Marriage isn’t a Christian duty

Tradlarpers lie about the Bible.

As in, blatant lying.

https://www.christianity.com/bible/commentary.php?com=mhc&b=46&c=7

Specifically (and atheists shouldn’t marry, that’s repeated* throughout the Bible) on Marriage:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+7&version=NIV
I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. ”
“8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.”
“17 Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 18 Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. 20 Each person should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.”
“But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.”
“38 So then, he who marries the virgin does right, but he who does not marry her does better.

I don’t criticize MGTOW for being unmarried…. as long as they’re moral.

I do criticize larpers who insist everyone must marry (like vain them) as if that were 1. possible or 2. desirable.

They think they have a right to “give away” these people’s bodies!

*There’s an interesting point in a commentary, since it’s against marrying diversity:

“The Greek word for “unequally yoked together” is not found elsewhere, and was probably coined by St. Paul to give expression to his thoughts. Its meaning is, however, determined by the use of the cognate noun in Leviticus 19:19 (“Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind“).”

However, a man can only love as a husband sacrificially

https://www.compellingtruth.org/when-marry.html

Your mother no longer comes first, nor your friends.

https://www.compellingtruth.org/grounds-for-divorce.html

Divorce is acceptable for abuse, adultery, abandonment of either party.

The poorer, innocent party should receive alimony for supporting the richer’s efforts to earn it.

Re-marriages of the sinning party are not Biblical.

“An affair does not make you a better spouse”

There are people who would actually question that logic.

Like a marriage is anything else but a ceremonial monogamy.

And hypothetically, if it were true, the same would apply to women. So cucks have logic, at least, one-sided cheats don’t.

They admit loyalty is valuable when they want to take it from the other party without giving it.

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2017/07/17/signs-of-an-emotionally-immature-adult/

Update: I knew I’d read about this in Western canon.

https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/mary-pity-women/

You call yourself a man,
For all you used to swear,
An’ leave me, as you can,
My certain shame to bear?
I ‘ear! You do not care —
You done the worst you know.
I ‘ate you, grinnin’ there. . . .
Ah, Gawd, I love you so!

Nice while it lasted, an’ now it is over —
Tear out your ‘eart an’ good-bye to your lover!
What’s the use o’ grievin’, when the mother that bore you
(Mary, pity women!) knew it all before you?

It aren’t no false alarm,
The finish to your fun;
You — you ‘ave brung the ‘arm,
An’ I’m the ruined one;”

Victorian deadbeats.

Kipling nailed the sniveling cowardly type of man perfectly.

Alienation of affections

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/28/jilted-husband-awarded-8-8m-after-suing-wifes-lover.html

I wrote a post ages back on the old laws that protected marriage.

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/which-laws-kept-marriages-intact/
“Protection from adultery is the crucial means of safeguarding marriage for future generations.”

Protection from cheats is one.

Marriage is a contract. Yes, you should be held to your oath of monogamy.

Holding the seducer responsible doesn’t divide the house.

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/std-free-blood-tests-before-marriage-kept-it-good/

Also counts under criminal conversation. “Open marriage” cucking is effectively already illegal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_conversation

Way more expensive than a hooker.

When is altruism pathological?

When r is low or r=0, you’re actively harming your genetic kin due to competition.

The resources are no longer in equilibrium between groups, one has the resources of the other.

This is why families encourage loyalty and the state competes with doting teachers.

Every war is actually about competing genetics, even in chimps.

This is about genophilia.

Strangers have high genetic distance, highest for race.

Shallow men, shallow women

“Part of being a man, is having a woman. A Woman, if you can’t do that, you are failing at manhood.”

100% true.

The opposite sex isn’t the enemy, you need them.

Those groups are narcissistic overall, too selfish to be in a relationship with anyone!
They hate people who are happy because it reminds them how miserable they are, that’s why they misuse cuck. A cuck is a man who married a tart and tries to pass her off as better. A cuck can also be a woman whose husband has been the town bike and keeps cheating on her.

Nobody cares if you actually want to be alone. It isn’t a great loss to the world.
It’s okay.
But it’s like the woman who ignores you, you don’t notice and then she comes up to you and tells you she’s ignoring you.
…Good?

Bitchy female tactics don’t work on females.
I don’t want to screw the Mean Girl.

