Myths should be taught as myths.
Paying too much attention (to the wrong things) is a mind-killer.
Myths should be taught as myths.
Paying too much attention (to the wrong things) is a mind-killer.
I care therefore I fret.
Ah, but if it’s public for attention, that’s signalling.
The evils of self pity.
Acedia is procrastination.
Rumination causes depression.
To be sick with worry?
Studies for the sycophants.
Yes, SJWs cause their own depression. Instead of taking this as a sign their beliefs are wonky, they’d rather drag you down with them. “Anxiety” is a useful label over “tantrum”. Anxiety has physiological markers of lack of control that a well-timed temper tantrum does not e.g. cardiac. If they go quiet and sulk (resentment, brooding, wrath) when they don’t get the reaction they wanted, that isn’t how anxiety works.
See, rumination only lasts so long before the energy comes back up, to the boil, as rage.
Otherwise, they claim the illness is causing their accurate self-criticism as an excuse to ignore it than correct it. They get worse, duh. Woe is me, woe is me. Very selfish. They’ll compete with other’s problems. You could have cancer and they’d go on about some indistinct bad feeling they have. Energy vampires. But they don’t need to change, perish the thought. Since obviously they’re fucking #flawless (vainglory). The misery is something they perversely enjoy (for the attention and lowered standard) and to inflict as weapon on others.
Literally this meme. Except true. They won’t lift one finger to help themselves, learned helplessness, to force you to do it. That’s cruel, abusive manipulation. To take from others without need. Does their condition magically lift long enough to attend social events they enjoy e.g. festivals, holidays, conventions, theme parks?
Not how mental illness works. Malingering does though.
Maybe they deserve to be abandoned after five hundred times?
The psychology of nations
The psychology of revolution
If you give it to the State, it will waste it. On people who hate you. Your enemies.
Give on a personal level, to people who proved worthy. Smart people. People who do the right thing. Conservatives and libertarians. But you don’t owe them. Or it isn’t charity, it’s a contract. Did you sign a contract? Is your life in debt to Satan or something? Would society let you suffer and die, if you had failed? [yes] When did they help you? Are you still paying national debt, escalating? Is the public sector supporting child abuse still taking your taxes?
That impulse to give is misdirected to the outgroup. It evolved to give back to the FAMILY.
When you grow up, you stop believing in fairytales. Certainly, you don’t write yourself in as the Hero. Modern culture is infantile, many adults are more akin to children in maturity. The bubble about the Real World is the reason most of us are here. On Best Post I addressed this.
You can ignore me, but I’m not going away.
Neither are the ideas.
However, many of us have the uncanny experience of believing we are meeting a fellow adult only to hear as preposterous a belief as writing to Santa or hunting for the Easter Bunny. It’s hard to keep a straight face.
“I’m gonna change the world.”
“I’m gonna save the (animals)/(people)/(plants).”
“I’ll be such as awesome person when my dreams come true.” (Usually lottery)
“I work so hard and I deserve this” (They work 20 hours in full a week, tops)
“I don’t know why it happened, I did everything right.” (Where is the logic here)
“They wouldn’t lie to me………………………………….”
“I don’t need a plan, it’s destiny, I know it.”
“I’m passionate, all you need is passion” (2 mins later) “My life is so empty.”
They don’t hear themselves. They think aloud. The cognitive dissonance is apparent but if you draw their attention to it, it washes over them like a wave breaking over a sandcastle. They think they’re deep because they’re oversensitive and over-expressive (coining it) but really they’re deep as a paddling pool.
“I’m a fucking Princess and I will get my Prince”
“I need (thing), (thing), (other thing) and (stuff) before I can be happy/human.”
These people will never, ever be happy. Contented. Comfortable. Secure.
Their lives will always lack meaning. Don’t pity them, it’s terminal stupidity.
You know what they really want? Glory. They want the whole world to bow down in gratitude for how epic and awesome and totes magical they are, Just the Way They Are. They can’t be reasoned with, get out their way and possibly profit on their little crusade, as you fairly warn them not to do it. Play Devil.
These are the people who would have you shot for disagreeing with them. No quarter. No mercy. No option.
