Male BPD and limerence, actually

I KNOW WHAT I SAID. FIGHT ME, I READ THE WHOLE DSM AND ICD TO HOLD THESE OPINIONS. I EARN MY NERD RAGE HONEY.

The self-pity post-hoc rationalization is characteristic of BPD, along with the pattern of interpersonal self-destruction whenever they start to gain security and be happy (self-sabotage), and also constantly basing your entire identity off of random other people. That’s oddly specific. Also shown the other way in All About Eve and the recent lesbian queen film. The limerence is common to all creeps but normal people get it too, mostly kids with a strong nasty ‘crush’ because their brain is sludge. Rage at a fantasy for ‘not living up’ is criminal erotomania. Stalking is courtship disorder. BPDs cannot be single, they find the One and another one and another one…..

A psychopath would just plan to gaslight and rape her, no delusion. Maybe a grandiose ‘making the world better’ or ‘taking her down a peg/teaching a lesson’ dehumanization but no actual delusion about their actions. A Sociopath would rationalize it after the fact like ‘game’ (a trafficking term) to normalise and blame shift. It’s like you’ve never met these people.

Thoughts on fence-sitters

https://babylonbee.com/news/famed-archaeology-professor-resigns-after-several-photos-surface-of-him-in-nazi-uniforms

I was thinking. Here’s a fusion of Bible and science. 3800 words. Skip to bold if lazy.

Having no protective instinct for your kin is a woeful excuse for cowardice. I keep seeing it in American men and I’ve no skin in that game so it’s objective. I’ve noticed it’s trendy for men to SIGNAL conservative (a virtue signal to K values) but also throw various in-group under the bus (e.g. white mothers = Karen), usually for existing.

With friends like that….

It’s getting really grim and they deserve their own suffering, as the Bible stipulates.
Who are we to intervene? If we could? (We cannot).

Deut 28:15…

“But it shall come about, if you do not obey the Lord your God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes with which I charge you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you: “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.”

Deut 31:17

Then My anger will be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them and hide My face from them, and they will be consumed, and many evils and troubles will come upon them

If you are unholy, you deserve to suffer. Suck it up. Man up.

From Prov 1, God is laughing at you

Because I called and you refused,
I stretched out my hand and no one paid attention;
And you neglected all my counsel
And did not want my reproof;
I will also laugh at your calamity;
I will mock when your dread comes

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reproof

You’re supposed to be criticized.

And men are supposed to police one another, women only chastise (from chaste, a virtue) when men have failed to be men.

1 Samuel 3:13

For I have told him that I am about to judge his house forever for the iniquity which he knew, because his sons brought a curse on themselves and he did not rebuke them.

But they claim to slag off actual Christians (some of which are evil whitey and evil woman*) using a book that expressly condemns them?

Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit” – Matthew 15

Leave them alone, God said. Let them suffer. Let them be dumb. Let them fail, it’s God’s will. Don’t go simping for the anti-social.

Matthew 25 “The foolish said to the prudent, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ But the prudent answered, ‘No, there will not be enough for us and you too; go instead to the dealers and buy some for yourselves.’”

They’re parasites.

Isaiah 65:12

I will destine you for the sword,
And all of you will bow down to the slaughter.
Because I called, but you did not answer;
I spoke, but you did not hear.
And you did evil in My sight
And chose that in which I did not delight.

You can’t appeal to the authority of the Bible if you read it? Did they read it?

Stop meddling in others’ morality and check yourself.

Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?” Rom 9:21

You are responsible for YOUR soul. Derailing to others’ is a weakness.

They’re even pushing Muslim rhetoric about *supposed The Woman Question. How stupid can you get? With no white women (whom they truly reference), the race is dead, numbnuts. That’s what the SJWs openly want, along with certain religions. If you don’t know any good white women, it sounds like you’re the problem? Why don’t they want to be around you? Note how the Muslims trolling on those ‘right wing’ pages, pretending to be white goys, are also pushing them into the very Marxism they claim to oppose e.g. largely cultural, an abortion and STD clinic on every corner. Like no, you’re not edgy, that’s all 100% mainstream, you cannot hate white women and girls more than the people literally rape slaving them under your noses and calling you effeminate cowards for letting it happen. Kin before ‘gender’. If you don’t care about your kin, you’re not conservative. These fake Ks want an excuse to be globalist, why? Just leave the West instead of whining every day for years, who will stop you? We won’t miss you, while you always, coincidentally, side with the oppressors, as true r-strategists. I’m losing patience with them, something might have to be done. They lack in basic literacy and common sense. What did Muslims do historically to men of lands they enslaved? Castrated them. Can’t say they wouldn’t deserve it, for allowing their kin to be raped, Bible is clear about “I will give you over to foreigners if you disobey” proclamations and “love her because she is a woman” rules.

It’s love thy neighbour as thyself, love your close kin, protect them, respect them, honour them, not throw them under the bus to foreigners with a different religion to signal how ‘independent, fish bicycle’ macho bravado man you are.

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Peter%203%3A7

They just want an excuse to be cowards, cucks and traitors. Damn the fence-sitters.

Who’d be dumb enough to believe gib promises from people who come from countries with retarded IQs that can barely feed themselves?

And if it’s “men r so special” – not really, most infant deaths are male because the genome is weaker, Natural Selection culls men (earlier mortality, more accidents from low IQ etc). How are women meant to alter your IQ exactly? I’m all ears.

https://www.medindia.net/news/infant-mortality-rates-higher-among-boys-than-girls-study-34597-1.htm

An analysis of infant mortality in 15 developed countries found that baby boys are 24 percent more likely to die than baby girls.

This is down from a peak of 31 percent in 1970, but double the rate in the days before the development of vaccines and public health measures like improved sanitation dramatically improved infant mortality rates.

Men are the mutants of the species. If women were – no species, we’d go extinct. I get a vibe of hard cope from a sizeable segment of low IQ multicultural r-guys who thought they’d be Brad Pitt one day, a little like our version of India’s angry single men.

“As infant mortality falls to very low levels, infant deaths become increasingly concentrated among those who are born with some weakness.”

Genetically, men are the weaker sex.

The male disadvantage begins in utero…..

it continues

When poor sanitation and nutrition weakened all babies and mothers the male disadvantage was less noticeable: from 1751 until 1870 the gender mortality gap was about 10 to 15 percent.

Medicine has allowed weak men to survive

we all knew already, soyboys were saved by medicine

The gender gap rose steadily as infant mortality rates plummeted and only began to reverse with the increased use caesarean sections and improvements in neonatal care.

by God’s design, they should’ve been dead

“Changes in obstetrical practice and neonatal medicine that saved all but the weakest babies have benefited boys more than girls because boys were more vulnerable across the entire range of birth weights,” the authors concluded.

“In addition to changes in delivery practices, improvements in neonatal intensive care also may have benefited males more than females.”

we owe them nothing

A third times more likely to die from infant syphilis, for instance

60 v. 93 per 100k (f/m)

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/infant-death-rates-by-cause-by-sex?country=~Syphilis

so where do they get the idea of being God’s favourite?

It has no data, they die younger and have lower average IQs, so is it the Bible?

but… God doesn’t actually like men. Genesis:

Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. The Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.”

So if we’re arguing God hates either sex, it’d be the one who was 100% in charge during all the evil, wouldn’t it?

He literally wants to kill those guys.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs+1%3A27-32&version=NIV

when calamity overtakes you like a storm,
    when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind,
    when distress and trouble overwhelm you.

