Hourglass has nothing to do with fat

It’s skeletal. Even at a low body weight, an hourglass woman is still an hourglass.

QED.

She was an extreme hourglass, actually. >10inches natural Waist-Hip difference.

Marilyn Monroe was Not Even Close to a Size 12-16

Apparently around 13″ usually. Typical hourglass must be 10-11 inches to count.

Extreme hourglass is up to 13-14.

So what size was Marilyn Monroe actually?  Luckily, many of her dresses, carefully preserved, are still around to measure off of.  Further, one of her dress makers also chimed in with exact measurements he took.  Those measurements were 5 ft. 5.5 inches tall; 35 inch bust; 22 inch waist (approximately 2-3 inches less than the average American woman in the 1950s and 12 inches less than average today); and 35 inch hips, with a bra size of 36D.

35-22=13

the difference is usually continuous in Waist-Hip, regardless of fat volume based on same genetic deposition across the figure

Make-up can do that, sure.

It’s all the lighting and angles, right?

Tall women live longer than short ones

https://www.upi.com/amp/Health_News/2019/01/22/Study-Body-size-may-influence-longevity-in-women-but-not-in-men/6731548193467/

And from what I know previously, short men tend to outlive very tall ones, unsure about medium to slightly tall height.

The thin finding is ‘duh’ but the height one is surprising.

I guess it’s genetic?

Maybe leg men know best.

I’d like to see a more detailed study comparing within and between race but I won’t hold my breath.

This is why we can’t have nice things

>Women look like women, normally.
>Harassment and stalking, male superficiality and baseness.

Pick one.

Nobody thinks you really want the number or a chat.
There’s only one type of woman that gets solicited in the street, everyone knows it’s an insult.

Anything less than full androgyny is not hooker attire.
Looking female =/= sexual? The most matronly women have worn skirt, dress or heels. It’s a cultural norm.

Don’t talk to strangers.

Not just etiquette for kids!

It is still weird to solicit (actual word meaning) strangers in the street for any purpose, whatever American comedians tell you. Some of us are raised better. Instant bad impression, whoever you are.

She missed out the schizo verbal abuse when you try to politely, passively avoid the pervert interrupting your day.

Imagine if someone at a bus stop called you a bastard for not talking to them. Multiple times a day.
Men would be horrified. Oh, and you can’t physically defend yourself or pepper spray them, and their revolting hands might grope you…

Because they liked your “outfit”.

Gee, why do so many women dress like shit, wear huge coats in public, avoid men or get fat?

Maybe…. men’s behaviour had something, some tiny, little, fleeting influence on that?

Ask yourself: is this something ghetto trash would do?

If so, never ever do it!

You know, if a woman likes you, she can talk to you first?

Or a hey if she didn’t notice you and you’re in the same place for a while?

Avoid the circle of personal space. She can close the gap.

If she keeps it short, move along. A minimal response is basic politeness, savoir vivre.

You never see men’s mags say “15 signs she isn’t interested”.

Subtitle: and how to make a classy exit.

This would be useful.

It explains the entirety of the problem, forcing a reaction (abuse). Kinda like putting your job interviewer in a headlock. One step down from kidnapping.

So what you really have in most cases are men with no idea how an adult is supposed to behave, think you can “tease” people like in school, and worst of all, that think you can talk someone into fancying them.

The fat girls can’t do it, neither can you. Nice guy = great personality. No.

Men over-estimate their attractiveness, excessively. Not fancying you isn’t a personality flaw, it should be expected (most humans don’t fancy most humans), especially when you’re enraged about it. Doesn’t strike the casual observer as sane.

Whether someone is single doesn’t matter. Maybe, just maybe, they aren’t a slut?
Look at the statistics, young people are sleeping around less than their elders.

Why?

Those elders (Boomers, Gen X, some Y) and the young vibrants that think porn is real constantly being lecherous at them might have something to do with it. Women do not work like men. Random compliments make us feel worse. We weren’t thinking about how we looked and suddenly this sleaze has an opinion, feels entitled to tell me and thinks I should respond to it?

Like a literal magic word? (how stupid do they think women are?)

Like insincere compliments are hard to get?

Bad compliments are insults.

Why?

They make a heap of degrading assumptions.

For instance, women wear “woman” clothes because actually, they’re physically practical! A low neckline ventilates a hot bust! A breezy skirt prevents thighs from chafing (even in thin, non-anorexic women). Do I have to explain the sweat benefits of sleeveless?