Almost all societies in the past had a complex bucket of metrics involving personal virtue, material success, and success of the family – with “impact on the state of the world” being an also-ran at best.
Between the 19th and 20th centuries, self-improvement switched from character, what you DO, to a model of personality, what you ARE. There’s your problem. The ___ of Personality.
Despite being their stated Life’s Purpose, they haven’t thought about Saving the World for five minutes straight. Know why?
“Saving it from who, exactly?”
The bad guys, presumably.
“What are you going to do with them?”
#~*sound of tumbleweed*~#
That’s right, the fastest means to accomplish that goal is unpleasant, the fastest way to save the world (but not all humanity), involves mass murder. And that’s how history was made. Dictators and all. ‘Saving the World’ isn’t fun, kids. The question shouldn’t be Can I? The question should be Why would I?
What I find interesting are the fairytale fantasies sold, e.g.
…Third, we can’t forget this entire time what the fashion/movie/sex industry was telling these kids. Women were entitled to strong, but sensitive, but not too sensitive men, who could read minds, were all millionaires (preferably billionaires) looked like Brad Pitt, voted Democrat, wanted sex, but only when the women wanted to have sex, and wanted to wait until she was ready to have children, and would MAGICALLY show up and be ready to marry when she was ready to take a brake from her “fabulous” writing career at 32 years and 7 months. Boys were fed the lies that women liked kind, sensitive caring men, who voted Democrat, opened doors for girls, and wrote poetry, and as long as you did that you would be guaranteed to have that hot, sex-addicted nymphomaniac that you’ve come to expect watching increasing amounts of internet porn. Besides, who can blame them? According to their teachers and parents they were the greatest people to ever grace this earth. Besides, they had college degrees and were “going green,” and that ENSURED they’d have great love lives….
The supposed red-pill men don’t discount the illusions marketing has sold them either. I would add they expect a charming obedient 10 of a future wife (whatever they are or do themselves, like it’s destiny) and the feminist women who expect a husband is like a handbag and you just choose him, have him and keep him like an object because he doesn’t really do anything or have an opinion. Husbands exist for their wives, wives exist for their husbands (this is a truism, if you question it, it falls apart).
Delusions on both sides. We’re both dehumanizing one another.
Reminds me of this gem: http://waitbutwhy.com/2013/09/why-generation-y-yuppies-are-unhappy.html for the inevitable self-immolation of the sheltered narcissist in conflict with reality.
Or the ‘scantron husband’ or ‘scantron wife’ from: http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/02/pick-life-partner.html
They see a list of requirements like they’re shopping for a power tool instead of a person to love and who should love them, as you can imagine, it doesn’t end well. The fairytales are fictional because the characteristics are mutually exclusive e.g. pure virgin vs. depraved nymphomaniac.
I agree with about 60-70% of this, I won’t do a full breakdown of what’s wrong with it because it’s generally okay. The comparison to children is sound because in the state of nature a man would be responsible for both his woman and their offspring together. Woman is like a placeholder between child and man in this tribal scenario according to strength and weakness but the childlike comparison holds true to an extent. Neotony is nubility is fertility and men have markers too. The reverse of the ones listed i.e. rugged jaw, height, shoulder breadth, cheekbones, brow bone, tighter ocular area (based on ligaments). He doesn’t mention holding men to these standards, despite the real MGTOW focus on self-improvement, which is expected alas disappointing. Do you think women are selfless and stupid? Is that honestly the supposed Red Pill position we’re taking here? Women are just as shallow as men, we simply don’t talk about it. Covered here too. If any honest human could choose between two people and one was hotter, we all know who we’d choose. The Red Pill has no place for liars who argue otherwise for their own ego.
It’s from a very male perspective, assuming too much about women based on myths like we’re an alien race and telling the fake MGTOWs exactly what they want to hear aka the blatant falsehood that All Young Women Have it Easy in the West ALWAYS. I mean, really? Really. Women are so well-balanced in this century, you know, so feminine and perfect and flawless, ideals of our sex. Women don’t have ANY problems… Cognitive dissonance is on the phone for ya. Ring ring ring.
