The guys who complain about make-up

are also the ones who’d complain if a woman smells like anything other than floral body lotion.

Like, they’ll criticize women for being fat but also being “high maintenance” i.e. not fat.

Nah-uh!

By ancient standards, you’re more decadent than a French king.

Think how poofy you’d be.

 

You sleep on fluffy pillows, on stitched mattresses, with plush blankets, having used liquid soap, shampoo, conditioner, toothpaste, deodorant, a comb, an electric razor, central heating/air conditioning, with a glass of cold milk waiting in your refrigerator if you wake up thirsty. You think this is nothing and feel entitled to this and more.

 

Who’s the vain one? When are these guys dispensing with all their vanities?

First up, the smartphone! Ultimate vanity symbol! Don’t need that!

Right….?

Right guys?

No, you won’t give up modern comforts so STFU lecturing everyone else.

Do it yourself first and then you might have something to signal with.

 

Being attractive isn’t a sin! These embittered boys are like SJWs and want everyone else to stop making an effort because they’re too lazy! (Covert narcissism, their ego is triggered because they stand out for not making the effort).
R-types want an equalist playing field, remember? Equal outcomes. They actually believe it’s better we’re all equal in stench and skin ailments (skin cancer exists) than feel insecure some dude next to them on the train is wearing nice jeans and a cool cologne.
Men against make-up, for a third-world society looking and smelling like shit.
It already does, in my opinion, let’s not make it worse. The average person makes less effort with their appearance than at any time period before in all human history.
Fashion history exists, whether you read it or not.
Porn taught you “make-up” (please define make-up, guys who can’t spot eyeliner) is a sexual invite and you’re pissed the fiction is fake. That isn’t the world’s fault. That’s your fault for being dumb. (They also think natural beauty is a sexual invitation because addicts are gullible idiots).
What other people look like and how they groom their body has nothing to do with you. Stop being so shallow and obsessing over it.
Grooming is a basic primate instinct. If you don’t have it, you’re clinically depressed.
They look at a naturally pretty girl and think she’s a bitch for wearing lipstick – who’s sinning here?
Jesus himself went off on one at the person who dared call his oil bath vain. There is a spiritual bond between how we treat ourselves (with respect) and how we act in the world (decently).
How dare any of you Americans (and it’s always Americans) shame people about simple standards of appearance?
I’ve been to your country enough times to know you have Fuck-All to be proud of in the appearance stakes.
Romans 12:1, NKJV. “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service
1 Corinthians 10:31, NKJV. “Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.”
I Corinthians 6:19-20, NKJV. “Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.”
And there’s nothing sinful about having a woman’s body either, God made that too. To insult a woman’s natural form is to blaspheme God’s design.
Genesis 1:27, NKJV. “So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.”
Beautification is not a sin, and never has been (there are plenty of Biblical references about good, moral wives looking good too and being the pride of their husbands) it’s about a First World living standard and a longer lifespan, pride is the sin. Like presuming to judge other’s non-silicon appearance and the body/Temple God gave them…
If you look at the history of cosmetics, it’s always been primarily about health because, guess what? Healthy people are more attractive! Cosmeceuticals are not a new thing! Only in the past couple of centuries have they been separated off. Why? Legal reasons. Lower standards for non-medical products to hit the market or that they couldn’t prove the really subjective claims e.g. radiant smile. What’s that? How do you medically prove that?
These would be the “men” who attack other men for wanting to make the best of their appearance.
Leave them alone and join a pro-ugly group, you losers.
Sorry attractive people enjoying their life make you sad, but this isn’t a company’s fault, it’s evolution. [Explain sexual selection without attractiveness, I fucking dare you.]
Since it’s none of your business unless it’s your wife, join a monastery if attractive things frighten you. Do you balk at flowers and smiling babies too?
If everyone went back to smelling like ass and swamp crotch, you’d still be bottom of the barrel and whine about it. Fitness still exists.
Sports are as decadent as Hollywood but the guys claiming models shouldn’t be paid for what nature gave them never ever apply that logic to the genetic freaks known as athletes.
They’d only be happy in the world of Harrison Bergeron because pretty people couldn’t oppress them by comparison. Dya wanna ban Photoshop too? You do, don’t you?
It’s basic etiquette to look good and act good too.
This isn’t an either/or, don’t try to spin a false dichotomy out of this.
Looking like a slob is a sin as much as being it. It’s literally a sin to apply sloth to your personal care habits.
When are you banning mouthwash for making men seem more attractive than their natural oral bacteria (including the likes of Herpes) might suggest?
Jesus never used mouthwash. QED according to you.

Hating make-up isn’t new

It’s old as the hills.

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A85852.0001.001/1:4?rgn=div1;view=fulltext;q1=Beauty%2C+Personal+–++Early+works+to+1800

“A discourse of auxiliary beauty. Or artificiall hansomenesse. In point of conscience between two ladies.”

Here, male authors try to “satirize” the conversation as happening between women.

To cover the fact they just don’t like it, when they don’t need to like it.

Get over it.

Not your woman? Not your problem.

If only the ancients had a term for this specifically, to tell prissy people like this to STFU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum

Uh…. yeah, they did.

Women are fussier about looks and presentation than men could ever be, that’s why we do so many things. If we’re allowed to impose preferences, men would never stop complaining about it.

They literally circlejerk the same question for millennia.

Why do women do it?

You answered your own question there, didn’t cha?

