What MGTOW has become

I noticed the post about commitment phobes shot to the top spot. These entitled guys want all the services of a wife (like companionship) without the down payment. No woman will ever be your mother. MGTOW is becoming synonymous with the fear of women and fear of marriage (literal commitment phobia).

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MGTOW = Rejection + Projection
Social failure, genetic suicide.
Selfish and proud.
The ones who don’t want to breed are the ones who shouldn’t. Darwin wins.
They’re the human equivalent of pandas.

If they could step out the doorway and GO, as they threaten to, that would be great.

Literally every woman who is ‘wife material’ will be thinking this;

Reject yourselves so we don’t have to, fantastic.

Note:

fear of women already has a name.

Gynophobia or gynephobia is an abnormal fear of women, a type of specific social phobia.

Remember that next time they blame their social anxiety.

If you hate the idea of marriage, you don’t deserve one

Let alone a happy one.

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And they expect the rest of us to convince them to leap in the gene pool?this is awkward

Who wants them there? They’re like a vegan at a steakhouse.

They’re like the new vegans. Rant rant rant rant rant – to the omnivores. They bore one another so must seek out the rest of us. I’ve even heard them try to argue against the Bible, because it tells you to marry repeatedly, but with God…

“Perfect love casteth out all fear.”1 John 4:18

As I noted briefly in Who do these guys think they are? there has been a new trend to start randomly pontificating at women on traditional matters by wholly modern men with no moral authority. An egregious example of this are the basement-dwelling losers with MGTOW somewhere in their screen-name who go on female issue websites and start bitching about us, to us, for attention. They aren’t even trolling, they’re probably retarded.

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It’s quite literally mansplaining, quite by accident. A genetic suicide has no valid opinions on childrearing, male or female. Imagine if I kept blogging about how great it is to be a man, that isn’t even an opinion, it’s a delusion. A vegan has no valid opinions on the preparation of Thanksgiving turkey. It isn’t that they don’t have the right to an opinion, theoretically, but the basic conditions of merely having an opinion do not hold. They have no skin in the game. I don’t mind if they go off to their precious male-only spaces, please do go. But this new barrage of intrusion to the exact group (traditional women) you’re whining doesn’t exist? It makes all men look bad.

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Nobody is going to tell people so actively hostile to a stable base to have kids. Even people on the fence with that stuff shouldn’t have kids. It’s the biggest of responsibilities. You can’t half-arse it. You need to go in expecting to do half the work, because there’ll be a lot more than you could ever expect, that’s called ‘parental investment’. Nobody is oppressing you, it’s the hardest job and has been for all time, whatever your sex. You’re never off the clock once you become a parent. It’s a 20 year to life investment, like a prison term, but these guys would balk at signing a two year employment contract. They are literally afraid of commitment, whatever the context. If you aren’t mature enough for that, fine, at least be mature enough not to brag about how childish you still are.

Here’s the inner monologue of everyone who hears these people;

You don’t want kids? Why should I care?
I am entirely neutral on this piece of information.

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Or worse;

You’re never having kids? Thank God.

The two main groups, the no-life teenage losers and on the shelf Boomers, feed one another in their hatred like a human centipede of misogynist shit (you know they think men are blameless innocent little victims on a pedestal for every count) and they wonder why they put off any sane women, to the extent they say there are no good women – sound familiar?

Bitterness is never attractive. The system isn’t against them, they could theoretically have a nuclear family. They don’t want to put in any work. They dream that a Patriarchy would just hand them a wife with no effort, like a slave driver. Since they cannot get a woman by persuasion. It’s Affirmative Action for boys who refuse to become men. Never in human history has marriage worked like that, the family unit cannot excel while one party is a user, what all abusers have in common. It’s an r-type scam, they cannot compete reproductively, so they’re trying to convince other men to simply give up. They’re jealous of Patriarchs. The future belongs to those who show up for it and that requires…?

All this complaining is convincing themselves that they don’t need to put in the work, because their dream is impossible.

Imagine a scrawny pajama boy bitching on a weightlifting forum about how weightlifting doesn’t work. You’d wanna wring the little bitch’s neck too.

A couple of choice examples I have read.

“Give a benefit of marriage/ traditionalism that I don’t have already then I will consider it”

This isn’t a business transaction. There aren’t spreadsheets to look over. Aspies are already at high odds of dying alone because they seem to think it’s a contract for their soul. There isn’t any guarantee in human relationships, in ties to people. Why are we wasting time listening to these losers when they can’t keep a girlfriend more than a matter of months? Why do you think women ask how long your longest relationship was? It’s to see if your pair bonding ability is broken.

“MGTOW is the new way.”

