“Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.”
Reminds me of the London riot fires.
Just in time delivery food?
Visible from the sea, London, New York or California. Trade hubs.
““Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off. 18 When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, ‘Was there ever a city like this great city?’ ”
Globalization, the ideology of OWG.
“In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’”
One way that can happen – electrical fire, grid failure.
“No worker of any trade
will ever be found in you again.”
Communist? Left-wing? A left-wing city narrows it down but greed is the theme. Pension gibs? Urban collapse from debt?
“Your merchants were the world’s important people.
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.”
Like false stars? Hollywood? Too simple, most of their money is in London anyway. City of.
“24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people,
of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.””
Human sacrifice, including plans to genocide the world. Proof.
The smoke from her goes up for ever and ever.”
Nuclear focal point?
“I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.”
War can be holy. The men who say they wouldn’t be drafted naively assume fighting is a choice. Fight or die is reality.
“12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
king of kings and lord of lords.”
Divine right of kings. If they hate God… false kings. Would explain the need to take them down, false nations.
“17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”
It is debatable what angels look like but they’re confused for people so who knows?
“19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21 The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.”
The single Silicon Valley network is the mark. Corporate legion.
Lake – lava?
Trusting man is expressly unholy, trusting man over the Bible warning about the mark? Whew boy.
“And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.”
Christian genocide, already.
The Satanists have a vested interest saying they lose so good people let them win.
“And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations” concerning
Urbanites = Golden Horde
“Seeing that you are supplied, they will leave their children in your yard and walk away,”
the eternal r
For the ‘smart ones’?
Sitting behind a desk isn’t a skill. They’ll starve.
Since it’s been a while since I included a conspiracy theory to chew on….
I read this
There will be no survivors from Esau.
Thought ooh! that’s edgy
and began researching.
I came to find this
Contrary to what others may claim, it doesn’t appear to refer to a race or geographic region. This would align with canonical references to such things as examples of wrongdoing, not the reason for it as wrong….being?
Anyway, here’s some quotes, it’s thought-provoking.
Or…. plain provoking, for those of you who can’t read and think.
“The question of the identity of the Edomites is a matter of great importance as we come into the latter days. What is the essential spiritual character of an Edomite? And as we shall discover, this is the key to the matter, not bloodlines or race.
Certainly the Edomite spirit has and still does track down through families. But any person of any race can become an Edomite by an adoption of that Edomite spirit. At its essence the Edomite identity is a spiritual way of feeling, thinking, and acting. It is not just a matter of DNA or ancestral lineage.
Being an Edomite is a matter of character and a certain jaded or negative disposition to God and to anyone who upholds anything that lifts up the banner of holiness or righteousness.“
So…. evil is hating good, really?
I guess like how the Anti-Christ is anyone who opposes Christ’s goals?
Why are these things always so damn vague?
If it’s so important, you’d think they’d provide details on how to spot evil people.
Especially if they’re your own relations, (later).
“The spirit of Esau is a parasite upon the souls of men. It never forgives. Nor will it receive forgiveness. So the human hearts over which it rules remain “unforgiven”.
The idea that everyone is forgiven is fundamentally un-Christian. It never says that. It’s got, like, a bajillion asterisks, and that’s the rest of the books.
The Edomite nurses his anger; he “keeps his wrath forever”. And he never surrenders to God. He remains “unforgiven”. He never finds peace with God, peace with his fellow man, or peace with himself. Unless he repents, he cannot be saved from the wrath to come. Rejecting the blood of atonement for sin he remains bloody minded in himself. Such a soul hates everyone around him. He goes to the judgment shaking his fist at God. And descends into the fires of perdition in a torment that will last forever.”
” In this act of spiritual neglect he showed that he had very little interest in his spiritual inheritance. He was an earthy man, and a phallic sort of a man. Esau was a hustler, an exploiter of others and what others had, rather than a nurturer of plants and animals.He was motivated to “go out and get” things rather than to establish things and watch them grow. He preferred to ‘take down’ what he wanted in the wild. A life of cultivating plants and tending to the flocks was not for him. He sneered at culture. He rejoiced in being uncultured. Being wild at heart and a hustler was a badge of honor to him. We can certainly see that same rebellious and bullying spirit rising in our Western culture today. It is now becoming a matter of grave concern in our schools.”
Ah, high time preference.
