Link: Manosphere sour grapes

As other people mature and move on with their lives, there will always be people thinking they’re perma-18.

They are the creepers.

Manosphere sour grapes

I wondered why so many of those otherwise rational types* were single.

*Not the majority online.

Then I saw a video titled “Never date a girl older than 25”.

Like they have a choice?

Like those “girls” want them?

They think the world is a Lynx advert.

It’s about control, at least be honest. They’re impressed you have a car and went backpacking. You wanna be the cool one. They’ll put up with games because they’re still practically a child (brain).

What about when they hit 25? Ugh, r-types.

YOU CANNOT SIGNAL A STATUS YOU DO NOT HAVE.

IT DOES NOT WORK.

PSA.

Like all of women’s evolved circuits can be over-ridden by a well-written Tindr profile.

If you have to lie about your life, stop lying and fix it before surrounding yourself with more lies.

The big thing that attracts women is stability? Too beta? OK, be happy to die alone.

Or, don’t be shocked when you only attract the same quality level you are.

If you want to be too fussy to date a chubby, when those are the only women in your US area and level, then be fine with being alone. No gripes, it’s your choice. That is the red pill reality.

If you don’t need women, this shouldn’t matter.

They complain about reality e.g. she cares about my looks as much as I care about hers! while also claiming they want more, harsher realities.

Son, you can’t survive NOW.

The easiest society in HUMAN HISTORY. They fail at life.

It’s like how the chubby kid with a cheap katana begging for a zombie apocalypse wouldn’t last 15 minutes of running. Women can see this. Delusion is creepy. It’s also creepy in dumpy ghetto trash who thinks she can get a famous rapper. Men ignore them too. Class is the thing Americans never discuss.

The world won’t re-arrange itself to help you, this isn’t the Secret.

If they managed to luck into gaining a classy date, they’d find fault (avoidant attachment) or screw it up (cheating, abandonment). They’re just fuck-ups.

They do it in career too.

Most who go there and stay for years and years are jerks and become self-sabotaging jerks. Karma. The same life plan won’t work years later. You need to evolve.

Consider their percentage of a population, <0.1%. There’s just something wrong with a lot of them, statistically. They’re the dregs who would’ve died in a war. Since we have no war, it’s like the Indian men acting up.

They won’t go to a therapist so they don’t actually care about their own happiness.

Why should we?

Other men manage it. Other men can be happy. Stop taking marriage advice from men who hate women and hate marriage, for starters? #commonsense

Another thing, a man who never wants to marry, is useless to a woman who does. And wants to have kids and do the whole thing. Useless. Another big reason they’re rejected. Maybe a phobia, maybe something else.

How can you spot a bad lover?

https://old.reddit.com/r/NotHowGirlsWork/comments/8mpz8s/mgtow_think_orgasms_are_unhealthy_for_women/

Wow.

Later, sobbing: why do women treat me like I hate them? Why do they avoid me like a humanoid plague of repulsion?

A minor point a man would be unlikely to notice: the focal point of sex is not counting orgasms like a top score.
Literally all these males have to offer is a penis and none of the masculinity that makes it worthwhile to a woman. That would be dissatisfying enough to make a nympho unresponsive.
If you aren’t skilled enough to help one woman, all the rest were faking. Manual skills with your tongue or hands don’t just disappear and a good lover knows the same technique won’t work on everyone or all the time, they have range (like a dancer). Who wants to tell him they did it to shut him up?

They rarely leave the woman after a short time, she Nexts them because they’re bad in bed.

Why aren’t men fighting for the West?

They’re drugging themselves with male victory soma – steroids.
If they feel the complacency (and entitlement) of the victor, why bother?

(The testosterone released by compulsive masturbators has the same effect, teenage boys used to have more motivation when it was discouraged, SJWs noticed).

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-319-02904-7_12

Testosterone is the dominant hormone in both male and female brains.

regulates the turnover of the social monoamines, dopamine and serotonin.

They’re happy pills, indirect happy pills.
For people too proud to admit they’re depressed.

The hormone also has many other actions in the brain; thus the social brain’s main chemical, without exaggeration, is testosterone

Peterson told you none of this.

 investigate social dominance and trustworthiness behaviors

Whatever I say, they’ll insult me.