Then they will call to me but I will not answer;
they will look for me but will not find me,
since they hated knowledge
and did not choose to fear the Lord.
Since they would not accept my advice
and spurned my rebuke,
they will eat the fruit of their ways
and be filled with the fruit of their schemes.
For the waywardness of the simple will kill them,
and the complacency of fools will destroy them;

You deserved this. It’s right there. You wanna be a reprobate, this is what happens. What have your fellow mortals, men or women both, got to do with divine justice? Are we supposed to pray for you?

“As for you, do not pray for this people, and do not lift up cry or prayer for them, and do not intercede with Me; for I do not hear you” Jer 7:16

God does reject people, after they reject Him.

Jeremiah 6:30
They call them rejected silver,
Because the Lord has rejected them.

If society sucks, the Bible is abundantly clear that men are responsible. You lost moral authority and God is punishing you, not women. We find it funny Americans say they oppose the Sexual Revolution while encouraging strip clubs and their own daughters to join ‘legal’ brothels. Is that a Christian nation, really?

Women are meant to fear GOD. Not you guys. You’re mortal. You’re not Jesus. Most of you can’t put the porn down for a week. Remove the offending ‘limb’, Jesus said. Respect is earned. What do you do, that makes fellow men and women respect you? Usually crickets ensue after asking.

I get the feeling we’ve been flooded with Cluster B men recently, complete with “splitting” and delusions of revenge fantasy, it feels very Elliot Rodger, dunnit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)

There’s literally something mentally wrong with them. They’re spiteful mutants who implode any group dumb enough to accept them. They did it with atheistkult. Do we not have standards? Basic moral standards? Not being a literal raging hypocrite? All Cluster B men do is derail with pity parties about how much of a loser they are and Someone Else must fix it or be “punished”. Very just world fallacy crap, male brand hypoagency. I think a fair standard is not blaming others for your own inability to grow up. I expected such entryism (fake Ks). We should reject these guys, they’re worthless to any First World civilization, actively anti-social, they’re just picking on women as the weaker sex for now so the men are weakened (family ties, borderlines love to split them up, attacking women first as the weaker sex).

Splitting is a relatively common defense mechanism for people with borderline personality disorder.[7] One of the DSM IV-TR criteria for this disorder is a description of splitting: “a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation“.[10][11] In psychoanalytic theory, people with borderline personality disorder are not able to integrate the good and bad images of both self and others, resulting in a bad representation which dominates the good representation.[12]

Those people shouldn’t breed! Nobody is entitled to pass on their genes, yet only r-types feel that way. Sexual Selection is supposed to deny the genetics of entitled borderlines, histrionic personalities etc. Many of the undiagnosed cluster Bs are male, statistically. 

Borderline Personality Disorder in Men: A Common Co-Occurring Disorder

Characterized by pervasive mood instability, difficulty with interpersonal relationships, negative self-image and harmful behavior, borderline personality disorder in men (BPD) is a serious mental illness.

We’re not your shrink, we’re not here for any one guy subjectively but they keep treating discussions of societal issues like a personal therapy session, classic cluster B characteristic. Like STFU so the grown-ups can talk?

Borderline personality disorder is characterized by:

  • Intense bouts of anger, depression or anxiety that last hours to days long
  • Episodes of impulsive aggression, self-injury or drug or alcohol abuse
  • Distorted thoughts and negative sense of self
  • Frequent and impulsive changes in life-altering decisions
  • Highly unstable patterns of social relationships
  • High sensitivity to rejection
  • Impulsive behaviors like excessive spending, risky sex and binge eating

It is common to see borderline personality disorder occur with other psychiatric problems, particularly bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety disorders, substance abuse and other personality disorders.

I see no way they could ever impair our optics. /s We shouldn’t pick up defects. We’re not SJWs, we don’t need it. They drag every group down, we’re just the latest.

There’s also a huge persecution and victim complex, with paradoxical claims e.g. women are stupid vs. women are ruling over us – pick ONE, moron.

Another is “women don’t have enough kids” vs. “I don’t need to have kids”. It takes two. You not having kids means roughly one woman in your group cannot, so it’s an actual loss of TWO or more (just at replacement rate). Maths is hard, huh?

See if this seems familiar.

A series of intense but stormy relationships is often the first thing people notice about a man with BPD. He will fall in love quickly and can fall out of love just as fast.

They don’t feel love, then. In-lust isn’t love.

Similarly, in a friendship or family relationship, when he has been offended, he immediately stops all contact with that person and cuts them out of his life in anger. He is notorious for holding grudges.

Yep.

Part of joining forum cults is avoiding outrage in the echo chamber. They’re dysfunctional.

A man with BPD may harm people and bring excessive emotion and drama to relationships, but deep down he usually doesn’t want to hurt people; he just wants to be loved and is desperate for it. Men with BPD appear needy and manipulative, but they are desperately seeking to feel love they’ve never felt before.

Depends if co-occurs with HPD, NPD, ASPD, etc. And being abusive isn’t excusable, everyone wants love. Borderlines want a secured victim to love them “unconditionally” (even when being abused). That isn’t love. They don’t know what love is. They think abusing someone = love, they SHOULD die alone.

When symptomatic, a man with BPD is walking around in a living hell and perceived as universally hostile. He walks around with incredible inner pain, depression and free-floating anxiety.

“universally hostile” a hell of the reprobate’s own making

Dependent, dramatic and highly manipulative, BPD sufferers have learned to cope in these dysfunctional ways due to the overwhelming fear and emotional pain they endure. The emotional instability coupled with impulsivity places these individuals at risk of drug or alcohol abuse.

There’s also an element of Boomer-like denial of aging (I know not all Boomers). BPD is close to NPD so they have a fragile ego and self-worth, aging suggests they might be abandoned, BPD’s greatest fear.

The guys who claim they’ll get divorced before they even meet their future wife – it’s a BPD sign.

If you knew you were going to abuse your spouse, you’d know you were gonna get divorced before you met them.

Women are diagnosed with BPD at a ratio of 3-to-1 to men. However, in general, population studies, the occurrence rates are evenly distributed. While it is true that statistically more women than men are diagnosed with BPD, there are reasons for the statistics.

For one thing, men, in general, are more averse to seeking professional help for medical or mental problems. And when they do talk to a counselor or doctor, BDP is often misdiagnosed in men.

In fact, the vast majority of men with borderline personality disorder go undiagnosed.

Men are often undiagnosed or misdiagnosed because BPD manifests differently in men than women and is interpreted differently.

It isn’t our fault you have a mental problem. Get professional help.

Fixing the ‘West’ won’t make you happy.

Borderline personality disorder in men is often overlooked and brushed off with a recommendation for an anger management class. Men tend to externalize behaviors like aggression, violent patterns and antisocial traits, including heavier substance use than women.

they’re like the new hippies “it’s the West making me like this, man!”

Then…. move? Forever?

Obvious solution, they never do it. BPDs have abandonment issues. They cannot leave the West because they’d be forced to act alone. They’ll still sit around and complain for years, with total meltdowns and mantrums (like a toddler) because it’s their cry for help, BPD’s way of getting attention. They’ll make up stories of abuse. Nobody has ever suffered in human history like the solid 5 who can’t score a 10 wife, somebody fight this injustice! The Cluster B is an eternal damsel.

You can deal with it, but I won’t. They punish people for trying to help them.

Sometimes these externalized behaviors are misdiagnosed as antisocial personality disorder, anger management problems or something else. Ironically, people with BPD complain of feeling misunderstood and in reality, they are being misunderstood and misdiagnosed.

Maybe the problem really is you, though? Nope, BPD has external locus of control.

Like you’re still responsible for your own choices in life? [they deny this]

If you ask during a tirade on women, they also have more problems with men. The system is against them, all their bosses are Satan, I r so smart fuq IQ tests etc. You cannot help them, they need a shrink. They want you to soothe them but agreeing, saying okay you’re a loser – they’ll try to get revenge on you. Cannot win. I warned you all.

