MGTOW is the “child-free” choice for men

SJWs: anti-natal, never have kids, distrust all men.

MGTOW: anti-natal, never have kids, distrust all women.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/06/mailvox-its-only-fair.html

Fine by me, fine by all of us actually. Does the future really need your mediocre DNA?

Like, okay, you can leave the race, standing around talking about it isn’t leaving, is it?

MGTOW never actually GOES.

They clog up VD’s comment sections among others (including women’s websites???!) and think we all miss them.

Nope.

In fact, standing around stomping your feet like a horny emotional toddler just shows everyone why women are totally missing out on those fine specimens of manhood.

We notice we’re happier when you’re not standing around, whining.

Basically their standard they complain women should accept is:  …be male, …be 18+.

That’s it.

Even the job of waiting tables requires more than that, let alone husband/father.

That’s a job. Sitting around getting a pregnancy belly with estrogenic beer addiction is not a skill.

Where did the filters go?

Men used to hold one another accountable. Historically, rites of passage, if failed, resulted in death or being disinherited, minimum. I bet they also expect the wife to be in two places at once like I Dream of Jeannie: simultaneously a stay at home mother (all alone, with time to do no chores, including shower) but also at work, earning money to contribute to the household (I thought you wanted gender roles, tho?)… without touching on the ones who wanted a replacement Mommy figure they can fuck. Those atheists don’t want marriage.

You fucked yourselves into a corner, you can stay fucked.

Most of the divorces they bitch about are RE-MARRIAGES. Thereby, MOOT.

Why would women choose you? This isn’t Pokemon. They can prefer nothing.

If nothing is better than you, you fucked up.

Apparently, guys that go on about market forces, can’t apply supply/demand to the quality of woman they attract.

It’s like straight men calling any barely financially stable (as a singleton) non-prison male a man and worse, a 10.

Your standards used to be higher, especially in the West.

You used to have standards.

Most men cannot be 10s, it’s statistically impossible.

And a ten is like, a 6ft broad manly man. Sexual dimorphism, genetic, not a shitty obedient worker drone CV. Not “I have a degree in engineering so all the supermodel babes must wanna bone me” – every Indian off the boat thinks that.

White women aren’t attracted to your degree. A guy who wants a promotion has less time to be a parent and husband. If you’re effectively raising the kids alone, you’re a single parent, sponsorship like a kept woman or not.

IQ typical range by occupation:

The middling intellect of detectives is very reassuring.

Engineering -related occs, other tops out at 120. Is that fucking it? Social workers and clergy do better!

EEs – 128, TOPS. There are EEs below 100 AVERAGE.

You want your house wired up by a guy who isn’t even AVERAGE in IQ, right?

If we have any labelling system, forcing people to wear their Binet adult IQ visibly would be very instrumental in improving dialogue on real issues.

For one, this guy talks about ‘unicorns’…. like he deserves one.

Like, they wouldn’t reject him? For a male unicorn?

A man that doesn’t fuck around with strippers and catch herpes, as many of these MGTOWs actually do?

If you want to stop being fucked around by women, stop fucking with women.

They’re the sexual equivalent of vegans at a BBQ. You turned up?

This coffin-dodger (I was MGTOW decades before it was cool rant) well past middle age (late 30s for men) is bitching and bitter like anyone can save him. You made your cold, empty bed. Where are the bad girls now? Are good girls still boring?

So, young men need help recognizing the qualities of a unicorn, and also they need help developing the qualities of leadership that you point out are necessary to maintaining a healthy relationship with a woman.

If you’re old enough to ask this (13+) you’ve already missed out on the critical development needed.

He’s trying desperately to convince himself he didn’t throw away his life. And that young men are really dumb, like him.

They talk about women like running a naval fleet. This is not the SS Pussy.

It isn’t like ‘maintaining’ a car.

We’re also not aliens. If you wanna talk to a forum of men before your wife, you’re an insecure little bitch.

If you don’t know a good woman when you see it, that is Nature selecting your low IQ from the gene pool. There are no bad girls – there are women (sociopaths, borderlines, narcissists) using men because they hate them. The good girls they mock as things like frigid or boring are ironically the women they end up figuring out they needed all along, too fucking bad!

Even Don in Mad Men ended up divorcing from perfect blonde housewife. At what point is the man at fault?

You can’t develop leadership, it’s genetic fitness. Pick-up is a scam. They rarely marry and often have multiple marriages because their shit doesn’t work long-term. And manipulation over years sounds both exhausting and unhealthy. Who TF wants that?

Their agency is all over the place about what WOMEN do.

Women are not the pro-active sex, improve YOURSELF.

If you built it….

They do not love, they’re incapable of it – they cannot discern good from bad because they’re rotten fruit. They feel the need to parody emotion, even after marriage. Heartless.

I think

If you had such valuable opinions you’d have found one woman to tolerate you.

if you provided a positive message toward that end, you would help the cause of promoting the survival of western civilization more effectively than just calling people names.

Tell them about paternal age studies. There is no positive message, this isn’t fucking Barney.

Stop letting old men reproduce and make retarded kids the rest of us have to pay for. That plus the stillbirths and miscarriages thanks to old men who waited too long.

You are not entitled to have kids.

This isn’t AA for bachelors.

Western Civilization was fine when the losers weren’t allowed to breed. If you want a Christian family culture in law, only the first marriage counts. As narcissists, they actually think Western Civ cannot go on without them, when it’s actually better off?

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MGTOW: I will date and have sex with women I have no intention of marrying.

MGTOW: Why are all women bitches and sluts? Where do I find a unicorn?

That’s it, that’s the lunacy.

“I can be a slut but, magically, not tamper with the fresh meat I want after”

It takes two though. There’s no Have it All – for women or for men.

Magical thinking is a sign of insanity. Unicorns, LOL.

You want your cake, don’t eat it!

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That dude wants an advice column, here’s an advice column that he won’t follow. Stop doing these things for 6 months and get back to us for your next steps:

1. Stop watching porn, this includes things like strip clubs and prostitutes.

2. Stop doing drugs.

3. Stop over consuming alcohol.

4. Stop over consuming food, especially sugary food.

5. Stop drinking soda.

6. Stop wasting time on the internet, this means no more forums with losers, all MGTOW hangouts, no more social media, etc.

7. Stop playing video games.

8. Stop lying about what kind of a girl you deserve, if your combination of looks, social savvy and income rates you a 3, then you can only date 3’s. There’s no “unicorn” out there who wants to date an ugly guy with no social savvy who’s broke.

9. Stop making excuses for your life by calling it things like MGTOW.

Follow those 9 steps EXACTLY 100% for 6 months and get back to us. Of course if you follow those 9 steps exactly then you won’t have to get back to us.

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The answer to the respondent is simple. There are no perfect people, and any search for a perfect woman will fail. Worse, were the perfect woman to exist, the searcher would not be worthy of her.

nah he wants a whore with a heart of gold

because those exist

… Which means that mating that focuses in superficiality and insincerity will result in superficial and insincere relationships. Which in turn means that a man should not engage in courtship that appears serious until he really is serious and sincere…..

