Inter-racial domestic abuse

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3729.2012.00747.x

“This study, using a nationally representative sample, investigated intimate partner violence (IPV) in interracial and monoracial relationships. Regression analyses indicated that interracial couples demonstrated a higher level of mutual IPV than monoracial White couples but a level similar to monoracial Black couples. There were significant gender differences in IPV, with women reporting lower levels of victimization than men. Regarding relationship status, cohabiting couples demonstrated the highest levels of IPV, and dating couples reported the lowest levels. Regarding interactions among couple racial composition, relationship status, and respondents’ gender, an interaction between racial composition and relationship status was found. Implications for practitioners and directions for future research are discussed.”

Still need more studies.

While I’m here

Racial bias in family courts
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/fcre.12274

Inter-racial marriage choice
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12346

Inter-racial marriage satisfaction
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2009.00637.x

What a shame it’s hidden from you behind a paywall, voter who funded it.
If only academia had its own pirate bay (it does). If you looked.

Or ask someone with student access or e.g.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229056749_Communicative_Correlates_of_Satisfaction_Family_Identity_and_Group_Salience_in_MultiracialEthnic_Families

I remember reading this stuff then forget and mention it offhand years later and from time to time cuckbros will ask where’s the data assuming I make it up like them and it’s like, dude, just look! This stuff is studied, just not in enough detail for my nerd rage.

Link: Sexual coercion

http://what-when-how.com/interpersonal-violence/coerced-sexual-initiation/

It isn’t about “inhibitions”, like not being a tart is a bad thing, it’s about the ability to resist.

“not currently included in the legal definition of rape” False, it’s always been under seduction law.

Telling people what we should be told as children is great because everyone loves you except for the rapists, who out themselves in the process of complaining about warning people how to spot abuse.

Maybe…. don’t abuse? Then you won’t get “falsely accused” of it?
An accusation isn’t false because it happens to you, narc. (They reinterpret reality. Called gaslight.)

Sexual coercion can easily turn into rape, because if one No isn’t good enough, they won’t listen to dozens more either.

Saviour complex and toxic relationships

Something I don’t want to mock, excellent!
You’d think for the part of the internet that goes on, and on, and ON about victim complex, they’d also cover literally the other half?

https://everydayfeminism.com/2014/10/savior-complex-toxic-relationship/

“If you want to be the savior, you’re essentially saying to your partner that you see them as a project to be fixed.

Even if the challenge of their flaws isn’t the primary reason you’re attracted to them and even if they want your help, it still sends the message that you think they need to improve and better themselves somehow.

First of all, you’re dating someone, not flipping a house. You might convince them to make minor lifestyle changes, but you can’t expect them to completely overhaul themselves. It’s a little bit condescending to treat them as your personal pet project.

Unless you’re at least psychologically healthy, don’t. Sick people make other sick people even sicker.

Maybe they do want to make changes. Maybe they do have a certain goal in mind. That’s great. Allow them to accomplish something on their own. You can support them without spoon-feeding them.”

Don’t throw off the power dynamic, it’s unhealthy and neither one will be happy.

“You’re their partner, not their parent.”

And there it is.
Paging Doctor Freud…

“Second of all, your partner might be perfectly fine with the way they are and not want to make any changes. If you look for flaws as a means of finding a purpose or direction for the relationship, that speaks more to issues you might want to address within yourself.”

This is a male problem in particular. Hoe > Housewife? Hoe isn’t short for housewife.
They’re a person, they aren’t a broken car. Fix, repair, review are not words you apply to people.
You need to like them and they need to relax and be human around you without panicking you’re jotting a performance review in your head.

You may laugh but I’ve seen a lot of men do just that and wonder why every woman resents them. They intellectualize their controlling tendencies for ego. Golden rule, dudes. They never ‘improve’ other men.

Rescuers have a condition, the expectation you’ll save them back. In abundance of their effort.
It isn’t altruistic unless you mean the pathological kind. It’s calculating and dishonest.
This is why you pay therapists, the motive to help is clear.

If one person is Dad, but Tyrannical Dad, and always right, you’re wrong to be with them. They don’t want a relationship, they don’t want to relate and be vulnerable, they want an assistant.
If they can’t see themselves clearly, they can’t see you over their issues.

“Your partner is not your therapist, nor are they obligated to heal your past wounds.”
^This.

