The good, the bad and the downright ugly

Update: This woman covered them if you want competence (it sure isn’t here).

How about an astrological experiment? Pick up a drink. 2,700 words.

The combined efforts of three people made this post.
After this, I can’t be asked covering them much anymore. You’ll see why.

There have been paltry media posts on Meghan and Harry’s astrology (the ones I saw lied) so I roped in two extra people to gather the data. One with rather a lot of experience in charts and another as critic and filter.

We’re running three charts, as you can guess.

It will be interesting to see what plays out.

Details are retained so you can check up on us.
By all means, run your own analysis of these charts. Check!
We might’ve got it wrong, once or twice. We don’t really value it. Don’t @ me.
This is a bit of fun, we don’t actually know if this stuff is legit.

We have years to see.

http://forums.lovelightastrology.com/thread/118/prince-harry-meghan-markle

Birth date and times from here.

“Their synastry isn’t that impressive”

True, let’s see. A synastry chart is a comparison of the two people, it is commonly considered a test for soulmates. The dark side of what might seem like a soulmate connection – but isn’t – is called a karmic tie by LA hippies and it’s the relationship Hell Criminal Minds warned you about.

The standard is astro.com and their Extended Chart Selection. Here’s what it looks like.

This is the bog standard, basic chart. It doesn’t tell us much.

Their connections suck.

You can see examples of great synastry charts in other couples. For example, Liz Taylor.

https://darkstarastrology.com/elizabeth-taylor-horoscope/

Even within the family, the synastry of Kate and William is impressive e.g. his Sun is conjunct her MC. The MC is a traditional marriage angle and this would represent how he raised her status in society to a point of prominence and fame.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206205-6.html

Back to Harry/Meghan, henceforth referred to as Haghan.

He is a;

Virgo – demanding and perfectionistic.

Taurus Moon – demands conservatism, a wife as a second, that might cause conflict off the bat. I guess he thinks her feminism will satisfy her politically…

Venus in Libra and she does have a stellium there (grouping of planets), good sign. She is closer to what he’d physically desire than average but the Moon is what we select in a spouse for longevity and she’s weak in Taurus.

Their major angles do NOT align, terrible indicator.

His MC aligns with her 5th house cusp, she is famous for bringing that lascivious LA tinge to his life.

They’re surprisingly short on aspects, I’m looking for things to say.

“I haven’t seen a chart this empty before”. But the birth times must be accurate.

His Jupiter in Capricorn rather reinforces the notion of wanting a stay at home, quiet wife. In Vedic, this planet represents how a man acts as a husband. He wants to settle down and stay out of the press.

His Jupiter squares her Moon, her heart. That’s one of the worst aspects possible.
We’ll be sticking to the main aspects (conjunction, trine, sextile, opposition, square).

Well, see for yourself.

http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Synastry-Aspects/Moon-Square-Jupiter

“Unrealistic expectations” says it all.

The way he thinks she’ll be, isn’t the way she’ll go. False promises.

I put in some basic points on chart selection, to post each would be too confusing. Their bowl shape would look like a mass of red lines, that is odd. Couples are often crosses, tightly conjoined, locked in love and destiny. The three charts will be basic, positive and negative factors. It will not be complete, there are thousands of options.

I’ll list aspects you can check rather than pic after pic after pic without context.

His Vertex (soul angle) in Leo might give rise to the impression she is his soulmate, that’s her Sun sign (expression). However it’s square to her Lilith, eventually there will be a conflict of ego and she will probably leave (that’s the Lilith story, refusal to submit).

It is also square to her Chiron, indicating she will bring him pain.
The Vertex pulls energy in.

Her Chiron is conjunct his Moon, she could literally “break his heart”.
These negative aspects only activate upon marriage, FYI.

Her Part of Fortune (destiny) is conjunct his North Node (future). They were destined to end up together but this is no guarantee the marriage will work out.

Her POF sextiles his Lilith, she seems like a good lover for him, compatible.

Her Chiron is opposite her Uranus (which is also conjunct her Lilith). An erratic sexual temperament, it provokes trouble. It’s impossible to determine if that’s past or future. She’d be fun during the honeymoon period for certain.

The most apparent aspect is how her Mars is smack on top of his DC, she brings him raw desire. This can also stand for anger and a clash of priority. Conjunctions can go either way, it could change.

Sextiles and trines are positive, trines moreso. Trines are natural free flows, only bad if Pluto or Saturn or something dark is involved.
Squares and oppositions are negative, squares moreso. You can’t ignore a square, it will find you and you can’t really overcome it like an opposition.

Her Vertex conjunct his Uranus, an exciting connection that could become chaotic. She might demand destructive changes to his life or vice versa.

Her Neptune conjunct his Mars, she could deceive him or blind him with desire.

His Neptune square her Moon, Jupiter, Saturn. Their ideals do not match in the long run. She might wish to restrict him and turn his dream into a nightmare.

Her Vertex square his POF, her Venus square his Chiron.