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These threads really bring out the gammas. Now one is telling Vox how to act on his own blog.

Zero mystery why women despise you all.

They mansplain to other men too, it’s a gamma phenomena.

“I know how to run your life/blog/marriage better than you”

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….those that are, are snapped up by all the Betas and Alphas, leaving very little for the Deltas.

Unlike, what other time period in history?

You’re not entitled to a superior waifu.

SEE? Their problem is they hate other men.

Why Rowling won’t run

Sick ’em, Jimbo.
I wouldn’t even rape a pedo apologist.

>Guy supports child sexuality because liberal.

>Muh moral relativism. Age of consent makes it legal therefore moral.

>Muh children, minors can consent to homosex as long as the rapist isn’t Muslim.

>Refuses to back down. Makes it worse. Reees openly.

>Appeal to history. Fake history.

>Muh ancient greek pederasty was common, normal and moral and totally not sex slave rape.

>Still hates being white. Black grandpa thing was true until a joke, guys, Schrodinger’s joke.

>Guys pedos make modern civilization because pedo teachers existed in Greece.

>Oddly okay with ancient low-class boy rape but previously raged for virtue signalling points against rape of modern girls, can we count malicious sexism or is this ignorance?

>As if to prove he hates females too, threatens potential colleagues in politics. Somehow, failed to shout FIRE in a theatre because free speech.

>Thinks COD-tier threatening rape or incitement of rape of a public official is professional or legal behaviour.

>Doesn’t get arrested despite claiming oppression as white male who can’t make a joke without getting arrested.

>Claims MSM are dead and he has more views. Goes on TV anyway.

>Stays in politics, thinking he’s being misquoted for things he affirmed later.

>Continues to imply he rapes white women and hates Little Englanders.

.>Wonders why social conservatives vote nuh.

>ZERO seats.

Yes, you are so oppressed. You poor, fragile broflake.

SLMs out.  Smug Liberal Men, move to Thailand where your superior intellect can be appreciated.

Ting Tong says you’re a real man because you feel so tight with her vaginal shrinkage cream.
She’s a traditional woman, fucking your brains out as a LBFM before marriage.
So trad, she wants a green card to America, away from her culture and family.

After all, she does anal like a good Christian girl and the ironing. Reddit is full of surprised soyboys who didn’t realize they married whores abroad. It’s like a Cinderella story where the happy ending involves syphilis.

But if all the race traitors move to Asia, who’ll vote for Sargon?

You can listen to Carl Benji smuckle through an audiobook of Machiavelli’s Prince. That exists.

Plenty of low IQ men claim to have read the classics, too dumb to know they can’t understand it.

Rule 1a of 21st century politics.

MINORS AREN’T SEXUAL.

I’m not explaining this.

Hollywood actors refuse to play pedos.

1b – rape is not sex, see 1a for clarification.

Rule 2

Women are people, as human as you and over half the voting, tax-paying population.

Do not fuck with us. -maths

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Icelandic_women%27s_strike

Deadbeats on welfare do not get to complain about spinsters bankrolling their bastards and STD shots.

It makes more sense for poor white women than bitter angry men, doesn’t it? Multicultural gang of low IQ men lecturing rich man is still ….all male. Where’s the rebellion? Half the working class are female so it can’t be that, can’t be classism. Emma Watson cares more about Africans than whether I live or die.

So what did poor white women ever do for poor white men?

Women grow you and give you life. Women feed you, women clothe you. Women nurture and support you.
DO NOT. FUCK WITH US.

We determine your genetic future. God’s wisdom, that.

Even if you ban rape abortions, we’ve used herbs for that for millennia and there’s always stairs. They seem to think it’s okay for a rapist to punch a pregnant victim and kill the kid that way, but the mother can’t choose it herself.

Related: no, rapists have zero paternal ‘rights’.

Women are not magical nurturing baby holes. We don’t love every baby on the planet, especially the product of incest, sexual terrorism or other trauma. This isn’t shitting Disney.

The tits don’t make us wanna adore everything that could feasibly suck on them.

The same as a male human would resent a child of his own rape, so too do women.

Men fear prison mostly because half the rape equation could happen to them, minus pregnancy.

You want a white society? What’s 52% of that?
White women.
You know what we’re sick of?
Being threatened with rape. For existing.

For being female and being white.

Kthnxbai.

I don’t see big strong masculine white man Sargon threatening non-white MPs with his freedumb of speech.

The backbone of this country is not the middle-class cuntry on twitter.
It’s the men and women working and quietly paying for their degeneracy. And we’re upset.

The gender wars are a middle-class delusion. We recognise national, cultural traitors, class traitors and race traitors.

“Being a bitch” is the new Liberal Left’s “Punch a Nazi”.

Spoken like a true Cultural Marxist. Because you can just stop people from owning anything by wishing really hard (quoted wanted this to happen, in context).

Do you think I want to fund the immigrant men on my street?

I’d adore the option not to pay taxes, as would anyone going Galt.

Then there’s the obvious…

Think of how many votes I can buy with my tax money!

Those anti-natal, anti-white people are against white women too? Really?

Almost like they’re the actual biological future of Europe. Whereas the (secretly brown, online) misogynists who, astonishingly, cannot attract 1 woman (ONE) out of billions to live and breed with them by choice have a high rate of suicide. It’s amazing how many pro-eugenics ones there are too.

Kinda like when you move to a nation with a significantly higher average IQ, suddenly your solid 82, that served you so well in Cuckistan, isn’t so hot to the local ladies.

Claim: Africans have a lower average IQ than Europeans.

MGTOW: fine, duh

Claim: Africans commit more crime than others.

MGTOW: fine, duh

Claim: Women have a higher average IQ than men.

MGTOW: OMFG SEXIST CUNT EINSTEIN WAS MALE

Also MGTOW: I believe in meritocracy. It’s logical.

Fact: women do better in school across the board, taking blinded exams, especially in all-girl schools.

MGTOW: MAKE ME A SANDWICH, WHITE WHORE.

Claim: Women do better in maths exams until their menarche, then never catch up.

MGTOW: WOMEN CAN’T DO MATHS BUT BOYS DON’T TRY IN CLASS AT GCSE BECAUSE THEIR TEACHER IS A FEMOID.

Claim: Men commit most violent crime, especially rape.

MGTOW: SJW BITCH I’M GONNA FIND YOU AND RAPE YOU TO PROVE HOW WRONG YOU ARE, WOMEN MUST RESPECT MEN FOR EXISTING AS ALWAYS HAPPENED HISTORICALLY UNTIL JAN 1ST, 1960.

Misogynists are not red-pilled.

They hate women but especially white women. Huh…. That is not the natural instinct of genophilia of a white man. Most telling, they do not allow criticism of Asian males. Especially the really brown, ugly, fat and smelly ones. But they are totally Aryan, fellow white! Just kill all your women for the ethnostate!!!

Test: go on a MGTOW forum and complain that all the ugly Asian men smell of curry on the train.