Losers.

….

Actually, why do I care what they think? Who else does?

Fine. If you need to get energy from drugs, and don’t see that as a problem to be dropped at some point, you’re as bad a degenerate as the people you insult. Why do you think they’re doing it??

(Also: why r-types do drugs. There’s nothing intellectual about it. To avoid negative consequences, they get high or drunk or laid again, to avoid the experience’s outcome and the need to learn from it).

Guardian test, they’re doing it. For the “energy” = narc supply.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/31/rise-in-middle-aged-men-taking-steroids-to-feel-more-youthful-experts-say

But women don’t care about looks, huh….. keep telling yourself that.

At best, you’re the Beautiful Ones. Still unfit and not masculine.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9624002?dopt=Abstract

Studies in animals have implicated the amygdala in emotional and social behaviours, especially those related to fear and aggression. Although lesion and functional imaging studies in humans have demonstrated the amygdala’s participation in recognizing emotional facial expressions, its role in human social behaviour has remained unclear. We report here our investigation into the hypothesis that the human amygdala is required for accurate social judgments of other individuals on the basis of their facial appearance. We asked three subjects with complete bilateral amygdala damage to judge faces of unfamiliar people with respect to two attributes important in real-life social encounters: approachability and trustworthiness. All three subjects judged unfamiliar individuals to be more approachable and more trustworthy than did control subjects.The impairment was most striking for faces to which normal subjects assign the most negative ratings: unapproachable and untrustworthy looking individuals. Additional investigations revealed that the impairment does not extend to judging verbal descriptions of people. The amygdala appears to be an important component of the neural systems that help retrieve socially relevant knowledge on the basis of facial appearance.

r-types

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12948440

Basolateral amygdala and orbitofrontal cortex are implicated in cue-outcome learning. In this issue of Neuron, Schoenbaum et al. show that, following basolateral amygdala lesions, cue-selective neurons in orbitofrontal cortex are more sensory driven and less sensitive to the motivational value of an outcome, suggesting that predictive value coding in orbitofrontal cortex is dependent on input from basolateral amygdala.

They’re conditioning themselves for pathological altruism.

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2018/05/06/why-does-shunning-make-locusts-leave/

By making your brain happy, you make it dumber.

It’s the illusion of safety. Your body assumes the threat is dead.

Your body also produces less of a thing when you supplement. Basic biology.
So men and women shouldn’t take any sex hormones unless they produce zero.

If your levels are normal (for your AGE, Peter Pan), you’re poisoning yourself.

https://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/cognoculture/testosterone_and_human_aggression_or_180520

 Yet others still have suggested that hypogonadal males (a.k.a low testosterone-producing males) who had their testosterone increased saw no jump in aggressive behaviour, and in fact became more friendly, energetic and, well, happy.

Cucks.

If you’re being treated badly, the chemical suffering is vital to fixing that. It’s like cutting off nerves, they’ve deadened their sense of injustice.

Notice how when men get power, they become over-friendly and obliging?

Ah, they say, but wouldn’t this also occur in women?

 The result: the women who had received testosterone without knowing became fairer, more generous and had increased efficiency in social interactions, while the other group (those who had been told that they were receiving testosterone) behaved much more unfairly. In sum: one group acted they way they thought testosterone should affect humans (and it wasn’t pretty). But the reality was much different. Case and point, ladies and gentlemen.

Notice how many pathological altruist women are high-T? And middle-class?

You’re buying the chemical fake equivalent of class. I cannot think of anything more indicative of a loser.

I used to think it was the broke guy with a sportscar.

If anyone’s doping T, it should be women. It makes us nicer and better looking. When we produce less naturally, no loss.

It’s always the “inferior” men who abuse women, isn’t it? They seem to be lacking in T.
In civilization, status is conferred to men who cooperate. Killers get wiped out quickly.

How women feel being chatted up

Picture the bus or train creep.