Cross purposes, growing apart, he might come to feel smothered by her.
He could easily go from burning love to burning hatred for her.

“I have never seen synastry this terrible.”

We both agreed. Going by the book, they’re doomed already.

His Chiron trine her Libran trio could initially be viewed as a relief, a healing balm… if it weren’t for that Saturn. Glue becomes shackles. Good luck spoils.

We are not going to cover all aspects, it would take days. You can do it.

We haven’t even got past the fundamentals.

His Saturn in her 4th house of home and family. He can see himself settling down with her.

Her Pluto in his 9th. She challenges his beliefs.

His Vertex in her 2nd. She feels like she owns him. Politely, he belongs to her.

Her Vertex in his 11th. He feels like they’re good friends first and can do a lot of good in the world via charities. She reminds him of his mother.

She has nothing in his 12th. He feels she is hiding nothing from him.

Her Sun in his 7th house of marriage. She appears to be wife material.

His Sun in her 3rd, she feels like she can easily talk to him (and wrap him around her finger, she is a Sun conjunct Mercury woman, very calculating).

Her Chiron in his 4th. He feels he must protect her from the world, whether she is vulnerable or not.

His Chiron in her 11th. He opened up about his mother early on. She may have used this information to reinforce the last point.

His Mars in her 5th house, he feels she will be a fun partner, the end game of his playboy days. He wants children with her, many children. She is aligned in this goal strongly (DC connection with her Mars) but perhaps for less pure reasons, as he craves the happy family he didn’t have.

He looks to his brother and feels less of a man without children.

Her Lilith in his 10th house. Her sexuality will define his public image. Could be very, very bad. She could be worse than Fergie. She could be the wanton fashionista of the family, positively. If she dials up the sex appeal.

His Lilith in her 9th house. She approves of and fulfills his fetishes. A high degree of sexual comfort.

His Saturn trine her Mars. This is a good aspect. He is confident he can keep house with her as his second in command and that her wishes will be subsumed by his. Whether this is true is another story.

His Moon opposite her Uranus. She seems exciting at first. This won’t age well. She’s too wild for what he really needs.

Her Sun square his Saturn. I’m having trouble thinking of something worse. This could end up an abuse aspect although it’s impossible to say who starts it. She will pull one way, he will try to pull her back. She will feel restricted but it’s necessary for the union to work in the long term. She could feel like he holds her back (or prisoner!) and his family dims her shine, she’ll miss LA a lot.

A LOT.

He might want to move to the middle of nowhere and avoid the press.

I included some new aspects. To post a bunch of charts would again, be silly.

Her Ixion conjunct his Saturn. She will rebel from his wishes, it’s a matter of time.

He will respond by trying to stamp it out. And he will. For as long as they’re wed.

Her Eris opposite his Venus, she will play with his heartstrings, cause trouble to amuse herself or punish him. Make him dance for her in public, to her tune. A mean aspect.

His Pholus opposite her Juno. An explosive temper when she crosses him as His Wife. He will expect obedience.

Let’s look at her basic positions like I did with him. I won’t pull punches. Combined, it’s a picture.

She is a;

Leo – attention seeking.

conjunct Mercury – conniving

Venus in Virgo – emotionally cold (she can freeze men out if they displease her) bitch (critical) unless bought (Earth signs are materialists). They seem like a match only superficially because at the moment her mind aligns with his.

However what she wants is a bit colder than his fluffy family aspiration (Libra Venus in 8th house of making children).

This union will be a case study in, can you turn a hoe into a housewife?

There is nothing close to her AC or DC, relationship angles, it’s a heartless connection.

Her MC/10th house is empty, so according to this they’ll divorce, as are the 7th and 8th houses. She would almost definitely have trouble conceiving. If she’s been trying to get preggers for years according to gossip sites, that makes sense.

It isn’t a naturally fecund union.

She wants children with him, for maybe deceptive reasons, her Mercury in his 7th. She would probably have them by IVF (Saturn in his 8th house of heirs, maybe if they divorced she’d keep the kids away in America).

This seems to be a karmic tie, payback for his playboy ways. He’s getting played.

I’ve had to interpret houses because there are so few planetary forces.

The Moon in Libra is often indicative of a prostitute (Libra in general, especially Sun too) or at least a woman who can cut off her conscience and feelings from her actions entirely, like a man. Jupiter in Libra can support this, with a woman who makes money from her sex life (casting couch?) conjunct Saturn, sign of bosses.

This is quite official opinion.

http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/moons-will-sell/

“These Moons are notoriously disloyal with Libra being the worst. Libra Moon is called the Courtesan’s Moon: cold and fickle.”

Her Algol conjunct his Ceres. If he expects her to be a kind mother, he is sorely mistaken.
She could be sadistic to his children to hold him to ransom.

http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/asteroid-pick-algol/

Her Sedna trine his Mercury. She could betray him once they are married, great deception is possible. She could totally change personality once she’s got the ring for a while and established, perhaps with a child. Don’t trust the mother in law. There’s meddling and plotting.

There’s free will, of course. This is potential.