Women already know this, ask women you know about the practical reasons for wearing clothes. It has nothing to do with men and entirely what we like. Not melting in summer is among them. Women probably stopped fainting because we could get some sweet, sweet breeze circulation!
If you had two globules of fat on your chest overheating your core body temperature, like a heat pad on your heart [1], you’d want low-cut tops as well. In the Victorian era, this was understood to be the only part you could bare – for practical reasons! Nothing to do with showing off or sex. You’re a perv.

Lingerie ads tell men what we wear has anything to do with them. Not really.

Some women try to dress to avoid male attention and need to wear deodorant under the boobs. Some women with large ones, all over. All over the boob. Sexy, right?

Most women hate compliments because most are from strangers, shallow, rude and poorly thought out.

Street harassment is totally okay if we’re allowed to pepper spray or shoot them.
Since women are the physically weaker sex and a random guy walking up to anyone, m/f, is threatening. Whoever they are. When they seem interested in taking things, willing or not, suspicions are confirmed.

It’s like lending a mugger your wallet. No, we don’t want to “talk”/give a #/”go out”.

We want to walk down a public street, in public, as an unmolested member of the public.

Huge ask, I know.

Walking down a street isn’t an invitation to impose yourself on anyone – man/woman/child.

Think how weird it would be to a man or child. No less weird to a woman.

This used to be standard protocol throughout the entire First World until the 20th century.

I think a lot of you would be shocked by how polite I am IRL. Self restraint is important.

Observation:

If you compare the way schoolboys harass and intimidate one another, it’s exactly the same with street creeps.
Invasion of personal space, cutting off avenue of escape, forced conversation, rude comments, stupid questions, illegal touching, acting like you’re the one with the problem.

[1] do that experiment, internet! Men could not last more than an hour.

The irritating fact of boob ownership is in winter, you lose heat from them.

WHO DESIGNED THIS?

East Asian beauty demands

https://www.businessoffashion.com/articles/global-currents/unmasking-east-asias-beauty-ideals

With over 270 million monthly users, Chinese technology company Meitu is in the business of vanity. The company has several apps, but their most famous one is MeituPic – China’s number one photo retouching app. It gives users the ability to alter their appearance with surprising flexibility and specificity.

Yet what is most notable about Meitu Pic is its uniquely Asian features and filters. There are functions to smooth skin, slim the face, add makeup, attach cute stickers, and enlarge one’s eyes.

And change their eye shape, by rounding it out, there’s no other way to do that.

And you thought Snapchat was weird.

I’m starting to think the guys who claimed a lot of makeup was witchcraft might’ve been right. If you’re trying to look like a whole other person… something ain’t right in the head.

Similar to MeituPic, Japan’s Line Camera and South Korea’s Snow also offer facial enhancement features.

catfishing premium

While these selfie apps may differ in terms of functionality, they all help users to beautify themselves in ways that are telling about the markets they serve. They provide an interesting lens on how women in three East Asian countries view beauty ideals – and why certain beauty products succeed in an increasingly influential region…..

look more white has always been their ideal, prior to any contact with white people

paler women have higher oestrogen

thinner faces are more feminine (especially the curve of the jaw) and White women have mathematically thinner faces than Asians

There are studies.

recessed chin there, in case you wanted to know what that was called

nose is similar to African, which has slightly more flared nostrils

European nose is straighter, stronger bridge, pointed, nasal tip can point up

Do they mention this?

Heavens, no!

“Traditionally, East Asian women have been held to a standard of feminine beauty that suggests they should be sweet and gentle. “

Geisha were prostitutes, see other posts.

No.

They were hookers. Not just strippers, there is plenty of art depicting them rolling around with men, penis out.

If they weren’t hookers, nobody would have paid that much for tea. Why did men never learn such a respectable ceremony, hm? Nor would they be depicted with their genitals exposed, like a hooker.

Asian men are broader too, it’s a racial thing before you go there.

Oh, did you think these studies didn’t exist? Yeah, MSM never mentions them huh?
There is categorically less sexual dimorphism in Asians i.e. the men look more feminine, technically, and the women more masculine, since their range is closer in both cases to the androgynous mean.

Eyebrows also vary by race, Asians have that garish Audrey brow but naturally, softer. Flat as a ruler and pointing upward in surprise. Asian women do a lot to change this about their brows (normally by cropping the Shock Tail) because otherwise their eye shape looks more extreme (and alien to Western eyes).

Is this right? That isn’t the point, they do it.

This is the female mask, most beautiful of all races.

