The atheistkult is trying to replace the dogma of a God with the doctrines of scientism and faith in your fellow man like Saints of Truth. Don’t do that. If you change your beliefs, that’s on you, don’t shrink in agency, externalize your locus of control and shift the ‘blame’ onto someone else. You don’t get to blame life (the fates) or society (elders) or the internet (you don’t have to trust what you see online).
Your brain is your business, you are not being influenced by external forces (demons, in ancient terms).
Own your choices, you scoundrels.
A minor point but many men have a magical conversion from faith when their sex hormones start surging, and happen to magically remember like an 80s movie amnesia patient once those settle down in the 30s/40s and beyond. No. That isn’t how it works. There is no Christian of convenience, you were never Christian. A God-fearing person cannot un-know that intuition about the spiritual world. You cannot un-see the colour blue. You cannot un-understand the structure of a peeled orange.
You are in denial, more clouded in judgement than ever. Look up the psychiatry of Freudian denial, it is just the same. A denial of motives, base instincts and a solution to what we now call cognitive dissonance. By consciously lying to yourself. Otherwise, why feel the need to convert people to atheism, if you are so certain of your position? Why does there need to be a term for not thinking something? Where does the obligation to save them come from? Francis Bacon? Shall we make him a Saint on par with George?
Wait, he was Christian, never mind. Christophobia fits far better than other religions, because the fear demonstrated of Christians, not the Church or state power but everyday happy people minding their own, is astounding. The self-styled atheists posture themselves as anti-Christian. They are some of the most pro-Christian people alive. Why do I say this? They believe Christian culture is the norm, Christian principles and rights (WASP, classic liberalism) are greatest thing ever, undeniable and should apply to the whole world, like missionaries. They want to spread the WEIRD culture, the Western attitudes. Raising awareness and education? Set up an atheist church and stop kidding yourself. Hold meetings every Sunday over a copy of God Delusion.
What will they do when Dawkins snuffs it?
Does he get a funerary rite?
There is no study of Christians and atheists in a hospice or dying at home (that I have seen), but I can bet what it would say. Atheists hate their life (observation), blame God (blame game again) and become bitter with each birthday (since this is all there is and deep down, they know they waste their potential). Wouldn’t such a study prove once and for all which mode of life is superior?
The humble pie would choke such prideful people.
We are not fooled by Churchians or CHINOs. There is no such thing as born-again (American horse-shit) and still, when someone does repent, they don’t arrogantly boast or pridefully boss around others,assuming they are forgiven. You can never presume forgiveness (pride, knowing God’s mind) but must act to prove yourself the rest of your life (yes, commitment!). The former sinner does not have moral authority over people who always did the right thing, what could they possibly have to teach that isn’t obvious?
Most men (mankind) are too weak and selfish to handle the requirements of religion (even fasting) and too caring of materialism or fleeting, false popularity to believe in anything deep (any-thing). They simply aren’t good enough for religion, they know they would fail and so oppose anyone who does embrace it (envy, wrath).
To see someone successful at it enrages them (they seek out Christians for this reason, to troll because they know they have no argument), like an SJW witnessing an attractive, feminine woman, her blood boils.
To tear someone down, they must be above you. It must work. They are dishonest about this.
Religion isn’t the false consciousness (post-Reformation Christianity at least), it’s acting like you have a religion but denying to yourself that you need it psychologically.
You do, humans do (read more studies) but you are bad at it.
If you believe in religious freedom so much, leave the Christians alone. Don’t try to make it political. Go after every other religion, too? All hundreds of them? Apply your Crusaderism to the world, equally and logically.
I keep seeing men getting all craven and become weaklings on the topic of cutting off their spiritual life like it was a tumour. What, like a God figure isn’t going to see into your heart and know it’s full of shit?
They try to make out like piety and the pious are damaged. No, it’s a virtue. You keep it quiet but it’s there. In modernity we call it a conscience and people who mock those are the damaged ones.