They act like you engaged them in a conversation. That, or you owe them in their mind because forming a sentence is the new standard of bravery for numales. 0-60 or you’re a “bitch”, or, ironically a “whore”, which is who they should be soliciting for that. (Why don’t women like modern men? Maybe because you won’t stop insulting us for having human boundaries?)
Like a dog with a chew toy, they refuse to let you politely leave.
Nothing is more inane than how much they supposedly lift, how much they supposedly make, how good a ____ they supposedly are…

Inwardly:

This applies even if we fancy you at first. The interest level drops. Modern men are more vapid than the average woman in any previous time period. We’re instinctively repulsed by this. Men needed courting so we could slowly care about your bullshit.
What do you think the common whine ‘but he’s different!’ is referring to?

You’re insulting us. We aren’t shallow. You clearly are (with men, it’s science and porn doesn’t help). You get rejected. You call us shallow, despite turning down someone superficially a good catch. You brought it up?

Do you cuss out companies if they don’t select you for a job?

No, that would be stupid. Women talk, so this isn’t any less stupid.

Related to the deceptive guy who claims to be friendzoned (you said you just wanted to be friends, you said you didn’t want to date, you invited hang-outs…) mixed messages weirdos, becoming an ogre that totally justifies your rapedar instinct in .5 milliseconds – you were never in the running because women cannot think with a penis we do not have

At least they can’t complain of something else like strangerzoned. Entitled prissy bitches. It has never been socially acceptable to solicit people in the street. You aren’t arrested, that doesn’t make it normal or acceptable. You’re signalling that you lack social connections or skills to get any woman to pay social attention to you without chasing her. Literally, physically stalking her down a street and yes, it is stalking. At most, they offer you their number, you don’t have to ask. This is how socializing works and you don’t automatically assume it’s a sexual thing. Not everyone is desperate or looking.

OR

this, the apex of the loser pyramid

No means no but no also means fuck off when you have to repeat it.

You can’t change it. It’s biologically impossible. In thinking you can change it, there’s something wrong with you or you’re a rapist who doesn’t actually care what the lady thinks.

Inwardly:

We have a phrase “…who are you?” trans. for Americans: you are nothing to me, leave me alone.

It’s the original stay in your lane. Bosses use it too, it isn’t sexual. It can also mean stop talking if a person must be in a meeting room. It works by the power of awkward silence and body language, like …women.

Then after intruding on personal space in public (every society has rules), being rude repeatedly and trying to force interactions (up to physical contact, unwanted, unsolicited, technically illegal*), you present us with a choice to accept this hostile takeover bid or reject you.

Yes, I wonder why the rejection rate for cold approaches is almost 100%.

It’s a mystery for all of time.

I have witnessed women troll men who come up to them. Wastehistime was a response to wastehertime, if you look it up. As in, if you want to play emotional head games, women will win. I don’t advocate talking to anyone this desperate because as well as verbal hostility (ugly) they are probably literally violent.

Ask yourself, since male upper body strength is twice that of women, approximately the same divide as regular men to NFL players;

Why should we have to let down gently an entitled stranger who wasn’t smacked as a child?

…Exactly, they’re not our problem. We escape the situation.

The men complaining about women who complain about harassment is like playing spot the vegan but reducing your rape odds. They could go to a gay bar for a month and report on what it’s like…..? They never do.

What to do?

Don’t approach strangers randomly. We can see the stink lines of desperation. We’re embarrassed for you. Think: do they talk to me like a child? Well, you don’t know this is something humans don’t do. So yeah. Valid.

*you can’t just go up grabbing people, that’s assault
if it’s only friendly, you’d do it with men as often

You want a connection, expand your friend groups. Yes, hard work, like all relationships. This also controls for people on your own level who will respond to you.

Note:

Bitch is now a compliment solely because these losers have changed the accepted definition of it.

Will the entitlement ever end?

Whatever happened to your rights ending at the end of your fist? They’re so easily triggered. They’re like the critics of The Kiss (1896).

It’s a fine example of the new, hipster misuse of the word degenerate – applied to anything prosocial and harmless that provokes envy.

You know what is degenerate? Wanting a woman only for sex and never wanting to marry and reproduce. That is subhuman, that’s the level of a dog in heat, except the dog understands experienced feedback and No.