The men who blame women, well, if it’s natural, it’s always been true. In which case, you just hate women. If it’s their choice, why do you want them? Why do you choose to reward them with attention?
Men complaining about women doing the same things they do, is like old people complaining the young men aren’t respectful. It’s always happened. Every time thought this. It’s in various ancient texts.
This time period isn’t that special and neither is any individual. Sitting around passively is ying, it’s what women do. An effete man is like a little boy. They might want to help you but it won’t be an even power dynamic, it won’t be respect, it won’t be attraction. It’s cleaning up your mess. If your life is a mess, clean it up. At least try? Even your own mother wouldn’t be expected to run around after you as a grown man.
The worst MGTOW just want a Mommy figure they can screw… Freudian issues attract nobody normal.
Sometimes they over-estimate their attractiveness (refuse to date their level) – that isn’t Incel. That’s a choice.
Improve yourself and stop obsessing over porn, it isn’t real.

I saw one guy moan about how a girlfriend cheated on him. I pointed out no, she didn’t. He didn’t want her, he hadn’t married her, she owed him nothing. The offer of monogamy and exclusivity and loyalty comes from the man first. He rejected her first. He…didn’t take it so well. He didn’t have a rebuttal but he insisted I was mean to look at it so coldly. …If I walked into a shop and said Where’s my order? and I didn’t place an order, I’d look like a prize fool.

Cheating is a legal term. What did she cheat on, exactly? Empty words? Not even a verbal proposal.
These guys act like a girl committed adultery (Biblical sin)… you weren’t married? WTF?


And if there was fornication, you can’t slap her with the Bible, without hitting yourself too.

Your degeneracy has no right to be respected. You knew it was going nowhere.
Do you really owe a repeat one-night-stand an explanation?

“I’m happy!” the bitter middle-aged men posting on youtube comment sections tell us.
Then why are you here, telling us?
It’s like vegans who make their diet their life.
Not doing something is the focus of a loser.
What is likelier is “I can’t attract what I want but rather than accept my level, I’m going to ragequit dating”.
SJWs do that too, the drama would be perfect narc supply for both of you.
Don’t marry the sluts, m/f, how can that possibly end well?

They have player burnout, that’s the term they use. They’re used-up husks of their former self, they wouldn’t want themselves (sexes reversed) years before. Sexual satisfaction for men suffers with every woman they bed, they make themselves inferior husband material. There’s so much to compare with that by the time they burn out of the pussy parade (it isn’t a choice, it’s aging), they expect some obedient sex slave of a wife to rub their feet.

Their ancestors would spit on them, it’s so denigrating to expect that servile attitude to a spouse, one of the most beautiful connections in life.

They were a sucker. They bought the societal lie they needed to run up debt on clubbing and sex was the ultimate human experience. You’re a casualty of the Sexual Revolution, boys. Grow up and admit it? It’s love, without love, mankind has nothing worth living for and you couldn’t convince a child otherwise.

But…. they’re ignoring us, and we should care.

You attract what you are. If you always attract flies, you’re probably full of shit.

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I DONT NEED A WOMAN, IM A STRONG INDEPENDANT MALE!

Yes.

as an ex-church ex-pentecostal MGTOW who has heard all the chuch BS hearing you quote the bible just makes me mentally switch you off

I wonder why that angry one’s single.

Low IQ men are easy to spot.

Wait, there’s more!

He goes on

The psychopaths in the pentecostal churches just want to force men to do the right thing and marry the stupid nasty devious fem in the pews. I decided I was not going to do that when I was fifteen.

lol

Yes, decisions made age fifteen are famed for their deep wisdom.

How can a woman be both stupid and devious?

If the thug so-called pastors want to talk to me they risk being reported to the police for stalking and harassment. I would love to put some of them behind bars. And your assumptions about what women all the MGTOW want is ignortant, retarded, complacent, and counter-productive.

Pass this little baby a dummy.

You clicked on it, bitch. It’s like a vegan on a BBQ video. What is your life?

Another!

I’m 30…oil field worker …near six figure salary…I’m mgtow all the way and loving every minute of it. Go ahead and man Shame me..it’s music to my ears

I wonder if he wants attention….

We don’t care how much money you have if you’re too stupid to realize life is a marathon and not a sprint.

How old is the oldest MGTOW? Because

I’d have questions.

