A shrink on sexual harassment “can’t you take a compliment?”

It’s odd how men will admit women are sensitive about their appearance then continue to attack us on it.

Yeah, that’s bullying. Even in school, that is not flirting.

A delightful, common sense explanation.

In before autism;

If you DON’T ‘believe’ in sexual harassment – go to a gay bar on a Saturday.

See how long you last.

That is a woman’s life.

Men are lecherous pigs, regardless of sexuality. What does a lecherous woman look like? A man.

Since any reading this and disbelieving are cowards, simply ask every woman you know and care about (assuming any stuck around you) about their experiences. There are always experiences, regardless of ‘age’ and seeming ‘fuckability’. Don’t talk over them excusing it, just ask the question, shut up and listen.

Actually, 9/10 male rudeness is the inability to shut up and listen. There are studies.

OT Rape accusations imply guilt. A totally honest man needn’t fear them.

https://www.jeunesepayne.co.uk/single-post/2016/11/07/Sexual-Harassment-%E2%80%9CCan%E2%80%99t-you-take-a-compliment%E2%80%9D

“When someone shouts across the street at me “show us your cunt”, or even just wolf-whistles, it’s not because they think it’s going to make me feel good.

It’s a reminder that they could overpower and attack you. R-types don’t care for rule of law, Ks are respectful (either ignoring you in public or getting introductions the decent way).
I saw a very right-wing blog post an article about how the author could easily rape any woman he likes.
In quite graphic detail and practically frothing at the prospect. I don’t read that blog anymore.
This was supposed to scare us all straight (and into agreement with him).

Rape isn’t funny to women, it appalls us (ESPECIALLY the conservative ones), it’s worse than murder. Imagine getting castrated, male power stripped and stolen. Rape is worse for women, at the very least for the conception aspect. A man joking about rape is an r-type trying to pass for K (strong). Those are the worst.

When women see a man seriously laugh (not from shock, but enjoyment) at domestic abuse or whatever sexual ‘prank’ is going on, it would be like watching a woman laughing at a man gored on barbed wire in WW1. Our thought is always the same: what if that were me?

This is why women choose compassion in mate selection studies.

Which sex has the blacker humour?

“Can’t you take a joke?”

Is civilization a joke? They make me wonder.

This is why the right wing’s reputation suffers. Manwhores cosplaying Patriarchy. They seem to think it means concubines and slavery, rather than monogamy and industry.

As for the genuine conservatives…

If they can’t fuck it or kill it, they’re probably going to insult it.

It’s not a well-intended or genuine interaction. They’re not even under some misguided impression that such comments will make me want to have sex with them.

Some are truly that stupid.

Thought process as follows:

If I make her hate me, it’ll remind her of my mother/her father.

Presuming all fathers are incompetent (r-selected) as his. Another layer of insult.

Resent women? No! I simply happen to crush and abandon them all by sheer coincidence!
Distrust women? Sure! They made me leave them! Projection’s only real when women do it!

It’s simply an exertion of power. The aim is to get approval or laughter from others, and discomfort or gratitude from me.

That is better known as sadism.

It is caused by degenerate media, especially the supernormal stimuli of HD streaming online porn.
I guarantee you 100% of those males are porn addicts, the female leches too. The testosterone has to go somewhere, they lack the impulse control (hypofrontality) and time preference to do something good with it.

A compliment is something you would feel comfortable giving a man, woman, or child because you believe it would make them feel good. You’re not boosting anyone’s self-esteem by reminding them that, by society’s standards, “you look acceptable enough for me to fuck”.”

There is always the insult that your primary value is whether they’d use you as their whore.

They’re calling you a whore.

That’s what no woman will admit.

You’re soliciting women on the street. As a whore. But at least whores can charge.

They refuse to accept they’re being rude but they wouldn’t say it if children were present. They desperately want attention but project this onto the provocateur (and looking good isn’t an excuse for anything, is it?) although differing tastes apply, so you can’t even hide your attractiveness since they’ll always be someone Into That. [cough pervert cough]
In conclusion, blame porn. Speaking to people like that (a whore) might not even be acceptable in a purely sexual, private interaction. If they’re smart, they’d leave immediately. It’s demeaning, dehumanizing and morally bankrupt, like the source.

Provocateur is a word I use deliberately… it’s never applied to men, is it?
There’s no such thing as Adam Teasing and Taharrush ‘games’ go after… which sex?

Misandrist women avoid men but misogynistic men seek out women.

Hello, the bulk of MGTOW.

They seek women out to punish them [1]  for what is perceived (projection) as the other’s wrongdoing. It’s never them, never examine the self!!!