You can have as many degenerate little orgasms as you like, but you can’t force other people to like you, male or female.

We used to ban PDA and media portrayals of physical affection (ah, but they never wanna do that!), and men also had to marry. Trust me, you don’t wanna go back to those archaic dictates.

Men wore high heels and makeup first. You still can. You can also tell off couples heavy on PDA but they’re cowards.

We used to have precise clothing laws.

Women will always look like women (secondary sexual characteristics) because they’ll always be women, and hence attractive to men whatever they wear. What about female incels? They must exist. For their feelings, let’s ban all fit men from showing off their biceps.

Nobody wants to see your gut or your hideous beard, adopt a hijab, I demand it.

It’s vapid to only want sex. If women were sluts, they would be sleeping with you. No such thing as a choosy slut. As for ‘giving them a chance’, oh, like equality of outcomes? A pussy isn’t the lottery. Keep your balls to yourself and understand the line of exhibitionism.

There has never been an affirmative action for sex. It isn’t something you deserve, this isn’t a lollipop at the dentist.

Why do you feel entitled to sexual favours? Isn’t that a personal weakness?

Forced marriages (forced sex = rape) didn’t operate to a higher SMV woman, they’d be shocked and repulsed by their own level. Learn to suck your own dick or go gay, those are your options. Most gay guys close their eyes and pretend it’s someone else, appreciate the ‘feminine peen’.

God forbid you grow an adult personality and come out of the egocentric toddler phase.

Typical r-types, embittered and with only two approaches – the lying way (nice guy routine) and the Fine, I’ll force you way. The r must stand for budding rapist.

So-called Incels: memememememememe mememe me

…Why am I single?

You whine like a baby. I hope nobody wants to fuck that.

These “men” are the result of parental incompetence. Possibly schizoids so terrified of intimacy they spend all day fantasizing about being a manwhore and projecting that whorishness onto women. Typical NPD raging too.

They aren’t losers because they’re men. They aren’t even losers because they get no sex.

Also, get? Phrasing.

They’re losers because they aren’t men and finger sex (sorry) as the problem.

Wrong one!

They’re male bunny-boilers, that much is clear, so possibly male borderlines. There’s quite a range. Wanting someone to die/get raped/be scarred/permanently unhappy is beyond bullying. Envy is evil. Spree killers are just signalling they’re dead-ends, and the worst choice of mate – rejecting suspected ones becomes justified.

If your response to rejection is pathological, rejection will increase because you’re the problem.

LA never disappoints

They have full range.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/white-men-are-our-greatest-allies-they-hate-white-women-as-much-as-we-do-they-love-women-of-color.1212566/#post-31772662

I would like to point out that white men are our greatest allies. Yes, 62% of white men voted for Trump, but that is expected of them. The largest betrayal was 53% of white women voting for Trump. I hate them so much; the world would be a better place if white women all died, quite frankly. This includes the ones who are married to men of color like Madchen Amick and Ali Landry.
The 38% of white men who did not vote for Trump are our biggest allies because they truly have the power in the world. They are educated, wealthy, handsome, and successful. They use their power to uplift all minorities and they are passing on their wealth to minorities by marrying women of color.”

What White Fever?
Speaking of Our Men

you seem pressed.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/plain-looking-american-woman-in-japan-is-sad-that-she-cant-get-attention-poordat.832407/page-12#post-20912124

Anyway, I disagree. I hate white women (most are unattractive, envious, entitled, jealous), but I like most white men. I think white men are fine with their power crumbling. That’s why they date out the most. Their children with their nonwhite wives will obviously be nonwhite, too, and they will pass whatever wealth, assets, and benefits they have to those nonwhite children. They are contributing to the diminishing of the white supremacy structure and that’s a good thing.
Besides, white men are preferred by most. They have no reason to be insecure or envious of other men since they are the top of the food chain. White women, on the other hand, do … since not even their own men prefer them. They are trashed across the Internet, but white men are not. There are Tumblrs, threads, and other sites dedicated to white men who are with women of other races. There are NO things such as that dedicated to white women.”

