Sure enough, a meat tax has been mooted. But the big problem with green taxes is that they hit the least affluent hardest. It’s people on low incomes who are most sensitive to marginal increases in the cost of their food and flights and who might decide they can’t afford their one holiday a year as a result.
I know people who’ve never been on holiday, you bourgeoisie whore.
Could you go on holiday home and never come back?
But it’s the very well-off who can much more easily absorb the cost of green taxes who do the bulk of the polluting: the richest 10% of households in the UK produce four times as many emissions as those in the bottom 50. That’s one reason why a jury set up by the Food Ethics Council rejected the idea of a meat tax last week.
Archive, archive, archive.
They’re so classist they can’t even say rich and poor now, it’s too triggering.
They might have a peep show moment and realize calling for further starvation of people already going to food banks, paid below inflation as prices rise and skipping meals so the kids can eat (tag food security) makes them the bad guys.
So what they’re actually swinging at is a wealth tax on luxury food – that doesn’t affect them, people who purchase luxury food. I’m so glad champagne yields are fucked by global cooling. Foodies should just move abroad if they hate ‘British’ food so much.
How about rationing JUST flights? That’d work!
Way to make a middle-class cunt expose themselves – “but what if I deserve four holidays and three breaks a yar?”
We all need to eat, we don’t all need to go to the Maldives.
Ration flyer miles. Poor people can sell theirs, it works!
I want to do more, but I know I need someone to force me to take my carbon footprint more seriously.
r-type inner monologue: I’m weak so I’m gonna use that as an excuse to curtail your right to live.
[Food: You know the rich would buy their way out of it.]
Best way to ‘reduce your footprint’ is ban imports of fruit, actually. Your breakfast shouldn’t travel more than the chav down the road in a decade.
This is what happens when you let the out-group invade your media.
I hear this stuff before all of you.
The fact that would boost Podesta’s investment in Frankenmeat is a complete coincidence….
Eat your peanut protein pesticide burger, serf!
Harvard purchased land for its water supply.
Let me guess – the ethnic restaurants are exempt?
Londoners are exempt?
Will KFC and all rip-offs be forcibly shut down?
I guess at least rape gangs couldn’t run kebab shops to get rid of the bodies.
Lefties are exempt?
White people only?
We could cut off foreign aid, they use it to buy meat!
And do the suppliers stop supplying in this country? No.
They get to sell it to China and we can’t complain, because that’s what the Government wanted.
I warned ya. If you’re not fucking furious yet, you don’t understand what they’re doing.
Chromosomes make the culture and third worlders bring oppression with them.
Prior to famine, if you reduce the quality of the food, an uprising is far less likely because the populace would lack the brainpower (vegan brain fog) and energy. Ideally you’d do this over decades so generations of young no longer remember drive (further reduced with pot smoking) and clarity (here, take this pill!). To increase food palatability, spice everything in sight so you can’t taste the vegetarian shit. Because that’s 99% of cooking if you’re Asian and thick.
When are we taxing spices, eh?
SSRIs are like Gen Y magic beans. Hope you didn’t plan on a burger with your chemical lobotomy, that’d be immoral!
Don’t look at food production data! Don’t compare with immigration data!
It’s totes S U S T A I N A B L E
Your logic here is that as you are unable to control your personal impulses you want to inflict your world view on everybody else by coercion.
Hitler wanted rations at the camps…..
It’s literal death camp ration logic.
The biggest meat consumers in this country also fly the most to visit family and export child rape victims as ‘brides’ so…. this could be funny.
Sorry you are an adult and need to take responsibility for your own actions/inactions and its really not down to me to make you a better person by forcing you to do the things you know you really should do
You’re trying to reason with the brown.
Because that’s worked so well since we colonized Africa.
Maybe we should get Peterson on to tell her to clean her room.
This is very much, a middle class problem. There are large numbers of poor working people in this country who can’t afford to drive, take foreign holidays or eat much meat. They are already on rations. How about giving them a mention.
Because she’s a classist whore, obviously. She cares about the ‘planet’, at the expense of the people.