Which sex does that resemble to you? Now, which race?

Neither hips nor mathematics lie.

Koreans do though.

https://www.koreaboo.com/buzz/scientists-generated-perfect-faceand-looks-like-kim-tae-hee-irene/

You can’t use plastic surgery women in a study of natural (genetic) beauty. Don’t be absurd.

Europe used to be full of those women. This is a Louis Vuitton advert.

It was the ideal of beauty for millennia.

You don’t get to claim that because someone got creative with a scalpel.

Asians don’t have eyes like that. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

I find it suspicious that whenever Asians study beauty, the result is always pedomorphic. There is never any sexual maturity (sexual dimorphism + maturity) in the features, which must be a deliberate, false omission of: high cheekbones, but gracile jawline (rare combination), cherry chin (strong teeth), larger philtrum than men (see Marilyn), smooth but not baby nose, full but not huge mouth, soft brows, higher forehead than men.

They erase all the masculinized features of their own women, it’s unfair. That’s an unrealistic standard.

The method is completely wrong, the aim of the studies is to search for an adult model, a real model. It’s disturbing many of their supposed results could be in primary school.

Compare with similar high contrast (pale, dark hair) but sexually mature.

Please tell me you can see a difference. Only the sexual opinion of (non-pedophilic) normal men (within a race) counts for these types of study into NATURAL, ADULT FEMALE BEAUTY (not popularity, classic beauty). It’s been proven you can only really perceive accurately your own race best. Nudging it into other categories is…morally dubious. Is it right to expect an Asian woman to look European? Is it right to expect every Italian woman to resemble Monica?

Yet I know sexually who men would SELECT – and that’s the problem, Asian variations of this study are prone to emphasize surgery and popularity. It isn’t historical or evolutionary (therefore instantly wrong, you cannot study it without this context). This is Darwin, accept it or don’t pretend to study it.

Some Western studies make the same mistake, fixating on Hollywood (celebrity, popularity) like they’re the best looking people you’ll ever meet (they are not, travel, they are actually subpar even within their own races historically).

Back to Asians.

They choose the Asian-specific features and say that’s the ideal, of all times and periods. …No? It reminds me of fat acceptance. If that were true, they wouldn’t be getting quite so much surgery to resemble a mulatto, at best (philtrum reduction). Both women listed in the Korean article have entirely the wrong bone structure, it is impossible to change the eyes and they are the root of the face. Bad nose jobs aside (like Paris Hilton’s and many stupid women, they got them done too small) their faces are too broad to fit (a racial trait), their mouth is ghoulish (too broad, too wide and fat lipped, Asians shouldn’t get injections it makes their eyes look tiny) and the face is too flat looking since it’s difficult to add (structure) where there’s nothing there.

For comparison, since I’m not denying Asian women can get very good quality surgery, power to them for hoodwinking the stupid marks with a fetish, here is a woman who resembles their template better.

Wang Fei Fei, but she is Chinese so they instantly discount her. Asians hate other Asians.

The stellar example of surgical improvement I have ever seen is this woman.

Im Ji Hye

but she made it obvious with cleavage work so despite being Korean… they immediately discount her.

Again, who is beautiful in the sexual selection sense, little Miss Nine Year Old or Tits McGee?

Their children won’t look like this and it isn’t hard to guess who they’re trying to look like.

Here’s a morph of Asian celebrities (mostly actresses).

Not that they’re getting surgery at all, no. I’m sure Scarlett Johansson’s nose is untouched, like Angelina Jolie’s….

so this isn’t a racial thing but a natural beauty point. None of these bitches have it.

They must wear contacts, for example, to hide the dead-eyed stare. Like a serial killer.

Pic or it didn’t creep me out:

 

Same huge-breasted woman as above. Instant loss of two points imho once she stops appropriating white women’s eye colours (phenotype range is important to classification). I would be scared to encounter that in an alley, she reminds me of a sexbot. Her neutral there looks murderous. On the contrary, as you can see, getting fuckdoll surgery makes a woman look far less innocent.

The entire purpose in all those cases to purposefully get surgery is sexual enticement (one husband or lots of boyfriends, doesn’t matter).

The breast work just makes it obvious to foreigners.

The so-called perfect Asian face is based on a genetic lie (surgery).

Let’s look at method

One Korean researcher decided to apply Asian features through computer graphics on top of the mask layout, giving the results of the “perfect Asian face”.

No. That isn’t how the mask works, the data is already infused INTO the mask, which can be separated by RACE and SEX. He has essentially scribbled over the truth with only the positive features of surgical, trendy women he wants to fuck. Is that science?