This is what they really think about your Yellow Fever arse, they’re winning the gender war and the white genocide one. They are 100% woke on it. So when I see white men start insulting his own race bc Feminism, I want to strangle him for entirely justified reasons.
Race traitors sell us out.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/xfa-blog-entry/blog-53-abuse-what-happens-when-you-argue-with-a-narcissist.4918/
Then there are great posts.
The key is to never show a narcissist you’re being harmed by them. Negative people who want to bring about discord to pacify their inner chaos do not know how to respond to kindness and calmness. For them, it is an impenetrable barrier. They only know one thing and that is to create discord and see you suffer as a result. If they do not have their reaction, in either situation, they become absolutely powerless and they’ll show you what lies beneath without being able to control it. The vexation and agitation will build up in them to such an intent, that it’ll be a catastrophic explosion of rage etc that will obliterate the mask, the facade and hidden agenda.”

“The best advice posted in this blog is to emotionally detach and be unreachable. Be the unruly character that won’t be pigeonholed. This unnerves them to the core. When approached, I become Mr Spock, I don’t emote and I make them feel like they are being inspected and studied so that they avoid me. Ha!
They’re automatons, formulaic machines. Their response to seeing you pressed for time, rushing is to engage you by offering salutations and conversations to covertly frustrate you. If you nod while keeping it moving, you’ve ad libbed and gone off script!”

Hello bitch shield my old friend….

Things only attractive women know. They prey on politeness. But you’re not obliged to talk to strangers, actually – you’re not supposed to?
If they can’t be introduced via work or social circle, there’s a class conflict anyway.
Don’t bother with a Federline. REMEMBER FEDERLINE.

never 4get

Like, the fullest range.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/instagram-th-ts-before-and-after-head-transplant-russian-edition.950189/page-27#post-30874353

“These girls are gorgeous, now. But, what I thought was hilarious is what I heard from a guy.. he said something I never thought of.
These men marry a stunning beauty, but they don’t realize they’re in for a huge shock when their kids come out with the features of her real face. Classic.”
10/10

Beauty is an advert for genes.

“Generally, I tend to have an idea on what sort of surgeries these women have had but I didn’t realize that some were getting lower eyelid surgeries and lip implants. I’m not sure if the video is in Russian or Ukrainian but I know it’s one of the two. ”
White women do the fake femininity thing too.
I didn’t post before because I hadn’t found fitting examples until now, I’m not excluding my own race.

Not a patch on Aaliyah, if we’re comparing races.

It’s a mistake I’ve pointed out before to apply individual judgements based on group-level differences.
The world doesn’t work like that, you have to look at the individual. If the group is SO (thing) then the individual will be too.

“The Russians sure do know how to do some lips. They need to bring their ass over here so these white housewives can stop hurting my eyesight.”


“The Koreans are the wizards of plastic surgery. If OP does a thread for them, you’d better be sitting down while you scroll. The Russians come in close second and the Brazilians are third.”

Men need to be informed.

See? I’m not being racist (today), I’m being bitchy. All races are doing this, but in different ways and I think it shits on various men from different heights. That is wrong.

A shrink on sexual harassment “can’t you take a compliment?”

It’s odd how men will admit women are sensitive about their appearance then continue to attack us on it.

Yeah, that’s bullying. Even in school, that is not flirting.

A delightful, common sense explanation.

In before autism;

If you DON’T ‘believe’ in sexual harassment – go to a gay bar on a Saturday.

See how long you last.

That is a woman’s life.

Men are lecherous pigs, regardless of sexuality. What does a lecherous woman look like? A man.

Since any reading this and disbelieving are cowards, simply ask every woman you know and care about (assuming any stuck around you) about their experiences. There are always experiences, regardless of ‘age’ and seeming ‘fuckability’. Don’t talk over them excusing it, just ask the question, shut up and listen.

Actually, 9/10 male rudeness is the inability to shut up and listen. There are studies.

OT Rape accusations imply guilt. A totally honest man needn’t fear them.

https://www.jeunesepayne.co.uk/single-post/2016/11/07/Sexual-Harassment-%E2%80%9CCan%E2%80%99t-you-take-a-compliment%E2%80%9D

“When someone shouts across the street at me “show us your cunt”, or even just wolf-whistles, it’s not because they think it’s going to make me feel good.