Where do they learn this? Ally McBeal?
I’ve seen men complain woman B, C, D… was evil because they didn’t ‘prove’ they were different from woman A. That’s an issue with woman A. Your issue. Especially if she’s your mother. Without woman A, you’d see those others clearly. They’ll never fix it or admit they seek rescue because it would mean being humble and accepting weakness or wounds. Avoiding help isn’t impressive, ’tis but a scratch, right?
Don’t get me started on the ones so jaded and terrible they’ve managed to turn the greatest thing in LIFE, into a child’s game.
Better to punch yourself in the nuts repeatedly, it’d hurt less.

Even if you do save them, what then? You have nothing in common anymore.

If they’re perfect, why would they stick around with you, the one who thought they were broken, instead of moving onto someone better? Objectively better.

Why hate on fairytales? The originals were hardcore. Anyone who believes the Disneyfied versions is already too simple to educate.

Old sexist adverts again – this time re men

HAPPY NOW.

A picture is worth a thousand strawmans. I’ve included ‘problematic’ implications.

ambitionpills
>Implying men are worthless without a fat wallet. Come on, we know what ambition means.
hemanvoice
>Implying bravado is the only true masculinity.
appeartaller
>Implying malnourishment (look it up) makes you less human.
artinstruction
>Implying men are useless if they do not take up an effete hobby.
marriedman
>Implying married men do no work around the house and are all lazy bums.
catchman
>Implying men are some strange hog-like creature which can be lured and trapped with fatty food.
improveface
>Implying ugly men are silly, socially clownish and don’t deserve respect.
drunkard
>Implying men are addicted, useless layabouts who need to be poisoned for the good of the family.
sexspoon
>Implying male sexuality is shameful, in your own marriage, like a schoolboy.

Pick-up scams are also old hat. There are much older ads that gave advice on how to talk, a coded phrase.
pickup1
>Implying the only thing a man cares about is women.
>Implying (all) men are desperate.
>Implying men value themselves based on how they please random people.
>Implying without sex, men are nothing.
trainyourwife
>Implying you married a dog. Who sides with an advert over their wife?
sexharmony
>Implying you’re doing sex wrong, whatever you’re doing, according to the male equivalents of spinsters, the bachelor. A random, single man knows your genitals and how to please your wife better than you do.
hypnotism
>Implying no conscious woman would willingly go out with you.
erectol
>Implying men must be ready and willing to have sex with anything at all times, like a pogo stick you can just hop on anytime the wife wants. Fuck consent, apparently.
avoidmarriage
>Implying love is a weakness, loneliness is a virtue, creepiness is male and men are users, sexual exploiters who don’t need women for anything like companionship.
gayboy
>Implying any man who takes pride in his appearance must be vain and well, gay.
millionlook
>Implying men are only valuable in marriage for their money.
magictie
>Implying a tie will keep your woman in line for when you inevitably fail to. A tie is more persuasive than you.
notopros
>Implying men are weak-willed and deviant.
learnyez
>Implying the only way to teach men anything is to beat it into them.
beatwife
>Implying domestic abuse is discipline, because a real man needs to strike a woman to lead her.
headachecap
>Implying a hat is brain food and men will buy this to be smarter. No, it literally uses the term brain-food.
manlybath
>Implying cleanliness is for sissies.
nervouspills
>Implying emotions are terrible. Feel shame.
malesedation
>Implying men need to be sedated.
husbandyouth
>Implying men are superficial and cannot appreciate personality and other invisible assets. Also, rather simple and visual, like a dog. About as much loyalty.
alonetime
>Implying a man who wants alone time is deficient in something, probably sex.
mustachetrainer
>Implying sagging mustaches are the male equivalent of sagging breasts.
meatjuice
>Implying … something about cavemen. I’m amazed that Juice Bro guy hasn’t tried to bring it back.

Mike Cernovich: Potemkin Alpha Male

someone who threatens to sue everyone isn’t a threat
I can’t believe Dick Measuring Twitter trolls are still a thing.