I would post a tiny picture of a noose hanging from the end of the red line but it would be tacky and I assume you know the statistics on bachelor suicide. When they bitch about male suicide, they never bring up marital status.

Married men are happier, live longer and don’t kill themselves.

Yes, women are poison.

Remember his point about taking responsibility as the #1 masculine drive?

MGTOW is not the flip side of feminism, that would be the Incels. MGTOW are men who recognize the dangers and injustices men face in in our gynocentric/feminist society, and act accordingly to protect themselves. I would argue that most MGTOW would love to have long term relationships and a family, and are more than capable of achieving those things, but the risk is simply too great these days. Don’t blame men for going MGTOW, blame the system for forcing them into this position.

Low IQ, what ya gonna do?

“Social Justice is not the flipside of MGTOW, Social Justice are the women who recognize the dangers and injustices women face in our patriarchal society and act accordingly, to protect themselves. I would argue that most of us would love to have long term cohabitation in sin and deliberately become a single (unmarried) parent and are more than capable of that achievement but the risk of abuse is simply too great these days. Don’t blame women, blame the courts for not believing female victims.”

I mean.

Let’s be logical for five minutes, it might hurt.

You want more women to have children, yes?
You want more mothers. But you don’t want wives.
What makes a single mother single, is that the father didn’t marry her.
He won’t propose. By supporting this, you’re supporting the deliberate creation of more single mothers. For which, the taxpayer is responsible.

We won’t cuck for your sperm farm, hunty.

Another!

MGTOW saves lives.

Did not… do…. the research.

He goes on

” It’s not about realizing how modern laws and media and society brainwash women to be crazy and drunk with power.”

He would deny being a misogynist. Women can’t be sane but he doesn’t hate us.

Watch the r-type try to force you to qualify to him like any kind of moral authority.

If you show me

We can show you a noose?
Statistically, you’ll need it for when you either top yourself or start kidnapping schoolgirls.

a virtuous woman

says the degenerate

who actually

passive-aggressive creep

will be loyal and honest and love me, personally, I

psycho

would gladly have some kind of marriage vows, absent of state authority ruining the whole thing.

What’s wrong with protecting women from abusive husbands?

Or men from wives?

It’s called a commitment, not a half-arsed certificate.

It isn’t like buying a dairy cow.

They’re treating women like an arcade toy. “If you find me this thing, give me this object”. It seems to be autists angry that women don’t want to put up with their mental condition and don’t have to. There are pages going into this abuse from Aspergers husbands, they’re like sociopaths.

And if you are picking on incels, that’s just punching down.

Guys who laugh at rape all over the place and fantasize about young girls?

Yes, we’re bullying them, guys.

Note the gaslighting. Great catch.

I understand the way you see it

accurately?

See, he’s a man so they can’t insult his intelligence or appearance.

~entitled shrieking from the MGTOW~

Congratulations, the SJWs win for every man that no longer wants a family because he’s scared of women. Fewer husbands, wives and kids, they win.

They want the Gender War, don’t give them it.

and grew up with better moral standards, but today it is very easy to be incel. Just be a nerd that is shy.

People who want to be manwhores but can’t… merit anything but contempt?

Another!

I got married young.Age 20. Wife ran off with a doctor soon after. Didnt see it coming.There were no warning signs.They like that money and material things.

Married too young. Moron.
Marry 24+, divorce rate drops for both.
Ah, but they want barely legal flesh, don’t they?

Another! It’s like spot the vegan!

MGTOW don’t diss other guys for dating,

have you read this comment section?

so why do people have to bad mouth us?

They’re actually worse than the SJWs.

The SJWs know they’re ill and take meds. These guys try to convince the whole world it’s crazy and they’re (tic) fine.

It’s a personal choice based on one’s own unique experience.

Using the same lines over and over?

And what experience? You believed a lonely sad blogger’s tale of woe and decided to ruin your life based on works of fiction (or adventures in Asian race-mixing, when they turn out to have been faking the obedient routine and we’re shocked, I say, shocked!).

Most of us just want to be left alone and have no drama. We don’t go around crapping on non MGTOWs.

They don’t even see how stupid they look

Another!

Shaming language against men. Sad. I hoped for better.

What’s your excuse? Are you on your period too?

Men can never be wrong. Shame should be illegal. It’s okay to cry as Barney said because words hurt.

I love those comments in particular (they copy and paste) because they are shaming themselves?