It’s a reminder that they could overpower and attack you. R-types don’t care for rule of law, Ks are respectful (either ignoring you in public or getting introductions the decent way).
I saw a very right-wing blog post an article about how the author could easily rape any woman he likes.
In quite graphic detail and practically frothing at the prospect. I don’t read that blog anymore.
This was supposed to scare us all straight (and into agreement with him).

Rape isn’t funny to women, it appalls us (ESPECIALLY the conservative ones), it’s worse than murder. Imagine getting castrated, male power stripped and stolen. Rape is worse for women, at the very least for the conception aspect. A man joking about rape is an r-type trying to pass for K (strong). Those are the worst.

When women see a man seriously laugh (not from shock, but enjoyment) at domestic abuse or whatever sexual ‘prank’ is going on, it would be like watching a woman laughing at a man gored on barbed wire in WW1. Our thought is always the same: what if that were me?

This is why women choose compassion in mate selection studies.

Which sex has the blacker humour?

“Can’t you take a joke?”

Is civilization a joke? They make me wonder.

This is why the right wing’s reputation suffers. Manwhores cosplaying Patriarchy. They seem to think it means concubines and slavery, rather than monogamy and industry.

As for the genuine conservatives…

If they can’t fuck it or kill it, they’re probably going to insult it.

It’s not a well-intended or genuine interaction. They’re not even under some misguided impression that such comments will make me want to have sex with them.

Some are truly that stupid.

Thought process as follows:

If I make her hate me, it’ll remind her of my mother/her father.

Presuming all fathers are incompetent (r-selected) as his. Another layer of insult.

Resent women? No! I simply happen to crush and abandon them all by sheer coincidence!
Distrust women? Sure! They made me leave them! Projection’s only real when women do it!

It’s simply an exertion of power. The aim is to get approval or laughter from others, and discomfort or gratitude from me.

That is better known as sadism.

It is caused by degenerate media, especially the supernormal stimuli of HD streaming online porn.
I guarantee you 100% of those males are porn addicts, the female leches too. The testosterone has to go somewhere, they lack the impulse control (hypofrontality) and time preference to do something good with it.

A compliment is something you would feel comfortable giving a man, woman, or child because you believe it would make them feel good. You’re not boosting anyone’s self-esteem by reminding them that, by society’s standards, “you look acceptable enough for me to fuck”.”

There is always the insult that your primary value is whether they’d use you as their whore.

They’re calling you a whore.

That’s what no woman will admit.

You’re soliciting women on the street. As a whore. But at least whores can charge.

They refuse to accept they’re being rude but they wouldn’t say it if children were present. They desperately want attention but project this onto the provocateur (and looking good isn’t an excuse for anything, is it?) although differing tastes apply, so you can’t even hide your attractiveness since they’ll always be someone Into That. [cough pervert cough]
In conclusion, blame porn. Speaking to people like that (a whore) might not even be acceptable in a purely sexual, private interaction. If they’re smart, they’d leave immediately. It’s demeaning, dehumanizing and morally bankrupt, like the source.

Provocateur is a word I use deliberately… it’s never applied to men, is it?
There’s no such thing as Adam Teasing and Taharrush ‘games’ go after… which sex?

Misandrist women avoid men but misogynistic men seek out women.

Hello, the bulk of MGTOW.

They seek women out to punish them [1]  for what is perceived (projection) as the other’s wrongdoing. It’s never them, never examine the self!!!

Sexual predators, sexual sadism.

I guess womb envy comes into it somewhere but mention that after they play the feminist ‘Penis Envy’ record for the millionth time and suddenly the concept might be shaky? [SJWs lie, r-types lie, logic is a lie to them, thinking is K]

1 Who are you? You can’t lose the chub and get a good job, get out of anyone’s face. At least join a church or Greeenpeace or something. A useful Crusade.

I know, I know.

“Yes, but –

What about men?”

…What about the men?

Where are the men when this happens? [2]

Women exist, women are the fair sex. Women will be sexually harassed as long as we live. Men need to police other men, we certainly can’t.

Think too of the racial and class angles.