It’s a trap. Engaging with them is a trap.

Familiar?

Here are some ways BPD manifests in men:

  • Sensitive to criticism while responding with aggression
  • Controlling through criticism
  • Holding grudges
  • Fear of rejection played out in jealousy and using sex to alleviate his feelings of rejection
  • Rejecting relationships – when he’s been offended by someone, he hates them; he sees people in good or bad absolutes
  • Jealous or possessive insecurities, but emotionally detached from relationships
  • Using alcohol or drugs to relieve his constant free-floating anxiety

sexual promiscuity too, like the psychopath

I’ll stop quoting there but the rest is good. They never take responsibility for their own actions, beliefs or life either. Classic Cluster B.

Men who are dead inside, incapable of emotional intimacy and empathy. Sure, we need those guys on our side!

Would you want one marrying your sister? Only Q you need ask.

They don’t want a high trust society, they’re still failing in one of the easiest societies in history.

It isn’t our responsibility to fix them.

Generally now.

Why are nasty men more often than not the past-it ones? esp. the never-was-es. Is envy really so spiteful? Just because you’d never have a chance with a woman (entitlement thinking) is no excuse to be verbally abusive, that’ll just put off the women who might’ve been interested? I seldom see women be as ‘spitting-bullets’ as embittered, aged bachelor types. They waste days per year crusading online. Why wouldn’t you be happier, after your decision?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-happy-children-spouse-partner-relationship-unmarried-a8931816.html

The women are? Why wouldn’t bachelors live longer, if it’s so great? Makes no sense.

Boomer bachelors are literally most white suicides right now, they NEVER broach this.

It makes no practical sense so it must be poor emotional control. The one thing an old ugly guy could have on his side is a great personality and they can’t even do THAT right? Why are so many men abject failures on the decency front, must we bring back the military service? Like, what’s missing? The dysfunction would persist even if they lived on an all-male desert island.

We truly bemoan the absence of etiquette.

There seems to be an epidemic of them nagging all and sundry on social media.
You don’t have a time machine to prevent past you from ruining your life and it’s nobody else’s job to ‘fix it’ for you nor soothe you with a long list of ‘demands’ (usually of the Muh Dick variety).
Wastrels always existed historically, you cannot blame Postmodernism for this one.
It seems women are emotionally maturing and just getting on with life faster than men.
You didn’t see staunch Bernie sisters, did you? And now they’re simping for Yang and Biden. They go from one “bro” to another, expecting them to clean up their life’s mess like a Statist Mommy figure. Statist Sugar Babies?
They also seem all too happy to play Judas with no self-awareness while discussing tribal loyalties. Every time someone’s tried to report me for having an Un-PC opinion in public, it was some bitchy little gamma male. They’re huge snitches.

Bring back duelling.

They can larp online as ‘reasonable’ and ‘traditional’ when, if you ask, they engage in all sorts of degeneracy. Various things “don’t count” according to them, like race-cucking porn WMAF. But white women are “their women”. What? They’re amoral, like psychopaths. For thee, but not me. They are the shameless people the Bible warned us about. There’s no Them in there, it’s a bizarre moral hollowness.
I find it ironic they claim to support white people while being more anti-white than the BBC to the literal majority of the white population (women). Like, aren’t the rape gangs enough? At least the media isn’t advocating for your rape as penance for some historical ill.
They still think throwing all white women to the crocodile will appease it, so throw a huge dose of unwise into there too.

Beware, anyone pitying them, that’s the male BPD’s MO.

They’re treating you all like their stand-in girlfriend

They seem to be unable to regulate their own behavior and actions, yet willing to establish limits and boundaries on others.

they complain for attention

They seem to be thrilled by engaging in risky behaviors and often will do so in the presence of others for the sheer joy of creating a shock factor….  The reaction from others makes them feel alive with admiration.

they say anything shocking to get attention

they don’t mean it

Once established in a relationship, a man with BPD will often seek out opportunities to initiate an argument or fight. Often this is in response to their own beliefs that their partner is not interested in them anymore. They have a need to justify their own reaction to these imagined perceptions and initiating arguments becomes the means to an end.

from

16 Signs Of Borderline Personality Disorder in Men

Men with BPD lack emotional intelligence. They are unable to regulate or express their own emotions and can often misread the emotional feel of others.

Men with BPD often are very controlling, having a desire and need to maintain the upper hand in every situation.

Men with BPD can be possessive, taking their partners life into their hands and demanding to make the decisions for any and every possible option they may have. This can include what type of job they may take, the type of clothing they can wear and even the friends they are allowed to have.

cuckoo

better you than me

They can be overly critical of others, using their criticism as a means of control. However, they cannot accept any form of criticism themselves.

They are known for holding grudges and being hostile over minute arguments or disagreements.

I warned ya.

Video: Narcissistic inattentiveness

It’s strange to hear guys brag about ADHD (used to be the fave was autism) as if that 1. makes them more intelligent and 2. as if all their ‘symptoms’ are magically explained (they’re not) by a condition (hypoagency, victim mentality).

“I can’t pay attention, I have ADHD” – “I can play video games for hours and often read reddit all night

Pick ONE.

It’s obvious for certain symptoms they actually have a personality disorder, the cluster Bs in particular are quite specific.

When they complain about feeling apathetic, having no solid identity (often imitating shallow role models, usually called Alphas or Chads – cringe!), how they get triggered (into a rage, in a personal way) at random news stories when it’s just the standard SJW ‘debate’ with other SJWs, for example, it’s quite obvious they’re borderline.

Their cognitive issues are diagnosed as ADHD, when their symptoms, if you really listen, are emotional. But therapists look for cognitive disorders in men, emotional in women. Prevalence doesn’t work like that.

A lot of narcissists like hiding behind a diagnosis so you let them get away with things.

BPDs lie the most about what their condition “really” means if they have to own having it and try to expand or constantly change it to suit what they want. Clusters Bs are compulsive liars, don’t believe their opinions on psychiatry unless they have training (it would get sniffed out during training, so they don’t). They’ll also reference books like the DSM hoping nobody checks because what they claim isn’t in the book nor what those words mean (they are not written for laymen). They get angry if you check their sources and so often fail to include them “accidentally”.

A male BPD claiming to have ADHD would tack-on all sorts of BPD symptoms into their version of what ADHD “really” is. Before ADHD it was “high functioning autism” specifically, before that a trend for bipolar. Whatever is seen as creative genius high IQ alpha big brained wigger disease is what they’ll claim, like a rawr girl claiming she’s too random to be contained by heterosexuality.  It’s funny once you learn to spot the patterns.

Not listening in this case is a sign of low IQ and poor predictor of life outcomes since they don’t actually try. The guy with four marriages who blames women. The guy with ten failed businesses who insists he has a great brain.

Because ADHD isn’t supposed to care (listen) to the fact you don’t listen to THEM. Think about it, they’d hardly notice!

But Cluster Bs care, that’s their supply. That’s their validation. That’s what they leech from.

Misogynists are just bitchy entitled brats

They act like a bitchy woman. They do not act straight.

e.g. As time goes on, he begins to reveal a Jekyll & Hyde personality.

Respectful to friends and superiors, never to ugly women or inferiors. Very antisocial personality.

e.g. He will make promises to women and often fail to keep them. With men, on the other hand, he will almost always keep his word.

Narc triangulation, men say he’s good, women say he’s bad. Narc sucks up attention.

r-types, like Labour pitting Muslims against Christians. Whoever wins, will vote for Labour.

“He’s such a nice guy” – red flag, nice to men = evil to women. Men are meant to compete.

It’s a perversion of gender role.