Pluto/Venus is hot alas short-lived, about three years, tops.

It’s the only classic aspect between them I can find.

His Nessus conjunct her Sun, insatiable passion at first. Smoldering passion often becomes seething resentment. In the myth, Nessus dies. I hope that’s irrelevant. He brings his own downfall due to his lustful choices.

It’s a typical karmic tie connection. Her Nessus sextile his Sun, square his Pholus.

She would win, if it came down to who could be crueler (stronger Nessus).

Her Eris trine his Nessus. Oh dear, oh dear.

It’s a match made in Hell. [Not that either is a Saint.]

I’m sorry, there’s no nice way to put it. Mind games, emotional abuse, hate sex.

The papers will be busy. I should buy shares in the Daily Mail.

She has her Nessus conjunct her Ascendant in the 1st of ego, this explains why people don’t trust her. It’s an intense aspect. She is the stronger of the two. It can be used constructively but it takes an utterly selfless person to do so. She prides herself on standing up to “bullies” but could be the worst one. By far.

It will be intriguing to see who she labels as a target worth attack.

Arguing with such a woman is inadvisable. The Sun-Mercury seals it.

She’ll pull every trick in the book. Every low down, rotten trick to win an argument (like bringing up his mother’s death). No fighting fair, pure revenge and spite motive if pushed (offended). Eris tests, sows discord, enjoys ruin.

Thank God feminists don’t get easily offended, huh? Eris is social justice.

Her Pholus sextile his Chiron. She’d just erupt, dangerously (to his family), she may threaten to bring down the monarchy. Quite literally.

I wouldn’t push her, Harry. Give her the shiny shit.

She would win and he would never emotionally recover, even if they stayed together publicly.

I almost feel sorry for him. He proposed and had plenty of time to assess her…

His Juno conjunct her Ceres, it could’ve been so beautiful.

Her Dejanira is clear, she is by no means a victim.
His Dejanira is square her Mars. She could wound him. A moody Mars.

Her potential for rage is hidden from him (Mars in her 12th).

Her Bilk conjunct her MC. She will try to take advantage of her husband’s power.

Interestingly, his Bilk is conjunct her DC. He think he’s taking advantage of her!

At first.

Her Venus opposite his Medusa. Her Medusa trine his Vertex, square his Bilk. We’re dry on this one, could mean anything.

She has Lie opposite his Mars, she is a liar. Anything bad happens, she will lie about it.
Right to the papers or Oprah.

He has Lie trine her Venus, he’d cover for her. It’s square her Sun, for the family.

Her Nessus AC opposite his Bilk. Not a happy marriage. His AC square her MC.

She will not provide what he wants from marriage.

Her Medea square his Venus, trine his Moon.
Evil revenge. Medea kills her two children to spite their father.

I hope that one isn’t relevant either.

“What does he see in her?”

“He has Sun in the 8th, sex.”

On a hunch, we checked Nemesis and Karma.

Her Nemesis sextile his Chiron. His Nemesis clear. She could betray him greatly.

Her Nemesis trine his Uranus, he’d be taken totally by surprise. Last to see it.
Her Neptune, planet of deceit, conjunct her Karma.

His Karma conjunct his Venus. Wow.

Her Karma square his Sun. She isn’t fond of his masculinity. She probably doesn’t like white guys, deep down.

Otherwise, his karma is clear…

Once you ignore all the ….rot.

Let’s try to find some nice ones to round it out, shall we?

Since they’re both vain, beauty aspects.

His Lust widely conjunct her Sun. (“Well, that explains a lot.“)

Bacchus conjunct her North Node, he wants to party with her and have wild orgiastic sex. Cheat? He brings her plenty. Money?

His Helena in her 7th house, he’d fight for her. The idea of her.

Her Helena opposite his Neptune, she seems too perfect to be true.

Her Lust trine his Kallisto (dark beauty). He likes her black features, I wouldn’t be surprised by slave roleplay. His Kallisto sextiles hers. She’s into it. Kallisto in her first, she uses her race as a strength.

Her Aphrodite in her fifth, practically insatiable. Conjunct his Uranus, keeps things fresh.

Her Lust ambient conjunction to his Helena. She’s roughly his perfect woman, physically. She knows this. Oh boy, does she know this. He’d ruin his country for her.

Her Eros trine his Mercury. The idea of her turns him on. He’s never been a smart lad.

His Eros conjunct her Neptune, she is versatile to whatever erotic thing he wants her to be.

With the Moon of his conjunct her Chiron, he would’ve felt she could heal him… this is impossible but apparently sexual in attempt.

We tried.

Their Psyche oppose one another. He has Kleopatra conjunct Neptune opposite her Helena. She has Kleopatra somewhat close to the Ascendant but in the 12th. Very power hungry.

I hope William checks his brakes.

His Eros sextile her Pluto. His Psyche trine her Moon. Her Psyche conjunct her Mercury. Quite nice?

An essay is quite enough. Haghan is a dim prospect. Should be fun to watch.

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