All white men agree with this. The MGTOW forum goers claim to be white. Watch their reaction.

As for the white bitching fake MGTOW… blaming their parent’s divorce for why they hate women twenty years later?

Like, sure, if I made you, I’d get divorced too.

But there’s another 50% to that equation, mate.

The ones who fell for rare Pokeballs of SJW trolling hook, line and sinker? e.g. fragile masculinity.

Ignore the class aspect of the so-called gender wars, it isn’t like middle-classed men with every advantage (inc. money) losing out to working-class men who don’t cheat and do a real job is some kind of… sexual selection, is it?

Muh Darwin, fellow intellectuals. Muh Darwin.

Rule 3 (of 3)

Do not join the only party at the time that opposed rape gangs and think rape (especially of innocents) isn’t degenerate. Furthermore, do not treat one of the most intimate violations of property rights as a joke, as a supposed libertarian.

Seriously, I would not be shocked if it came out Roosh had been mentoring him on maintaining alpha male frame.

Sargon has become, by choice, the posterboy of mansplaining.

See, when he said those things, he only meant them in proportion to your agreement.

Mansplaining is, at its core, a very specific thing. It’s what occurs when a man talks condescendingly to someone (especially a woman) about something he has incomplete knowledge of, with the mistaken assumption that he knows more about it than the person he’s talking to does.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/mansplaining-definition-history

So a male ignoramus can mansplain to a better-educated man. It’s a form of pseudointellectual pride.

Kinda like if someone said, to paraphrase:

“You don’t understand what I meant by the word pederasty, let me explain it to you”.

and look, ironically, like a complete cunt.

It’s the sin of atheistkult, if you will. Nobody else does this (in practice).

Petition to force Sargon to join anti-fa?

The rape thing was just satire, bro. And the other rape thing. And the other other rape thing too.

If you try to hold a man accountable, it’s just free speech and you’re a sexist bigot.

And we all know that rape victims love joking about it. Big brained wigger optics there.

Video: The 9 traits of the borderline personality

Male or female.

The instability (emotional) is the BIG one.

Much like a psychopath, they cannot hold down a (healthy) relationship. Bonds between a couple must be stable.

However, like a codependent, they feel they’re nothing without someone, ANYONE.

Stop and start. Stop and start. Lots of small connections, one night stands.

The typical one night stand (m/f) has a far higher chance of being borderline.

Lashing out at anyone rejecting them, however trivial.

Yep, the angry phone number guys. The occasional woman who gets angry if a random man doesn’t want to fuck her. The entitlement.

Borderlines DO NOT DO rejection. It’s a main trigger.

They have no self to fall back on. Obsessed with self-improvement, no identity though. Constantly trying new things that never seem to work out (think Madonna’s looks). Lots of “bad luck” with the opposite sex. Tendency to idolize others, have idols, especially online. They gain a sense of self via this Other. The stans who can delude themselves into stalking, harassing or raping their idol, dangerous people. A courtship disorder is possible or simple limerence at a distance. Feeling a sense of ownership, viewing other humans as objects or property.

Vengeful, rage tantrums, can attempt to justify abuse with some imagined or minor slight.

You provoked me” or “you made me hurt you” or “why can’t you behave”?

That would be the classic “bunny boiler” or “disturbed young man” type.

It’s common to hear, “I own you” …. they actually think this.

Both are big on gaslighting so can be confused with a narcissist, which actually isn’t (usually) as bad.

It’s the men who ask to an abused woman “what did you do to make him hit you”?

Classic BPD, sick bastards. They never man up, nothing is ever their personal fault, even the actions of their own body don’t feel like they belong to them. When they picture themselves as the man (issues with empathy for the opposite sex), they assume the man was never at fault, even if he threatened murder.

They will FIND an excuse to hurt.

“I’m the real victim here”, as the other party is bleeding and traumatized in the corner.

They can seem glib like the psychopath or narcissist and can be at times grandiose with narc features. However, it’s an act, usually in response to attention. It’s fake. Their come-down is when this reality hits them again, which can look bipolar. They claim to be depressed when they don’t want to do something, a lot of small compulsive lies.

A rollercoaster of emotional bullshit. Like psychopaths, they deny their own condition but ALSO spread outright lies about it (we’re nice really, we’re the real victim, we suffer,  pity us, you can fix us etc).

The logical reply is “wait, if you don’t have it, how do you know so much about it?”

This makes them angry. You wouldn’t like them when they’re angry (they can intimidate by threatening this “loss” of temper, which is a deliberate choice to abuse). Adults don’t lose their temper, toddlers do, because toddlers are still developing the brain areas to control it.

Anger isn’t really an emotion, it’s an impulse. They have issues, emotion is quite healthy but being angry all the time is bad for your body. The Bobo dolls study and others show feeding anger makes it stronger and more frequent. “Let it all out” applies to tears, not physical abuse. Angry people get an endorphin rush, abusers enjoy abusing.

Like the psychopath, they study a lot online of how normal people think. They can quote forum posts to act normal or pass for intelligent, to lure in victims. It’s vapid trivia masquerading as knowledge.

A dichotomous view of life that is too shallow to withstand scrutiny.

e.g. all men are rapists/assholes v. all women are whores/crazy.

The common denominator there….

See, they find it helpful to define themselves in terms of what they’re not.

They deny their Shadow Self and project it, it’s stereotypical they claim they’re incapable of that Evil Terrible Terrible Thing. But the Enemy is FULL of it, to bursting! It’s so obvious!

Race they belong to generally but self-loathing can present if encouraged.

Sexism is far more common because of parental issues.

So it’s the misogynist who says

“I’m not sexist, I just don’t trust or believe or respect women.

OR

For balance, the misandrist who says

“I’m not sexist, I just don’t like or rely on or hang around men.”

It can present in so many ways but they’re blind to it, having projected it far, far away from what they believe is physically possible.

Anyone who thinks it’s impossible to be sexist personally, ever, at any point, is living in a bubble. Prejudices exist in all humans.

Being suspicious of all women is dodgy, being suspicious of a seductive woman, taking a sudden, keen interest in you, as warned in the Bible, is common sense.

Being distrustful of all men is off, being distrustful of a man who is insincere and keeps pushing boundaries is survival instinct.

Sexists are just lazy. Within a race, there are too many personal similarities to claim a broad genetic danger.

The psychotic thing is obvious.

“The world hates women” and “The world hates men”.

Obvious bullshit, there’s moderate but clear evidence on both sides (balance) so neither sweeping statement is true. It’s another excuse. Not to try, to abuse the “enemy” group, to get perceived revenge yada yada.

It’s actually:

The world hates (substitute for Self) so I am morally allowed to (do terrible, evil thing).

Like the #KillAllMen or Elliot murder spree fans.

It’s a selfish Crusaderism. If they clashed with that group, say SJW women to anti-SJW women, they’d hate that supposed group they claim to care about, the most of all. Thatcher gets the most hatred of any dead politician because she was a woman. In a sickening display, they got the radio to play “ding dong the witch is dead” on news of her demise. The working class loved her so the Left despise her. Great men and geniuses are envied most by omegas, they plot to literally kill people, other men are just last. It’s like Marx leeching off of Engels, a man who owned means of production. Marx lived off the blood of the worker happily.