A guy like that tried ignoring me once, thinking I’d decided to go out with him after being pressured. (nope) Treat them mean and all. Like I said, “didn’t even notice”. Really, actually, didn’t. Since he was playing the female role, why would I? I’m not the man.

If I were a dyke, I still wouldn’t notice him, a male. It STILL makes no sense, to this day.

Answers on a postcard. If they liked ‘strong independent (manly) women’, one keyword there is independent.

He threw a tantrum about me ‘missing him’ (almost stranger) and it being a ‘test’ (not a single date) and stomped off, half-expecting me to chase him. It was comical. His dick was not valuable. Dick is not a rare commodity. Turned out to be a nutjob. Shocker. I’d actually felt better when he wasn’t around, this is why they can’t be the woman.

They treat women mean and act like women (schoolgirls who won’t talk to you), then complain when the woman leaves. They believe affection must be tinged with abuse. Trauma bonds formed by control and gaslighting aren’t love, stupid bitches. Any secure person will run for the hills over broken glass.

“Nice Guy” – repressed rage (usually left-wing, white guilt and Asian fetish) and kinda gay.

An Asian Nice Guy would have guilt with a White fetish, Anglo culture obsession (opposite of weeb).

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mysteries-love/201502/12-ways-spot-misogynist

It’s a defense mechanism from narc inferiority/superiority complex and self-loathing but mostly a blind spot, e.g.

  1. He will be late for appointments and dates with women, but be quite punctual with men.
  2. He is extremely competitive, especially with women. If a woman does better than him socially or professionally, he feels terrible. If a man does better, he may have mixed feelings about it but he is able to look at the situation objectively.
  3. He will be prepared (unconsciously) to use anything within his power to make women feel miserable. He may demand sex or withhold sex in his relationships, make jokes about women or put them down in public, “borrow” their ideas in professional contexts without giving them credit, or borrow money from them without paying them back.
  4. On a date, he will treat a woman the opposite of how she prefers. If she is an old-style lady who prefers a “gentleman” who holds the door for her, orders for both and pays for the meal, he will treat her like one of his male buddies, order for himself, and let her pay for the whole meal if she offers (and sometimes even if she doesn’t). If she is a more independent type who prefers to order her own meal and pay for herself, he will rudely order for both and pay the check while she goes to the bathroom.
  5. He will cheat on women he is dating or in a relationship with. Monogamy is the last thing he feels he owes a woman.
  6. He may suddenly disappear from a relationship without ending it, but may come back three months later with an explanation designed to lure the woman back in.

If that all sounds borderline to you, yes, a lot of misogynists are undiagnosed male borderlines.

3. is a psychopath, as is 5 and 6.

Huge hypocrites, project women as doing all of those. Implying men are impossible candidates.

Lower IQ, since misogyny is an indicator of inferiority. Defense in defense mechanism avoids this fact.

Falsely claim men are intelligent despite huge number of retards.

Only rarely will a misogynist possess every one of these traits, which makes it harder to identify them.

Women haters (unconsciously) get off on treating women badly. Every time they can put down a woman or hurt her feelings, they unconsciously feel good because deep down in their hidden brain, their bad behavior is rewarded with a dose of the pleasure chemical dopamine—which makes them want to repeat the behavior again and again.

Idiots. Defective brains.

The wounded masculine. Sadism. A woman who spots them (empath) and so, isn’t hurt, becomes a ‘bitch’. He was the one bitching, trying to wound her. Not wounding her wounds his ego, narcissism 101.

Real men don’t treat the weaker sex like crap, they have a duty. Women need men and men need women, emotionally.

r/niceguys, the Male Hysteric

The medical dictionary enlightens us on these broflakes, that weirdly seem addicted to hook-up apps.

https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/histrionic-personality-disorder-dsm–5-301.50-(f60.4)
Disproportionate emotional reactions” walls of text, random opinions based on nothing
“Histrionic personality disorder is thought to be closely related to antisocial personality disorder, with studies showing that individuals meeting the criteria for the former condition also meet similar criteria for the latter. Based on this finding, it could be inferred that the two disorders may stem from the same underlying cause; whether this is biological, environmental or otherwise is yet to be determined.”

“Comorbidity

Histrionic personality disorder may present comorbid with other conditions, including:

Borderline personality disorder
Narcissistic personality disorder
Dependent personality disorder
Major depressive disorder
Somatic symptom disorder
Conversion disorder”

First in list.

They do play victim a lot… while typing rape fantasies in classic sexual intimidation.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/histrionic-personality-disorder
“The self for the histrionic personality is that “I am sensitive and everyone should admire and approve of me.”

Cannot handle rejection.

“Cluster B
Borderline personality disorder is characterised by emotional instability, impulsivity, self-image problems, and unstable and intense interpersonal relationships. These individuals often present to clinical services due to self-harm, mood disturbance or psychotic-like symptoms. Borderline personality disorder often coexists with antisocial, histrionic, narcissistic, dependent and avoidant personality disorders. Differentiating this personality disorder from mood disorders and psychotic disorders can be problematic, and comorbidity with these mental illnesses is not uncommon.”

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/personality-disorders/what-are-personality-disorders
“There are 10 specific types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are long-term patterns of behavior and inner experiences that differs significantly from what is expected. The pattern of experience and behavior begins by late adolescence or early adulthood and causes distress or problems in functioning. Without treatment, personality disorders can be long-lasting. Personality disorders affect at least two of these areas:

  • Way of thinking about oneself and others
  • Way of responding emotionally
  • Way of relating to other people
  • Way of controlling one’s behavior”

“Borderline personality disorder: a pattern of instability in personal relationships, intense emotions, poor self-image and impulsivity. A person with borderline personality disorder may go to great lengths to avoid being abandoned, have repeated suicide attempts, display inappropriate intense anger or have ongoing feelings of emptiness.”

The standard rant about being abandoned by all women, anger toward women (but not men, because histrionics are sexual predators) and emptiness when not validated with attention. If they cannot get positive attention, they seek negative e.g. explicit compliments ‘switch’ to verbal abuse. Stereotypical HPD.

This has gained global internet attention (and derision) but it’s 100% a personality disorder, as quoted.

“Narcissistic personality disorder: a pattern of need for admiration and lack of empathy for others. A person with narcissistic personality disorder may have a grandiose sense of self-importance, a sense of entitlement, take advantage of others or lack empathy.”

“Histrionic personality disorder: a pattern of excessive emotion and attention seeking. People with histrionic personality disorder may be uncomfortable when they are not the center of attention, may use physical appearance to draw attention to themselves or have rapidly shifting or exaggerated emotions.”

“Antisocial personality disorder: a pattern of disregarding or violating the rights of others. A person with antisocial personality disorder may not conform to social norms, may repeatedly lie or deceive others, or may act impulsively.”

Women are such idiots for passing up those men, huh?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/meetingcoverage/apa/14335
“Borderline personality disorder may be underdiagnosed, according to a study of lifetime diagnostic and treatment histories in patients eventually found to have the disorder.”

MAYBE?

“The most common false-positive diagnoses were bipolar disorder (17%) and depression (13%), followed by anxiety disorders (10%) and eating disorders (1%).”

“These criteria include at least five of the following:

  • Efforts to avoid abandonment
  • Unstable, intense interpersonal relationships
  • Identity disturbances
  • Impulsivity
  • Suicidality
  • Mood instability
  • Chronic emptiness
  • Inappropriate, intense anger
  • Paranoid ideation or dissociation”

Sounds like MRA’s paranoia of divorce when they aren’t even married.

That’s like fearing foreclosure when you’ll never buy a house.

Women are supposed to use sexual selection to reduce their batshit contribution to the gene pool. They used to be killed off in wars, good luck flirting with a bayonet.