Nobody is allowed to disapprove.

TRANSLATION: F-U-MOM! IT’S YOUR FAULT DAD ABANDONED ME!

Another,

looking for the wrong kind of women eh?

easy, yes

well the right kind are like 1% of girls aka the equivalent of a unicorn

He knows unicorns don’t exist, right?

Good, don’t look for us, never look for us, you aren’t the 1% of men. It is pointless.
This is never, ever brought up. Hundreds of times I read that because the low IQ aren’t original, not once. What is the male unicorn worthy of such a woman?

Another

You don’t get it. Do some more research on it.

Blogs don’t count.

And the “research” I’ve seen on their sites is wrong, twisted or made up.
Literally, they say something very opinionated with no study. Because the studies say the opposite.

He goes on

I don’t agree with all of MGTOW ideologies

uhuh

but they have alot of strong arguments to their physiology. I don’t expect anyone from another generation to understand. You haven’t dated in 33yrs. Time has changed. MGTOW voice is getting louder each yr

tfw to intelligent

A man claiming to be elderly also joins in, but to sound like a 23yo as if his wife were in that age group.

What?

I’m 70,

I don’t believe you.

and I agree with what your saying… separated at 47, divorced 2 years later,

Loser.

3rd wave feminists are a cancer on marriage, and after 17 years looking, in coffee shops, church, office, and dating sites, I’ve given up and gone MGTOW…

You aren’t good enough, the one woman was a fluke.

Did you…. try self-improving? Lowering your standards? …Like the pastor said?

Who wants a 47yo divorced guy? And now he’s 70 and more sour? Sign me up.

It’s like corked wine if we’re keeping that metaphor, the toxic one that’ll make you sick.

I don’t hate women, but I can’t say that good women are laying around like Rubies on the ground, waiting to be picked up…

I wanna leave you and all I did was read this comment.

I picture these guys in the old folks home, still determined they didn’t waste their one (atheists) life being bitter ragequitters. It’ll never stop being funny.

This one doesn’t understand words

So true, it is easy for a man that has been married for over 30 years to make assumptions, heck, even 10 years for that matter. These guys should try to remember the old adage “do not judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes”.

Being bitter and alone isn’t an experience.

Oh, shit.

Most MGTOWS do not hate women. It is a natural response to the Jezebel spirit that most women are possessed by today and the State’s desire to make slaves of men through the divorce/family courts. Until the states get it through their heads that what they are doing to men is a crime

Upholding the law. STFU.

I’m embarrassed for you.

At least the SJWs rally together and go on marches, not one from men!
So most men agree with the system!

there are going to be a lot of crazy women running around and less children.

Fathered by people like you, excellent. That is eugenic.

It is necessary. This country USA has sinned against God and especially men and the day of reckoning has come. We’ll see how powerful our country remains when men decide to no longer participate and be made slaves.

America has never been a powerful country, you can’t even invent your own language.

You’re still a slave to Uncle Sam with your taxes.

Destroying your nation because you can’t get a woman is total, ultimate omega move.

If I had not gotten married I would have had a lot less heartache and been much happier I know

bitch’s intuition?

and more money in my pockets

I don’t think he knows what a marital union is or the male gender role.
The male gender role is to provide, if you won’t you aren’t a man and shouldn’t have taken on the duties.

Your bad decisions had bad consequences. Were you threatened with death to marry? no

instead of lawyers and Jezebel stealing from me. I was married 16 years and tried to do it all the Christian way.

Nothing about this guy is Christian, he sounds consumed with greed, envy, wrath and pride.
The Jezebel spirit isn’t exclusive to women…. demons prefer men?

Stay single men in this backwards generation.

I regret that post. It was clearly a joke because more sexual predators and psychopaths are men and some borderlines are men too but… obviously they missed it.

You’re an atheist cultural death cult, you don’t really believe in this stuff.

A guy with a Muslim sounding name complains

Having a woman these days is like letting a robber into the bank vault or an abusive priest near some children.

Totally balanced healthy adult.

One voice of sanity

Why do people feel they need to fit into a label and words for group to be in?

Because they’re little kids and need a clique.

Peter Pan and the Lost Boys.

A guy with a pathetic name says

You have an incredible disconnect with reality.

Projection, I love it.

Another!

