Stop the fake debates please

I can already feel the heat of hate I’m going to get for this.

There’s a broken record.

You’re being played.

What strawman?

Not all (crime) are (demographic) is an excuse to dismiss data.
Probability data. It happens to the HBD crowd all the time.
A derailing tactic intended to keep you ignorant and fixated on casting aspersions (ad hom). Bullshit rhetoric. There’s no debate. It’s the statistical equivalent of anecdote and rejects the heinousness of the crime in question. In a civilized, First World society, the acceptable number is zero.

They want you to forget this.

(I also think that traumatizing a person with crime should be an aggravating offence, we already implicitly have this but it’s been forgotten in sentencing for political expedience e.g. aggravating factor for taking a child’s innocence away or raping a celibate/faithful Christian or a virgin, same principle. It could even apply to male rape of a straight man, since there is another layer to the trauma based on the individual’s beliefs and identity. “Hate” crime should be put toward those ends if anything, protecting the in-group against the out-group of the really spiteful (anti-Western) predatory targeting and life ruining. The system we have is broken because it defends the out-group like infantile damsels when they are literally criminals explicitly targeting the in-group of the society they chose to live in. That is “sexual terrorism”.)

I’ll take the one with more data as example.

Muh “not all men are rapists”

– but most rapists are male, it’s just un-PC to collect demographic data (including race) and publish it.

Seriously, try to find rape data by sex and/or sexuality, I did. Couldn’t find anything reliable. Isn’t this suspicious?

We need a data collection charter where such information in the public interest must be collected and published freely, with no distortions. Including the rate of demonstrably false accusations. It viscerally sickens me that a raped man by another man must expressly state he isn’t homosexual to be taken more seriously. Where are the libertarians on that privacy? Consent is never an assumption, property rights begin with the body.

You’re being hoodwinked. So I looked up American data since a lot of you are filthy Americans.

You won’t pay attention unless I’m talking about you.

Best I could find in a moderately long search attempt.

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=317

OT but “Attempted rape includes verbal threats of rape.”
How many men plead ignorance on that one?

All this insufficient data (even at collection stage) is intended to keep men and women at one another’s throats. To lower the fertility rate. It is dyscivic.

Sex-based triangulation. You cannot fight the system that oppresses you if you’re busy engaging in an impossible game of one-upmanship.

They also want to deny unPC but true stereotypes by hoping you won’t ask for full datasets.

Your taxes are paying for them already, you should get all the information.

They also are intellectually dishonest to report victim but not criminal.
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6427
Revised Oct 2018 data from 2016 (latest).
e.g.
“The rate of violent victimization against males increased from 2015 to 2016, rising from 15.9 to 19.6 per 1,000 males age 12 or older.
From 2015 to 2016, the rate of aggravated assault against males age 12 or older rose from 2.7 to 4.2 per 1,000.
The rate of violent victimization against persons ages 25 to 34 rose from 21.8 per 1,000 persons to 28.4 per 1,000 from 2015 to 2016, and the rate for females in this age group rose from 24.6 to 33.4 per 1,000.”

>implies women are not persons but O.K.

Who attacked them? A ghost? It is a common incomplete sentence and poor grammar. It’s also scientism.

You need a Punnett square and I see none.

Male, female and male, female. Basic stats again? Otherwise an individual reading cannot know their risk.

“Not all men” really is the fake right equivalent of the fake left’s “not all immigrants”.

-but most terrorists are foreign, culturally and racially, it’s just un-PC to collect demographic data….. again.

See the pattern?

You’re chasing your tails.

Red-pill statistics can make men look really, really bad. Men have a right to know the likes of rape data, in particular, because they need to know they’re at great risk from other men as well.

Naturally it doesn’t list the latter but they take one step forward in two steps back by collecting male victim data…. only to neglect entirely listing the female. Mathematics in need of context. Society is not just one group, you collect all the data or it’s close to useless. They know this, it’s deliberate. This is intended to bait silly MRAs who won’t even notice it doesn’t mention perp details.

They do make another error in saying Male for Male Victim rape and subsuming the female in an age range.
Piss-poor data entry. I notice everything.

Collect ALL the data or no, we cannot debate it. 

It would entirely become a futile argument of ignorance. 

They know this. Mathematically, you have no data.

Conveniently, they don’t have to change and lower the crime rate (toward zero) if you don’t know how badly they’re doing their job.


5% of the latest reported US crime was rape.
That’s absurdly high for such a specific and brutal crime.
(This is what happens when you don’t keep serial offenders off the streets).
1 in 20 criminal acts was rape. You need all the data, America.

If I hadn’t screencapped this, you probably wouldn’t have believed me.

Irony! The dramatic irony!

Statistically you’re more likely to suffer domestic violence than stranger violence. That is horrifying. You were over twice as likely to get raped as burgled (1.99% in 2016). Do the libertarians care about bodily rights? Statistically they should care twice as much as about burglaries. The average citizen is twice as likely to be raped as generally assaulted, do you consider non-sexual assault a real problem?

You call yourself the First World? Greatest nation on Earth? Please, lead by example.

We’re right there with you. Bring back the standards of civil behavior, the etiquette. Update it, sure, but you do need it back again, what little data you have is starkly apparent in this. Perhaps enshrined in law, to make sure everyone is clear.

Not all- is NOT how statistics work.
Using big words doesn’t make it a debate.
You are not sounding intelligent to anyone who uses their brain.

Demand more data and think for yourselves.

Fellow Westerners are not the enemy. It is those who keep you shrouded in ignorance and wasting your time attending a digital circus of vicious fallacies. Oh but the delivery of their lies is so sweet, right?

Not all (blank) – they cant.

They don’t have to be.

It’s a false equivalence.

Rape doesn’t belong in the First World and neither do hostile foreigners.

Hopefully you can see why they won’t let me near a television camera.

You’re only watching the puppets who never raise real points. You can’t settle real issues in a soundbite or cheeky Youtube clip.

“Boys will be boys” is pathological altruism enabling the psychopathic of the male population against everyone else and sexist infantilisation.

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