Feature, not a bug. Men acting like stereo-typically ‘crazy’ people, emoting over nothing, are owed nothing. Broflakes must die. Whether they took Gender Studies or pretend to be right-wing is irrelevant. They shouldn’t breed, like the SJW won’t either. Feature, not bug. Snowflake fertility rate is close to zero.

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/borderline-personality-disorder/index.shtml

“Borderline personality disorder is a mental illness marked by an ongoing pattern of varying moods, self-image, and behavior. These symptoms often result in impulsive actions and problems in relationships. People with borderline personality disorder may experience intense episodes of anger, depression, and anxiety that can last from a few hours to days.”

Sounds about right.

They flick like a light switch.

“People with borderline personality disorder may experience mood swings and display uncertainty about how they see themselves and their role in the world. As a result, their interests and values can change quickly.”

When they complain about ‘men’ needing better treatment, they only mean them.

“People with borderline personality disorder also tend to view things in extremes, such as all good or all bad. Their opinions of other people can also change quickly. An individual who is seen as a friend one day may be considered an enemy or traitor the next. These shifting feelings can lead to intense and unstable relationships.”

Rather important characteristic.

“Intense and highly changeable moods, with each episode lasting from a few hours to a few days
Chronic feelings of emptiness
Inappropriate, intense anger or problems controlling anger
Difficulty trusting, which is sometimes accompanied by irrational fear of other people’s intentions
Feelings of dissociation, such as feeling cut off from oneself, seeing oneself from outside one’s body, or feelings of unreality”

Line up, ladies.

Basically they act like they’re on the period from Hell, except no period.

Women attracted to labile intense emotionality are called lesbians. Suddenly their domestic abuse rates make sense.

No wonder these guys are perma-single. They push people away or are pushed. Why get into dating, then, logically? They need the attention like air.

https://www.apa.org/monitor/mar04/treatment.aspx
“And while individuals with BPD often crave approval, a small provocation can trigger abusive and even violent behavior toward those trying to help them.”

To finish, some interesting but not academic comments.

https://www.psychforums.com/histrionic-personality/topic10988.html
“I believe a male HPD would probably lure their female victims in by acting like a lost little boy in need of a mother.”

A maternal wife, maternal to him, more than his own children. Sick.

“Not very different from how a female HPD searches out older men much of the time and acts like a lost little girl that puts across the illusion that she will reward you with love and sex if only you were to take care of her.”

Logically, aren’t the male HPDs then looking for a mother figure?

If the women resist that creepy dynamic, he can call them shallow and gold diggers, as if he possesses looks, charm or money but chooses to reject them (drama).

“This of course is all an endless search for a father figure since their real fathers tend to be either A. abusive B. abusive narcissists (abusive because they neglect and tend to be emotionally and physically distant or abuse their children sexually mentally or physically) or C. abandoned her when she was young or was never there at all other than to conceive the poor girl so she yearns for a real father figure and keeps seeking them out in the men she gets involved with or befriends to prospectively get involved with them later if they measure up ie have some status so she can leech all the attention off of being the girlfriend of ______ etc.

Anyway other literature I read says male HPD’s also act ridiculously macho…
The HPD’s that are dual diagnosed with NPD or ASPD will do things out of maliciousness because those bad traits go with those other disorders when people with that feel wronged or slighted or are in need of amusement and believe only doing something to hurt someone will end their boredom and provide them with stimulation.”

Private messaging people who aren’t even on dating sites.

This male HPD would seek females who would adore him and shower him with the attention that was lacked while growing up…. correct?? A female that would be his new playmate per say where he would feel needed, wanted and loved?”

When this impossible Saint doesn’t appear (but he’d cheat on her or leave anyway) then he complains how there are no good women.

Saints suffer.

They want a doormat who’ll prop them up, no matter what they do to abuse her… if a doormat could prop anyone up, they’d do it themselves. Such a woman is a contradiction and impossible in reality.

“The key point seems to be social acceptance in this case, but I don’t know if this apply to all the HPD’s.”
Popularity.

“Still about the “easiness”: in my experience, being “reasonably difficult” is maybe the best option, if any. This kind of man discounts quickly something he can obtain too easily”

The guy who went on fifty dates this month but complains women are attention-seeking flakes…

or inferior, because they’re decent to him. And he got bored.

That’s the one.

Addicted to dating, imagine how messed up that is. Addicted to when dating goes wrong.

Without a constant rota of new women, what would he have to talk about?

HPD’s often form parental type relationships with one person but then cheat on that one person with plenty of other partners because they need the extra attention and since they don’t have the little voice in their head like we do that re-assures us of things they need re-assurance from other people of what they’d like to feel about themselves a mirror is made out of the other person you could say so yeah the other function of cheating for them would be to re-assure themselves that they are still attractive and sexy since they cannot feel that way about themselves without a mirror a.k.a you and me.”

Madonna/Whore complex makes the man a literal attention whore.

“I’ve met a histrionic male before. He is a very unpredictable person. Usually, a male histrionic sounds like he is in need of a lot of love and care. Also, at many times, he might be an adult already but act like a 4 year old. The male histrionic I liked called me his granny. It was odd at first but I suspected he was a bit too attached. Also, male histrionics are extremely flirtatious. I agree with you, they can also be classifed as players. Making girls fall in love with them for the attention in the end to forget all about you if he’s gets tired and bored with you! Also, male histrionics are seductive and give out little hints about their sexual desires. It’s actually not easy to catch. Just think of M.H. as in between the border of sweet & innocent, yet perverted and sexual. If you get the sense from these two sides, he might have a histrionic personality disorder.”

Boyish and tyrannical, emotional and demanding.

Incapable of commitment, in spite of his supposed ‘fear’ of abandonment.

He hates the idea, but is happy, nay, gleeful, to abandon or betray others.

That’s the male hysteric. Because he can leave you and you should just get over it, but you can’t leave, because if he can’t have you, no one else can. If you want to freak a HPD out, give them lots of attention in person for five minutes then abruptly stop. A normal person won’t feel entitled. In HPD, it triggers rage. It’s similar to narcissistic supply.

Every good thing burns in the dumpster fire of their life, esp. ‘love’ life.

To them it’s literally a game, of attention.

They call women wise to their game ‘teases’ because projection. Being nice is just normal, it isn’t special. A woman being nice is just feminine, she doesn’t want to fuck you.

When these guys use a noun of something they want, replace it with attention. It suddenly makes complete sense.

Women don’t like female attention-seekers, why would they like /niceguys? The nice act is a routine that seeks praise.

Video: The 9 traits of the borderline personality

Male or female.

The instability (emotional) is the BIG one.

Much like a psychopath, they cannot hold down a (healthy) relationship. Bonds between a couple must be stable.

However, like a codependent, they feel they’re nothing without someone, ANYONE.

Stop and start. Stop and start. Lots of small connections, one night stands.

The typical one night stand (m/f) has a far higher chance of being borderline.

Lashing out at anyone rejecting them, however trivial.

Yep, the angry phone number guys. The occasional woman who gets angry if a random man doesn’t want to fuck her. The entitlement.

Borderlines DO NOT DO rejection. It’s a main trigger.

They have no self to fall back on. Obsessed with self-improvement, no identity though. Constantly trying new things that never seem to work out (think Madonna’s looks). Lots of “bad luck” with the opposite sex. Tendency to idolize others, have idols, especially online. They gain a sense of self via this Other. The stans who can delude themselves into stalking, harassing or raping their idol, dangerous people. A courtship disorder is possible or simple limerence at a distance. Feeling a sense of ownership, viewing other humans as objects or property.

Vengeful, rage tantrums, can attempt to justify abuse with some imagined or minor slight.

You provoked me” or “you made me hurt you” or “why can’t you behave”?

