18th century American women voting

No, the 20th century didn’t ruin your country.

You were meritocratic.

http://www.rutgerslawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/archive/vol63/Issue3/Lewis.pdf

For a brief period after the American Revolution, some women
were allowed to vote, in one of the thirteen new states. The New
Jersey Constitution of 1776 enfranchised not only men who met the
property requirement but women as well. The specific language:

[A]ll inhabitants of this Colony, of full age, who are worth fifty
pounds proclamation money, clear estate in the same, and have
resided within the county in which they claim a vote for twelve
months immediately preceding the election, shall be entitled to vote
for Representatives in Council and Assembly; and also for all other
public officers, that shall be elected by the people of the county at
large

No taxation without… ah, that’s right!

Representation!

Wait – it gets weirder. Other states.

http://www.apsanet.org/imgtest/freeblacksconstitution.pdf

Before 1820, free black men could vote and white women couldn’t.

So much for your IQ and race realism, huh?

Plenty of states were just male supremacist and misogynist, regardless of qualification.

[Checked: Deadlink from bookmarks, damn. Well, 1820 was the date to look up.]

Now you know why the first feminists were generally “white supremacists*“, because if you let someone you consider subhuman vote before your sister, something isn’t right. Clearly, that person isn’t meritocratic, AKA the American Way. Let the person who can (usually) barely read and write have a say, against the highly educated, who can’t?

Women were preferentially home-schooled with a governess, which we now know is better!
Plus finishing school, which everyone forgets. Bring back those.

They ended black and female voting in New Jersey in 1807 because white MEN were dressing in drag or blackface to cast extra votes.

Sounds fair.

*They wanted to be treated the same as black men so I dunno how that logic works.

It’s funny when I must correct Americans on their own sodding history.

If it weren’t so sad.

And where’s the female incentive to contribute to a society that provides no incentive?

This isn’t Communism, everyone needs incentives. Women aren’t respected by men generally as feminine or wives any more…so fewer are feminine or wives. People can (and do) suppress their natural instincts if society actively punishes them for it (say, you lose the Vote when you marry), a dysgenic outcome. And men are suppressing their paternal instinct because losers on the internet disrespect fatherhood as stupid (but Homer Simpson is insulting!).

Nobody can honestly answer that question. Incentives must come to the individual, so the reward can’t be another person e.g. men, children. And men had the “reward” of a family too, plus the Vote (when property ownership was dropped). Ancient tribes survived because they were meritocratic. You contribute, you have a say. This includes the choice to elect representatives, those representatives don’t get to turn around and limit the Producers in the society that supports their existence. And who produces more vitally than women?

Homogeneity is based on shared values and fair incentives. So for example, everyone values Christian charity and all members could have a seat at the table for free food if they fell on hard times.

It’s like how lower class men have been too stupid to realize they celebrated their own replacement for the profiteering of the rich men. Robots work in factories instead of you. Drones are soldiers instead of you. Immigrants in lower-middle job roles like taxi driver and cook, instead of you. And you welcome sexbots? Seriously?

Men celebrate their replacement for laziness and cowardice and wonder why they’re in a weaker bargaining position.

Less contribution (more restriction), less incentive rewarded.

You cut off your own opportunity, welcome to the inevitable outcome.

2 responses to “18th century American women voting

  1. I honestly do not know of any Suffragettes who were racists and I studied history. Most were anti-slavery (all races were subject to slavery, not just blacks!), and most Native Americans in the former colonies held the vote. It was only those states where mostly Native Americans went to, Texas and Wyoming, where all women had the vote as permanent right. Texas had black senators, mayors, judges of both sexes till after the Civil War (note black voters in TX voted to succeed from the Union, and not a few owned one of more slaves).

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