It isn’t as if it’s a modern trend or unrelated to health. They never say to stop cleaning your armpits or brushing your teeth or tweezing brows or using skin creams.

Do you think women like scruffy modern rapper lookalike men?

ruffian

The hideous shorts? The obnoxious deodorants and colognes that invade our personal space?

Madam,

I Am not more pleased to see you look so well, beyond what you were wont, than I am jealous (to be free with you) lest a per∣son so esteemed, as you are for modesty and piety, should use some colour or tincture to advance your Complexion; which indeed I take to be no better, than that odious and infamous way of Painting; every where in all ages so much, and so justly spoken a∣gainst both by God, and good men; being a most ungodly practise, though generally (as they say) now used in England (more or less) by persons of quality; who not con∣tent with Natures stock of Beauty, do (not by a fine, but filthy art) adde something to the advantage, as they think, of their Com∣plexions: but I fear, to the deforming of their souls, and defiling of their Consciences.

Men care so much because their visual systems are over-active, it’s nothing to do with women. Blaming us for breathing in your direction isn’t temptation, it’s personal weakness. We should be able to walk around looking feminine safely.

Either that or we dress like men and you still complain.

We can bring back public standards but men dropped the ball earlier and harder. No more PJs in public, no low-hanging jeans, bring back waistcoats and about five layers of stuff to pick up a pint of milk, fine. That’s fine by us.

When was the last time you wore silver collar stays?
Oh, and they have to be silver, you don’t want anyone to think you’ve “let yourself go” (see: America).

There’s no such thing as natural beauty, it’s a marketing con. Humans have pores, wrinkles, oil and sweat. I notice they never complain about deodorant, female menstrual and cleaning products, shampoo and conditioner, perfume or body sprays…. in other words, they’re fussy hypocrites. If they wanted a natural beauty, we’d be covered in so many reeking bodily fluids saturating a LOT of body hair that they would be able to smell us a mile off.

Gross? Yeah. Leave the beauty products alone, it isn’t for the sake of our own noses and eyes. It’s considerate.

Update: the title was too subtle. They hate it because women do it. That is the be-all and end-all on the subject. Anything women and women only do, they have a problem with. I’m sure it’s all a coincidence and they’re very conveniently principled against anything feminine. Methinks the “men” (mostly gay) protest too much?

I’m sure they don’t want women to drop all their feminine habits so they and their T of the LGBT fame can steal it and with it, the straight men they long for, the ultimate catch?

(Pay attention fools).

Ancient Romans wore lipstick, nobody gave a shit. Most pomades and other preparations are good for you (eyeliner was the ancient sunglasses, lead paint was SPF). There are ancient men discovered wearing hair gel. We may or may not personally like it (tastes differ) but we don’t tell you to stop it or stop selling it. That’s called respect for men. If you want to look that way, on your head be it.

Video: American on chav makeup

She doesn’t know that’s what it is, but damn. She burnt it to the ground and she’s dancing in the ashes. The best reviews are actually the black girls because they don’t hold back. They don’t care about your feelings. It’s magnificent.

I spat out my tea.

Do you know how rare that is?

Do you know how expensive this tea is?

If only the likes of Beyonce had half her personality.

OT

but

can we all

take a moment

to appreciate

this expression.

You would never catch a white girl doing this, mad respect.

Video: Arabic vs. Indian Makeup

Responding to the enduring and fatiguing popularity of any makeup post, this is the kind of education I can get behind and really endorse.

Such a sweet woman and a refreshing change from certain other Indian women who denied their heritage and tried to white-out themselves with foundation and blown-out dodgy lighting to the extent they’re lighter than me, a Brit. Love yourself. Hiding what you’ve got defeats the point.

This is how you do looks respectfully. Take notes.

On the topic, there’s really no British look, it’s similar to an older French style because we’ve been borrowing from them since we both had a monarchy. Women used to make their own cosmetics, like powder from flour. We made lip tint from beetroot and blush from rhubarb, by the time companies got involved it wasn’t new. Mascara was literally from pitch or soot over some type of oil or jelly. Makes me laugh when silly (normally US) men say they’re gonna “ban cosmetics”. K, hun. K, sure. Ban food. Ban honey and sugar and oats we use to scrub faces too. Willow charcoal, burnt and ground up brown herbs… you can’t ban nature, babe. Ban soap and tweezers and scissors. Mint tooth products.

Men wore cosmetics, especially in court. Powdered wigs still technically remain, in legal court. Deodorant is male perfume, it’s a cosmetic. Fake tan is a TON of makeup, more than any historical man wore. Even the Greeks. Even the fops.

Scotland I can’t speak for but Irish looks are about the hair and the plumpness, so to speak. They like to look healthy.

Welsh women go really out there with eye definition and it’s hard to say if they affect Scotland, who tend to blend various looks.

English is the classic Rose type and that’s a natural look; warm lipgloss or stain worked into the mouth with clear gloss over the top, blusher is important, no bronzer. NO bronzer and a peachy or cream powder. This is possible because primer isn’t really a traditional thing, like the French we allow moisturiser to sink in. Eye makeup varies, the 40s style covered by glamourdaze is correct that it wasn’t as important as lips. Culturally, women were allowed lipstick in our rations because it kept up morale. Eyeliner was natural-looking, like a more subtle Monroe. Look at Vivien Leigh, doll-like but not heavy. Women could compete to wear as much lipstick as possible in Blitz reds to seem the most patriotic. This is why we had to invent lipliner, basically.

Violet and rose products remain popular. Lavender from the Victorian era on.