Video: Fake “Nice Guy” moves, really manipulation

If you’re doing it for a reaction, you aren’t doing it to be ‘nice’ (endogenous, innate and continues to exist in every setting with any person or even alone).

They often try to seem ‘safe’ so you depend on them and they can abuse you (inc cheating). Run.

They care about looking good, too. So they won’t own up to their actions or play dumb and blind to the true cause. Run.

Men and women are not the same but we are equal in humanity. Nobody using anybody else.

Fake nice guys are crazy.
No, clinically. There is something wrong with them.
They can’t just be normal, they feel a need to control any interaction with a regular peer.

That’s crazy.

Link: The sneaky r-type order of “We must”

It’s short and good so I shan’t quote.

http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-236/

Nick deserves the traffic, one of those.

Those people remind me of Evil!AI: We must kill the humans, so they cannot suffer any longer.
We must censor freedom, because freedom is dangerous.
We must stop the evil, by ….trumping…. it with greater evil… in the service of good. 

Mental.

They really mean “You should….” but that would require a reason, which they don’t have.

I like looking at them, staring until they feel uncomfortable and saying with a tone at normal volume “MUST I?”… “MUST I?” and keep repeating until they back off.

One of the typical codes, like “anti-racist” being, in practice, “White hatred”. Or “White Male hatred.”
“Feminist” = “I have nothing to bring to this conversation but my cunt, and I’ll keep reminding you of it.” They try this on other women, btw. We aren’t exempt.

JUST WALK AWAY IT crowd leave go now run away

These people all thrive on attention. Never trust an activist. They’ve basically admitted they wanna lovebomb and manipulate you.
“Raising awareness” is code for “Getting the attention of normal people who don’t need a BS unsolvable cause to fill their vapid life, while we slowly suck the interesting things about them out as emotional vampires.”

Link: The manipulation tactics of Trump, Sanders etc.

highexistence.com/12-psychological-tactics-donald-trump-uses-to-manipulate-the-masses/

Yes stupidity is contagious

Probably going to get a derisive snort or two for posting this, but it’s important for analysis.

I get the impression that Trump wants power at any cost, and will say literally anything to get it. It makes his actions IN the White House impossible to predict, how can you decide in favour or against an unknown?

 

10 Gaslighting Signs

http://www.psych2go.net/10-gaslighting-signs-in-an-abusive-relationship/

Salient;

  1. The Meaning of “Normal” Changes

This is one of the most obvious signs of gaslighting. If someone tries to tell you something is normal when you think it is wrong, you need to get out of that relationship.

This is like if a person does not want to take the next step in a relationship and is called a prude rather than accepting their comfort levels. Keep in mind abusers are not only in romantic relationships but even professional relationships.

p.s. It isn’t gaslighting if you request they get independently checked out by someone with your formal qualifications. I have encountered people dipshit enough to call “gaslight!”and clutch their pearls when I’ve recommended this. …It’s good mental hygiene. These are the same people who think self-diagnosis counts btw.

Women notice how you treat the rest of us

My best friend confessed his love for me but I can't love him back because of the way he's treated other girls.  

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This is very common and often a hidden factor in women supposedly ‘leading men on’ with polite affection or ‘friendzoning’ that doesn’t seem to make sense. She’s seen how you behave in a romantic context and she doesn’t know that person. She doesn’t even like that person. One of the few times 2 ladders theory comes in. She ignores it when you’re just friends but when you try to herd her into that other pen, where, as she sees it, you’re mistreating women like animals or treating them as less than human, she’s smart to say no thanks. Probably one of the things you like about her is her self-respect.

We aren’t lemmings and we aren’t as stupid as (some of) you seem to think we are. At least on social matters. If a woman lets on though, or tries to explain, she gets accused of being manipulative, when it’s social intelligence. It’s the way most women are, it’s our thing, in fact we’re being honest and a deceptive person never would be. The guys who get defensive like that are digging their own social live’s graves. Since again, all the other women are watching him react and wonder why he doesn’t get it.

Men do not appreciate this fact (that women note down all the ways you’ve treated her sex in the past, like a man noting which of his female friends is the easiest lay or the most feminist) and can be quite shocked when it comes back to bite them later, when she based a decision based on this supposedly ‘unfair’ information. Women are social creatures. It’s like seeing if a man is good with children, animals or the waiter. Or whether he has nice shoes. All of these seemingly random things are trying to infer future treatment. 

It’s easy to fake being decent now, but in a week? In a month? In a year? She’s sorting out the time wasters.

