gay science part 2

part 1

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2017/10/15/gay-wheres-the-science/

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/lgbtq-facts/#comment-6291

Many misconceptions held by brainwashed Americans.

“Jeffrey” writes

I also wanted to inquire as to if in my previous comment I abided effectively by your 3 specified rules. The civility part seems to be a non-issue. However, what about the other rules? Religion has no right to claim a monopoly on the subject of marriage. Fundamentalist Christian types are opposed to abortion, however, that has not been made illegal. Of course, the U.S. was based on religious freedom, not religious supremacy. There are other freedoms as well, not just religious freedom. Some people claim that homosexuality is a sin, that homosexual behavior is sinful. Now, if people are born gay, that claim holds no water. If people woke up and decided to be gay, that claim may be legitimate. You say nature did not select gay people to be parents for good reason. What about women that still have ovaries? What if the pregnancies of lesbian couples are the result of those kept intact and sperm donations? In that case, your claim could be refutable. There is also no scientific support that same sex parenting is bad, at least none that has been reported insofar as I know. Some talking points regarding same sex parenting is that kids will inevitably become gay. As if that is actually a bad thing. Want to know why there are gay and lesbian people in our world’s population? Blame the straight parents in some cases for that. Either that or blame biology.

Uh-huh.

Reply

I replied with the same rules in mind, so yeah.
You’d think civility is a given but the American comments I get in the junk feed dispute that.
Marriage is a religious institution. There’s no such thing as a secular marriage, it’s the union of two spirits. Atheists don’t have spirits. State endorsement is a layer of protection, it doesn’t make the matter. People can pretend to get married all they like, doesn’t make it any more legitimate in the only law that matters, the enshrined divine law. Whichever religion you pick.
Roe v Wade is easy to overturn, it’s just case law.
It will happen eventually, under a Christian state full of Mexicans or an Islamic one.
The US was never based on religious freedom, it was based on the Rights of Englishmen and America still retains English Common Law, which is founded on the principles of the Church of England.

You should be able to tell from the fact you speak English?

There is religious tolerance, not freedom. It’s a misnomer. We tolerate prayer mats, we don’t tolerate infidel blood sacrifice. Satanists, for example, are still committing animal rights abuses.
Religion isn’t an excuse.

But unlike atheism, at least it has one.

New ones are invented every century. Cough Scientology cough.
You hold liberty and egalitarianism as the state religion. Those are philosophical principles based in the Christian religion. They don’t exist elsewhere.
Keyword there: IF.
It is not, so it is not so.
The burden of proof is on those claiming genetics.
Sexuality is fluid. That fluidity is represented as consensual choice in sexual matters.
It’s a classic mistake to assume scientific reproduction applies to Darwinian sexual selection. Darwin wrote frequently on human intervention making everything worse.
To straw man a hypothetical impossibility based on the premise of evolution is not even wrong. Refutable, though.
“There is also no scientific support that same sex parenting is bad, at least none that has been reported insofar as I know.” You have never tried to look then, there is plenty if you look for it.
“Some talking points regarding same sex parenting is that kids will inevitably become gay.” parents forcing their children to conform to their own lifestyle choices? no, that never, ever, ever, ever happens
“As if that is actually a bad thing.” Did you skip over the part with the drug abuse, self-loathing, HIV rates etc….
“Want to know why there are gay and lesbian people in our world’s population?” child abuse and teratogens, statistically
“Blame the straight parents in some cases for that. Either that or blame biology.” Why not both?

1. Be civil. 2. Be logical or fair. 3. Do not bore me.

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