“why was this high-rolling attorney wasting his time with juicing e-books and blogging?” they always try to push themselves as worldly James Bond types…. the real JB didn’t need to cheat and he married happily, they can’t keep a good girl
and juicing is dumb, you need the fibre whole to balance out the fructose or you’ll die like Steve Jobs but no, they want their Ponzi get money/pussy easy scams and wonder why lasting $$$ elude them as they chase short-term prospects like psychopaths
“is a Potemkin alpha male whose success in life is as artificially inflated as his testosterone levels” they’re the male equivalent of mommy bloggers but instead of recipes and crafts, it’s supplements and angry rants about how Women Ruin Everything and Men are Innocent Victims of Vagina Magic – this is why other men scoff at them and they have no real power, they bitch like gay men and thankfully they are genetic suicides so, who cares?

imagine being so fragile in your identity you base your entire life around bravado and homoerotic posturing for other men?

my personal favourites complain about immigrants while being sex tourists and think living in Asia on pittance is ‘success’ to be envied – in the middle of nowhere, sure, everyone cares, nobodies with a diary male edition

it’s funny how they go on about female gold diggers when they have no money

datalounge has less drama but we’re supposed to believe these are the Real Men?

and how can masturbation be invented by Marxists? literally how

https://storify.com/SJWIlluminati/juicebro-is-fucking-nuts

that is hilarious, I have spread it to everyone
are they so full of shit because they don’t eat fibre?
it’s lifestyle blogging like the girl who goes to India and stands in front of a temple
“Twitter battle” used seriously
final note, why are the ragequit r-type anger issues guys, always the ones claiming to be either cynics, epicureans and/or stoics? #signalling

they aren’t even right-wing, as you can tell by their lifestyle, but anti-happy for groups they hate (currently SJWs) and that kinda dishonesty is the reason the manosphere was an abortion of Sexual Revolution signalling, these of Calhoun’s Beautiful Ones too vain, dumb and full of cum to be adults
Go Galt on desperate attention whores, whatever their politics or lifestyle, you’ll instantly feel relieved and it rustles their triggered jimmies the most

Internet Famous Angry Men

It’s been about a year since I last wrote about Michael C. Cernovich, the part-time lawyer, full-time Internet bum who’s publicly threatened to sue me (that is, when he hasn’t got me confused with Zoe Quinn.) Back then, I smelled a rat – Cernovich claimed to be a successful lawyer, yet he was seemingly no longer was actively practicing law just a year after finally getting his law license; and the address he gave as his law offices turned out to be a rental condominium in a residential neighborhood. Looking at it on Google Street View, there was nothing about the property which suggested it was really a law office, yet it was Cernovich’s address of record to the CA State Bar, and theoretically the place clients sent this big-shot lawyer their checks.

It was one of several details of Cernovich’s life that didn’t add up: why was this high-rolling attorney…

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Family finances and male cheating risk

So maybe the housewife cheating stereotype is based on taking back control?

youbeauty.com/aha/relationships-men-women-money/

When one party has too much power (in the marital dynamic), they take advantage. Financial abuse is rather common, because it controls by limiting the freedom of the other (you can’t leave, you’re so lucky I’m paying the bills, I’m good to you giving you an allowance like a child).
Creepy parental dynamics, people.

So no, we can’t go back to the imaginary model where the man is 100% provider, were that even possible.

Briefly on domestic abuse and self-defense

Domestic abuse is never acceptable.

I repeat for the slow among you-

Domestic abuse is never acceptable.

There is no excuse for it.

Here comes the reasonable objection What about self-defense?

Well, actually fighting back should be the last resort.
I keep seeing repressed rage MRAs salivate over the prospect of hitting a woman because ‘she started it’, or ‘she deserves it’ and they seriously think that’s how the law works and that the law is somehow unjust, while out the other side of their mouth they claim women are inherently weaker as a sex, physically. …Errr, yes, these two facts may be connected, shocker! Women are not physical equals! Which means different legal standards are not sexist, but in fact, based on biological reality. And totally fair. And the MRAs wonder why Paul Elam was exposed as a domestic abuser and deadbeat? Those who virtue signal the loudest on domestic violence often have a history of it. This is a common pattern with men who claim victim. What do you think abusers do, in the legal system? They always gaslight, they always try tu quoque, they always pretend they’re the ‘Real Victim Here’. The sob story is always Mummy Was Mean To Me so All Women Are Evil. Few variations, as if anything justifies abusive behaviour as an adult (and they always go after women because we are the physically weaker sex, a man might actually fight back!). Good parents aren’t supposed to be your friends. They sound like typical entitled narcissists and fall for Just World Fallacy, even applying it to other people’s abuse e.g. “Elam told her she had asked to be raped, and that she had slept with his friend because she was bored with her marriage.” So don’t give them a second of sympathy.

Back to the topic.

Men can inflict disproportionately more force in a fight per blow, they were evolved to kill other men, that’s why they need to hold back in all but life-threatening situations (the same rule does apply to women equally but rarely applies in practice as women rarely have that potential for overpowering). The law on self-defense hinges on disproportionate force for this reason, it’s never necessary. If it were necessary, that would be easily proven as a life-threatening situation and therefore it would have become necessary.