But the planet will be fine, this is an ecosystem question.
What’s the blitheringly obvious risk?
All this discussion of ‘sin tax’ and in the age of antibiotic resistance, not making the repeat STD offenders pay for their own? If an adult can buy their own Pill or condoms, and consensually not use the latter, why not clean their own urethra they’re frequently, deliberately polluting? And making everyone else likelier to die in hospital each time, there’s your ‘tragedy of the commons’.
Some people in London are literally human biohazards. It isn’t the cows.
I propose a thot and manwhore tax on their STD treatments.
People moving from warm countries to cold ones will freeze to death or move home.
Bolded abstract for the lazy:
Prediction of Solar Activity from Solar Background Magnetic Field Variations in Cycles 21-23
A comprehensive spectral analysis of both the solar background magnetic field (SBMF) in cycles 21–23 and the sunspot magnetic field in cycle 23 reported in our recent paper showed the presence of two principal components (PCs) of SBMF having opposite polarity, e.g., originating in the northern and southern hemispheres, respectively. Over a duration of one solar cycle, both waves are found to travel with an increasing phase shift toward the northern hemisphere in odd cycles 21 and 23 and to the southern hemisphere in even cycle 22. These waves were linked to solar dynamo waves assumed to form in different layers of the solar interior. In this paper, for the first time, the PCs of SBMF in cycles 21–23 are analyzed with the symbolic regression technique using Hamiltonian principles, allowing us to uncover the underlying mathematical laws governing these complex waves in the SBMF presented by PCs and to extrapolate these PCs to cycles 24–26. The PCs predicted for cycle 24 very closely fit (with an accuracy better than 98%) the PCs derived from the SBMF observations in this cycle. This approach also predicts a strong reduction of the SBMF in cycles 25 and 26 and, thus, a reduction of the resulting solar activity. This decrease is accompanied by an increasing phase shift between the two predicted PCs (magnetic waves) in cycle 25 leading to their full separation into the opposite hemispheres in cycle 26. The variations of the modulus summary of the two PCs in SBMF reveals a remarkable resemblance to the average number of sunspots in cycles 21–24 and to predictions of reduced sunspot numbers compared to cycle 24: 80% in cycle 25 and 40% in cycle 26.
trans. the Sun is taking a chill pill and expect bad harvests.
Turns out when you look at the Sun, Earth’s surface temperature is predictive!
New readers who don’t know I read physics papers:
From the conclusion:
We can conclude with a sufficient degree of confidence
that the solar activity in cycles 24–26 will be systematically
decreasing because of the increasing phase shift between the
two magnetic waves of the poloidal field leading to their full
separation into opposite hemispheres in cycles 25 and 26. This
separation is expected to result in the lack of their subsequent
interaction in any of the hemispheres, possibly leading to a lack
of noticeable sunspot activity on the solar surface lasting for a
decade or two, similar to those recorded in the medieval period.
The Mini Ice Age? Famine? Specify.
Note the link says one third that magically disappears.
Fake news, people who can afford to go to Waitrose are going to boutique butchers.
“One in eight”
“Britons is now vegetarian or vegan, according to a new report on food shopping that underlines a revolution in the UK’s eating habits.”
Invest in healthcare, there’s a boom in medical conditions on the horizon.
Veganism: The brain aging diet?
Vegetarian and vegan are totally different diets, stop conflating them, the false equivalence gives me a Vitamin B12 deficiency brain shrinkage headache.
There’s also the blatantly obvious fact that more plants increases pesticide ingestion. Organic plants still contain a lot of pesticide, increasing intake substantially (% of diet) will steamroll omnivore consumption.
Plus the animal and bug murder of ‘pest control’.
A five year-old could understand that making food involves killing things, that also want to eat your food. Biological competition?
Here’s where they sneak in the propaganda:
“A series of influential reports have said that avoiding meat and dairy products is the single biggest way consumers can reduce their environmental impact on the planet, because farming animals is such a CO2-intensive process.”