A good friend can be a bad boyfriend. The men themselves object to this as shallow (nothing to do with looks) when it’s simply an acknowledgement that they’re better in one social role than another. Better behaved. It can seem like, when the standards are higher (relationship) and the situation more intimate, they can regress and become brattish and even the parents of toddlers find them high-maintenance. The adult men do this because they figure they’re always in control and the woman can never leave (like their own mother) despite how it’s a tester for a marriage and they’re failing badly. It should be the other way around and the person should get better to know the more intimate you are, this is mature. A person should be the best at their core. If they never mature, you get middle-aged men who still think they should be able to get away with the same callous behavior of a 15-year old. When his relationships keep failing, he’ll always blame the women, especially the bitches who dared to leave him (when they gave him a chance, tried to correct him and realized he’s a hopeless case).

I think this is what women used to mean they spoke of ‘nice guys’ but the wires got crossed and came to mean indecisive pushover (it doesn’t) when used. If he isn’t nice (as a non-sexual person in any context) after he has no further use for you, he isn’t nice. He was never nice. He was probably the inverse, totally fake and manipulative. And I bet he hates children and animals and waiters and others who can see through him.

A lot of men seem to think they have a free pass on their single actions because future women or other female prospects will just discount it. Nope, that’s what men do (boys will be boys is spoken by patient men who matured out of that stage). If you treat other women badly, or have done enough to get a reputation or some stories out there, it will put off women who were otherwise on the fence, like at the initial impressions stage and they might only see you as a friend or badly behaved brother-type at best, where you feel like you have to keep explaining yourself to other women (why do you hang out with him?) and explaining away his bad behaviour like he’s a child (Little Timmy only broke the window because he’s bored). It’s quite disgusting to imagine you’d be treated that way in future once the novelty has worn off, and this goes most of all for cheats. Once a cheat, always a cheat. The only type of woman that is OK with it is also a cheat. It seriously messes up their long-term prospect in the same way as a slut becomes unlikely mother of your children material.

You can’t erect a red flag or few and wonder why people avoid you.

Naturally, we rarely discuss this with men who tend to take it too personally (you’re judging me when we’re just friends???) since it never happens in male friendships (because they’re all the same sex) and it’s alien territory (it’s just how women work, son) so we try to hint with the nice guy stuff or making it really obvious by asking how you treat your sister or mother (women you have nothing to gain from sexually). Even in jest.

You kiss your mother with that mouth?

superman drinking give up nope

Hope this made sense.

p.s. This is why women walk around in groups aside from physical safety. It’s like the crow’s nest in war films or when soldiers stand back-to-back to get a 360 degree view. To watch what, do you think?

Women: please stop negging us, it doesn’t work anymore

TLDR: Because everyone’s doing it, all the time, and it’s bleeding obvious.

eye roll omg shut up boring bored damon ian drinking

http://mattforney.com/girl-explains-not-pick-girls/

Because at least ninety percent of the messages I get use negging. And more negging. And pretty much just that, aside from some painfully unfunny banter. Banter is great—it’s what we used to call “conversation”—but you need to do it for more than two floppy sentences before you start firing random insults.

Which is why I hope these guys are just experimenting, because it’s fairly safe to assume that they know I know that negging exists. And here’s the thing: once a girl has even the sketchiest idea of what game is about, you can no longer depend on the rules to keep working the same way.

It’s literally the One Thing everyone knows about game at this point.

Negging, for example, is supposed to bring results because it reduces a woman’s status, or her perception of her status, so that you seem higher in status by comparison.

I wonder how these guys make friends?
Do they go around insulting everyone on first meeting and keep who’s a punching bag?

However, if she knows that this is the purpose of negging, and she knows you know that, then negging is essentially telling her: “I think you’re too good for me, and I’m trying to bring you down to my level.” That is about as sexy as socks with sandals. And cargo shorts. You can argue logically with that all you like, but you can’t argue with results, or lack thereof.

Everyone with an internet connection knows that by now. And peacocking but that’s hilarious, keep that up.

If you tell a girl you hate the way she looks, she won’t fancy you. Since attraction is physical. A man who attracts her will be one who likes her “Look” – a very personal thing. You’ve killed your chance with her.

If you tell a girl you hate her, due to some transient quality – she’ll believe you. And avoid you, either for judging you or because she prizes that thing. Because that’s what you do when there is awkwardness with a random (and negative sexual tension btw).

Here’s my personal favourite;

If you tell a girl she’s not good enough for you, which every single woman in the West has heard because of the absolute popularity of that one form of negging in media, if she has a brain she will scoff and you’ll complain about a bitch shield. Basically the type of attitude you’ll have created is –

mean girls regina george that's really interesting sarcasm

From what normally might be a nice girl.