Restrain if you cannot physically leave but in all other situations leave, leave the first time they pull this and preferably report it. This advice on leaving applies to women too. Don’t stick around and reward them with your company or they will keep doing it. This is a standard enshrined in law but based in unchanging biology and case exceptions prove the rule e.g. A female MMA must hold back her physical force too, and those who abuse their boyfriends are also evil as the males, e.g. Ronda Rousey. If men were really the cool-headed and rational sex as they claim to be, they wouldn’t have such dismal control of their ‘temper’ that characterizes small children. There’s no such thing as ‘temper’, in fact. You aren’t being possessed and suddenly lack legal responsibility for your own fists (even psychotics are responsible for answering to their crimes). Neurological studies have shown giving in to violence is a choice when risk is flagged by the limbic system, fight or FLIGHT is engaged, and choosing to be violent once makes the person more violent in the long term by reinforcement looping. People will weak impulse control will often falsely claim their desire to harm or kill others was ‘too strong’ and overpowered them, with no thought to how that applies to their literally overpowering their literal victim. “I’m the Real Victim (TM) Here” bullshit again.

Either women are physically weak and need male protection by evolution

or

they’re equals in a fight and OK to attack, you don’t get to claim both.

Sports alone prove which is truth. We can’t need men and simultaneously not need them for the most basic provision (physical security) and that’s why deadbeats like Elam are such scum – r-types revoke the provisions they owe their offspring, such as physical and financial security, the most masculine and selfless provisions possible. It’s no coincidence they’re necessary for the healthiest children. To address a common myth: The problem with the children of single mothers isn’t the single mother herself – it’s the absence of the securities of a father. In this way, deadbeat fathers are always worse than single mothers, because women are always left holding the baby and the ‘man’ gets to leave physically or financially under specious pretense. I hate to say it, but to prove it, see how well children fare if one parent dies. That’s right – they need the father more.

TLDR: Standing against domestic abuse doesn’t make you a feminist, they don’t even care, it’s another funding exercise for them. It makes you someone who hates those that exploit perceived weakness to treat human beings as a rag doll for their personal failings. It just so happens most domestic abusers are men, and in fact, the figures in this one crime are skewed because the abuser’s best legal defense strategy is to file a counter-claim, this is almost always done. However, looking by injury, it is mostly men. However, such people exploiting others are always scum, as exceptionally strong women are also held to the same standard based on physical merit, making it not technically sexist legally or in theory, but totally fair. You should be against abuse on principle, whatever the sex of the people involved.

The sexes don’t have to be the same physically to get the same legal protections. They just need to be the same species: human.

And if you ever wanted a typical case study of the life and history of a psychopath, Paul Elam fits the bill better than any other American I’ve seen. Multiple divorcee, always blaming others, never learning lessons, accused of abuse by multiple partners, children by many partners, refusing to support said children, drug use, alcoholism, fantasies about violence, trying to provoke people verbally as an excuse for violence, middle-aged white male, persecution complex, entitlement complex, superiority complex, jail time served, anti-justice, will commit perjury in court out of hatred, low-class occupations their entire life, inability to commit to a job employed by others, nomadic and so on. It’s alarming how perfectly he fits the profile.

Consider this;

“the fact that there are a lot of women who get pummeled and pumped because they are stupid (and often arrogant) enough to walk [through] life with the equivalent of a I’M A STUPID, CONNIVING BITCH – PLEASE RAPE ME neon sign”

thatsjustsickewwtfgrossno

Behold, the blatant misogynist in MRA clothing, using SJW victim-signalling with the sexes reversed. #GiveYourMoneyToMRAs They’re all parasites using others’ victimhood as a sanctimonious platform for their own ego and grifting. If they couldn’t make money, they wouldn’t be there.
Actual white trash like this usually has a heart attack from all the clogged hate at his age. The world will be a better place. At least there’ll be plenty of historical evidence why he was trash. You can’t say he’s misquoting himself.

Abuse, rage and SJWs

Minor points. I saw a woman having a particular problem and this is an expanded version of what I told her.
Rage is a choice to hurt others because one’s feelings are hurt in a perceived slight. There is no such thing as ‘out of control’, you are not possessed. We may feel an urge to jump off a cliff, but it’s just an urge.