So is the article about a Waitrose survey or mysterious, unlinked (!) reports?
“Nick Palmer, the head of Compassion in World Farming UK says “Science proves that the healthiest diet is one that is plant-heavy. By eating less meat, fish, eggs and dairy
most food, then
and choosing higher welfare when we do, we can all help animals, people and the planet.””
Science proves – no, it doesn’t.
Source? There are certainly no solid studies like that on vegans. We’ve been looking but all they hand us is hand-waving conjecture and reddit-tier self-report. Scientism promotes the high-fructose diet of veganism and their skin shows it.
Also, people are animals. If you really wanted to help the planet, you’d commit suicide. Total extinction of your carbon footprint, as a carbon-based life form.
The Waitrose info seems to confirm it’s a static fad, as in, no new people are taking it up.
“Publication of the findings represents awkward timing for Waitrose.” PR. Fake news. A term banned in the press here now.
Faking data for the public should be illegal, especially when these people are dispensing medical advice.
Back to pure, organic bullshit:
“The number of vegans in the UK, who shun all animal products including dairy and eggs, has grown fourfold in the past four years from 150,000 to 600,000,”
Wait for it.
“…according to the Vegan Society.”
Would they lie to us? And that isn’t very encouraging considering rising obesity levels, what % of vegetarians and what % of vegans are overweight at all?
Look at the Waitrose data. There are tiny percentages involved.
For <50s, the number is static between age ranges. There is no movement.
The lines added represent the mean for almost all age groups, and it wobbles within 1-2%, nothing!
“Waitrose was the first UK supermarket to install dedicated vegan sections in 134 of its stores in May.”
Ah, this is an advert.
What’s the difference between a cucumber and a vegan cucumber?
What you do with it.
That justifies the price hike.
“This year, we’ve seen vegan food go mainstream” said Natalie Mitchell.
No, it isn’t, the rate of uptake isn’t higher with people under 30 or even 20.
If you’re gonna lie with statistics, get good with it?
“people are discovering that it tastes amazing.”
“Many of the vegan and vegetarian respondents said they missed bacon sandwiches and pork scratchings.”
“About 60% of vegans and 40% of vegetarians surveyed said they had adopted the lifestyle over the past five years, with 55% citing animal welfare concerns, 45% health reasons and 38% environmental issues.”
So what? Relevance? Make a different article proving that.
They don’t want to label halal meat, let alone ban its inhumane production in this country. They don’t care about the animals. Whatsoever.
There are no good studies I’ve seen on veganism altogether and vegetarian studies are fraught with method errors then environment – well, most new meat demand comes from China so you’re barking up the wrong tree. And their demand is only rising with their population boom.
That is not your imagination, Israel consumes BY FAR the most meat in the world (poultry value cinches it).
When are you shaming them, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Peru?
Are the Guardian calling on the UK government to reduce production in this country of Halal and Kosher meat (insufficiently or not at all stunned, torturing the animal?) and to stop selling it abroad, increasing cruel meat demand? No? Then they don’t care about the animals.
“Scientific research published this year found that without meat and dairy consumption, global farmland use could be reduced by more than 75% – an area equivalent to the US, China, the EU and Australia combined – and still feed the world.”
So who eats the most meat? Clue – not white people! Are we all meant to go on rations (worse than rations, majority food group eradication) for the supposed benefit of other people in the world who don’t?
Shaming people for eating, they’re totally serious.
BCD – children deserve to develop properly and adults require adequate nutrition for fertility, especially women. I’m shocked the feminists are too dense to twig that shaming dairy is heavily sexist against women.
Before someone who can’t google gets triggered at the word ‘sexist’…
“Researchers in the United States have found a link between a low-fat dairy diet and increased risk of anovulatory infertility.” For one study.
There is definitely a link between veganism (worse, no dairy) and female infertility which remains unexplored.
“In the drinks aisle, Waitrose singles out the popularity of organic wine.”
Alcohol is proven to permanently damage your DNA. Health reasons, huh? Not signalling?
Wine doesn’t have mental benefits over beer, either. It’s false stereotype.