That would be the classic “bunny boiler” or “disturbed young man” type.

It’s common to hear, “I own you” …. they actually think this.

Both are big on gaslighting so can be confused with a narcissist, which actually isn’t (usually) as bad.

It’s the men who ask to an abused woman “what did you do to make him hit you”?

Classic BPD, sick bastards. They never man up, nothing is ever their personal fault, even the actions of their own body don’t feel like they belong to them. When they picture themselves as the man (issues with empathy for the opposite sex), they assume the man was never at fault, even if he threatened murder.

They will FIND an excuse to hurt.

“I’m the real victim here”, as the other party is bleeding and traumatized in the corner.

They can seem glib like the psychopath or narcissist and can be at times grandiose with narc features. However, it’s an act, usually in response to attention. It’s fake. Their come-down is when this reality hits them again, which can look bipolar. They claim to be depressed when they don’t want to do something, a lot of small compulsive lies.

A rollercoaster of emotional bullshit. Like psychopaths, they deny their own condition but ALSO spread outright lies about it (we’re nice really, we’re the real victim, we suffer,  pity us, you can fix us etc).

The logical reply is “wait, if you don’t have it, how do you know so much about it?”

This makes them angry. You wouldn’t like them when they’re angry (they can intimidate by threatening this “loss” of temper, which is a deliberate choice to abuse). Adults don’t lose their temper, toddlers do, because toddlers are still developing the brain areas to control it.

Anger isn’t really an emotion, it’s an impulse. They have issues, emotion is quite healthy but being angry all the time is bad for your body. The Bobo dolls study and others show feeding anger makes it stronger and more frequent. “Let it all out” applies to tears, not physical abuse. Angry people get an endorphin rush, abusers enjoy abusing.

Like the psychopath, they study a lot online of how normal people think. They can quote forum posts to act normal or pass for intelligent, to lure in victims. It’s vapid trivia masquerading as knowledge.

A dichotomous view of life that is too shallow to withstand scrutiny.

e.g. all men are rapists/assholes v. all women are whores/crazy.

The common denominator there….

See, they find it helpful to define themselves in terms of what they’re not.

They deny their Shadow Self and project it, it’s stereotypical they claim they’re incapable of that Evil Terrible Terrible Thing. But the Enemy is FULL of it, to bursting! It’s so obvious!

Race they belong to generally but self-loathing can present if encouraged.

Sexism is far more common because of parental issues.

So it’s the misogynist who says

“I’m not sexist, I just don’t trust or believe or respect women.

OR

For balance, the misandrist who says

“I’m not sexist, I just don’t like or rely on or hang around men.”

It can present in so many ways but they’re blind to it, having projected it far, far away from what they believe is physically possible.

Anyone who thinks it’s impossible to be sexist personally, ever, at any point, is living in a bubble. Prejudices exist in all humans.

Being suspicious of all women is dodgy, being suspicious of a seductive woman, taking a sudden, keen interest in you, as warned in the Bible, is common sense.

Being distrustful of all men is off, being distrustful of a man who is insincere and keeps pushing boundaries is survival instinct.

Sexists are just lazy. Within a race, there are too many personal similarities to claim a broad genetic danger.

The psychotic thing is obvious.

“The world hates women” and “The world hates men”.

Obvious bullshit, there’s moderate but clear evidence on both sides (balance) so neither sweeping statement is true. It’s another excuse. Not to try, to abuse the “enemy” group, to get perceived revenge yada yada.

It’s actually:

The world hates (substitute for Self) so I am morally allowed to (do terrible, evil thing).

Like the #KillAllMen or Elliot murder spree fans.

It’s a selfish Crusaderism. If they clashed with that group, say SJW women to anti-SJW women, they’d hate that supposed group they claim to care about, the most of all. Thatcher gets the most hatred of any dead politician because she was a woman. In a sickening display, they got the radio to play “ding dong the witch is dead” on news of her demise. The working class loved her so the Left despise her. Great men and geniuses are envied most by omegas, they plot to literally kill people, other men are just last. It’s like Marx leeching off of Engels, a man who owned means of production. Marx lived off the blood of the worker happily.

These people are dangerous and abusive.
You love the sinner and punish the saint, you are evil. Defending deviants, rapists (of m/f), whatever it is specifically. This is not First World culture. This is childish and bitter. This is anti-justice.

“We’ll show them” they plot.

The world was right to reject them, really. That’s all they showed.

Re-watching Fight Club

The Riot Club was less on-the-nose.

Disclaimer: probably shit opinions, I am no cinephile.
It’s a cult classic but what is its cultural value now, almost twenty years later?

I still like the film but I see things in it recently I cannot ignore.
I can’t fully love it anymore. This, in spite of Peak Pitt.

TLDR: You go, emo guy!
Kinda like 500 Days of Summer but if Tom was gay and masochistic.

Also, does it piss anyone else off that Tom learned nothing at the end of that?
Is it supposed to piss me off? Well, it does. Nine years later.

Fight Club is a satire of rebellion. It’s completely safe. Even the punching has no real risk of death or serious injury. They become more drone-like in a combination of terror cell, monastery and military, but they’re too chickenshit to actually risk being shot at. They’re cowards hiding in versions of masculinity that never existed. Men didn’t go around punching a tiger to death, they raised a family. None of them do.

Imagine if (spoiler)

 

Tyler were real but Marla Singer were the imaginary one?

Imagine how much more sense that movie would make.

That’s the best theory I have. If you didn’t bring a cup of tea, you can leave on that thought. I won’t expand much on it because it is perf.

Are we ready? O.K. Pointing-out similar to The Last Psychiatrist, for time.

As it is, the control the narrator has is an illusion. The house wouldn’t exist, it’s very 90s, like the Friends apartment. There’s no way anyone involved could afford that apartment and the literal mansion wouldn’t be vacated, but it might, however, hold the Narrator’s delusions of grandeur.
He hates bosses so much he becomes a Mafia boss.
He is a sadist that enjoys listening to the pain and suffering of others. Support groups for male cancer, what a sick fuck.
He hates himself but has no self, no purpose in society.
He feels useless because he is useless.
He contributes nothing to the world that couldn’t be automated in future.
He has middle-class problems because, sorry, poor people don’t shop at Ikea.
It’s a teenage boy’s idea of rebelling, you all live in a commune (political, yes, it’s a commune) and hit your feelings out.
Er, you’re still expressing your emotions in a safe environment. It’s therapy.
You could just have got a gym sub and taken up boxing. – things a woman would say
Ah, but then he might be defeated. This is key. The Narrator refuses to take risks or they magically pay off.
He’s a Gary Stu, everything makes him more powerful and works out. For example, he isn’t caught stealing human tissue, which requires permits. There’s no regulation of his ingredients. Taxes aren’t mentioned. Now I’ve seen the tax thing, it looks like a missed opportunity for a monologue.
The locals would notice a building full of skinheads making a racket, come on.
He survives more shit than Jesus but says edgy macho tough guy stuff that would Schwarzenegger blush at how cliche and 80s it is. The fact he looks incapable of lifting an especially heavy bucket with that stringy figure makes this remarkable. He looks about 15 but talks tough. He threatens to shoot people and nobody reports him.
Really?


Look up the personality traits of male borderlines.