These people are dangerous and abusive.
You love the sinner and punish the saint, you are evil. Defending deviants, rapists (of m/f), whatever it is specifically. This is not First World culture. This is childish and bitter. This is anti-justice.

“We’ll show them” they plot.

The world was right to reject them, really. That’s all they showed.

America’s stop hitting yourself

The logic seems to be: Women can’t oppress me, if I oppress them first. How is that going away? The lampreys on MGTOW have utterly ruined it. Who actually supports rapists and murderers without mental issues themselves?

The characteristic of revenge fantasies is that they never actually work.

Logically, if they did keep all 100% of women under male control, all women would be able to renounce all forms of legal responsibility to the man in charge of them. It used to be that way in some places that if women ran up massive credit debt, her husband would be automatically expected to pay. If a woman broke the law, her husband would be expected to provide her alibi or, sometimes, be blamed for forcing her to do it – and be punished in her place. You really want total responsibilities over all those idiotic messes? REALLY. Even SJWs don’t want to be held accountable for what men do. They also want women controlled for life but believe women have expiry dates… need I mention how impractical that is? You can’t drop a responsibility. This is like the people who take a commitment (e.g. marriage) then complain it’s limiting…. The men against marriage would be forcing themselves into a de facto marriage of statistically older (longer lifespan) women. They also wouldn’t be getting sex either, consent still exists. Plus they’d have a recession economy, since half the workforce is gone and never has to work again (sounds nice).

Many of their economic woes are caused by globalization.

They blame the West instead of the East. That is irrational. The propaganda is about the West because it isn’t the West, we were doing well until the rise of Asia stealing our production and student places (most women in top Western universities are Asian, in on forged transcripts, they never mention this).

Mostly, it’s immigration.

If you showed the happy 50s husband the MGTOW posts online they’d probably tell you it was a mental problem. It does share similarities with borderline personality (assuming all people hate you, insecurity, flashy purchases, assuming all people will take things from you and abandon you eventually, feeling out of place).

Hating women (okay, distrusting is visible) so much they deny their own gender role (and thus, power).

from their own files


Do they cut off their nose to spite their face, or their dick to spite SJWs?

You don’t want to pay income tax but want women to pay it?

You don’t want to pay child support but expect mothers to live off air?

You don’t want to fund schools if you don’t have children (that one is fair).

You don’t want men to protect women but refuse the death penalty for the worst criminals? How else do we get rid of them?

You want socialism (the Pill, abortions, STD shots) without the pricetag, seriously? Why not crawl back into your mother’s womb at this point? You don’t want to be an adult. If disabled people can be responsible and productive, what’s your excuse?

Apparently being our gender role oppressed them first. Somehow. Women oppressed them by needing to be provided for, due to the choice to be the baby-carrying and physically weaker sex. Because we choose those, we choose our sex apparently and fuck Darwin, “man up” is apparently hate speech.

Asking an adult male to act like a responsible man is now “sexism”, according to these guys.

(Why do you think a man cannot be a responsible adult without being married ? HMMM?)

Are your parents pushing you to get married? Diddums, you think that doesn’t happen to women?

Are your parents pushing you to have kids? That one REALLY happens more to women. By an order of magnitude.

Is nobody allowed to criticize baby, for fearing he feel SHAME?

Why can’t we shame men who deserve it? They shame women all the time. Shame is good. It makes people question immorality.

If you’re so immoral that shame works, that’s called a conscience and you should listen to it.

Because funding the mother of your children is evil but foisting them on an expensive nanny is good parenting. Studies be damned.

Can I point out the obvious?

If men don’t want to be men – that might explain why women don’t want them.

If we wanted girly men, we’d be lesbians?

A man is not his car or cologne, that would be sexist and dehumanizing. Replacing dignity and masculinity with material possessions and arrogant bragging just puts women off. The good women. Brands are telling you you need to buy stuff to impress women. Is money all they have to offer as a person? How did that work before credit cards?

Oh yeah, men gave the one thing women couldn’t provide for themselves. Men were manly.

If you want to be a metrosexual man, fine. You can’t change biology to make women get the hots for it. This is like fat acceptance but for pajama boys.

“Why can’t the woman pay me paternity leave?”

Because you didn’t give birth. If you gave birth, one day, we’d support you 100%. However, in reality, men cannot give birth, whatever the BBC says. Maternity leave happens after the birth to medically recover from the worst of it (really it takes about a year biologically).

“Why are women congratulated for conceiving?”

Because it’s a medical phenomena that happens inside their body. 

Are they really this dumb? [yes]

They continue to grow and support life itself, that’s impressive. They’ll also have to give birth, which you won’t.

Most of their complaints can be answered with: well, you don’t have to.

Women who choose not to have children still see pregnancy test adverts. They aren’t bitching about it.

Spinsters see marriage programmes on TV. Where is their forum bitching?

Society doesn’t stop because of Princess.

They sound transgender, with all this talk about the ‘evils’ of gender roles and being fluid in their societal duties.

You’re either a man or you’re not. This isn’t hard.

Don’t they get this? I think many of them just have such a low IQ they think the basics of adult living are a huge accomplishment. Women should scatter rose petals at their feet for… not having a criminal record and other things that are… normal.

They want to be spoiled but they aren’t even gay.

Men do the spoiling. Get a boyfriend, let him spoil you. Why do you think men get a sex change? They want a sugar daddy, they need to look female.

Women do provide for men but not the maternal succour they try to demand. Women are maternal to children, not adults and especially not sexual partners. It’s creepy. To be that needy as an adult, just go get it from your actual mother. You will never find a sexy mother replacement. It’s irreconcilable. Women respect (and are attracted to) adults.

(They also won’t find a new one every decade as they age. They think they don’t age.)

Yeah, demanding things from women they cannot biologically (are not evolved to) provide is a recipe for failure.

You can’t blame that on women, broflake.

I deserve this and this and this…” is bullshit in entitled women and men!

You deserve nothing and respect has to be earned. They don’t even respect themselves.

If I hated American men and wanted their legacy to die out, I’d convince them women are like the Jewish Lilith and never to marry or have kids (both of which extend male lifespan and joy).

Males commit more suicide because most of those suicides are bachelors.

Being single (bachelor) is the biggest suicide risk factor for men.
https://psychcentral.com/news/2013/06/11/mens-suicide-rate-is-3-times-that-of-women/55897.html
Almost like they evolved to have a spouse?

ding ding we have a winning study, they’ll never look into it

admitting their lifestyle is medically bad for them would require self-critique

(single women by contrast live longer, especially nuns or the celibate women)

asking happily married men how they did it would require change

Men are also at risk once they are hit by the reality of aging in the 50s. Men young enough to be their children outcompete them.
I’m sure that’s a coincidence. It can’t be regret, right players? There’s no such thing as player burnout, is there?