When I say scribbled

I mean scribbled. And with the exclusions (so the whole thing is a sham), it fits white women better.

englishblonde

Yes, very Asian…..

The “perfect face” has an egg-shaped head, big bright eyes, a narrow and sharp nose, and medium-sized lips.

englishblonde2

Because the sampled women were all trying to look like THAT.

You can even see through the mask to the way it discounts Asian female features.

The Asian mouth is broader than the mask (mouth corners upturned, width remains constant), the Asian nostrils and nose are bigger than the mask, the Asian face size is bigger than the sketch and should be horizontally broader, the mask brows are lower and curved than the (cropped) Asian ones, the nasal tip and chin of the mask are more defined than the Asian girl, it’s all right there!

I hate noticing things, really. It’s such a burden.

Look at this horse-shit.

“Chinese herbalists have concocted special tinctures, tonics and elixirs for over 5,000 years to specifically address individual skin concerns. This knowledge has passed down from generation to generation and is what we use today to formulate many of our beauty concoctions,” Brian explains.

No, you’ve been giving them plastic surgery, developed in the West, not rubbing their face with tiger’s nuts. Next you’ll claim you invented pearls (Scotland’s had a roaring trade in them too before China stole cultivation methods in the last century).

http://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2017/04/an-illustrated-old-english-herbal.html

Anglo-Saxons had herbalism too, you didn’t invent shit (you can’t take credit for inventing a fucking PLANT) but Cheryl Cole’s face is still pumped full of plastic shit. As it is, Europe has better biodiversity of plants and more (most) useful ones for skincare e.g. rosehip, lavender, orange blossom…

why lie?

As for Fan Bing Bing (what kinda name…) any woman who relies on eye makeup to get her eyes to look that beautiful way…, isn’t actually beautiful?

White example

Asian example

The problem with so much deep, structural surgery is that with less makeup, it looks Uncanny Valley.

If you’re going to go to such great lengths to look like us, be decent enough to admit it?

Artist’s “Asian” inspiration, now VS. Victorian Valentine, typical face.

Update: let’s throw this in, why not? re the philtrum and smaller mouth

http://buism.com/facebody.htm

 When it comes to the face there’s just one shape-shifter and that’s the entire mouth area (i.e. upper lip, lips, and chin). The mouth area is capable of articulating many, many distinct sounds. Just like frequently using the hands, frequently using the mouth results in a slender, lean, and petite mouth, including the upper lip and chin. Also like the hands, disusing the mouth produces a loose, flabby, and enlarged mouth area.

speaking better, being classier = more feminine mouth (small range possible, muscular on top of genetic)

The main muscle involved here is the one surrounding the lips, the orbicularis oris. If you’re trying to achieve a feminine face, I suggest speaking speak with great frequency and articulation. Not all languages are equal though—some neglect the orbicularis oris while others heavily rely on it. French, for example, seems to have a lot of words with the “oo” sound, like “beaucoup.”

dialect too

Many more muscles that attach to the orbicularis oris (mouth) and I believe they are all gender-neutral, or slightly favored by males. This is my conclusion after observing many faces and seeing little to no sexual dimorphism in this area. This is much like limbs, between the chest and fingers or between the butt and toes. They are not nearly as sexually-dimorphic as breasts are to a male chest, but the muscles seem to be slightly favored by males. So the updated picture now shows the orbicularis oculi and masseter muscles in opaque blue to denote that they are greatly favored by men.

but cheekbones are bone structure, literally

zygomatic arch

The final archetypal male and female faces.

                Unlike muscles of the body, some facial muscles aren’t attached to bone at all; some muscles are attached to other muscles. This means that tighter, more-developed muscles can pull on weaker muscles and facial organs. Tight midface muscles (in translucent blue) can enlarge the mouth area—including the base/wing of the nose—if the mouth muscles are weak. The average male partially uses some of the midface muscles and disuses/underuses the mouth muscles. Thus, the average male develops a wider mouth and nose than the average female.

well hold on the jaw is broader, larger and the lips thicken

The average female underuses the midface muscles and fully uses mouth muscles, which results in a pull towards the mouth. This produces a narrow nose, defined philtrum, small mouth, and narrow chin.

smooth nose (defined structure from bridge to tip), higher (length) or more well-shaped philtrum, rosebud lips and cherry chin

but philtrum especially is genetic in pronouncement and an indicator of fertility (men are under-studied)

The entire mouth area is large and loose for men and compact and tight for women.