Marla has the female version, they’re not soulmates; they’re both crazy.
Narrator clearly has anhedonia, but only in the beginning. He isn’t an insomniac. Yet his anhedonia magically switches off in the antisocial kind to become a leader (because you can just up and decide one day) and the sexual kind (that isn’t how libido works). The guy works all hours of the week and has energy to make a toddler jealous?
It’s a parody of a revenge fantasy. The Matrix worked because it was sci-fi, the robots aren’t real either. The world knows it’s fake. The Fight Club universe doesn’t know how fake it is.
They claim to know but not a single person acts uniquely. Narrator sells shit and talks shit to hit other men.
It’s not about the women. It’s never about the women. The only woman we see is also batshit.
Where are the women? Kids? Where are the normies? Where are the happy people he hates so bad?
It’s his jealousy of other men. Wait, envy. Envy of other men. Real men. Men that are living in his head (the Cave Man as a false God of pagan freedom) and he doesn’t care if they never existed (fantasy prone but if the concept is impossible, he should care).

https://namimc.org/male-borderline-personality-disorder-know/

Complaining constantly about hypothetical abandonment is the ticker. He makes no effort to keep people in his life and secretly believes them inferior. That isn’t self-loathing, more a feature of narcissism (inferiority complex).

“Other males will “scare” their spouses away with their quick tempers, argumentativeness, and sometimes even physical aggression. An interaction with a male with BPD may include the individual saying any and everything to trigger their spouse’s anger.”

They’re not heroes, they’re the bad guys.
BPDs are a big ball of emotion. In women, it becomes internal. In men, they’re too grandiose to commit suicide so they take revenge on the world, a lot like psychopaths. They value nothing and lie to the contrary. What does the Narrator value? Only himself. Nothing else. He stands for nothing else. It’s a brittle figure of strength.
The control freak aspect is externalized. Narrator does nothing. The money he makes isn’t saved like a normal person with a brain, he spends all his time talking to himself (was Tyler’s plane seat occupied by a terrified person?) and if he can’t be happy, he’s such an omega he would rather take the whole world down with him (Savior complex) than watch someone else be happy (common in narcissism, envy triggers rage outbursts but BPDs can have rage episodes and violence triggered by envy of the happy too). If they can’t be balanced, they’ll fuck with your head too. That’s where gaslighting comes in. Narrator does indoctrinate Mayhem members like a cult.
“I’m the only one who’d have you” type of lines. Faking the moral high ground as a cover for their double standards.
Stonewalling and random requests of assistance.
BPDs can’t self-soothe, they are the original attention whores.
Narrator hates the world but responds to this by spending more time in it? Makes no sense.


Re-watching this film and actually thinking from his position, it’s insane. There’s a snowflake attachment to reality, where he expects it should be designed for him (well, that’s capitalist, so it is).

Sorry God/Daddy let you down. Setting things on fire and thinking you’re a pagan isn’t the answer.
Fuck you Dad! is not a credible life philosophy. Who will sell your Viking horn mugs?

“Do you know a male who has been with tons of women? Did this guy feel guilty or did they feel admired?”

In the latter case, either they have psychiatric immature issues / are a minor and glamorize how ‘cool’ this makes them (attention) or they’re an r-type. Out of school, nobody decent admires the impulsive, the attention dries up, gloating at how they got away with all the ‘resources’. The out-of-control aspect is common among cases of brain damage.

http://gettinbetter.com/casanova.html

I can’t think of anyone who envies the bestial, but they must imagine themselves envied to cope.

“self-sabotage in personal and professional realms”

Where was Narrator’s ambition in his old job? He’s still working. He could’ve got a better job or moved company.
Where did the magical ambition fairy pop up?
The black-outs seal it and fact he’s literally Unreliable Narrator.

“an incapacity to want you unless they can’t have you”

Peter Pan.

“A colleague who works almost exclusively with male borderlines, has told me that they generally present as commitment-phobes and sex addicts”

Imagine the film without Marla. She’s far more interesting than he is, isn’t she?
So even in a film all about men, their lives are hollow until a Manic Pixie in black comes along.

“Casanova makes sure you know how grateful he is to have finally found you, because you’re “like no other woman” he’s ever known. His enthusiasm and glee seem authentic: One of my ex’s would initially remark how great it was, that he’d finally met a female who was his “intellectual equal.””

Not that they’re writing checks on themselves they cannot cash.
Do you know how many men literally claim an IQ of 170, thinking we cannot tell?
It’s like claiming to be 7 foot tall. We’re fairly certain you’re lying.
And if Einstein was around 150, what the hell have you done with your life? Ah, degeneracy. Sleeping on couches and clubbing. Sounds more like an IQ of 70, lower IQs are more aggressive. Men who talk and talk and talk and talk, do not have anything to say. Let alone 170 in IQ points material. You wouldn’t be telling some random woman in that case, you’d be submitting it to the Nobel committee.
BPD is one of those conditions with negative self-awareness, they are among the greatest losers of society but dat
grandiosity, they claim to be the best. You know — secretly.

Otherwise their awesomeness might explode the world or something.

Random: The remarriage thing sounds like Elon, now that combustion would be entertaining to watch. It’s part of the control where they trap a woman, intending to cheat. They don’t ‘mean’ the vows but you better uphold yours! (not how it works? very stupid men)

“The brunt of his unhealed pain concerning the loss of other attachments was transferred onto me”

The BPD will deliberately cause suffering in those stupid enough to stick around them.
They vent out the pain and enjoy seeing the result of that pain in others. In a padded cell, with nobody to hurt, they’ll kill themselves rather than cope with their own emotions.
When caught, they play wounded, cry victim, gaslight the victim that they’re the ones being abusive. Look at the honest comments in any story on the topic. It’s what they do, it’s their game.

“Tears streamed down his face” imagine an adult with the brain of a toddler
that’s literally it

At least they tend to attract other shit-tier people.
Again, omit Marla because at minimum she’s female and Tyler isn’t actually there.
All of them are pathetic specimens of men. Narrator’s leadership is never challenged despite superior men physically, it’s weird.

“Borderlines thrive on crisis, drama and chaos, which contribute to their sense of aliveness--it’s the main reason why many are treatment resistant.”

Lol, nothing about Fight Club reminds me of that.

“The Chase is intoxicating for Casanova–outside of that, he gets bored. Borderline females are the only ones who are better at this game than he is~ and in truth, they can hold his attention indefinitely.”

Marla.
Your parents’ issues are not yours.
That’s an excuse, isn’t it?

“Aside from any sense of empowerment he may have derived from adopting the role of surrogate mate for Mother, replicating his father’s antics helps him identify with the dad he never had, and minimize his pain from the missing paternal bond. Stealing another man’s woman enables him to punish/shame other men, as he might have relished doing to his father, as an abandoned little boy. This pattern compulsively repeats, as he’s acting-out unresolved rage from childhood neglect and betrayal.”

Maladaptive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetition_compulsion

“Apparently, he’d needed me to desire him, to fortify his self-image.”

ah, the sad specter of the aged playboy

“Many are determined to tell me how much younger they look than their chronological age,

that’s a tell

what great lovers they are, and how every female they’ve been with sexually, has declared them “The Best!”

Ask for their social media names to check. Watch the color drain.

A confident male doesn’t need to talk about his sexual prowess, or anything else he feels sure of for that matter; income, job status, athletic superiority, good looks, academic achievements, etc.”

What does Marla say?
It isn’t a threat to you?

“Too many females are easily taken in by the Borderline’s apparent brilliance and base of knowledge. In direct contrast to the instability you’ve observed in this male, there have been times you’ve glimpsed what seems to be his wisdom, his spirituality and his incredible knack for stating things that make him sound like the absolute authority on health and well-being. Borderlines are usually plagiarists and copycats.

It goes on about their Guru Complex. Isn’t Narrator trying to be a secular Guru?
Feeling dead inside is ill, full stop.
Poor Jewish men (there’s a section).
Narrator points out his father abandoned his mother… but he hates his mother.