Men can have children any time they like, sperm doesn’t accumulate mutations year on year, does it? [does]

 

Don’t get me started on the narcissists who feel entitled to sex with women ….without the women part. Well, if you encounter any human socially, you’re bound to expect problems from that. The original MGTOW was quite brilliant in forsaking women and even dating them altogether. Fucking women causes 99% of women “problems”, you signed up for it. Nobody feels sorry for somebody that stupid.

Shame is your conscience

Shame isn’t something that comes from outside. It’s only triggered.

Alongside guilt, regret, contrition and remorse, they are emotions caused and produced and experienced in yourself.

If you feel shame for doing a thing, you should.

The system is fully operational.

And then you should also learn from it, by not doing it again.

Or there’ll be even more shame, however repressed, in your future.

Are there shameless people? Yes. They have bigger problems, believe me. See title.

Anyone who refuses to grow up is wasting year after year of their life they could’ve fully experienced.

Sometimes you won’t feel good things.

Welcome to being a good (or better) person.

Shame is based on actions. If you didn’t do a wrong thing, what’s the problem?

Shame is not disapproval. Bad people disapprove of good ones, it infers nothing of the moral high ground as an opinion and people with the least moral authority carp “only God can judge me!” and “how dare you say that, who are you to say that?” or “you’re (noun) shaming!” which is just… descriptive.

Yes, shaming a man for doing something wrong is valid.

Nobody shames a man for existing.

They shame him for being bad at the man thing. This isn’t about your genitals, it’s about trying to absolve yourself of responsibility for your own life using your genitals and trying to foist the blame (agency) onto other people. Otherwise, make a penis hat and go on a march.

Sorry, forgot you already did that. I’m picturing some middle-class boat shoes, bad shorts and a single, lonely tiki torch in the corner of a room, never to be lit again.

It’s funny they’re even trying this with other men now.

Oh, does he hate men too? Nice thought-terminating cliche, morons.

Because guess what – the person who notices and tries to draw attention to your faults and improves you – they care, and best of all, they’re trying to help you.

What would you prefer? Mollycoddling?

Should men/women/both lavish praise on you, fake praise and humour you like a little kid? Do the equivalent of praise your crappy crayon drawing?

Holding men to a high standard isn’t a bad thing. They wouldn’t say it if they didn’t think you could do it.

This “man shaming” thing

[that won’t ever ever be a thing, men aren’t shamed enough for the bad things they do compared to women]

is more nonsensical than the SJW’s slut shaming. It isn’t woman shaming, is it?

I’ve never, ever been slut-shamed. Guess why!

[Women have tried to start rumours, guess what they were. Didn’t work.]

And to be totally fair:

So it isn’t being a man, don’t blame other men or assume they’re like you. Part of the problem is blaming the collective but trying to take credit for simple things as an individual. That’s what little kids do.

And it won’t make you happier. As people who have overcome that phase have been trying to tell you!

Bitching about man shaming is proving the very reason you should be shamed.

Pic for clarity:

It isn’t about being a man though. Is it?

You know.

Deep down, you know.

If you think any group is beyond reproach or question, go get a plushie lobster in a Peterson-esque safe space and cry into a copy of Fight Club.

“Someone, somewhere, doesn’t like me!”

If you had a life, you wouldn’t care.

This post could have been a lot meaner.

Video: MRA/MGTOW misogyny and deception

The Refugee Crisis is simply a convenient excuse. I’m taking the gloves off for this one. I’ve avoided the topic because I didn’t want to give them an excuse to bitch, but this needs to be said. Rock and roll.

He says around 18 minutes “It’s difficult being in your 20s, why do you think it’s easier for women?”
Oppression Olympics. An excuse for self-pity, projection and hatred of Other. Since they are male, they hate female. They are worthless narcissists who must loathe and blame others to justify their irrelevant existence. If they were black, they’d join the Black Panthers. If they were women, they’d become feminists. They want an excuse for being worthless and Othering is the Critical Theory toolbox for political activism. “It’s all Their fault! I’d be all kinds of successful if it weren’t for those meddling feminists!” Ignore the fact they do nothing to become successful (see Gotta love Millennials) and expect it to fall into their lap, the entitlement is typical of their age.
They will brainwash themselves into believing that women in this century don’t really suffer from anything, both dehumanizing us and idealizing onto a pedestal. Does the economy I live in magically stop sucking? Are immigrants magically not taking typically female jobs too, like nanny? Can women afford to marry/have kids, when traditionally, the bride’s family pays? Can women move out of their parent’s home where men cannot? Can women afford a car on top of the higher everyday expenses of being a woman e.g. when our clothes are more expensive?
It’s a non sequitur that “I have it hard, so women must have it easy.” There is no evidence for this. Find me something, prove me wrong, please. I’ve yet to find anything in years of looking. The SJWs are from rich families, insulated from consequence, male or female, they’ll be OK. Their class protects them, not their sex. The legal system has plenty of issues that screw over everyone at some point and they’ll never be resolved because history teaches this, it’s unreasonable to expect change without force, physical force. There is no male-specific argument where women are exempt from bad circumstance, it’s a fantasy of impotence. Circumcision used to be the one argument, but then female variants were imported so you no longer have that one either. Everything 21st century of male suffering has a female counterpart, yet these losers who have nothing better to do than kick women online will play crybully like the SJW they knock. “B-b-b-but women do this, don’t do that, and it’s unfair!”
Life is unfair, which planet do you live on?

Snape was a role model in some ways

Nobody has it easy and this equality thing is impossible, but that doesn’t occur to them.
Are the sexes equal or not? Either they are, and you’re no better than us, or they’re different, and different treatment is indicated by common sense, as well as science. You see, these males think they’re rational, but they’re only good at rationalization. It’s post-hoc excuse-mongering, tallying up perceived slights to portray themselves as the blameless Madonna. I’ve slagged off feminists (m/f/neither) enough to give the fair treatment to these males too. I’ve given them special favoritism, claiming to be Right while using the weak-is-good tactics of the Left, for too long. I waited to see if they’d abandon the sinking ship and this new low merits it. All the good MGTOW left years ago, they aren’t wasting their time online attention whoring and bitching, that’s a chick thing, right?
They’re signalling for the Government cheese and bailout/savior in the exact same way the SJWs have been doing, and it’s sickening so here goes. You wanna be a Damsel, here’s the dragon and we owe you burns.

Here are the common rhetorical tactics I am seeing from the misogynists knocking around hiding behind Muh freedom to be (MRA/MGTOW/PUA) as a shield from criticism, pretending their hatred of women has anything to do with something those women have done. Pretending their cowardice in defending their countries and even themselves is a secret strength (gamma Secret Kings, omega Revenge Fantasies). The projections of the Male-exclusive Political Groups are being condemned as exclusive and hateful — because they are. I’ll put it in list form for the aspies.

