Drugs and homicide

All this hullabaloo about that Panorama documentary, I must throw my hat in the ring.

It’s an expensive hat, don’t touch it.

BRIEFLY

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4471985/

Quantitative data from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) adverse event reporting system (7) imply that some antidepressants may be associated with a disproportionately high number of violent events (8).

so it is an issue, just not with the entire class

Duh.

That’s a strawman.

Find me one recent spree killer who wasn’t on these meds at some point.
Now look up the fact that brain changes are permanent.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/08/04/serotonin-part-one.aspx

You’re not supposed to take them unless you’re actually depressed.

The overdiagnosis problem is not a matter of theory, it’s a question of brain-damaging people with the blues.

And they don’t actually prevent suicide if you look at outcomes.
By rigging the chemistry, they can actually make it likelier, since the brain tries to compensate for the drugs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/12/rows-over-study-which-claims-antidepressants-double-suicide-risk/

Researchers behind the Danish review said the study demolished “potentially lethal misconceptions” about the safety of the drugs, which are taken by more than 4 million Britons a year.

The analysis examined 13 studies, to see what impact the drugs had on patients who did not suffer from depression.

Scientists said these patients were selected, because previous studies linking suicide and antidepressants had been dismissed by those who said the deaths must have been caused by the mental health condition, rather than the pills.

…Prof Peter Gotzsche, of the Nordic Cochrane Centre, said such feelings could be considered as “precursors to suicidality or violence”

I suggest there’s a difference in effect on men and women.
This would explain the male suicide rate and homicide risk.

https://www.cchrint.org/2014/04/24/ssri-antidepressants-the-gateway-drug-to-mass-murder/

drawing specific attention to a number of mass shootings that have occurred as a result of these drugs. Prozac, for instance, which is often prescribed for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), was responsible for triggering multiple mass shootings at schools during the 1990s and 2000s, while other SSRIs have been linked to similar shootings.

http://www.naturalnews.com/039752_mass_shootings_psychiatric_drugs_antidepressants.html

Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common… and it’s not guns

https://ssristories.org/category/cause-of-death/murder-suicide/

From the homepage

There is a U.K. organization called Hundredfamilies  (http://www.hundredfamilies.org/ ).  It is concerned about homicides committed by people who are mentally ill, and wants the government to do more to prevent these deaths….

Naturally this gets covered up because ‘stigma’.

Ignore the people trying to abuse and rape and murder you! That sounds fine!

Prozac can lead to suicide and cause aggression, at least. This is well-known in the field.

Anti-psychotics are the worst though, the strongest meds.

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)73526-1/abstract

It’s almost like the brain is a complex organ and you shouldn’t fuck with it.

The serotonin imbalance hypothesis of depression wasn’t even right. It’s been shown as completely wrong – and you can have excess serotonin problems too. There’s no evidence in humans for serotonin deficiency, and even then, most serotonin is produced in the gut so it’s really a microbiome issue. #biology101 Naturally, insurance doesn’t pay as much for that as psychiatric meds.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4165625/

In the studies where violence goes down?

Funding

The Wellcome Trust

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/846302

Psychotropic medications, including antidepressants, benzodiazepines, and particularly opiate and nonopiate analgesics, are associated with a significantly increased risk for homicide, new research shows.

Jari Tiihonen, MD, PhD, professor, Department of Clinical Neuroscience, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden, and colleagues found that antidepressants increase the homicide risk by 31% and that benzodiazepines increase the risk by 45%.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26372359

CONCLUSIONS:

The association between SSRIs and violent crime convictions and violent crime arrests varied by age group. The increased risk we found in young people needs validation in other studies.

ageism!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20004282

There is an association of homicide with mental disorder, most particularly with certain manifestations of schizophrenia, antisocial personality disorder and drug or alcohol abuse. However, it is not clear why some patients behave violently and others do not. Studies of people convicted of homicide have used different definitions of mental disorder…..

Mental disease is the original non-PC term for ‘mental illness’.
TBF NAKALT… wait….

According to the definition of Hodgins, only 15% of murderers have a major mental disorder (schizophrenia, paranoia, melancholia).

Mental disorder increases the risk of homicidal violence by two-fold in men and six-fold in women.

