False reasoning, correct conclusions.
All that shit on hypergamy (science definition, not internet) is missing one thing: modern evidence.
That isn’t what alpha means in evolutionary terms.
Stop trusting everything you read on families and women by middle-aged bachelor men. You didn’t even mention player burnout.
Read from “But this is where the adding up constraint comes in. Like the asymmetry between sperm and eggs, the adding up constraint is not a principle of ethics, but a principle of biology (and, in this case, mathematics).” and it’s pretty much solid.
Prior to that it’s bait.
“In other words, a lot of the thinking about “game” came from men who had an inherently ambivalent attitude towards modern sexual mores. ”
“While bemoaning the decline of modern women into widespread sluttiness, these men were contributing themselves quite considerably to exactly the same phenomenon they complained about.
I don’t mean this as a matter of ethical judgment, that they were ethically equivalent.”
They are literally.
They’re massive hypocrites.
Moral authority = 0.
That’s why even SJWs call them losers, they see that.
What sort of red pill is it when naturalistic fallacy of an extreme, unreal (Calhoun) primitive situation takes over and you can P=NP that slutting is bad, but only for half of society? Like you can only ruin half a society?
No, adults are responsible for antisocial behaviours and promiscuity is topping the list of self-destructive options. Men don’t get a “I made a mistake!” line. Years of something is not a mistake.
Look at this paragraph before where I said to read for a prime example of why not to pollute your brain with it.
“women will tend to have a mixed attitude to a man’s sexual past.”
They don’t know many women, do they?
I know plenty of men who’d dispute that too. Then why are the sluts always getting rejected (by almost all women they “approach”) and “flaked on” (polite ones who thought they’d take a hint).
No, they don’t. They care a whole lot but “men are scared women will laugh at them, women are scared men will kill them”. They won’t tell you unless it’s under lab conditions, with a lie detector. Where are the studies that male promiscuity is sexually selected or socially preferred, respected between other men?
They don’t exist, they’re making it up. Male promiscuity is a woefully under-studied trait. I’d love to see those studies. The loyal reject the disloyal of their own sex in women, this should also hold true for men since humans are a social species and rely on loyalty to survive. Adultery was shameful in both sexes as you breached your vow to the tribe and society. Can you trust someone who’d cheat on a spouse, in business?
False paternity is exceedingly rare and that’s another thing they lie about (and implies low to no sexual selection of manwhores). I’m sure they rank high in the aborted figures, though. Study those too!
Studies tend to survey teenagers, with immature brains. In long term mating (breeding, evolutionary) studies with adults, women prefer conscientious mates (the exact opposite). They reject Dark Triad (the psychopathy and narcissism mostly). Of what data already exists.
We can even see it in the way they move. That’s evolved.
We need more studies on male traits and their attraction or repulsion mechanisms. Oh, but it might hurt someone’s snowflake feelings so don’t hold your breath.
“Sleeping with a lot of women contemporaneously is an abandonment risk, but it is also a sign of higher mate quality,
desperation is not quality, evidence?
and social popularity is not sluttiness, a Sexual Revolution lie
having been pre-selected by lots of other women.
internet made yet another thing up again, citation?
Hence the female romantic ideal is the “reformed bad boy”. Ask them yourself. They’ll tell you.”
No, we don’t? Hollywood isn’t real. It’s a minority of either sex that sleep around at college. That is totally dead wrong. Only a coddled American could think this narrow view of some sections of privileged campuses applies to an entire sex through all cultures and times.
Citation? Not anecdotes you made up. Citations. I keep asking but there are never any good studies on these supposed “well-known facts”. And as we know from criminal studies, there is no such thing as reformation. Does like attract like? Yes. Bad women attract bad men by each’s insecurities but they are not the bulk of the population.
A study would refute this sexual propaganda but good luck getting a study like that published.
Men allowed the Sexual Revolution, take your lumps.
Back to article.
Because the adding up constraint, when reduced to its simplest and crudest form, presents a societal tradeoff that I suspect many in the manosphere would find rather discomforting. Namely:
A society that lets you sleep with lots of women will inevitably be one where the women you are sleeping with have themselves slept with lots of men.
That’s it. There’s no way around it.
Actions have consequences, really?
You make a bed and lie in it, really?
Entitlement is toxic, really?
Indeed, it shares a fair amount of the same wishful thinking of women sleeping around with lots of bad boys in their 20s, and then waiting until their 30s to wonder where all the good men have gone. The manosphere loves to laugh at this female delusion, and they’re right to do so.
