Europeans have always married in their 20s

Using my own country as an example, link other data if you have it.

I already covered the historical norm of spouses within a couple of years of one another.

This is what K-types do, get established then select a mate.
Both sexes are most fertile but least stupid in the twenties. Thank the frontal lobes.
K-types need time before they marry to mature, lest they overbreed or starve their offspring from lack of resources.

http://www.ceda.berkeley.edu/Publications/pdfs/rlee/British%20Population%20in%20the%2018th%20c.pdf

The 20th century is the outlier here. With easy divorce, they married earlier and divorced earlier, to get married more often.
Trump, for example. Yet the re-marriage problem isn’t even addressed, let alone called a sin.
By self-proclamed traditionalists, who believe in marriage. Sure, Jan.

It would be great if Americans stepped out of their bubble and learned real history instead of the BS their schools lead them to believe. I have to keep correcting errors that would embarrass a child. Boomer Professors LIED. Their normal is NOT normal!

Update: it seems they changed the link. CEDA Berkeley British population data.

They keep doing this to my links.

Whatever, I tried.

Link: Game Theory and the Marriage Market

http://www.staresattheworld.com/2015/06/game-theory-and-the-marriage-matrix/

Three considerations are missing;

  1. sleeping around used to be frowned upon, not encouraged by every medium of popular culture (easier to sell things to insecure single people), and blame was assigned correctly for the fault in a marriage, we had standards to aspire toward, the words of the very vow itself used to be legally binding
  2. adultery used to be a crime, this kept levels low and it was enforced, the concept of honour was legally binding and slandering a woman’s chastity was criminal (criminal libel and some bitchy specific forms) kept ugly girls from cutting pretty ones down with lies and gossip in the MMV/SMV
  3. obtaining divorce wasn’t the proviso of a family court “judge” but a criminal one, with a high standard of proof required to leave, divorce was rare

It is THESE things, which kept people in line and made them treat marriage seriously.

I would endorse a two-marriage cap for life (excepting widowhood). Fool me once… choose wrong twice….

Both sexes had legal protections when times were good.
Age limits to make a choice of marriage partner accounted for maturity, income, religion etc. Good matches.

From a female perspective (wait this isn’t vapid), I think women have displayed some new male-like traits in selection for good reason e.g. more emphasis on appearance, fitness and wit, because the excessive overpopulation has left us so many to choose from. We’ve always been as shallow as men (if you had to choose between two people equal in other ways but one is hotter everyone would choose the hot one come on), but now we have a lot more choice and men have to jump hoops but for dates instead of courtship and marriage. Women aren’t locked down into those choices and assume fertility is a given because of our sex. Most men nowadays are fat or not fit, so the healthy toned man is maximising his fitness signal, similar with symmetrical, masculine appearance in a world of antiandrogens, phyto and xenoestrogens. It’s like a nuclear bomb of a signal in that case:-

I’m normally totally level-headed around men but this level of genetic fitness has a profoundly distracting effect even upon me which I can only compare to Kate Upton’s bouncing tits in a wet t-shirt as an effect on men.

PC quashes genuine wit and makes it shine the brighter in bleak times and so on.
Lust is the desire to breed after all and we shouldn’t forget this, it can be a positive force. If you want to incentivize marriage, make a man invested in his children (and certain of paternity because he loves his wife) and a woman invested in her husband and his attentions (and her children because duh).

As for the warning at the end, the traditional women don’t live in that traditional society. The men are too poor to even consider marriage. Hardly a choice. A woman who waits around is going to be kept waiting forever because men think they can get the same quality of woman regardless of age.

Quick Wisdom: Every man goes his own way

Men strike silently.

When a man has a problem, he acts.
If you want to know the solution to the marriage/fertility/settling decline, consider that until it sinks in that men ultimately cannot be controlled.

If men aren’t talking, they have already decided.

Wife is a JOB title, MMV and SMV

Timely with certain undercurrents from feminists that women should be paid to work as mothers. (hold back your snort of derision, please, I know, I know…)

Graphic not mine; 10-scale also covered here and here, for variation of opinion.

If anyone's interested, there's plenty of scales too onlineSexual Market Value differs from Marriage considerations. This applies to both sexes. Heartiste has some good tests on SMV for both men and women (see top bar).

Here’s an excellent website I want to signal boost, I especially love the Wife Tests (as I usually pass them).

http://theredpillroom.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/wife-test-introduction-and-batshit-crazy.html

http://theredpillroom.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/wife-test-red-pill-alerts.html

http://theredpillroom.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-wife-test-domesticity.html

“It’s amazing how many women don’t really understand that “wife” is a job description, not a title.”

Why smart women don’t divorce;

http://theredpillroom.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/wife-test-intelligent-women-pick.html

In sickness and in health;

http://theredpillroom.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/wife-test-good-health.html

Go for natural, it can’t be faked;

http://theredpillroom.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/wife-test-attractiveness.html

Balance and assistance;

http://theredpillroom.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-wife-test-good-worker.html

Of course, if you’re MGTOW, this does not apply, but I don’t see how being informed otherwise in case you change your mind could be a bad thing.

“By all means marry. If you get a good wife, you will become happy, and if you get a bad one you will become a philosopher.” ~ Socrates

Quick Wisdom: Why aren’t young men marrying young women?

Men marry for logical reasons, they believe they need to secure a woman to keep the benefits of a relationship going (or she will leave). Women tend to marry for emotional reasons, excepting gold-diggers.

Given this, why are more men choosing to marry less?

It is illogical to do so.

Surprise! The Sisterhood lied to you to try and steal your prospects for themselves.

Surprise! The Sisterhood lied to you to try and steal your prospects for themselves.

Why? Ant and grasshopper.
If a man wanders off and makes a success of himself (attractive prospect in the marriage market) in the same time that a woman is wasting her youth (and yeah, that’s important for fertility reasons), there is no logical reason to buy in, especially when they can get a woman younger than themselves and less entitled (age does that).

What is the solution?
Women aren’t going to like it….

Become better wives.

Like a job, you need to demonstrate the skills before you get that promotion. It requires effort. Hey, just like a marriage!