Cult alert. Cult alert. Cult alert.

If you go into a marriage cold, you deserve to get divorced.
If you think it’s you vs. them, it’s over. It’s dead. It was never a true bond. Monogamy is pair bonding. If you can’t pair bond, you are incapable of being monogamous. If you can’t pair bond with your chosen spouse, you are incapable of a marriage with them.
They don’t even like the idea of being loyal within a marriage, as if that isn’t the entire point. Their imaginary Ideal isn’t even good enough not to cheat on…
If you can’t trust the person you’re marrying, or trust any member of the opposite sex, you are barred from marriage. Oh, you might have the paperwork, for a wedding, but you don’t have a marriage. That takes work and dedication. If you’re busy thinking of the end before you have a beginning, if you go in without the love, the fault lies with you.
If you allow the failures of your sex to turn you bitter and cynical and jaded, you are no better than the lowliest feminist.
If you spend all your time telling people how much you don’t care about something, you may as well be a goth. At least they’re honest about it.

If you give up on women, that means you give up on talking to women online or discussing women’s issues online.

After all, it isn’t your problem, is it?

I think we have a decent test for fake MGTOW in that.

Link: Natural law, natural consequences, natural punishment

Government is supporting stupidity. We are reaching the Idiocracy event horizon.

http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/the-principle-of-natural-consequences/17175

For breaking the natural law, there are natural penalties.  Those who live by knives die by them. Those who betray their friends lose them.  Those who abandon their children never know the sweetness of their kiss.  Those who travel from bed to bed lose the capacity for trust.  Those who torture their consciences are tortured by them in return.  Those who refuse the one in whose image they are made live as strangers to themselves.

This principle of natural consequences is woven into the fabric of our nature.  Not all our defiance can unravel a single stitch.  Some penalties show up within the lifetime of the individual; others may tarry until several generations have persisted in the same wrongdoing.  But the penalties are cumulative, and eventually they can no longer be ignored.

A good example of such further penalties can be found in the consequences of breaking the precept of chastity…

Video: Giving back to society?!?!?!?

Lestat laughter lol lmao haha IWTV film

If you give it to the State, it will waste it. On people who hate you. Your enemies.

Give on a personal level, to people who proved worthy. Smart people. People who do the right thing. Conservatives and libertarians. But you don’t owe them. Or it isn’t charity, it’s a contract. Did you sign a contract? Is your life in debt to Satan or something? Would society let you suffer and die, if you had failed? [yes] When did they help you? Are you still paying national debt, escalating? Is the public sector supporting child abuse still taking your taxes?

That impulse to give is misdirected to the outgroup. It evolved to give back to the FAMILY.

FAMILY ONLY.

Video: Black men don’t owe black women shit

Well-informed guy.

This stuff trickles down to middle class whites (scale of oppression narrative). If anything, middle class people are afraid of commitment (literal fear) because of their ‘career’ or how they want to ‘travel’ or need to ‘find myself’ or some other BS. It’s all lies. It’s all one big excuse. Means “I don’t want to choose” (commitment phobia in a nutshell).

You wanted to be independent, now the men want independence too – from you. They’re saying ‘we’re not gonna wait on you’ (chivalry) and later, ‘we’re not gonna wait for you’ (when you’re past it, the peak). They don’t want to be second choice, good on them.

 

Link: Against ‘Against Autism Cures’

http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/10/12/against-against-autism-cures/

There are many fakes claiming mental illness then failing to need anything on the illness front. If you aren’t in need of medical attention, you aren’t ill and society should revoke your perks. Overdiagnosis aside, it’s becoming an absurdly common excuse to avoid anything they dislike. It’s like the conflation of irritation, annoyance and offence. Autism is one of those overly broad categories that shouldn’t be used anymore because it contains the entire spectrum (no not that one) of mild conditions, probably personality quirks or lack of skills, the proper illnesses that need a treatment plan but can get along and then the extreme cases, which cannot live or function in society and used to be killed on the quiet. Giving all those groups the same banner seems insane to me.

At least now we know the brain is part of the immune system, the true work can begin.

It’s an illness we cannot examine from the outside, because we have no idea what their inner world is like. All attempts have shown it up to be completely different to regular people, sometimes in a positive way (although you don’t have to be autistic to be a savant) but usually in the exact closed-off way that they cannot be reached. It would seem unfair to hold those people to arbitrary standards of psychiatric norm.

They’ve spent years trying to raise kids who were violent, self-injurious, locked in a sensory hell without the ability to explain their problems verbally, and maybe having seizures all the time to boot. Their decision to institutionalize is a reluctant concession to this reality.