We’ve heard it so much, always (deeply ironically) from ghetto rats or lower-class trash, it doesn’t work anymore. Sometimes we’ll assume you’re autistic or joking and just laugh, awkward. Planning a means to leave and never, ever speak to you again. And you choose this time to ask for numbers?? Can’t you see how ridiculous you are?

hmm uhuh o rlly really ah sure thing

The high-value ones don’t need to announce their value, let alone compare themselves to a woman, that’s what effete boys do. It’s become a DLV. If we can’t see you’re high value, you aren’t. Insults just make you look bad and give us social license to match you.

It assumes so much it’s ridiculous. That a woman can be judged on sight, Sherlock-style, that you formed that opinion regardless of your own value (sure, if your James Bond and a total 10 yourself, use it, that would be dynamite, otherwise I don’t think so, especially from a 7 or below it becomes highly amusing like watching a little kid tell you they could beat you up) and the autism-like trait of voicing that very rude opinion (definitely a No-Go in England, at least) doesn’t attract anyone. It’s supposed to be a (puerile) response to the girls who say things like “You wish” and “In your dreams”, which, if you’ve been drooling at her and staring on the Tube, is a totally fair rebuff. We have social rules for this reason, like calling any man invading personal space on purpose or taking body pics for masturbation a ‘creep’, it’s more descriptive that happens to be an insult if you do those things. You can actually get banned from the Tube for example, if you do it to enough women and they report you. There are police lines set up for this sort of thing, harassment like this it’s so common, which dumb American tourists should be told about if we didn’t expect you to behave to First World standards…

That’s deserved creep status, for example a Tube carriage isn’t a club nor should ever be treated like one, we’re there because we have to be, our social rules (in England at least) highly respect space and privacy especially in a metal can under the ground which has been used for terrorist attacks. You forgot? Yeah, we wish we could. Yeah, it’s got that cultural significance to it, that reverence, remember, and show some damn respect. Respect the cultural differences and don’t blame us when you’re arrested. American Negging is like the topping for what is already a shit sundae. It’s like walking up to a person to tell them you’re ignoring them – childish (beta-seeming) and pathetic. I tend to say “Yet you wanted to talk to me………….”

snort lol laugh haha hmph derision yeah duh really uhuh mhmm princess bride

Yes, I get this a lot.

It confuses them. They know I’m onto them. Then I walk away, if possible. They never follow from shame.

The problem with game, and negging in particular, is that it only works on insecure or damaged girls. 

A regular woman with a sense of self (aka what’s normally considered quality) will simply see it for what it is – an overt, pitiful, public attempt at emotional abuse/blackmail to foster dependence. Despite the material on Dark Triad for professional applications, regular/good women don’t want that, or there’d be no single men in prison. Again, it only works on the messed-up ones. So don’t blame the girl because you spit shit game, son. 

If you read Hare’s work on Dark Triad (really the definitive coverage) you’ll notice their personal lives are shit. In every case, it’s part of their condition. There’s a reason for that. The gains only apply in a corporate framework, which most in the manosphere don’t have, especially real MGTOW.

It’s like avoiding a street magician. You may like the odd card trick, but you feel you’ve seen it all before.

Personally, if any random bloke who was previously trying to flirt begins to insult me, I insult them right back viciously and tell them to go fuck themselves. That’s the British tradition, we’re allowed to match the rudeness of those “starting on us”. The British have a series of frames all our own, a British girl likely won’t buy into it because she sees it for what it is, we practically invented the concept with British humour e.g “who are you, mate?” is a typical British response, from men and women, to somebody overstepping their boundaries and imposing their frame. It’s been putting people in their place for centuries. I don’t date rude people, period, and insulting someone you just met, especially someone you’re supposed to like, makes me wonder what terrible company you’ll be later on.

Oh God I made eye contact with the social fuckwit losers.But hey, I’m psychologically normal, so I guess that’s the response you should expect to public verbal abuse. Online you’ll get a ‘lol no’ and a block. Don’t dish it if you can’t take it, as we’ve seen with bitchy male Tinder responses to a taste of their own medicine, because women are naturally better mindfuckers than men. This is how women fight, you’re playing a woman’s game.
Just hope no male relatives or friends are with me or your mark when you try it on. They don’t stop at verbal barrage like me. 😉 Hope you didn’t need that face for anything.

Btw, all of this I just explained is why Roosh hated London. Fair play, don’t bother with us. Our politeness conventions and etiquette are the sworn enemy of Game.

All the nice, pretty girls are hidden away at private parties and no, I won’t tell you where.