At the very least, the protectionism, lies and funding scams on the taxpayer should infuriate these (mostly small government) men but that would require consistency. The Reproducability Crisis barely made a drop in the ocean, such is their pursuit of truth.
You don’t get to define the truth, that is a lie.
The truth exists beyond you, it isn’t relative, it won’t be something you’ll like.
The Boomer switch into postmodernism is rooted in one philosophy that many so-called smart people miss: moral relativism. For something to be good, there must be evil. The world is an absolute down to magnetic spins. You cannot deny this duality, polarity and opposition. You try. Squirm all you like, you know I’m right.
You can’t embrace truth without punishing liars.
hate what is evil, cling to what is good
If you want to be atomic and selfish, don’t inflict it on other people. Cruelty is never a morality. The amoral are united by their cruelty.
Before some troll goes there:
Do I think churches should be taxed? Yes. Fully. If it’s part of society, it should be taxed. Do I think religious schools should be funded on the taxpayer? No, none. Real Christians don’t need a fistful of cash to teach. Schools need huge funding cuts overall and to slice away the Ivy League style donations funds that leeches feed off. These debates are nonsense. There are standards and if Christians cannot meet them, we should all throw a Kool Aid party like war-time Berlin.
We’ll have to when national debt crunches us anyway. (Seriously, a lot of Gen X/Y will kill themselves when the circuses stop, they’re completely maladapted to a real economy).
If they’re going to keep shooting at you, make a smaller target. (Galt, basically).
Listen, if you want to be a conceited prick and lord it over people who deny themselves various things, fine, but you also need to get off your smug high horse to do it. You cannot be both. You cannot think yourself a good person while doing evil (or antisocial) things. If you’re destructive, you don’t get to bask in a halo-like glow of the creative.
You don’t get to pretend you’re deep when your understanding of religion (any) is so facile it was shaken by rhetoric (which is all emotional, you children) and so fragile your lifestyle and mindset can be ‘debunked’ by Youtube videos.
I have seen this claimed and they acted like the internet posters were peerless holders of knowledge. No, that’s a cult. No human knows everything.
Someone who is completely cynical believes in nothing, betrays themselves as incapable of belief and fulfilling that vital side of life (look at the studies into life expectancy and happiness!) and cannot be trusted on a subject they are incompetent at. I do not ask to play netball with a person who has no hand-eye coordination.
These people are not intellectuals and certainly never philosophers.
All they have are buzzwords, memes and smug mockery of people happier than them – narcissists.
Parental issues to one side, they need to look at themselves before judging something they can never see.
Virtue signalling doesn’t work for people who don’t believe in virtue. They grow increasingly desperate and we see that with the mutation of SJW talking points. Dawkins was swallowed by it! Where was the solid security of his principles then? The man is weak, he has the principles of quicksand.
Christianity hasn’t been a ‘threat’ to him in decades. He still spends most of his time grinding away at the Church with a personal grudge, now an angry, bitter old man taking speech shekels. He won’t dare be brave enough to handle the Muslim problems. He won’t admit demographics anymore, such is his love of money…
Typical Boomer logic: I’ll be dead so LOL, that isn’t my problem!
Science is not an opinion, it has never had one unchanging position on anything. Many scientists are religious (there are studies) and it seems the most important the scientist, the more religiosity they have/had. As for ‘stupid’ beliefs, that isn’t how belief (subjective) works. I bet these same guys believe in UFOs instead of angels, Zion or ghosts instead of demons. Demonic AI is like a HIV among atheistkult. Stop.
Powerful thing you can’t see or resist controlling the world? Not Satan, nope!
Could we be living in an evil simulation? is an old idea. Can only rely on a Higher Power.
Demons do not mean what you think they do. Patriarchy and other ‘evils’ could be classified as demonic in ancient societies (Bacchus?).