When do the men of their age group want to marry them?
Did ya ask them that? No, of course not….
But how many of them apply the same iron logic to the similarly ridiculous situation of a man bedding dozens of women, while also complaining about the difficulty of finding a virgin to marry?
What is it with Americans and age 30 it’s like you’re obsessed.
Why would the good girls choose a burned-out STD-riddled husk of a man? You tell me. Using their peak years and being some loser’s last resort. Why.
I’ve said it for years, no, none of you. You cannot Have it All. It’s a myth to sell you things when you’re desperate. You are either a short term investment and attract other sluts or you’re a long term investment. They are mutually exclusive in trait, you can’t feign a different character. You can’t have your virgin cake and fuck it.
One group will be attracted for the same reason another is repulsed. e.g.
You know, the true sign of a desirable man is one who wants to prevent women from exercising the choice to reject him.
And this woman: “He was upset i wasnt a virgin because he met me at church. I was just like ‘dude, you dont deserve a virgin'”
Fucking LOL. Maybe he had a moodboard.
Double standards kill marriages. Stay in your lane, don’t expect better than your league. The manosphere tells you with a certain number of tricks (for a reasonable fee) you can play in every league. This has never been true in human history, look up assortative mating. They don’t tell you most evolution (the good stuff) and twist what little filters in.
They howl if you tell them things that make them feelbad e.g. women care about looks? Men hit the Wall around the same range as women, on average? Divorced men lose value compared to ones who didn’t fail to keep a marriage? Women don’t really like beards? Fat in a man is worse than a woman, since women need fat for pregnancy?
The manosphere has allowed the embittered divorced guys who stick around to ruin the young ones…. exactly what the SJWs do with women.
In most of those boxes, the couple should get divorced (ideally, never married). Bad people aren’t good enough for marriage and shouldn’t be allowed. They shouldn’t be selected, that’s a good system.
You can’t lecture women from a position of zero moral authority.
We’ll just laugh at you.
“There’s a set of men who don’t sleep around, by choice, and also want like minded partners. [k]
There’s a set of men who do sleep around, and don’t care if their partner does/doesn’t/may actively prefer girls who have. [r]
There’s a set of men who sleep around, but then will reject girls if they’ve behaved in a manner similar to them. [r]
There’s also a set of men who don’t sleep around, but not by choice, and who then shame people who do sleep around (despite the fact that, were they able to, they’d do the same). [r]
The latter two groups falls into the hypocrite category.”
Nailed it. But only the first has moral authority to do any lecturing.
“But it helps to be the Ottoman Sultan.” Yes, let’s model ourselves on men so attractive they had to trap women as slaves and rape them on pain of death.
“But it helps to be Cinderella.” Not the same. Never real, for one. And the K-selection of European royalty is earned, contrary to modern beliefs. [exception Harry]
They all think they’re the exception. Broflakes.
“For society as a whole, it simply cannot add up.” Maths frightens them.
“For traditionalists, the choice is clear. They would prefer both men and women to marry as virgins, and stay faithful to each other.” Pair bonding is real. It’s a feature of an undamaged brain. You prove to me male sluts don’t have equally damaged pair bonding to females ones (the positive claim, burden of proof) and I’ll eat my hat.
“But the world in which each woman sleeps with only one man is also the world in which each man sleeps with only one woman.” Not a bad thing if you love that person, it’s only torture to an r-type.
Okay, fuck goats, like the harem-lovers of the world.
“Out of all the pretty lies to abandon, the most important are the ones you yourself most want to believe are true.”
No remorse, no marriage potential. They’re so easy to spot.
I wonder if you studied the strident members of the Pussy Parade for ED…
I think we could guess the result. Impotence, from psychiatric or physiological causes.
According to researchers, the 23 percent of participants who only had sex with their spouse prior to getting hitched reported higher quality marriages versus those who had other past sexual partners as well.
Fuck around and your marriage, if you even get a spouse, will suck.
Puts all the bitter divorced dudes into perspective, dunnit?
Now study male satisfaction specifically. Until then, you cannot make positive claims about it. Don’t men deserve this information before they make plans on false assumptions?
“I would be very surprised if having multiple sexual partners before marriage, independent of any other factor, has a direct causal influence.” It’s hard to get these real studies published and impossible to find male studies. You cannot comment on something that hasn’t been properly studied.
It wouldn’t be surprising at all, it would be a biological change of some sort.
“McNulty also points out that though the authors are respected researchers, the study was not reported by an academic journal nor was it peer-reviewed.” Good luck getting it published.