SJWs are not offended, they are outraged. Narcissistic rage, to be precise. If Trigglypuff were a 300-pound MMA fighter, would her tantrums be harmless? Funny? This is not funny, whoever exhibits this behaviour. It is very serious. Even children are capable of crime up to murder. This should be mocked but not tolerated and never considered harmless. It’s antisocial behaviour. It’s verbal abuse and all sorts of other related things, including intimidation, an attempt to control by threats (in this case, to lose their rag).

It is entirely conscious, and in fact, planned.
They plan to do these things, and hence, when thwarted, seek revenge.
Common sense: You don’t seek revenge for accidents.

First stop: gaslighting the victim into thinking they’re abusive for reacting with boundaries. Called playing victim. It’s a version of playing dumb. It’s a bluff in poker terms. Turns into a game of Who Started It, as if that justifies any form of abusive behaviour (no, never). They are children emotionally. Do not pity them, do not help them. In fact, it’s healthier to punish them but by omission, cutting them out. Get the police involved, narcissists despise authority. Cut off supply, get justice the honest way afterward. Stop them victimizing others but do not gossip. Best done by law enforcement. This isn’t school, you need to snitch.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/traversing-the-inner-terrain/201205/is-rage-choice

The violent toward those they claim to love cannot express love. They may not even feel it (psychopaths). They can feel relief from control over something external to compensate for their weakness, the power dynamic they ‘confuse’ for love, and also call their inner issues a matter of external cause (e.g. you made me hit you for misbehaving, as if they’re your parent instead of an equal). Rage is a red flag to do something. Before civilization, this meant killing the threat. We are not like other animals. We all have control, this cannot be denied. If you are an adult and have the privileges, like driving and voting, you have duties too. There is no excuse for abuse.

If they deny their agency with excuses, they belong in an asylum because obviously, they cannot take care of themselves and present a danger to themselves and others. 

Repeated provocations are common so they have a legal defense. Report these people for provocation and watch them run for the hills. I’ll bet there’s a long list of people with similar complaints, seek them out and file together.

Don’t play parent, you are not responsible for such people. They are adults. They need to stop leaning on other people and check themselves into some therapy. If they refuse therapy, it’s just another ploy to keep control.

There is no such thing as Magically Disappearing Agency. It doesn’t fluctuate, it’s there or not. Either you are responsible for ALL of what you do, or you should be in State Custody, in therapy or prison.

I thought I’d post this quick one before I go.

Link: Subtle Sexual Abuse

Important point: The sex is the means of control.

http://www.hiddenhurt.co.uk/subtle_sexual_abuse.html

Now it’s easy to write something like this off as feminist screed or a shrill piece of victimhood propaganda because it comes at it from the common female angle. Not so.

This could often apply as well to men, and I’m certain it does.

However, since men are more socially proactive in dating and sexually initiative in ‘relationships’, this describes the first reason that men are more often found in this category, which is still Sexual Abuse.

I say ‘relationship’ because those are founded on trust among other things.

I’m likely to get hate or seem to spurn the male reader who might not like the implications of this (and claim it’s his natural right to act like an asshole without consequence) so let me put in a context you can easily understand. Imagine you, probably an average male, were being treated like this by a woman who is ugly on the outside as she is on the inside. Would you take issue with it?

Men often imagine female abusers as sexually alluring and that has nothing to do with it. A man has as much of a right to deny consent to a beautiful woman, a true 10, for no reason at all, as a woman would. No reason is required. No apology, either, although it might be polite based on the way one was approached (also politely).

Men often turn down beautiful women because of work (stress) or previous commitments (married) and as with the no reason point, there is no shame in these. Men aren’t constantly raring to go like 15 year-olds. I’ve seen heartless women try to pick up men at funerals.

I’m posting this because sexual abuse is rarely discussed in the context of adults (rather important) and because abusive men don’t like having limits imposed equally (since they are physically stronger and can force it, which some don’t ‘consider’ abuse).

“I killed him, but I didn’t consider it murder!”

If you hate the idea of marriage, you don’t deserve one

Let alone a happy one.

red dwarf useless insult condom machine vatican

And they expect the rest of us to convince them to leap in the gene pool?this is awkward

Who wants them there? They’re like a vegan at a steakhouse.