  1. Whataboutism e.g. sure, women were raped in Cologne, but what about male prison rape in America? derailment.
  2. There’s data about people who aren’t me, but I’m going to complain about it anyway e.g. men are paying alimony, I don’t, but others are, is exactly like the Rape Victim totem of the SJWs, because other women get raped, that entitles them to an opinion about it.
  3. But we suffer, too! Concern trolling.
  4. We’re all victims here appeal to weakness.
  5. America owes Europe nothing versus Lol, Europe is manning up and voting out the Left, let’s follow suit.
  6. The Man is keeping us down more! We are the Man and physically strong enough to overpower any government in history, but we’re the oppressed ones here!
  7. Male politicians serving the CM agenda do not count, but all women are to be treated feminists and evil shrews.
  8. The sentiment that ‘Lol the white whores are gonna get it’ being the same sadism from men as feminists show with #maletears and prison rape jokes, both cruelties are repulsive. (See The ‘Alpha’ is Omega).
  9. Bring back the death penalty, but prison sentences for men are too long.
  10. Castration is a punishment we should never endorse because it’s anti-man, let’s castrate pedophiles so we can free up the prisons.
  11. The age of consent is important and keeps children safe, let’s lower it! We should encourage teen pregnancy and have girls start families young, unless they can’t financially support themselves because they’re still kids themselves!
  12. If men never want a family, there is nothing wrong with them. Spinsters offend God.
  13. The Bible exists when I need to make someone else feel guilty. Using it against me makes you a religious nutjob, obviously the sky fairy isn’t real.
  14. Telling men they should marry young interferes with their human rights, but let’s force women to marry young because… they aren’t human (implication)?
  15. Your conscience is wrong, women don’t deserve any protection however they act. Let’s hold young women responsible for old feminism and its policies, which they never voted in, but I’m not responsible for slavery or keeping women out of the workplace prior to second wave.
  16. Meritocracy! But let’s exclude the women. Because reasons.
  17. We need more engineers etc to compete with Asia. Let’s dissuade women from contributing to society via STEM.
  18. Women are low IQ! Ignore the total number of male retards and female outperformance in the economy.
  19. Segregate schools by sex to give boys a chance to succeed, they’re entitled to the opportunity. Why do girls need to go to school, or college? Their good outcomes must be artificial, despite outperforming boys in sitting still and listening since the Victorian era, when they were allowed in the classroom.
  20. The nubile women will abandon you, so ignore them and reject them (and let us pick them up in your place).
  21. Women vote Left, deny them the vote. (rebuttal – False, according to recent data I pulled up in the post Universal Suffrage, and why not ban Left parties if that’s the wrong here? Oh wait, cos men should be allowed to vote for the Left, right? It was universal suffrage, idiots, look it up and realize we’d go back to a property-owning system, do you own property? No? STFU.)
  22. Sleeping with your future wife is the right thing to do, but while I will never marry and have kids, you should totally marry her once I’ve used her and keep the fertility rates up, so I can bang your grand-daughter too.
  23. I have a right to call women anything I like, but when women do the same, they’re being sexist.
  24. Hold single moms responsible! Single dads are victims!
  25. Female rape is a joke, male rape is an abomination.
  26. Promiscuity is the worst evil in the whole world and should be stopped! Unless men are doing it, then we can’t help it because muh evolution and testosterone supplements.
  27. Women shouldn’t be left in charge of anything, because men did such a fine job of getting society to this point. They can run a house without maids, that isn’t a ‘real’ job and neither is motherhood/primary caregiver.
  28. Double standards don’t exist but the sexes totally aren’t equal, never have been and never will be. We shouldn’t treat them the same because they aren’t, but that isn’t a double standard somehow and I’m gonna totally miss the point on purpose, playing dumb, that morally, everyone in a society should be held to the same social standard if we’re to get anything done. I don’t wanna make progress if it involves being nice to women.
  29. Evolution apparently says men shouldn’t be monogamous [citation needed] versus Why can’t I keep a girlfriend? I can’t find explanations for either of these to back up my claim by Burden of Proof but believe me, the problem must be external, as I have an external locus of control, and if you disagree, you hate men, because all men hold the same opinions as me.
  30. It’s ad hominem if it hurts my feelings.
  31. I am a fitting unelected spokesman for the opinions of all men everywhere in the world, we all have the same problems that happen to align perfectly with my own issues, and if you find my unfounded opinions abhorrent, you must have this problem with all men, and I bet you’re an old ugly Sex and the City singleton.
  32. Men need male-only spaces respected, like gentleman’s clubs and forums, but I can totally go on sites for women, especially conservative women, and call them the scum of the earth, that’s just fun and they’re weak for wanting an exclusive space.
  33. Stereotypes about men are vindictive and signs of a mentally damaged speaker (what libel), stereotypes about women are hilarious, grow a sense of humor.
  34. It’s a naturalistic fallacy when it interrupts our hedonism.
  35. Sure, we get more free sex than ever before in human history, the one thing men want, for doing nothing to serve our community/country, but men are the real victims of the modern SMP.
  36. Women don’t get to decide what makes a good husband or what they want in a husband, but I can totally write out a 100-point list of criteria for my future imaginary wife, including #100, must be anime waifu. This is realistic and my dream, I deserve this, don’t you dare laugh.
  37. Ignore the genophilia data saying white women outbreed least often globally and exhibit the most ingroup preference in dating choices, they aren’t Your Women and they don’t want you. 
  38. We are scientific, unless the science disagrees with us, then we’re free to ignore it because we’re red pill and want the truth or call it a conspiracy, but the Patriarchy is silly.
  39. Being a criminal is alpha.
  40. Having multiple children out of wedlock and divorcing for no reason because that bitch didn’t ‘respect’ you, that’s alpha.
  41. You should expect men to get a beer belly and let themselves go when married, but women should stay fit for their husband, meanwhile, we can assume men get better with age despite studies never looking past age 40-50 ratings, when the SMP dries up, ignore the declined average appearance of men in the West over the last century under the ‘Men, what happened?’ meme.
  42. Men wear casual clothes like a teenager, they’re GTOW. Women wear casual clothes, they’re lazy, cheap and lemmings.
  43. Going after someone younger sexually is good when men do it, no negative repercussions to society at all. When women do it, it’s creepy and exploitative, despite women rarely supporting their lovers or trying to lock them in with marriage.
  44. Men should be allowed to leave/cheat on their wives, but the reverse isn’t what God would’ve wanted, even if the guy is Ted Bundy. Somehow I know better what God wants than the part of the Bible about stoning adulterers to death.
  45. Men should be allowed to get married multiple times, because they haven’t proven themselves incapable of the responsibility or commitment to the vows the first time. Women shouldn’t remarry because Bible.
  46. Slutty women can’t pair bond and they’re useless for marriage. Slutty men aren’t a divorce risk despite never handling that data and you should marry them over the non-slutty men because they have valuable experience.
  47. All men wanna be sluts, this is natural and should be encouraged nationwide. We don’t know who they’d sleep with exactly, but women shouldn’t be allowed to sleep around so I guess… homosexuality?
  48. Impulse control is for losers but Enjoy the Decline, the Empire is collapsing and we’re like Rome lol.
  49. I see the problems, but contributing to them doesn’t make a bad person.
  50. I can Have it All, I can sleep around, get numerous STDs and this will never affect my MMV, which is never considered and, one day, magically, a 10/10 wife material woman will pop into existence just in time for marriage, I will be a great husband, my wife must serve me like a slave despite my having no social status or ability to provide, love and keep at least an LTR but if the marriage fails it must be her fault.
  51. Women are ruining marriage in the West, but men don’t need to work on anything, ever. Why is the marriage rate low and the divorce rate high?
  52. Bible says this thing but let’s ignore how this also applies to me.
  53. I don’t believe in God, but my future wife should, and still choose me because what assortative mating.