“Esau wants HIS notion of freedom.
He demands freedom to express himself in any – – – – way he pleases!”
Pride is the worst sin, and really, the first. The dam-breaker of sins.
Looking like weakness parodying male strength, to me. Not even male.
The migration patterns are pretty solid ‘r’.
“Esau’s descendants are a different story. They are forever angry at God, angry at Israel, and and angry with themselves. They never repent. And so their doom is certain. Their final judgment was prophesied over them by the prophet Obadiah and mentioned in other places as well.”
So the question becomes, are the modern Israeli, the Israelites the Bible cites?
If you know much history… probably not.
“So as we search out the story of the Edomites we need to keep an open view here. We also need to our eyes wide open for a reappearance of people groups that scholars and historians have found it expedient to throw into the dustbin of history. Yes, this is sad but true. The dissemination of misinformation is often found to be socially or politically expedient. Churchmen are inclined to proclaim certain untruths because of pressures that are brought to bear upon them. They are “leaned upon” by the powers of this world to keep the masses “quiet”. This hiding of the truth is probably good for the masses. But God’s covenant people are going up to witness in the latter days. So these people not only deserve the truth but they will have an appetite for the truth. They will seek the Truth and find Him. And He will guide them and tell them everything they need to know.
Alright. Like IKEA furniture.
Others do not need to know.
So they won’t know.”
cough r/K cough cough
“Babylon is another interesting issue. Babylon was an ancient very worldly sophisticated and advanced civilization. It was conquered by the Medo-Persians in 586 B.C.. So the Babylonian Empire ceased to exist as such. And yet the Bible clearly speaks of a resurgence of the very same worldly spirit of Babylon. Mystery Babylon will be a presiding influence over a prominent civilization that will rise up to assume a key role in the end-time drama. In Revelation 17 and 18 we see a world system that the Bible calls Mystery Babylon. And where are the people of this Mystery Babylon to be found? It is unrealistic to expect that we can find end-time Mystery Babylon by poking around the ruins of the ancient city of Babylon 50 miles south of Baghdad in modern Iraq. This would be a useless exercise. That ancient ruin, contrary to what some are saying, will never be rebuilt. That old archeological dig will never again be the center of world commerce, world military power, and the wellspring of material sophistication that it once was. But according to the Holy Scriptures another highly sophisticated society will arise in the latter days, assume world dominion, and take on the name “Mystery Babylon”. This too is an identification that can only be achieved by discernment of spirits.“
me, talking to myself
My money is on America.
“If the Edomites are around today might they be found in nations such as ours. Are they here with us among the people of the West? Why not? The richest nations are to be found in Western civilization. Isaac’s blessing states, “Behold your dwelling shall be of the fatness of the earth.””
Maybe China? As the influence?
Pick a name out of a hat at this point.
“If you are a Christian believer then why fantasize about defeating the New World Order if the scriptures declare quite plainly that you cannot win?”
I distinctly recall something about selling cloaks.
Instructions were unclear.
“As for Esau’s spiritual and/or physical descendants just what can we expect from them? The prophets are uniform in their assessment of Esau’s character. He is a profane personality, a man of the flesh. He despises his spiritual birthright and ignores the blessings God has offered him. He doesn’t have time for the holy things of God. He will never repent. He has always eluded the flows of grace and he is always angry when he perceives that this present world system has dealt him the short straw or a “raw deal”.
victim mentality, check
He is also prone to become angry at God and other covenant partners such as his spouse or sexual partner, his business or work partners, or those who are in authority over him.
That doesn’t necessarily mean official, does it? Hates one’s betters.
He is prone to rages and fits of anger and the people close to him are at greatest risk for his domestic violence.”
“So Esau is forever angry. Apparently nothing short of God’s intervention, can stop his fierce rage.”
Who do we know, that hates anyone vaguely traditional?
The married with children nuclear-family types.
Basically, beware of the anti-natal.
“The Edomites live on. But tracking down the Edomites is not a matter of just tracing bloodlines, races, and migrations of people. The spirit of Esau lives on in the lives of many people. There are black sheep in many families. So it is not unreasonable to expect that many of the modern day Edomites can be found in the civilized nations, even sitting on church pews among the Judeo-Christian people in those rich countries of the West.