I have never seen the manosphere acknowledge a Male Wall. Men hit the Wall. It’s called aging. Nobody with a secondary education would dare argue men are immune to the ravages of time and age, even if they had never heard of gerontology. Men are more interesting in this regard, and change more than women past middle age. Past 40 everyone is on the downslide compared to their peak selves (18-25) and physically men can extend this another ten years to 35, with enough hard work, but that’s mostly social power than physical prowess and the T-levels back me up. Don’t get Dorian Gray syndrome, guys. If you expect your future is gonna be rosey by virtue of not dying that long, you won’t dedicate the effort in improving yourself now, while the iron, and your body, is hot. Unless you’re lazy, hopeless fakes and just want to use women as an excuse to vent your innate bitchiness. Women don’t even put up with that dramatic nonsense from each other, it’s unattractive.
To ignore biological realities as they apply to your own sex is true blue pill. It’s the same thing feminists do when they ignore ovarian reserves, yet the manosphere says the sperm quality studies and psychiatric risk studies are BS…. No. It’s immature to assume the natural peaks and troughs of nature and disease cannot apply to you, or that you can arrogantly master an aging body. Will to power isn’t that strong, nor delusion.
It gets certain things totally wrong and I cannot abide this e.g. sex drive and gamete quality in both sexes are optimum age 18, it takes a few years for the reproductive systems to stabilise. Hence age of majority and marriage. This might be why eldest siblings do so well, they get the best quality of everything, including their parent’s genetic material. NOBODY gets better with age. Unless you’re a jellyfish or some type of lobster.
The general tone of this video savours bitter, as if women get all this help from men, and men never get any, ever, and everything is seen through a sexual lens. I help male friends more than female and I’m not the only one. It sounds reminiscent of the tired “Nice Guy” Lie, when being nice is just the cost of being in polite society. Stay in the basement if you want to be a rude gamma/delta bitch to everyone, male and female, because the world isn’t fair (it never was) and passive-aggressively turn against anyone who isn’t willing to pity fuck you for being a decent person, which is such a huge challenge apparently. Nobody is forcing you to open doors for women or carry heavy boxes. If you make a choice or offer, you don’t get to bitch about it. Man up and STFU. You don’t wanna hang around women, fine. There are other men in the world and I doubt they’ll notice. Don’t fixate on them when you choose to avoid them like a cloistered monk though. Do your manly stuff. You don’t need women, remember? This includes emotionally and intellectually. We should barely enter as a topic of conversation. And if we’re so (insert negative adjective here) – isn’t it embarrassing that the amoral examples can pussywhip you like that? I would be embarrassed, as a man, to let a woman, or women overall, have that much control over me.
Nice Guys don’t do things expecting a return. It isn’t an exchange, sociability and geniality aren’t hard for normal people; it’s an action which does not require reciprocation, that’s WHY it is NICE. No gold stars for you. It would be like a girl who goes around handing out home-baked goods who expects everyone can eat them regardless of diet and to be worshipped for it like she’s Nigella Lawson. I have seen this happen and it’s equally as petty and pathetic. The world doesn’t owe you shit. You aren’t under obligation to be nice to people, but if you choose to be, or you are a real nice person, you wouldn’t expect to be owed by the world for being yourself, am I right? That is a mindset of entitlement.
Don’t be like the feminists, or you may as well be their beta bitch.
I say this to try and help you. Your priors are flawed. There is no such thing as burn time, which is meaningless and doesn’t impact your future. You don’t have time to waste, you only have one life. Every single year counts. It’s carpe diem, not Waste Time Today and procrastinate my own future down the drain while being outcompeted by your own age group. This talk and the book basis are priceless advice for women AND MEN.
…I am not saying that all men in The Manosphere hate women. I am not even saying that any one of its writers hates women. But I am saying that The Manosphere is built on the tiny feelings of satisfaction that its thousands of readers – many of whom are normal guys who have a fairly healthy relationships with women – feel every time they can laugh or take a jab at what has caused them pain at some point in their past: women.