  54. Sociology’s Hypergamy is on the rise, ignore the data showing it died in the last century.
  55. Women should support themselves but when they do they’re no better than feminists. We need 2-incomes to run a modern household, but I expect I’ll be making bank off my blog posts and angry Youtube rants forever, because the Internet is never capricious to trends.
  56. I can’t afford a wife, let’s blame women.
  57. Women sexually reject me, all women are whores.
  58. Where have all the good women gone? Hahaha I’ll never be a White Knight.
  59. Women play Damsel to the politicians, save me Donald Trump! 
  60. Genetic suicide is totally what Darwin wanted. Omg sub-replacement panic.
  61. Rar rar terrorism, invasion, I’d never join the army, what is there to defend?
  62. Refugees aren’t entitled to native women, but I’m entitled to the native women of other countries.
  63. Sex-selective abortion is fine.
  64. Sluts are only bad when they aren’t sleeping with me.
  65. Women expect to be supported, how dare they, but I expect a wife in all but name and any woman not supported by a husband is an SJW.
  66. We won’t compete for women, that’s a pedestal, why are we being outcompeted? The world should stop because we do, they need us!
  67. Women file for most divorces, ignore how it’s due to male cheating and addiction.
  68. Wanting exotic foreign men is evil, but I love me some Brazilian ass, East European blondes or stereo-typically submissive Asian girls, slightly too young to be legal.
  69. Coercion doesn’t make it rape of women, but men should never be pressured into doing anything e.g. even oral.
  70. European women want the refugees, that’s why the refugees resort to raping them. (Such cognitive dissonance.)
  71. The army age immigrants will never hurt us, even though they’re raping little boys too.
  72. Men should sit on their arses and do nothing as civilization dies, our ancestors would be proud.
  73. Angry ranting online about how much women suck will attract them because negging.
  74. American women are selfish but I have a right to do anything I want, whatever it means to society… but I’m a patriot, sure.
  75. Women are basically another species and I treat dogs better (let it live in my house, feed it, love it). Pets are fitting replacements for children, but I laugh at the girls with tiny dogs in purses because they’re childless losers and no man wants them.
  76. Women are narcissistic, but if I can’t fuck her, what good is she? A man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle.
  77. Women can defend themselves, but we aren’t equal and they shouldn’t be allowed in the military because they can’t perform.
  78. Women don’t care about my looks, but they’re shallow bitches.
  79. Women want power, because men have never wanted power ever before in all of mankind’s history and seeking power or admiring it is wrong. Btw, read the Laws of Power, it’s my fave book, so edgy.
  80. The economy sucks because of women, yeah, so what if most politicians are men?
  81. I don’t need women, that’s why I spend all my free time talking about them and shouting at them.
  82. I’m going my own way, which happens to be in the direction of your women.
  83. You can’t be addicted to porn and promiscuity is good for you, the feminists were right about those. Just those two things.
  84. Let’s talk about self-improvement to avoid actually doing it. Why aren’t I popular? Why am I treading water? What do I need to do?
  85. The system is against me. I don’t need to do any of the things I complain about, like get married or have kids or buy a house, but it’s systemic sexism that my choices would have consequences. This is an unjust first in all human history.
  86. Because I say so [no citation needed] and I’m a man so my opinion is always correct, even when discussing the nature of women as if I know their minds better than they do versus omg I’m not gaslighting, you really are inferior to us and women don’t have valid opinions on what men are really like either. How could you possibly understand what it’s like to be a man, you’re so dumb to think it’s even possible. Duh women are the empathetic sex, to care for the babies.
  87. Freud was right about women all the way but men don’t have womb envy and the Oedipal Complex doesn’t exist, it’s a stupid idea.
  88. Pro-woman means anti-man. I know there are plenty of women against feminism and few call themselves that by statistics, but they only want our attention so let’s lump them in with the enemy and call them misandrist when they come to hate us for calling them all whores.
  89. Porn hasn’t warped our perceptions at all, whore. Women are gagging for it 24/7 and they wanna be choked.
  90. If men have addictions, women should feel guilty because they made us like this.
  91. Women have been given more rights than men but I can’t name a single one of them.
  92. Totally ignore the male Cultural Marxists in academia, men have no obligation to fix this mess because we didn’t cause it.
  93. Let’s use the insult feminist as a synonym for All Women and wonder why we get Not All in reply backed with data. Omg male feminists are on the rise too, ignore, deny, swerve. Let’s never blame men for any of their actions, but the system is totally infantilizing us and women have the hypoagency.
  94. Our species needs to be gynocentric to survive, as women produce and raise heirs, but this is a bad thing because women have a tiny measure of power over us to dictate who they have children with, although I don’t want to have children with them, let’s redistribute the sex like wealth, AA for low-status horndogs.
  95. Sterile sex and fertile sex are pretty much interchangeable and this distinction has no bearing on the conversation, even when discussing evolution and the future of society.
  96. Men need a purpose, but admitting to needing women is the most shameful weakness possible, and fyi all women need men.
  97. Nihilism isn’t a sign of clinical depression we need to get treated, but a sign we’re correct and everything is objectively hopeless. Why are more men killing themselves? We red-pilled them and told them life isn’t worth living, why are people ignoring us?
  98. Women need to be lead by men, we don’t wanna be responsible for them, let’s continue to act like 13yos. We refuse to man up and wife up those sluts. Why are women adapting because we’re failing at our masculine role? How dare their lives go on around us and our laziness as they struggle to make it by themselves! How dare they continue on?! Don’t they know they need us? Society should be stopping because we’re on strike, but it isn’t. If we can’t succeed because we refuse to try, they should be banned too. The feminists must be helping them, despite a lack of evidence for this and in fact, evidence of feminist-led punishment of hot women in hiring decisions, for example, but never mention Frankfurt and the Divide/Conquer strategy in the West.
  99. SJWs are authoritarians who wanna control the lives of others, we’d never be like that and as long as we have free speech, we’ll defend our rights (never with force). Stop women from (voting, campaigning, speaking), we aren’t misogynists though. We say we love women, we just want to treat them as if they’re subhuman, practically speaking. Why the hate?
  100. How dare you mock us for being keyboard alphas, you’ll be sorry, they’re abusing us online with their valid criticism, they shouldn’t be allowed to dissent like that. Why do the feminists have examples of our spiteful rants directed at them? Why are people reading those? They’re abusing us, even though we react to everything they say, knowing they’re baiting us for rentseeking purposes.
  101. We’re smarter than the feminists, that’s why we loudly give a platform to everything they do and spend most of our time playing Chinese Whispers instead of focusing on our own business. Why are they getting so much attention? It must be the MSM’s fault!
  102. Sure, my income depends on the continued existence of the enemy to smack like a rhetorical pinata, and I can never get a regular job again thanks to my internet trail, but I want feminism to fall just as much as you do! I don’t have a vested interest in any of this.
  103. <Failing to see you will pay for the newcomers and their 8 children by 3 wives by virtue of living in the same country aka you will be supporting a family via taxation and increased living costs due to supply/demand, just not your own genetic family.> [define: cuck]
  104. Men are the more violent and criminal sex, but look, we’re the real victims, there are some terrible women in these anecdotes, so all rape accusations must be false, it’s a false rape epidemic, a false rape culture. Why don’t men come forward and press charges for rape, the wimps.
  105. Historically, invading hordes grow their numbers then kill the native men 100% of the time, having no use for us, but let’s allow them to take our women and expect they’ll leave us alone to our FPS video games. So what if more come? What are they gonna do, kill us? I wouldn’t join the army or defend myself, but I’m pretty sure the police would protect me. Wtf why are feminists expecting the police would protect them? Why do they always expect the real men to rescue them? The victim culture needs to end.