Sexual predators, sexual sadism.

I guess womb envy comes into it somewhere but mention that after they play the feminist ‘Penis Envy’ record for the millionth time and suddenly the concept might be shaky? [SJWs lie, r-types lie, logic is a lie to them, thinking is K]

1 Who are you? You can’t lose the chub and get a good job, get out of anyone’s face. At least join a church or Greeenpeace or something. A useful Crusade.

I know, I know.

“Yes, but –

What about men?”

…What about the men?

Where are the men when this happens? [2]

Women exist, women are the fair sex. Women will be sexually harassed as long as we live. Men need to police other men, we certainly can’t.

Think too of the racial and class angles.

Is this acceptable as a way to treat people in the first world?

2

Sign of an r-type male: when you defend a woman from attack (and attack it is), you get accused of White Knighting. Yes, but White Knights are a good thing (Ks) and protect other Ks from monsters…

They never speak to men that way, knowing the odds of an altercation. Cowards to boot. Sexual competition makes the rabbit flee. At times, they’ll use the term incorrectly (in defense of another r) as a compliment of her sexual quality (lie) to get her into bed. It uses triangulation, the common manipulation tactic. Are those men crazy? Probably male borderline, it’s under-diagnosed. It would explain their romantic or intimacy issues that can be masked socially to some extent. R-types fear intimacy because it leads to responsibility and commitment, turn-offs. R/K does neatly align with attachment conditions (anxious-avoidant, secure)…. with the Mother (Freud wins).

Another sign “why are women so easily offended?” [3]

Only the ones around you.

Hm.

Yes, it’s definitely us…

all three billion of us, currently. And they say women can’t do maths?

3

Prelude to gaslighting, All women are crazy bullshit. Pathologizing a problem makes it go away!

See also the classic “why won’t women-” do whatever Lord Fauntleroy wants?

Narcissistic entitlement brewing up to rage. Histrionic, effete rage.

Comics: Misogyny and the double standard

To answer the 21st Century question Why don’t women try anymore?

without any reference to the dwindling quality of men.

I tag ‘homophobia’ because this is an accurate depiction of the real, older definition, which requires you be slightly homosexual but in denial about it. Not to be confused with the scientific, older definition which is also homoaversion. Otherwise, the same men laughing when feminists go on about ‘stare rape’ wouldn’t give a damn who looks at them, because there’s no chance of sex, so why care?

It’s strange to hear men say lewd comments aren’t insults but then ask them about their own history being bullied and suddenly words are important. Lewd people are rude expressly because they want to get negative attention and make the other person uncomfortable, and that, is bullying.

Protip for the socially inept: say nothing to do with the body per se. E.g. ‘nice dress’ is fine, ‘nice tits’ is obscene. ‘Pretty face’ is OK, ‘sit on my face’ is not, ever. Nothing you would hear in porn. It makes non-porn stars reach for the pepper spray. Women have to be paid to pretend to enjoy that. Think about it.

It’s our verbal IQ and it’s higher than you i.e. we hear more in your words than you put there on purpose. Yes, while nice dress may be a sneaky way to compliment bustline – we know this. It’s about respect as a human, not as a woman per se. If you treat someone as a reduced category, you are literally demeaning them for likely little purpose. Yes, this applies to men, because men is a category below human, the whole species. You can notice this in the hackles that come up when I type ‘Men are…’. It’s mean and rude and usually pointless. If they can’t help it, why mention it? If they can help it, just tell them the positive thing to do instead. If you don’t want them to correct it, you have no cause to gripe, per se.

I use per se too much, per se. It is unhelpful…. per se.

To every man who questions this reasoning, start complimenting the femininity of his features, especially if he has a fine bosom, and when he gets offended, tell him he should take it as a compliment.

By their logic, if another man tells them they have a tight, nice, firm backside, they have no right to be offended or feel creeped out or forbid, in DANGER, because rape is never preluded by taunting the victim, right? I mean, who’d get off on that, some sort of sexual predator? Also, it was your fault for wearing jeans, they’re too tight.

The system is rigged. The system is un-fair. You cannot win.
Why don’t women try anymore?

The only way to win is not to play.

We don’t tend to play into male power-trip fantasies [1] anymore because the whole system is against everyone, including women, and things like MGTOW are the ragequit from ‘why don’t they…’, ‘why won’t they….’ questions. Answer? People have agency. Men, women, leave them be. It’s called respect for human dignity. That’s why they’re almost perma-single and can’t keep any woman long enough for the narcissism to pop up like oral herpes.

