The logic seems to be: Women can’t oppress me, if I oppress them first. How is that going away? The lampreys on MGTOW have utterly ruined it. Who actually supports rapists and murderers without mental issues themselves?
The characteristic of revenge fantasies is that they never actually work.
Logically, if they did keep all 100% of women under male control, all women would be able to renounce all forms of legal responsibility to the man in charge of them. It used to be that way in some places that if women ran up massive credit debt, her husband would be automatically expected to pay. If a woman broke the law, her husband would be expected to provide her alibi or, sometimes, be blamed for forcing her to do it – and be punished in her place. You really want total responsibilities over all those idiotic messes? REALLY. Even SJWs don’t want to be held accountable for what men do. They also want women controlled for life but believe women have expiry dates… need I mention how impractical that is? You can’t drop a responsibility. This is like the people who take a commitment (e.g. marriage) then complain it’s limiting…. The men against marriage would be forcing themselves into a de facto marriage of statistically older (longer lifespan) women. They also wouldn’t be getting sex either, consent still exists. Plus they’d have a recession economy, since half the workforce is gone and never has to work again (sounds nice).
Many of their economic woes are caused by globalization.
They blame the West instead of the East. That is irrational. The propaganda is about the West because it isn’t the West, we were doing well until the rise of Asia stealing our production and student places (most women in top Western universities are Asian, in on forged transcripts, they never mention this).
Mostly, it’s immigration.
If you showed the happy 50s husband the MGTOW posts online they’d probably tell you it was a mental problem. It does share similarities with borderline personality (assuming all people hate you, insecurity, flashy purchases, assuming all people will take things from you and abandon you eventually, feeling out of place).
Hating women (okay, distrusting is visible) so much they deny their own gender role (and thus, power).
from their own files
Do they cut off their nose to spite their face, or their dick to spite SJWs?
You don’t want to pay income tax but want women to pay it?
You don’t want to pay child support but expect mothers to live off air?
You don’t want to fund schools if you don’t have children (that one is fair).
You don’t want men to protect women but refuse the death penalty for the worst criminals? How else do we get rid of them?
You want socialism (the Pill, abortions, STD shots) without the pricetag, seriously? Why not crawl back into your mother’s womb at this point? You don’t want to be an adult. If disabled people can be responsible and productive, what’s your excuse?
Apparently being our gender role oppressed them first. Somehow. Women oppressed them by needing to be provided for, due to the choice to be the baby-carrying and physically weaker sex. Because we choose those, we choose our sex apparently and fuck Darwin, “man up” is apparently hate speech.
Asking an adult male to act like a responsible man is now “sexism”, according to these guys.
(Why do you think a man cannot be a responsible adult without being married ? HMMM?)
Are your parents pushing you to get married? Diddums, you think that doesn’t happen to women?
Are your parents pushing you to have kids? That one REALLY happens more to women. By an order of magnitude.
Is nobody allowed to criticize baby, for fearing he feel SHAME?
Why can’t we shame men who deserve it? They shame women all the time. Shame is good. It makes people question immorality.
If you’re so immoral that shame works, that’s called a conscience and you should listen to it.
Because funding the mother of your children is evil but foisting them on an expensive nanny is good parenting. Studies be damned.
Can I point out the obvious?
If men don’t want to be men – that might explain why women don’t want them.
If we wanted girly men, we’d be lesbians?
A man is not his car or cologne, that would be sexist and dehumanizing. Replacing dignity and masculinity with material possessions and arrogant bragging just puts women off. The good women. Brands are telling you you need to buy stuff to impress women. Is money all they have to offer as a person? How did that work before credit cards?
Oh yeah, men gave the one thing women couldn’t provide for themselves. Men were manly.
If you want to be a metrosexual man, fine. You can’t change biology to make women get the hots for it. This is like fat acceptance but for pajama boys.
“Why can’t the woman pay me paternity leave?”
Because you didn’t give birth. If you gave birth, one day, we’d support you 100%. However, in reality, men cannot give birth, whatever the BBC says. Maternity leave happens after the birth to medically recover from the worst of it (really it takes about a year biologically).
“Why are women congratulated for conceiving?”
Because it’s a medical phenomena that happens inside their body.
Are they really this dumb? [yes]
They continue to grow and support life itself, that’s impressive. They’ll also have to give birth, which you won’t.
Most of their complaints can be answered with: well, you don’t have to.
Women who choose not to have children still see pregnancy test adverts. They aren’t bitching about it.
Spinsters see marriage programmes on TV. Where is their forum bitching?
Society doesn’t stop because of Princess.
They sound transgender, with all this talk about the ‘evils’ of gender roles and being fluid in their societal duties.
You’re either a man or you’re not. This isn’t hard.
Don’t they get this? I think many of them just have such a low IQ they think the basics of adult living are a huge accomplishment. Women should scatter rose petals at their feet for… not having a criminal record and other things that are… normal.
They want to be spoiled but they aren’t even gay.
Men do the spoiling. Get a boyfriend, let him spoil you. Why do you think men get a sex change? They want a sugar daddy, they need to look female.
Women do provide for men but not the maternal succour they try to demand. Women are maternal to children, not adults and especially not sexual partners. It’s creepy. To be that needy as an adult, just go get it from your actual mother. You will never find a sexy mother replacement. It’s irreconcilable. Women respect (and are attracted to) adults.
(They also won’t find a new one every decade as they age. They think they don’t age.)
Yeah, demanding things from women they cannot biologically (are not evolved to) provide is a recipe for failure.
You can’t blame that on women, broflake.
“I deserve this and this and this…” is bullshit in entitled women and men!
You deserve nothing and respect has to be earned. They don’t even respect themselves.
If I hated American men and wanted their legacy to die out, I’d convince them women are like the Jewish Lilith and never to marry or have kids (both of which extend male lifespan and joy).
Males commit more suicide because most of those suicides are bachelors.
Being single (bachelor) is the biggest suicide risk factor for men.
Almost like they evolved to have a spouse?
ding ding we have a winning study, they’ll never look into it
admitting their lifestyle is medically bad for them would require self-critique
(single women by contrast live longer, especially nuns or the celibate women)
asking happily married men how they did it would require change
Men are also at risk once they are hit by the reality of aging in the 50s. Men young enough to be their children outcompete them.
I’m sure that’s a coincidence. It can’t be regret, right players? There’s no such thing as player burnout, is there?
Men can have children any time they like, sperm doesn’t accumulate mutations year on year, does it? [does]
Don’t get me started on the narcissists who feel entitled to sex with women ….without the women part. Well, if you encounter any human socially, you’re bound to expect problems from that. The original MGTOW was quite brilliant in forsaking women and even dating them altogether. Fucking women causes 99% of women “problems”, you signed up for it. Nobody feels sorry for somebody that stupid.