What’s my main issue with them?

They’re anti-natal, anti-family and antisocial (anti-society). They don’t contribute financially, making them parasites.

We brought this evil upon ourselves.

Yet they waste time, to lecture us as if they have any moral authority, when they do nothing and they are nothing to us, admittedly and proudly worthless. They fail to see the contradictions and cognitive dissonance in themselves but project all their flaws onto others, making the necessary improvements to fix the issues harder to implement for those of us who actually care about the future. They’re dead weight.

MGTOW are the male specialization of the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement derangement, ragequitting the race for life and throwing their toys out the pram because they can’t get all their ‘own way’, and the feminazis who want to genocide men to at least 10% of their natural population want more white men to go genetic suicide/anti-natal. Feminists aren’t complaining about MGTOW for that very reason, didn’t you pause to consider this?
http://www.vhemt.org/
Cleaning up the speech from the top video, MW finishes;

starts 23m

MGTOW is an analogue of feminism, it tells them they shouldn’t care about women and shouldn’t care about society.
Infantilises men, encourages them to detach from society. Distract yourself with hobbies. Men are engaged in the future via women. MGTOWs don’t care about the long term because it needs women. Some see the vindication of their ideology in the invasion because of SJWs, male and especially female, siding with the invaders [DS: citation needed]. ‘Why should I care when they don’t?’ We have to overlook, work around, solve it, to hold society together. We need a struggle, a fight. It’s the attitude of a spoiled child to think it should happen naturally. The attitude is that of a spoiled child, sorry, no other way to say it. We can’t afford to say unless human nature is benign, we should give up, don’t hope for the best, we can’t afford to switch off. Get over your hangups about women. It’s an unhealthy affectation and we don’t have the time, the luxury, we need your help.”

I’m going to make the reverse prediction and say their numbers will decline during K-shift. Other men won’t put up with their ennui excuses for cowardice either. They can’t maintain long term commitments, that’s their issue. Jobs, marriages, any of that mature adult stuff. They are impotent and refuse to change, they cannot affect change!

TLDR: Unless you’re pro-civilization, you’re the enemy, I don’t care what you call yourself, it’s the defining trait of Cultural Marxism. Self-destruction is fine, advocating your society’s destruction, by action or omission? You are automatically outgroup and traitor.

You shouldn’t require a reason to care about your own future and/or that of your country. These guys are suicidally depressed, not a model for male mental health.

He’s semi-wrong on one thing. The prize isn’t ‘white women’ or sterile contracepted sex, per se, the prize is a future. A future for your genetics. You are the first in your line not to reproduce, to be a willing genetic suicide is the worst personal failure imaginable, read Dawkins for a secular perspective. We have at least ONE purpose and it’s family. The creation (women) and protection of (men) family are the respective civilizational duties. Nihilism comes into play here, as nothing else matters. The DNA of brilliant celibate monks is still dead, forever. The future won’t benefit, the theoretical victory is a hollow one. Men are failing in their primary duty to protect the women, to lead, to go forth and act first, if P then Q, if victory then monogamy, so why would these women have children, invest in them, tie their prospects to this mast, bless these men with a genetic future, their sole gift, when those guys did nothing to deserve it? When they refused to compete, chose to act like women expecting someone else to do it and virtue signal it as a social good, and still lost? Bottom line.

They are losers who hate women, because ‘women’ hated them first. This was expressed in sexual rejection. They never question why this might be or whether they brought it on themselves, like the social rejection of other males. Women are under no obligation to fancy you, they are completely justified in holding an accurate opinion of your low SES. Nobody is attracted to a loser, especially one who is proud of their refusal to self-improve. I don’t know what’s worse, that they’re losers when times have never been so easy, or that they know some of the score, they know how bad things are and they refuse to step up. For themselves, for their pre-existing families, for anything whatsoever.  You could offer them a lottery win and they’d talk their way out of it. They’re so passively milquetoast and we’re supposedly expected to respect their opinions on masculinity? They try to demand this socially, without having earned it, while forgetting they’re unpopular. Talking about ‘alpha’ism won’t make us confuse you for one, women look to actions, results and the hard red pill is, these guys would have been losers in any society they were born into. Every generation has them.

Think about it from the woman’s choice.

Why choose them? When they fail to defend children, also being raped? Why have children with that? Why respect that? That isn’t a man, it’s a little boy. Boys need someone else to fight their battles, hiding behind mother’s apron strings. Boys want the adults to sort it out. Boys expect Other protection. Women in the desert island scenario are more important than men. Red pill. Science. Deal with it. However, young men have an opportunity here to reassert themselves, to dominate and recapture the social respect they have lost in the transition to effete hipsterism, decades into decadence. They don’t want to change, they refuse to grow up. They’re scared. They can’t even defend themselves.
The Spartans gave every boy a rite of passage.
If they won, they became men. If they lost, they were cast out. That’s your Patriarchy. Evolve or die.
The MRA/MGTOW misogynists aren’t merely going to be cast out genetically. Look long term.
Whoever wins the War for the West, they will be patriarchal. It is certain. They will not allow outgroup male competition to live or thrive, sexually or socially. Cowards (r-types) will be cast out if the native Ks win and white men will be used as sex slaves at best if the non-White Muslims win (they invented m-m fellatio as a humiliating punishment for prisoners of war). It’s your fight too, duh. Perhaps moreso, considering women will have more options regardless of outcome. Whatever happens, the invaders are a demographic threat, to everyone’s way of life.

Translation?

You cannot sit this one out. That isn’t an option.

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If I hurt your feelings with these redpill hatefacts, know that I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, do not give a fuck. This is more important than anyone’s feefees.