Its 2018 and they’re still using the “man up” argument to deflect your attention from observable reality.

i T’ S    t H E    c U R R e n t     Y e a R

Be a man. Grow up.
Get married. Breed.
Not the same thing. Low IQ QED.

You know who love Pajama Boys and hate the term “man up”?

Male feminists. Go join your people.

They tell happy men their wife is a whore and manage not to be shot between the eyes.
They should be grateful.

Again

What’s this? More shaming language against MGTOW and now trying to equate them with incels? Nice try. Go ahead, shame away. I just don’t care.

See? Copy/Paste.

Again

Responsibility without authority is slavery. You are telling men to become slaves.

No, it’s called being a grown up and paying your dues?

Prissy little nancies.

“Why do I have to move out if I can’t get a mansion!”

Join a Marxist group.

Another

Several times in my life I have had a woman I trusted burn everything to the ground and leave me with nothing because I wasn’t perfect.

Yeah, that was why.

Can’t be that you’re a whiny little kid in a man’s body?

But thanks to women having the vote, they have social policies to support them, they don’t need the men

Vox Day is married, he’s trolling you on The Vote.

If women lost the vote you’d have to go down the mines. National debt won’t pay itself. Men would be on the hook for 100% of everything. And you think that’s better for you? Do you know what percentages are?

Again

“Be a man!” That’s a lot of shaming language.

Tone police. Are you gonna tell him off for swearing too, matron?

Shame is an emotion you feel and should feel.

it’s called a C O N S C I E N C E

If someone said “Be a woman”, I’d be confused because I already am?

It’s cute they think they never have to stop acting like a modern spoiled teenage boy.

I don’t have a problem with woman, I have a problem with the government, and their willingness to help woman destroy men.

Most politicians are male.

I don’t want to live at the mercy of a woman’s whim’s.

Did you select a woman and propose to her?

You can say all you want about “good woman”, all it takes is one bad day and you’re future is out the door.

Yes, that’s how it works.

Because this is the best Joker comic

They’re actually just trying to be a jerk …to another man, the way they would a woman. That is unhinged. They can’t argue, that’s a serious personal flaw.

If I replaced women with men, they’d call it sexist. They’re just like the SJWs.

Nobody gives you rights, they’re NATURAL RIGHTS.

Universal suffrage was a correction of outdated pre-industrial law based on taxation. Read a real book.

To shut women (and poor men) up about various war protests over a century using their tax money, they got the Vote, whether they preferred the untaxed cash or not. Then WW1 and 2 happened.

The bad career choice one is funny. Whatever you do, they hate you. Now they’re turning onto other men, good men, better men, men of achievement and happiness. For trying to help them.

Nearly done

You state MGTOW is not good for men. True. What’s far worse is being used and abused by women and the legal system

If the only abuse you suffer in marriage is legal and in divorce, you are lucky.
“Divorce is ha-ard!” they whine.
Divorce isn’t meant to be nice. Ending No-fault divorce would cause more cases to go against men because many are filed for cheating. Fine, I’d be happy to finish no fault – because someone is always at fault.. but it gives men an unearned boost. They are so short-sighted, it’s almost sweet.

This last one confuses criminals for normal men

There’s a lot of truth in a lot of these comments. I divorced in ’05 after 7 years of marriage. But what really showed me was 2008-2009. There was about 10 highly successful men I knew at the time that lost their businesses. All ended up in divorce. All these men lost everything. They lost their families, kids, homes, etc because the women couldn’t take losing their financial security. “For richer or poorer” only applies to men it seems.

Provider not thief.

You don’t just lose businesses like the TV remote. You gamble. You lie. You steal and cheat.
Anyone would leave knowing he’s probably now in massive debt and will harm the children (school fees?) by staying yoked. Men have one job – finances. Be good with the family finances. You want your gender role, you can keep your gender role.

You cannot complain about your gender role.

For richer, for poorer doesn’t cover – lying and deceiving and going into debt on your joint credit (hers too!) so he could make a quick buck and lie to her about how he got it. That has a name and it’s called fraud. Those women were betrayed. Imagine if she had a secret shopping addiction and while thinking before he had $2 million, and planning his life around that, he was actually $780,000 in debt. That is disgraceful. Divorces used to occur all the time because the husband was lazy, a drunk, abusive, cheating and humiliating her or a criminal. Read up. Marriage isn’t an enclosed pen where you can now treat them like dirt and the law fails to apply.