They’re like the new vegans. Rant rant rant rant rant – to the omnivores. They bore one another so must seek out the rest of us. I’ve even heard them try to argue against the Bible, because it tells you to marry repeatedly, but with God…

“Perfect love casteth out all fear.”1 John 4:18

As I noted briefly in Who do these guys think they are? there has been a new trend to start randomly pontificating at women on traditional matters by wholly modern men with no moral authority. An egregious example of this are the basement-dwelling losers with MGTOW somewhere in their screen-name who go on female issue websites and start bitching about us, to us, for attention. They aren’t even trolling, they’re probably retarded.

white male opinions do the creep

It’s quite literally mansplaining, quite by accident. A genetic suicide has no valid opinions on childrearing, male or female. Imagine if I kept blogging about how great it is to be a man, that isn’t even an opinion, it’s a delusion. A vegan has no valid opinions on the preparation of Thanksgiving turkey. It isn’t that they don’t have the right to an opinion, theoretically, but the basic conditions of merely having an opinion do not hold. They have no skin in the game. I don’t mind if they go off to their precious male-only spaces, please do go. But this new barrage of intrusion to the exact group (traditional women) you’re whining doesn’t exist? It makes all men look bad.

outgenepool

Nobody is going to tell people so actively hostile to a stable base to have kids. Even people on the fence with that stuff shouldn’t have kids. It’s the biggest of responsibilities. You can’t half-arse it. You need to go in expecting to do half the work, because there’ll be a lot more than you could ever expect, that’s called ‘parental investment’. Nobody is oppressing you, it’s the hardest job and has been for all time, whatever your sex. You’re never off the clock once you become a parent. It’s a 20 year to life investment, like a prison term, but these guys would balk at signing a two year employment contract. They are literally afraid of commitment, whatever the context. If you aren’t mature enough for that, fine, at least be mature enough not to brag about how childish you still are.

Here’s the inner monologue of everyone who hears these people;

You don’t want kids? Why should I care?
I am entirely neutral on this piece of information.

nothavingkids

Or worse;

You’re never having kids? Thank God.

The two main groups, the no-life teenage losers and on the shelf Boomers, feed one another in their hatred like a human centipede of misogynist shit (you know they think men are blameless innocent little victims on a pedestal for every count) and they wonder why they put off any sane women, to the extent they say there are no good women – sound familiar?

Bitterness is never attractive. The system isn’t against them, they could theoretically have a nuclear family. They don’t want to put in any work. They dream that a Patriarchy would just hand them a wife with no effort, like a slave driver. Since they cannot get a woman by persuasion. It’s Affirmative Action for boys who refuse to become men. Never in human history has marriage worked like that, the family unit cannot excel while one party is a user, what all abusers have in common. It’s an r-type scam, they cannot compete reproductively, so they’re trying to convince other men to simply give up. They’re jealous of Patriarchs. The future belongs to those who show up for it and that requires…?

All this complaining is convincing themselves that they don’t need to put in the work, because their dream is impossible.

Imagine a scrawny pajama boy bitching on a weightlifting forum about how weightlifting doesn’t work. You’d wanna wring the little bitch’s neck too.

A couple of choice examples I have read.

“Give a benefit of marriage/ traditionalism that I don’t have already then I will consider it”

This isn’t a business transaction. There aren’t spreadsheets to look over. Aspies are already at high odds of dying alone because they seem to think it’s a contract for their soul. There isn’t any guarantee in human relationships, in ties to people. Why are we wasting time listening to these losers when they can’t keep a girlfriend more than a matter of months? Why do you think women ask how long your longest relationship was? It’s to see if your pair bonding ability is broken.

“MGTOW is the new way.”

Cult alert. Cult alert. Cult alert.

If you go into a marriage cold, you deserve to get divorced.
If you think it’s you vs. them, it’s over. It’s dead. It was never a true bond. Monogamy is pair bonding. If you can’t pair bond, you are incapable of being monogamous. If you can’t pair bond with your chosen spouse, you are incapable of a marriage with them.
They don’t even like the idea of being loyal within a marriage, as if that isn’t the entire point. Their imaginary Ideal isn’t even good enough not to cheat on…
If you can’t trust the person you’re marrying, or trust any member of the opposite sex, you are barred from marriage. Oh, you might have the paperwork, for a wedding, but you don’t have a marriage. That takes work and dedication. If you’re busy thinking of the end before you have a beginning, if you go in without the love, the fault lies with you.
If you allow the failures of your sex to turn you bitter and cynical and jaded, you are no better than the lowliest feminist.
If you spend all your time telling people how much you don’t care about something, you may as well be a goth. At least they’re honest about it.

If you give up on women, that means you give up on talking to women online or discussing women’s issues online.

After all, it isn’t your problem, is it?

I think we have a decent test for fake MGTOW in that.