Schizophrenia increases the risk of violence by six to 10-fold in men and eight to 10-fold in women.

http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/kauffman2009.pdf

WHEN IN DOUBT, RESEARCH.

THERE IS DOUBT.

nobody has any reason to say You Shouldn’t Research That

those people are anti-science

SSRIs reportedly interact with 40 other drugs to cause
“serotonin syndrome.” This presents as twitching, tremors, rigidity,
fever, confusion, or agitation. Serotonin/norepinephrine reuptake
inhibitors (SNRIs) also may cause serotonin syndrome by
interactions

Excess serotonin.
Like I said the other day, a lot of these ‘depressed’ SJWs are causing their own ‘anxiety’ symptoms by dosing on the SSRIs instead of changing their life.

Just a year after fluoxetine was introduced, Bill Forsyth of
Maui, Hawaii, had taken it for only 12 days when he committed one
of the first murder/suicides attributed to any SSRI. In the same year
Joseph Wesbecker killed eight others and himself in a Louisville,
Ky., printing plant where he worked, after 4 weeks on fluoxetine.
Yet as early as 1986, clinical trials showed a rate of 12.5 suicides per
1,000 subjects on fluoxetine vs. 3.8 on older non-SSRIs vs. 2.5 on
placebo!An internal 1985 Lilly document found even worse results
and said that benefits were less than risks. Such documents were
released into the public domain by Lilly as part of the settlement in
the Wesbecker case. Fifteen more “anecdotes” of murder/suicide,
three with sertraline, were listed by DeGrandpre

This link has been known since the 80s

and we’re only discussing it now.

But trust Big Pharma.

The (depression) drugs don’t work

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/ssris-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/

I always make sure to ask a hipster SJW which depression meds she/he is on. Always SSRIs.

Why don’t they work, you ask?
I’m so glad you did. You see, psychology likes to bullshit its way to any plausible sounding causation without doing the Real Science of actually, you know, testing it. Against other explanations. Or beyond correlations. So with the big ($$$) problems like the umbrella ‘depression’ (which now, thanks to lax diagnosis, basically everyone has) there are at least a few Big Causes to be repeated ad nauseum while they can milk it for sweet, sweet funding juice.

Depression pills work on the Chemical Cause hypothesis.
Party line: Mental illness is caused by a neurochemical imbalance in the brain. Note the underline, we’ll come back to it later.

Sure, the brain has neurochemicals. Sure, they can be out of balance (and right themselves again over time, long live control groups). But did you know a normal person taking said pills can have their neurochemistry irreversibly altered? So they require harder and harder ‘medicines’ up to anti-psychotics, the strongest class, taken For Life? Funny that. Also, note the number of spree killers who had a history of this drug escalation in their files. It isn’t gun control laws. It’s the drugs. They don’t work – the way they should. They do work, to worsen already unstable people into psychotic episodes.

If you’re interested in a Berlin psychiatrist’s perspective, this woman is one of my favourite writers.
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/12/major_depression.html
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/08/a_solution_to_the_pharma_probl.html
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/04/the_maintenance_of_certificati.html

Disclaimer: medications have their place IF i) they are thoroughly researched ii) they are correctly applied and iii) they are banned from people who do not demonstrate a need for them (hypochondriacs, drug-abusers and attention-seekers are more common to a psychiatrist than any other type of Doctor).

Why should I care, DS?
Because psychiatry is moving away from relatively harmless SSRIs (if you ignore the Prozac suicides) to the stronger stuff, anti-psychotics. If they can fuck up a schizophrenic, imagine what they can do to normal kids who came in through the door on the blatant BS of ADHD. Expect more shootings, or gorey school stabbings, even if all guns were banned, and other horrific crimes that will be passed off as Religion’s Fault. Did I mention most people brought into London’s prison system, also meet some criteria for schizophrenia? YupThe biology of these medications, and other drugs like ‘safe’ marijuana, are well known. They just don’t care.

To leave you with a brain teaser, consider this addendum to the QM study already cited;

Interestingly, there was no increase in risk of violence for untreated prisoners with delusional disorder. [control group, no drugs] Drug-induced psychosis was linked with a nearly twofold risk of violence following release, but this became non-significant following adjustments for drug and/or alcohol dependence**.

Do you understand more than the researchers now, given this article?