Silicon Valley comes up with nothing new, it’s full of drug-addicted Ivy League morons raised on Daddy’s cash.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-other-tech-bubble/ You have to be rich to move there.
If you don’t believe in any fate, how can there be any luck? Basic questions never occurred to these supposed intellectuals.
To reiterate my original point, do not blame anyone or anything but especially science. You sound retarded. Science is a tool used by humans, you can no more blame it than a hammer on a bench. There is no divine authority to science because it creates nothing, it reports on somethings that humans note that may/not exist in the way they perceive. Science is a witness, it isn’t the cause of an event.
Accept your impotence.
There is no appeal to sacred science on matters of philosophy because science is a philosophy, a narrow one called empiricism. The Scientific Method is all the science there is and ever will be. It dictates nothing and often slaughters your holy cows e.g. Global Warming predictions, fail.
How could the climate deity betray you? You divined all the omens! Must appease!
Science is permanently changing and the fundamentals of the world do not. It is a logical error to apply it, it does not follow.
The method is a tool used by humans, who can be inept or corrupt or bribed or plain wrong. You have the typical polyanna leftist view of humanity, which all the findings have shown to be mistaken. Only philosophy can compete with philosophy (it is not self-correcting any more than a book is self-reading and whole theories are rarely disproven and discarded) but science is really a practice. You might as well be rain-dancing against the ozone.
Shake your stick, atheists, it’ll make no difference.
Muh Butterfly effect, O.K.
Science isn’t a magical force to replace the magical force you feel you lack control over. There is more in common between scientific reasoning (pattern finding) and folk magic (sympathetic magic) than you will ever know.
You can’t be bothered to properly research it and no, Youtube or Google do not fucking count. Specialist websites and e-celebs do not count, they are biased. You must do the work yourself and read some very old books e.g. Kant’s Pure Reason, any Descartes, some Newton. Do not stick to 20th century ramblings by glorified degenerates like Einstein, there’s a reason the major discoveries occurred before this time, the method has become weak as the people using it. If you dare bring up the sell-out engineer Nye like he’s a scientist, I will find you and fucking cut you on the astral plane. He’s like the mascot Barney the Dinosaur for scientism. A kid’s TV show presenter, look at your claimed authorities and begin to see why everyone ignores you. Society is structured a certain way because people are and people don’t change thanks to propaganda – you’ll know on your death bed.
Popper is a philosopher, not a scientist. There is no experiment to prove or disprove God, Pascal’s Wager is the closest we have and a sound, pragmatic view, but still – do not blame science for your personal flaws/sins. Science doesn’t work that way.
What you are trying to do has been named by psychiatry – like learned helplessness (related), it’s absolution of responsibility. It doesn’t exist.
Your body, your brain, your belief, YOU.
There is no method without experimentation and findings. No, talking does not count.
We were warned – Father of Lies, going all the way back to Loki.
Are you going to deny the frequency of human deception too?
There are plenty of studies, don’t be anti-science!
(Questioning findings is not questioning the approach. like hating one claimed work of art doesn’t mean you hate all art). It reminds me of the vain people who are too stupid to understand that they are disliked for good reasons so they call everyone jealous (clubber types) when you can’t be jealous of a vapid person whose entire life is meaningless crap. Nobody is jealous of shit.
Atheists insult things like white identity because you didn’t build that but hey, you didn’t discover anything past your navel so get off Newton’s dick! You aren’t allowed to be proud of that, it’s really sad.
Atheists fear the deadly sins being a societal standard again. Sloth in particular. Show me an atheist who has Protestant work ethic…. they don’t exist.
Gluttony is a great way to spot a loser group. Which religion has the most obese people? What if we include atheism? Surely the ‘logical’ people would be able to carb-count? If you lack the mental rigour to put down the junk food, why should anyone listen to you?