“Waitrose’s managing director, Rob Collins, said: “Being mindful of how we live and eat has become a priority in today’s world. As we become increasingly mindful of our own health, the wellbeing of our family and that of the planet, we’re reshaping how we shop, cook and eat.””
Read: consume less food so your betters can consume more, for the good of socialist globalism.
It won’t make you stupider, that’s impossible….
“It was this new meat diet, full of densely-packed nutrients, that provided the catalyst for human evolution, particularly the growth of the brain…”
Fun fact: A lot of Hollywood goes vegan because it allows their body to handle more drug abuse.
“Is Your Medicine Vegan? Probably Not”
The Darwin Awards need a Vegan section.
“Some people avoid products that are tested on or derived from animals, but don’t feel drug-use, smoking, and the like are directly related to the issue of animal cruelty.”
Here’s an illustration of the issue I take with surveys on diet.
I hand-typed this.
2007 – 3618 adults
2009 – 3219 adults
2010 – 548 adults
2011 – 1031 adults
2012 – 1491 adults surveyed.
2007 – 3% vegetarian (more female), 2% vegan (more men).
2009 – 3% vegetarian, 5% partially (WTF is that? That’s normal).
2010 – 2% adults AND children vegetarian. Less than 1% vegan.
2011 – 2% adults AND children vegetarian. Less than 1% vegan.
2012 – 2% adults AND children vegetarian. Less than 1% vegan.
Opposite politics, reporting the same shoddy “data”.
Thinks that make you go Hmmmmm….
What propaganda? Fake news is banned.
You don’t need a phrase like that.
“As of 2016, Asia Pacific held the largest share of vegan consumers globally, with approximately nine percent of people following a vegan diet in this area.”
For global warming at least, plenty for profits.
They’re increasing demand by increasing production.
The problem with charging for plastic bags is you turn them into a status symbol. Psychology trumps global warming rhetoric, the global plastic use will go up, whatever they report for superficial reasons. Industrial uses of plastic exceed anything domestic, and Asia is the biggest user of plastics from the industrial side. It’s a drop in the ocean. Poor people will buy them in bulk out of spite because it’s a tax on not being pretentious enough to buy canvas. Slave-produced canvas. How ethical of our moral betters.
They’d charge you for breathing if they could, the Left already charge you for emissions work.
It’s the biggest con, you can charge for anything and get away with the tax if you claim it’s to ‘fight’ global warming – well, if the fight against drugs and terrorism don’t work, why should this? And why should we be fighting our own industrialization when China is going to do more anyway?
You know the one thing to cut emissions?
Ration flight hours per person.
No exemptions for the rich.
Since we’re equal.
The poor can sell them their own hours.
THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING
THE ICE CAPS ARE MELTING THE POLAR BEARS ARE DYING
please don’t look up the facts independently!
Their whole job and years of their life depend on this thing.
If a prediction fails, the hypothesis was wrong, all their predictions failed………..
Trump should post an infographic of all their predictions versus What Actually Happened.
Trump should imprison at least one weasel for academic fraud, the others will sing like canaries, it’s still not technically illegal so far despite involving the taxpayer.
Snow in the Sahara!
Falling like rays of judgemental sunshine.
The last time this happened, they were pushing global cooling.
Nothing like watching false piety dashed on the rocks of stubborn reality.
I put the shade in schadenfreude.
Allow me to sing you the song of my People.
It goes, if your predictions are shit, and you don’t know it, keep repeating it, idiot. If you believe, if you dream, if you weasel enough taxpayer money, maybe your magic thinking will change scientific reality!
I am not good with music. But at least I don’t make my living as a musician.
Where’s the snide post about the inconvenient truth  of Big Oil behind this on twitter?
Somehow Big Oil isn’t bumping him off or stopping his subsidies or meetings at the Pentagon. Are they the Big Cheese or the fat cat that gets the cream?
 They are remaking that trash, compacting it into a trashy nucleus of shit predictions.
Meanwhile, drink in the delicious irony.