Here is the point that must be hammered home. The Edomites are people who have entrained within them a certain spirit. It is the wild hustling exploiting spirit of Esau. So the search for the Edomites should go way beyond our obsessions with geneologies, bloodlines, and DNA. The spirit of Edom still contests for the souls of men. Its seed is in the culture, the music, the movies, the books. And a look at our culture today shows Esau is taking over the hearts and souls of many as the days grow more and more evil.”
Degenerate, the word you need.
The psychology must be similar.
The media scholar Richard Grusin attributes the popularity of end-of-the-world scenarios in popular media to a phenomenon he calls “premediation,” the representation of cataclysm to build the public’s expectations for a real cataclysm. The plausibility of these scenarios matters little; the point of premediation, Grusin holds, isn’t “prediction” but “practice”—we steel ourselves for any number of possible futures so that we might overcome whatever trauma awaits us, like swallowing a pill to prevent the heartburn we know is coming. Because we know, deep down, that apocalypse awaits us on every scale. Premediation helps us rehearse our reaction so that, in the event of real chaos, we might behave in a manner more rational and productive.
There are no such thing as natural disasters, just fantasies we entertain to excuse our inaction.
I happen to agree, but those are called, for insurance purposes, Acts of God, and for a reason.
The ‘God is Love’ crowd fail to bring this up much.
Fewer people apply this to the 21st century.
- Physical sore, sounds like an STD.
“Here the judgment is specifically upon men and is directed to a particular group of men, namely, the beast worshipers who have received the mark of the beast.”
It doesn’t say where they get it but it only applies to men so clearly, an STD.
2. Contaminated water supply.
“The second vial is poured out upon the sea with the result that the sea becomes as blood (literally “it became blood as of a dead man”), and every living soul in the sea dies.”
3. Rivers and fountains are contaminated to those who killed saints.
The illness is a punishment. “The physical affliction stems from spiritual apostasy.” Sounds like many water issues around the equator, where reddish mud can cloud water to appear bloody. Lack of European technology to purify this water would cause illness.
“The angel declares that because men have shed the blood of saints and prophets, God is righteous in judging them in kind in that they are given blood to drink.”
4. “The expression “and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire” is rendered, according to the best manuscripts, “and it was given to him [the sun] to scorch the men with fire.”
“The implication is that saints in this period who are true believers in the Lord Jesus Christ will not suffer from this plague, and possibly creatures other than men may also escape. The wishful thinking of some that men would repent if they only knew the power and righteous judgment of God is shattered by frequent mention in this chapter of the hardness of the human heart in the face of the most stringent and evident divine discipline.”
Fire can mean pretty much anything but this one probably comes under cleansing fire, a purification process.
5. The lights go out.
Sounds like a solar flare. Wicked men are left to writhe in pain.
“The Scriptures plainly refute the notion that wicked men will quickly repent when faced with catastrophic warnings of judgment. When confronted with the righteous judgment of God, their blasphemy is deepened and their evil purpose is accentuated.”
Water shortages, pretty obvious. Unclean spirits and false prophets come forth. Gathering armies in the Middle East.
“Probably the best explanation is that the seven vials follow very rapidly after the trumpets and that the events such as a great invasion are pictured in their early stages in the sixth trumpet with a statement of their ultimate purpose that is actually realized in the sixth vial. The time sequence here may be in terms of days rather than months or years.”
7. Probable nuclear holocaust, if we’re talking about furious air.
“It is also clear in our modern day that the control of the air as well as space has become increasingly important in military matters. Undoubtedly air and space travel will increase rather than decrease as the end of the age comes upon the world.”
“Not only does every city of the world come under terrible judgment as a result of the great earthquake which leaves all monuments of men’s ingenuity in shambles, but the Scriptures also indicate great changes in the topography of the entire world. The sweeping statement is made in verse 20 that every island is affected and mountains disappear.”
Tectonic extinction event?
“Movement of the continents into some configurations can cause or contribute to extinctions in several ways: by initiating or ending ice ages;”
Another Ice Age is the way climate data points. And then there’s the concept of a nuclear winter.
Alongside or instead of a supervolcanic eruption.
“Supervolcanic events may also been potential causes of mass extinctions.”
As for man’s vanity.
“Such a hail from heaven falling upon men would have a devastating effect and would destroy much that was still left standing by the earthquake.”
I’m curious to see how this plays out.
h/t Popular Mechanics