where are the people of this Mystery Babylon to be found? It is unrealistic to expect that we can find end-time Mystery Babylon by poking around the ruins of the ancient city of Babylon 50 miles south of Baghdad in modern Iraq. This would be a useless exercise. That ancient ruin, contrary to what some are saying, will never be rebuilt. That old archeological dig will never again be the center of world commerce, world military power, and the wellspring of material sophistication that it once was. But according to the Holy Scriptures another highly sophisticated society will arise in the latter days, assume world dominion, and take on the name “Mystery Babylon”. This too is an identification that can only be achieved by discernment of spirits.“
me, talking to myself
My money is on America.
“If the Edomites are around today might they be found in nations such as ours. Are they here with us among the people of the West? Why not? The richest nations are to be found in Western civilization. Isaac’s blessing states, “Behold your dwelling shall be of the fatness of the earth.””
Maybe China? As the influence?
Pick a name out of a hat at this point.
“If you are a Christian believer then why fantasize about defeating the New World Order if the scriptures declare quite plainly that you cannot win?”
I distinctly recall something about selling cloaks.
Instructions were unclear.
“As for Esau’s spiritual and/or physical descendants just what can we expect from them? The prophets are uniform in their assessment of Esau’s character. He is a profane personality, a man of the flesh. He despises his spiritual birthright and ignores the blessings God has offered him. He doesn’t have time for the holy things of God. He will never repent. He has always eluded the flows of grace and he is always angry when he perceives that this present world system has dealt him the short straw or a “raw deal”.
victim mentality, check
He is also prone to become angry at God and other covenant partners such as his spouse or sexual partner, his business or work partners, or those who are in authority over him.
That doesn’t necessarily mean official, does it? Hates one’s betters.
He is prone to rages and fits of anger and the people close to him are at greatest risk for his domestic violence.”
“So Esau is forever angry. Apparently nothing short of God’s intervention, can stop his fierce rage.”
Who do we know, that hates anyone vaguely traditional?
The married with children nuclear-family types.
Basically, beware of the anti-natal.
“The Edomites live on. But tracking down the Edomites is not a matter of just tracing bloodlines, races, and migrations of people. The spirit of Esau lives on in the lives of many people. There are black sheep in many families. So it is not unreasonable to expect that many of the modern day Edomites can be found in the civilized nations, even sitting on church pews among the Judeo-Christian people in those rich countries of the West.
Here is the point that must be hammered home. The Edomites are people who have entrained within them a certain spirit. It is the wild hustling exploiting spirit of Esau. So the search for the Edomites should go way beyond our obsessions with geneologies, bloodlines, and DNA. The spirit of Edom still contests for the souls of men. Its seed is in the culture, the music, the movies, the books. And a look at our culture today shows Esau is taking over the hearts and souls of many as the days grow more and more evil.”
Degenerate, the word you need.