Is this acceptable as a way to treat people in the first world?

2

Sign of an r-type male: when you defend a woman from attack (and attack it is), you get accused of White Knighting. Yes, but White Knights are a good thing (Ks) and protect other Ks from monsters…

They never speak to men that way, knowing the odds of an altercation. Cowards to boot. Sexual competition makes the rabbit flee. At times, they’ll use the term incorrectly (in defense of another r) as a compliment of her sexual quality (lie) to get her into bed. It uses triangulation, the common manipulation tactic. Are those men crazy? Probably male borderline, it’s under-diagnosed. It would explain their romantic or intimacy issues that can be masked socially to some extent. R-types fear intimacy because it leads to responsibility and commitment, turn-offs. R/K does neatly align with attachment conditions (anxious-avoidant, secure)…. with the Mother (Freud wins).

Another sign “why are women so easily offended?” [3]

Only the ones around you.

Hm.

Yes, it’s definitely us…

all three billion of us, currently. And they say women can’t do maths?

3

Prelude to gaslighting, All women are crazy bullshit. Pathologizing a problem makes it go away!

See also the classic “why won’t women-” do whatever Lord Fauntleroy wants?

Narcissistic entitlement brewing up to rage. Histrionic, effete rage.

Racial realities, mixed race fertility and Neanderthals

Hope you poured a drink you could prop a spoon in.

I found stuff by accident again.

http://www.academia.edu/542911/Neanderthal-human_hybrids

Neanderthal women couldn’t conceive with humans.

Different species.

It would be interesting to see if there are fertility problems between races…

I thought.
Google autocompletes “are mixed race less fertile”
Interesting.

Rumours that Asians and Africans have more trouble with IVF, even among those who already need IVF.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/business-transparency/freedom-of-information/what-can-i-request/previous-foi-requests/health-and-social-care/information-regarding-mixed-race-parentage/index.html

Infertility information isn’t gathered, which sounds weird for a data-mining project???
They collect the differing types of data but somehow can’t put them together? I call BS.

http://sociobiologicalmusings.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/problems-with-mixed-race-marriages-and.html
Cavalli-Sforza’s genetic distances.
I knew HBD would have the answer.

“It is almost the equivalent to having twice the number of children… Thus assortative mating by ethnicity can have large fitness benefits, the largest derived from choosing mates within geographic races.”

they pass on more of themselves, less genetic death per carrier (child)
May increase the values for Ks in parental investment theory.

“In other words and general terms, a white mother will be almost as twice as closely related to a child with a white father versus a child with a black father.”

Bear in mind, this isn’t opinion. It’s genetic.

“But when I turn to the mirror in my bedroom to admire us together, I am shocked. She seems so alien.”
LOL
The non-white always benefits far in excess due to dominating the white phenotypes.
They’re hoping to reduce their mutation load/disease risk. The white party loses.

“But still, I can’t shake off the feeling of unease. I didn’t realise how much her looking different would matter… When she was born, pale but with lots of dark hair, I asked the midwife if her eyes would stay blue. ‘Asian genes are very strong,’ she said in what I took to be an ominous tone. No more Brady Bunch kids for me. The midwife has been proved right and every day my baby’s eyes get a little darker.””

Wow so Nazi to insist your daughter look like you. /s
WTF do these r-types expect?

“Since parents share fewer genes with mixed-race children, people involved in interracial marriages are short-changing their own genes, which might explain why people engaged in mixed-race relationships often tend to have lower mate value.”

oh yeah
they signal how they can’t get one of their own so they settled
we all know how attractive desperation is, socially and sexually

“In general, mixed-race people have more health problems.”
The hybrid vigour thing was always a lie, it’s reduced fitness.
According to the field of medicine.

In other words, an argument could be made that mixed-race families are maladaptive — both for the parents and the children — and undermine one’s genetic interests. As noted by various commenters, multiracial families often do not possess the harmony, cooperation and purposefulness of same-race families, because mixed-race families lack the focus of genetic investment and returns that same-race families possess.”