The father would deliberately set up multiple families (think Bruce Jenner), classic r-strategy.
The emotionally disturbed are strong projectors, don’t even need a lightbulb in there.
Combined with hazing, it’s like the military but for pussies who fear real discipline, since they lacked that growing up.

Apathy isn’t a motivation, here in the real world. They fuel themselves with spite and hatred. Of the good.
Tyler the Tyrant, worst father figure ever (with the hand burn to prove it). Self-destructive people are one thing, but to wanna destroy the world? …Like there’s no good in it, ever? Classic narc. Tough love is not repeatedly punching another man in the dick. It’s called sadism.
Fight Club is a homoerotic (men only) S&M club and I dare you to prove otherwise by definition.
Wiping out all debt is a kiddy solution to adult problems. It doesn’t change the shitty characters that got into debt.
It’s the hipster love of authenticity, via anti-authenticity. Ironic authenticity, via cookie cutter.
Like the Gary Stu of James Bond, they parody masculinity by needing to do something to prove they’re a man, and that thing is materialism. Prove it to who? Long lost Daddy. Maybe after twenty years he’ll come back. So instead of working for the Man they pay for the Man’s approval. Smart.


Nobody in Archer is likable either. All of them are trash people.

That film is far more hostile to men than it ever could be to women.
How many years are you working off the clubbing debt? Did you add up the whole shebang? Aren’t hookers cheaper? Yes, of course you’re in control, now hand over your credit card to the nice bartender for some shitty, shitty vodka.

PSA

Modern men are stupid and it makes me sad.

The self-pity pill

Male borderlines. Suicide threats give it away.

Nihilists actually laugh, it isn’t an excuse. If you’re looking for meaning, making everyone else’s business personal or saying the world Should Be a certain way (just world fallacy) then you’re not a nihilist, you’re another entitled narcissist.

Most nihilists are actually sociopaths, completely cold and thrill-seeking. They’re chilling to watch and I say that from personal experience. It’s better to have many feelings than the reverse, believe me. There’s still some potential and human in there. You can’t cut out your heart however much it hurts to feel, there’s the connection to other people you need. You gotta heal it. First step it to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get the basics down. Get a good therapist if you can afford one too. Fix yourself, reach out to others.

Suicidal ideation occurs when you want people to care about you, the classic scenario is envisaging your funeral. You’re not empty, far from it. Worry when you’re numb! Wanting people to care isn’t weak, any more than caring. Self-care is especially vital for men given your weaker social supports.

Traits of toxic people and PUA/’game’ gaslighting

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-flux/201608/8-common-traits-the-toxic-people-in-your-life
” They focus on problems, not solutions.”
e.g. Critical theory and being ‘unhelpful’ for…?
“They use other people to accomplish whatever their goal happens to be.”
e.g. PUAs. Formal term is triangulation, they tell you what you want to hear.
“They make you prove yourself to them.” You only qualify yourself to a superior, peer must be assumed until proven and isn’t based on a demographic factor, it’s individual. In the reverse…
e.g. Everyone who says, in effect ‘I dislike your opinion, so you’re part of outgroup’, a no true scotsman.
“Beware of people who find fault with you and make you wrong. Loyalty is foreign to them.”
They’re never wrong, are they? 😀
“Toxic people often make you want to fix them and their problems. They want you to feel sorry for them, and responsible for what happens to them. Yet their problems are never really solved, for once you’ve helped them with one crisis, there’s inevitably another one. What they really want is your ongoing sympathy and support, and they will create one drama after another in order to get it. “Fixing” and “saving” them never works, especially since you probably care more about what happens to them than they do.”

It’s good I already mentioned pick-up and ‘game’ because it actually follows the stages of gaslighting abuse.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/communication-success/201704/the-7-stages-gaslighting-in-relationships

I’ll illustrate with examples, where possible.
1. Women are worthless. Counter: then why are you obsessed with them? You don’t base your life around something worthless. [They don’t want women to be happy without them and without being their hookers, hence the contradiction with the Western value of liberty and tradition of not being promiscuous and degenerate (applies to both sexes). They implicitly believe ‘Women should be forced to sleep with me’. Hold up there, Mohammed! They bought into the lie of porn – all women want you and they’re ‘playing hard to get’. Sexual entitlement is the secret of a loser’s desperation. The women in porn are paid to act interested, even they’re not. They also conveniently forget a supposedly desirable harem is marriage, with Middle Eastern duties on the man, the man is 100% financially responsible and the women don’t work. They refuse to get married once and object to that polygamy because it reduces nubile supply.]
2. Women are (various bad things, implying men are not). No proof, no comparison of data from both sexes. Long opinion pieces. Counter: Differentiate that from sexism. [Third-wave Feminists do this stuff too, but everyone’s already explaining that.] Negging doesn’t even work, just look at their ‘success rate’. The terms are so Orwell.
3. (They literally tell their followers –cult– to escalate whatever criticism comes their way after attention-whoring –peacocking-, so I don’t need to put anything here. They literally use the word escalate, even when what they’re escalating e.g. ‘kino’, code for physical contact, is illegal aka assault). Search PUA+game+”escalate”
4. Aside from continuation long after it’s socially acceptable, stalking, doxing and harassment, I’d also include dogpiles and other ways to get their internet boyfriends involved to keep punching down. Because punching down, 5 or more against 1 is so much better? ‘Amused mastery’ isn’t what it sounds like, it’s the denial and dickishness women uncannily and universally despise about just these guys, since they refuse to admit any useful point (brick wall) and deny-deny-deny while claiming women are the ones denying reality. They laugh at the frustration, like children, oblivious to how stupid they objectively look (also to other men).
5. Google “dread game” it’s literally this stage. Seriously.
6. ‘Beta game’ aka pretending to be a decent person for a little while. Narcissists do this already but male borderlines need to be told how to imitate it, to get the supply they need. Most ‘game’ is feigning K-selected characteristics that are evolutionally desirable while hiding what they really are, that’s why they burn out like the psychopaths they stupidly admire – it’s one big act. They pretend being fake men for years is a strength and sunk cost means they never admit it. That’s what all the ‘macho man’ fake masculinity spiel is, they’re trying to convince themselves of the delusion. Ask them how their mother’s doing. Better yet, ask her WTH happened.
7. Look up all the quotes and forum topics on ‘game’ sites describing all women as whores that want to be raped and choked, specifically. Sometimes beaten, with fists or a belt. They really do think this, they’ve projected all their desensitized sick porn habits on the Evil Lilith Judaism myth. Men don’t dominate women, they never have, they work with women on mutually agreed upon goals, the sexes cooperate or those examples die. They’re thinking of sexual domination because they don’t think with Upstairs Brain.

In effect, these males want sex slavery without the balls to run their own life, a Mommy replacement. Remember, one of Mohammed’s ‘wives’ (captive slaves) poisoned him.

They’re not joking when they say they don’t want women to have rights because they don’t see women as human. In which case, their sexuality is dubious (bestiality? which religion is that common to again?) and they can’t expect women to do any work, including childcare. Let alone their ‘share’ of the housework.

‘Game’ proponents pretend to teach the socially inept how to find wife material. They lie to other men to make shekels and seem respectable. That’s why I did the still-popular post on What does it get you? Less than the average guy, guessing. That’s without going into the brown caste of most game practitioners, desperate in their White and Blonde fetishes/Fevers. But sure, it’s the women gagging for you, huh? They don’t select for the quality or marriage, those males (not men) don’t see it, don’t value or respect it and couldn’t keep it if it managed to fall from the sky to their lap. They sexually select (DARWIN) for cheapness, easiness and sluttiness. No wonder they keep finding women to be sexually damaged, emotionally disturbed (the ones attracted to them) and disloyal. They’re signalling what they are. Birds of a feather…

Remember!

The one common denominator in all your failed relationships, is you.