This is not my opinion as you can see but plainly observable fact. Women have a longer philtrum and smaller mouth by breadth than men. Ah, some troll demands, wouldn’t we observe this in Marquardt’s masks?

We would.

That is the most feminine face humanly possible.

China rigs bikini contest

in the most hilarious way possible.

https://www.elitereaders.com/miss-world-bikini-exclusive-contest-for-the-chinese/

Asian supremacy so fragile.

Sure, they just “forgot” to include White women.

Terrified of being outgunned by the average girl from Hull.

Who would win? One billion plus Chinese or… the average White figure?

That’s plain pathetic. And how many of those had surgery? If that was part of exclusion criteria, there’d hardly be anyone.

It must be tough holding your barely sexually dimorphic, pedomorphic females to womanly standards of physical development.

Meanwhile, in England-


Shall we blame Royal Mail? Did the invites get lost in the post? Will it happen next year?
The only curves Asians can do are in textbooks, get a reality check.

Stop trying to be white like a Twinkie and be happy with your gamine boy-toy-looking women.

Hell, even black (and I mean BLACK) women have got you on this.
https://www.elitereaders.com/sudanese-model-queen-dark-advocate-self-love-diversity/
Good for her.
They are hardly renowned in attractiveness studies for ranking top.

Hourglass Asians do not exist, their race lacks the sexual dimorphism. Look at pelvic width, you can’t buy one of those! That’s why their surgery and ‘beauty hacks’ and makeup are the most advanced in the world. It’s called erotic capital because they’re status whores.

Nice? No. True? Yes.

Imagine a Mr Olympia herculean contest with exclusively 100% Asian men. I don’t fucking think so.
So why hold the women to a higher standard? It’s unfair. They can’t compete, this literally proves it.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?77783-TO-ALL-WHITE-MEN-please-don-t-date-and-marry-Asian-girls-(-ugly-make-up-fake-)/

Good luck finding an Asian woman throughout all of history that looks like this without being trussed up and stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey.

Lesson? Asians lie about everything prestigious.

The market problem with Patriarchy is false advertising of daughters.
They are bred as attractive as it’s possible to go, it’s only downhill from there. Their very demeanor is fake (the scourge of fake femininity) and cracks around menopause if you’re lucky. They are naturally kind only under financial hardship and cruel men. Otherwise, spoiled cunts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_sickness The majority of the worst divorce stories involve Asian women, they are ball-busters.
They’re fully looksmax-ed, that is It. That is their peak, the furthest right reach of their bell curve of SMV.

Stop trying to fob off your average-looking under-developed women to the West for anchor, higher status half-white babies. You’ll have as much luck opposing evolutionary preferences as the chubby-pushers. Migration habit to one side, it’s so r-selected to rig a competition so a true one is impossible. Don’t let ‘child per woman’ data fool you, Asians are r-selected, they expand to fill any area they live in until all the resources are consumed (hello Japan). There isn’t a single billion white people, but a 4.5 billion Asians. They are the world majority, well over half of the world population. By comparison, Africa, a bigger continent by survivable habitat, contains 1.2 billion. Asians are now buying up and swarming Africa, this should tell you who is the Ultimate R. They also lack the time preference to resolve basic problems e.g. elderly care (hello Japan).

The demographic threat to Ks is yellow.
If we resolved the African boom problem, they outnumber us about 10:1.

And not one good figure to spare.

They’re not even skinny, they’re just squat, I’ve seen more lithe famine victims.

Racial differences accounted for in beauty science [face only]

I have noted the Marquardt mask before and the frequent misconceptions about it. I glossed over one valid criticism because I couldn’t find the data on hand at the time and didn’t want to say ‘just trust me’. #dodgyAF
I’m not going to insult anyone because that’s for people who lack empirical proof. I never met someone who chose to be ugly and we cannot help what we are born.

I’m not going to make cross-comparisons because that would be mean and likely biased to certain ascribed values.
Instead, this is how they vary by pure mathematics from the universal template for the human species.

There are only female masks and examples here and I do admit there needs to be equal research on male beauty.
Please, believe I want this as much as the next woman.


Here are the European, Asian and African variations.

Try to claim ‘cultural standards’ now, chewing on humble pie.

European example, frontal/anterior view.