It’s like the findings on the socialists and communists being weaker and more likely to cheat for money in studies. You choose your belief to fit your personality and your desires, what you wanted to justify doing anyway. This isn’t noble, it’s low. SJWs don’t want to put effort into their appearance, so they claim it’s wrong to. Boom, you get what you want and a lush new moral high ground to boot! PUAs don’t want to admit premarital sex (PC term, actually fornication) would be counted as rape in a Patriarchy, the marriage license is the only valid consent, so they claim it means something else and rewrite history (fail to) – boom, everyone is giving them attention they want for being wrong on multiple levels. None of them want to change anything, like roll back the Sexual Revolution that let them work long careers in a rape culture or be club rats without the pressure to marry and become a Patriarch, it’s a rationalization and most people are like that, they don’t actually think. That’s the norm, the average.
Fine, be an animal. Don’t pretend to be anything else.
Crazy people don’t know they are crazy. Moral insanity used to be a common term. They don’t have it, know it, perceive it, recognize it, value it and scoff at practicing it. They are not free, they are evil. There is only a perversion of what is good for the world, psychiatry abides by this idea. Look at the wages of sin, all the cancers being caused by STDs. Almost like a punishment, isn’t it? In scientific terms, cause and effect? What you reap you sow, later and bigger? Asylums were commonly populated with this type of person, we now have studies proving neurological deficits e.g. hypofrontality. They are literally broken human beings and the behaviour is an outcome, the beliefs are excuses. They don’t have beliefs, they don’t have a moral compass beyond instinct.
A surgeon must cut to correct. A farmer must weed to seed. Wood rot must be exposed to be cleaned. It is the same with immorality.
NOTE: Agnosticism is assisted by science. The not-knowing. The moment you claim to know, that is not science, it is an article of faith.
In pure terms, an absence of faith is not more reasonable. Men are suffering new depression rates more akin to the female rate as their belief systems break down. (No, you’re not special boys, female rates are still higher because you refuse to marry. Little girls don’t fantasize about heading an HR department for fifty years). Remember, God is the ultimate man to believe in. You lose faith, you naturally begin to self-hate. Neither is your father the model of all mankind’s potential, he could be a write-off, you are not trapped by his patterns. Unless you choose to be.
Denial is unhealthy, it leads to physical stress that builds up and causes many chronic, fatal conditions on the rise (cancer, heart disease, MS, drug addictions, promiscuity, things demonstrably bad for you and your body and future). The escapism of substances or habits is particular to the male psyche, society used to protect you from it but you insisted you had the right to slowly kill yourself, waving your credit card in the air and begging to be enslaved.
OKAY, said the politicians, moving around their investments to the alcohol companies.
[Clooney owns one, FFS. Ain’t that a sign of collapse? Saint Jolie, also an alkie. She could be growing food for her little brown slave babies in the colours of Benetton (all brown), snatched from their parents and country into her silicon* claws. You know she bribed some people, you know. I guess slavery is okay if they’re brown and babies.]
It’s phrased like a religious conversion (I was in the darkness of religion but then I saw the light of reason). Reason is not the enemy of belief, reason comes after belief to understand it better.
You don’t doubt your existence, your name, your reality (AI excepting), that’s psychotic, to terminally (neurotic) doubt your faith means you never actually had it. I can’t lose a command of numbers because a few equations came out wrong. Still, the fault would be with me, not reality? Some days it looks cloudy, I don’t start saying the Sun might not really exist because I don’t see it today.
Constantly changing your mind is a sign of a feeble one. If you’re too open-minded…
Enlightenment is a religious concept of this gained knowledge. The first atheistkult tried to steal it as something objective. Nah, man. Not gonna happen. You tell me what an atom is without a continuum paradox and we can talk.
Your epistemology sucks Donkey Kong’s balls.
You know NOTHING.
At least we name the unknown and try to appreciate it (humility). You deny it exists so you can strut around like the Universe belongs to you. You’ll still be worm food, dude. You’ll be sorry. Nobody is impressed by brats.
*Her pick-up line used to be “Guess what’s real”.