Like a kind of …selection…

White British genes best at IVF *hums national anthem*

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160818212907.htm
“The study also found that some groups of women including South Asian Bangladeshi, Black African, Middle Eastern, have a significantly lower number of eggs collected than White British women.”
weeaboos lament
“Furthermore, the increased prevalence of polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) in south Asian women may have an impact on egg quality and lower implantation rates.”
“The data suggests that ethnicity is a major independent factor determining the chances of IVF or ICSI treatment success.”
No shit Sherlock. Could it be something of a biological thing going on here…?
“While the reason for this association is difficult to explain, the potential factors could be the observed differences in cause of infertility, ovarian response, fertilisation rates and implantation rates, which are all independent predictors of IVF success.”
Difficult? Awkward.
“”Infertility affects 10-15% of the population and more people are seeking fertility treatment.”
Isn’t that approaching the rate of mixed race couples? Coincidence, I’m sure. I’d like to check but nobody gives enough of a damn about them to collect the data.
“The reasons behind the variation need to be looked at in more detail but in the future could potentially help improve success rates amongst all groups of women.””
Not if it’s genetic.

Another study!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131029220758.htm
“live birth rates of ethnic women were significantly lower”

White women healthiest post-birth
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130211102222.htm
almost like an evolved advantage…

Disgust toward mixed-race couples at biological level
https://phys.org/news/2016-08-bias-disgust-mixed-race-couples.html
“”That indicates that viewing images of interracial couples evokes disgust at a neural level,” Skinner said.”
“Participants were quicker to associate interracial couples with non-human animals and same-race couples with humans.”
lol
do you ‘fucking love science’ now?

Mixed race babies weaker babies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2867623/
“contribute to the substantially higher demonstrated risk for stillbirth”
it’s healthy! they tell you
only because they aren’t collecting the data to argue otherwise
I would sue because that’s academic neglect and actual systemic racism.

You really have to search even for data on successful births, then there’s NO fitness advantage by rate.
http://paa2012.princeton.edu/papers/122287
“This paper investigates whether mixed race couples have different or same fertility level than same race couples”
“Same race couples have on average 1.93 children while mixed couples have 2.05 children. Same race couples have lower fertility because the majority of those couples are white. This data shows that homo and heterogamous unions do not have the same fertility level”
“Mixed race couples have fertility levels that fall in between same race couples; not as high as black or brown couples but not as low as the white couple.”
Regression to the mean, my old friend.

Ya gotta really LOOK.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/obgyn/pregnancy/11111
Oh look, mutation load.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-harder-for-interracial-couples-to-conceive
“I can’t find any studies on this at all.”
Red flag to ANYONE else?
“I heard from student of medicine that interracial couples could have problem conceiving child because of their racial differences.”
Why not study it?
They’re screwing over the mixed-race kids.
Possibly killing them, in the long run. That’s just sick, not to study it. Parents deserve to know.

The manosphere dudes with Yellow Fever won’t be pleased.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2008/10/the-prenatal-wages-of-interracial-relationships/
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-10/sumc-acf092508.php
“In both of these cases there isn’t something mystical going on; God is not smiting those who are sinning by crossing racial lines. Human spontaneous abortion rates are high. Much of this might be due to mother-child immune system responses. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that people from very genetically distinct populations have very different immune profiles. …”
It does if they grow up hearing everyone is biologically equal.
There is some data which might suggest that genetic relatedness increases reproductive fitness, possibly because of reduced risk of immune incompatibilities between mother and fetus when the father is more closely related to the mother. It stands to reason then that as the father becomes more genetically distant the likelihood of incompatibilities might increase. All of this means that genes matter, and they matter in ways we can possibly predict.”

Then predict.

Do the science.

Your JOB.

http://brembs.net/hamilton/
Irony, the name.
K-selected cooperation in a formula.

Inbreeding is generally better than outbreeding due to inclusive fitness.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1088844/
applies to other species too
As long as you don’t screw close relations and over many generations, you’re fine.

Wasps! That’s the depth of the barrel I scrape for data on this. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear!
https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/22/2/337/208104/Reproductive-skew-is-highly-variable-and
Because for some reason nobody takes the data in humans.
Some strange, open-minded reason.
They find cooperation. In insects.

Needs more genetics, more studies. Generally correct.