It was one of the early arguments for abortion, that with certain conditions they would suffer too much in life. It’s kinda like a social locked-in syndrome. And the people who go on about ALL mental illness being faked/the psychiatry Scientology conspiracy, have never met them.

And maybe the best option is that somebody develops technology that can change your brain type during adulthood, so that everyone has the option of experiencing life as an autistic person and as a neurotypical person and seeing which is best for them. Invent something like that and the problem disappears.

Turning nerd for a moment that sounds to me like a mobile TMS unit.

And a lot depends on the genetic structure of autism. If autism is just the brain’s response to high mutational load, then trying to do most other good things will prevent autism as a side effect. On the other hand, if autism is the extreme version of a trait whose common version is “good at logical and scientific thinking”, then we have to ask ourselves whether that trait is worth messing with. As usual, everything about genetic engineering raises thorny scientific and ethical quandaries, and I can only hope we don’t drag our feet in creating the eight-foot-tall IQ 300 supermen who can solve them.

Good for individual vs. society. Could be the personality is just another layer on top of normality like high Mach sociopaths and the extreme cases only seem to mimic the personality since they’re restricted in other ways. Ironically, in a world cured of autism, nobody would be capable of answering such a conceptual question. Science would probably die.

The most disturbing part is that they don’t want the support of illness, but they want societal goodies and freebies for being ill. Seems like a con. Are you special? Are you normal? Which is it?

The mysterious rise of Anxiety ‘Disorders’ and SJW ‘trigger’ warnings and…

the link to sexual arousal.

I’m calling it. I’m predicting they’ll find connections.

http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&id=1983-09491-001

There are many studies that reinforce this link because it’s based in the nervous system.

Just google away “anxiety arousal studies” or some such.

In an age of almost-constant internet porn access, many of those same boys are also reporting the BS condition known as ‘Social Anxiety’ AKA being too lazy to learn social skills because you’re wasting away behind a screen. Even autistics can learn them, these boys (supposedly above-average IQ) have no excuse. Everyone has to learn social skills. Everyone, at some point (for some, too young to remember). There are specialist therapists and social coaches. Sociopaths can’t physically process social information and even they can fake it convincingly. There is no excuse whatsoever.

We also see a rise in other ‘anxieties’ like GAD or ‘Generalized Anxiety Disorder’ – meaning they are ‘triggered’ by nothing in particular. It’s BS. It’s an excuse to get out of situations they dislike (quite common in the teen years) by threatening to sue for psychological distress. You can’t falsify it and practically everyone not currently in a coma would qualify. Don’t like waiting in line at the Post Office? Accommodate my GAD and let me skip the line. Your spouse is nagging you about taking out the trash? I have GAD, stop making it flare up. Want to leave a boring work social function? Sorry boss, it’s my GAD again, bye!

It’s become de rigeur in psychiatric circles to qualify the NORMAL, NATURAL Fight or Flight response as something traumatic or broken. The prescriptions are expensive. Think of how many spoiled suburbanite Princesses suddenly have frequent ‘panic attacks’ but no physiological or cardiac tests to prove it (compulsory to rule out deadly abnormalities and Sudden Adult Death). They usually self-diagnose online like they have Munchausen’s. It happens solely when things aren’t going their way and otherwise they’d burst into crocodile tears. There’s no other pattern. What a coincidence….

Think of the rush these SJWs feel when they ruin someone’s life or call them a hateful shitlord bigot (or regular male trolls). Imagine it. The surge of power. I bet you could see the endorphins in their bloodstream. The way they can exercise their almost OCPD (real condition) control freak tendencies by policing other people’s very speech. Better than some historical kings, and we all know they could go mad or get drunk on power.

What about hate-reading? Why do they do that? It isn’t about fear or anxiety per se as it is about the nervous system arousal. It’s like hate porn to them. They get off on it. They’re so twisted by reading things they agree with (dogma) that they must seek out the edgy, the obscure and… well, probably some of my stuff, actually, to get the same dopamine fix. A type of internet addiction, really.

This is behind what a lot of older generations don’t get.

Why are kids such pushovers nowadays? – You let them be.

Why do they seek out offensive things to them? – Anger is almost indistinguishable from sexual arousal.

Why is nothing ever easy for them? – They want excuses.

If you teach a postmodern child in a pointless dreary education system these two options, 1. try and get a trophy every time (but so does everyone else) or 2. make an excuse not to try by being special somehow and get attention as if you won (from Helicopter Parents), the laziest children will always tend toward Door Number 2. 

Contrary to popular belief, sorry appears to be the magic word

I know some of you’re gonna hate me for this but yeah.
We’re trying to red pill ourselves and that de-conditioning is seldom pleasant. I don’t like it either.
It relates to the Expectation Bubble post.