1 Fantasies rigged by richer men, in suits. The greatest enemy of mankind is man himself. Yet they sit around navel-gazing about hemlines like the Fashion Police and wonder why women won’t touch them.

Re the clothes themselves e.g. she’s showing too much skin/asking for it, conformity is a female virtue.

Compliments vs. catcalling

Basically you’re calling the woman a whore and we know it, that’s why we ignore you.

http://www.mademan.com/compliment-women-without-skeeze-catcaller-predator/

Most catcallers are like dogs chasing cars. They wouldn’t know what to do with one when they catch one. But it comes from a tradition of prostitution.  Langston Hughes wrote about it while reporting on the Spanish Civil War in his excellent autobiography I Wonder as I Wander:

There is an old Spanish custom taken for granted that a man may whistle or even speak to a pretty girl on the street without offense … Only loose women even turn around to acknowledge such compliments. But with revolutionary zeal, some of the more ardent Loyalists ladies in Spain set out to put an end to what they felt was “intrusive and uncomradely” in the traditional Spanish way of flirting.  Women, they said were workers and citizens just like me, not mere objects of sex, and so should not be subjected to personal remarks from unknown admirers on the public streets.

Which is to say: Catcalling has been out of style since before WWII.

Here is the most important thing to know about dating/life/humanity: “Men’s greatest fear is that women will laugh at them, while women’s greatest fear is that men will kill them.” Margaret Atwood said this.

If you feel you need to speak to a stranger, don’t speak to them when they might feel vulnerable (alone, dark, at night, in a dodgy area) and ideally, get introduced by their social circle. This goes for women speaking to men as well’ it’s called manners. If you wouldn’t go up to them when with their friends, you don’t deserve their company because you wouldn’t fit into their class, why make it awkward for them knowing they have to reject you? Yet the ghetto types, lowest SES of all, and criminals to boot (so actually a physical danger), try to impose themselves on women. Imagine being a high SES male, walking along in a suit on the way to work minding your own business, and the homeless guys or unemployed kept following you, talking about how nice your suit was (maybe touching it, despite your protests) and threatening to mug you (oh, the things I could do with that money…). Money being a synonym for your body. That’s how it feels. You can’t be friendly with someone, unless you’re already friends, already acquainted. Stop calling it ‘friendly’, when it’s imposing. Dictionaries exist.
On the other hand, I’ve heard men frequently complain of large groups of women judging them and bothering them when alone, especially hen parties….yes, that’s how it feels, exactly. Except approaching a group is a choice, and comes with the possibility of rejection. You take a chance, it’s going to happen, the higher you aim, the more it happens. No need to bitch about it, though.

In public, you are just a normal citizen, and your rights to personal space need be respected.
Dressing well and taking care of yourself is expected, it’s normal, it isn’t an invitation to strangers like a prostitute. Those women will talk to you.

OT: sexual remarks are not flirting, they’re rude. Flirting is subtle.

All the more attractive women find it insecure, they just assume a man is interested, they don’t need to be told. We can read body language. And the desperation of hitting on women from a class band out of their league makes it quite funny, that they think it might impress us? Since when has poor impulse control impressed rich people?

What women hear;

WE WANT ATTENTION.
GIVE ME ATTENTION.
YOU WON’T LOOK AT ME UNLESS I’M SHOUTING AT YOU.

Here’s how insults work (for SJWs)

tldr An insult is a function. If you take a term as offensive, it can be used to insult you. If you go further and broadcast which ones offend you most, don’t be shocked when the people you annoy use them. The more idiotic ones don’t realize, you don’t have to mean an insult for it to work. It can be a social signal that they are unwelcome in your company. There is a practical function, which can be devoid of genuine opinion or ill-feeling toward an individual. Appearance-based insults work best of all because they cannot be denied.

btw prime example, a nuclear option with a young feminist is to say: “you’ll calm down after the first baby”, I have never seen it fail because it hits all the nerves. All of them. Say it as the Tube doors are closing or in the moment before you can walk away completely, as in leaving a lift, leaving them in amygdal meltdown.

Quick Wisdom: Compliments and Insults

Compliments corrupt a person better than insults.

If you want to destroy someone, give them an inflated opinion of themselves and watch as they fail to live up to their own expectations. If you want to create something beautiful, you must begin with a foundation of realism because once you strip everything else away that is all that is left.

A beautiful outcome of these acceptance movements is that they will devour themselves from the inside.

Possible theories for the harmful effect of compliments: Spotlight Effect is increased, Self-efficacy is decreased, Ego grows and shift from growth strategy to maintaining social status e.g. as smart, instead of improvement strategy.