It does appear passive-aggressively weak to sneer at an imaginary woman (and the inability to see that same behaviour in themselves). Hardly alpha behaviour.
I know because I’ve felt the temptation to do so myself, and I’ve seen the same tendency manifest itself as a wide spectrum of self-supporting-yet-delusional beliefs (held by men and women alike, and not necessarily related to dating). Men like reading The Manosphere for the same reason that women like songs that tell them weight isn’t so important when it comes to attracting men: because it’s easier than admitting that they’re going to have to work harder.
Don’t expect a 10 when you’re barely a 6. Unless you’re rich, then she will take your money instead.
Men do not “deserve” a good woman [how beta to whine about it] any more than a feminist “deserves” a good man. Fuck your entitlement.
I can absolutely see how a girl would be drawn in to The Manosphere. In a world of sappy, sugar-coated, “everything-is-going-to-be-all-right” dating advice, the stuff you read on The Manosphere stings just enough to be believable. You might even applaud yourself for pushing through your initial distaste for what you read in order to learn from the “harsh truth” beyond. But just because the truth is often harsh doesn’t mean that harsh claims are necessarily true. Just because everyone else lies to you to make you feel good about yourself doesn’t mean that the person who makes you feel bad about yourself isn’t full of shit too. And as I explained above, there are good reasons to believe that a lot of The Manosphere is full of shit. What seems like a collection of articles written by men with absolutely no motivation to lie to you is actually a collection of articles written by men who feel shunned and mistreated by women in general (or at least have a history of feeling that way), and therefore have an underlying desire to believe that the playing field of sexual dynamics is tilted back in their favor. [DS: and the sex addiction is pretty pathetic] There is a reason why reading The Manosphere makes you feel like it kind of sucks to be a girl. What better way is there for a guy in his 30s to compensate for the feelings of sexual impotence he felt in college (when he was surrounded by beautiful girls he couldn’t get) than by inflating the importance of youth when it comes to female attractiveness? The assertions of The Manosphere are simply too convenient to be completely believable….. [even Brad Pitt isn’t as hot now as he was in the 90s, men have a Wall too, deal with it]
I’m sick to the back teeth of the “Have it All” mentality of some players, they’re just like feminists in that regard. They imagine some day they’re gonna have the 50s wife, the white picket fence and 2.2 kids. It ain’t gonna happen, you can’t have both. That sort of woman would be repulsed by your history and inevitable STDs.
As if a woman worth marrying is going to look at a burned-out husk of an STD-ridden player, after the smoking, drugs and drink, and say sure! I wanna raise kids with him instead of the stable rich guy who is capable of love and won’t cheat on me!
Here are the things that grind my gears on transsexuals, example men pretending to be women.
Nonetheless, the claim to womanhood by those who were not born to it does essentially demean those who were; the defining of a woman solely by her sexual organs and by what you see when she is or is not dressed is the province of Page Three girls, not of those proud of their sex and proud, sometimes, of surviving the years of trials it may have brought.
This applies, by the way, to both sexes: should a bold, male soldier be felled by an IED in Afghanistan and left without legs or gentlemanly tackle between them, would we then declare that he is no longer a man? Obviously not. It is widely understood that a fellow in such a predicament who cries that he ‘feels’ himself to be no longer ‘a real man’ will be hastily reassured by all who love him and all who treat him that he was made to be a man from the moment he was conceived and he will die as one, too.
Eunuchs are men. And they have less male tissue than transsexual “women”.
By the same token, I can no more shrug off my formative years and experiences than can Frank Maloney, now to be called Kellie. I can no more forget pregnancy and childbirth than, I imagine, he (or she, if I must) can forget the conception and fathering of three children; more than sex, more than body shape, more than clothing — and certainly more than wishes or feelings — it is these things that define us. Irrevocably so.
…But as long as the newly created Kellie carries that irksome, dangling little y chromosome, whatever the word is, it is not ‘woman’.
This is a fad. They choose to get this stuff done, you don’t choose your race or (probably) sexuality. Feminists are just trying to recruit the mentally ill, which is really sad when you think about it. None of their ‘logic’ holds up, it’s a fantasy.