Description given, italics mine because ‘slightly’ on this scale is huge: “EUROPEAN VARIATION FROM RF MASK Slightly vertically thin upper and lower lips Flat eyebrow (very little arch) Slightly wider nose Lateral border of the face slightly wider than the Mask Possible: Narrow eyes, longer vertical chin, longer nose.”
For example comparison, here’s the Asian prototype. A blind man could feel the difference. Yellow fever is creepier than White fever because Asian women resemble children, with faces most like babies (see, bust size, band size is fairly objective) whereas European women tend to resemble teenagers.

Description given, italics mine: “ASIAN VARIATION FROM RF MASK Medial epicanthic fold Lateral epicanthic fold Lateral border of the face significantly wider than the Mask Eye brows slightly superior to that of the Mask with shorter tails Slightly wider nose and nostrils (nasal ala and nares extend laterally) Superiorly positioned nasal columella creating a longer upper lip.”

Note: there are differences and the legal contrivance of a portmanteau ‘Caucasian’ is a myth based on geography (see the MRH), there is as much distinctiveness as between, say, European and African. As with all Asians, if you split by the demographic of sex as well, there would be greatly reduced sexual dimorphism (the men and women look more alike than Europeans by the same token comparison). This explains the great lengths the cultures go to, to distinguish themselves (makeup and what I and others consider fake femininity).

Further note: nobody meets the universal human standard. Nobody. This isn’t a point of so-called white supremacy, but white raced-women tend to conform to more of it on average, by chance.

Bear in mind, facial beauty is a reliable indicator of Darwinian fitness (see The Mating Mind) and positively, quite strongly correlates to IQ. That’s right – hot people are smarter too. The smart thing to do in an age that despises intelligence is to hide it.

Why don’t I make more scholarly posts?

1. The data isn’t collected to parse. 2. The data is suppressed (publication bias, left in the metaphorical drawer). 3. It’s behind a paywall or similarly hidden from sharing, meaning you’d have to trust my word and discussion, being less reliable and a general waste of everyone’s time. 4. These posts are literally my least popular but the most true. C’est la vie, mon amis.

What am I forced to do? Post gifs for every occasion and go under-appreciated.

notyourtypebeautifulthoughtshide

The evolution of facial beauty, including the lips

They always study women for these things in general, it’s dumb.

Beauty is not sexy, sexy is not beauty. Sexy is Hollywood culture and porn, but I repeat myself. Beauty is sexual dimorphism (extremes into their own sex, not a cross-breed), fertility and evolution. ‘Male beauty’ standards would wound too many egos. At least they can go to the gym for below the neck stuff, and you’ve seen the butthurt on height when it’s linked to healthier babies from superior childhood nutrition and hormone balance, as well as genetics.

Many factors here.

http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/366/1571/1638

http://evolutionbioc334.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/evolution-of-lips.html

There is a hard limit on lip thickness based on the vermillion border and African lips need a masculine high-T jawline to hold the structure’s area size and weight, which neutralises the ‘gain’. They signal sexual maturity of the other lips, that is all. Jolie inherited hers from her father, and this is more common than via the mother, so it isn’t actually specific to women but men (like better nails and eyelashes, it’s unusual in women). A little plumper than her childhood ratio is an individual cue to fertility, not the supernormal exaggeration of cosmetic filler.

Women with a larger mouth require more filler to achieve the same fullness.

African lips also age terribly and sun burn worse. The wrinkles are aging and with tissue loss (aging), sagginess kicks in really quick (pillow lips, stretched natural skin container for artificial material).

Evolutionally, anyone who survived the Ice Age couldn’t lose more moisture than was absolutely necessary. As a mucous membrane, the lips require harsh upkeep and lose a lot of water as well as heat, to keep warm.

A small selection pressure.

marquardt_mask_small-lips-rosebud-mouth

This is the FEMME Marquardt beauty mask you never actually see, because they don’t use it.
The androgynous morphed male-female one is commonly used all over the place to brainwash us.
On the right is the same face by mathematics, with the angles smoothed into a skin-like surface using the neutral colour grey, as artistic midtone. THAT is the most objective female beauty standard.

Look at the area covered by that mouth. It’s a rosebud mouth, tiny BUT ALSO full.
Taut and youthful, but sexy, and not sagging.

Area covered is genetic, based on the width of the mouth opening, fullness by side profile is hormonal. Note the pronounced Cupid’s bow.

Science doesn’t give a fuck about your feelings.

Examples from Old Hollywood

merle-oberon-1933-oval-face

vivien_young-hair-up

hedy-lamarr-young

grace-kelly-doll-angle

grace-kelly-beauty

Maximum area for beauty