Feminists v. Meninists

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11380282/Feminists-v-Meninists-The-labels-we-could-all-afford-ditch.html

When you hold a mirror up to them, they are still ugly.
Medusa couldn’t pull that off.

It’s ‘written’ by professional ditz Radhika Sanghani, and has comedic value.

Men are feeling victimised. And it’s all because of feminism.

#maletears

That seems to be the message of Mike Buchanan, leader of political party Justice for Men and Boys, which has the alliterative and depressing goal of ‘fighting feminism’.

for whom?

His main points appear to be that feminists are “hatchet-faced miserable women”; it’s not really a proper sexual offence to “pat someone’s bottom”; and he’s “not aware of a single area where women are disadvantaged relative to men.”

In other words, he’s a sexist idiot who’s too busy moaning inside his man cave to see the world for what it really is.

You’re calling him the sexist idiot? Man cave?

But somehow, Buchanan is not alone. His puerile nonsense is attracting supporters. Other men’s groups and movements are sprouting up, claiming they’re being victimised by society.

How?

People like you?

Take the tough new rape rules, which saw Director of Public Prosectutions Alison Saunders explain that ‘no means no’ isn’t enough. Men need to ensure that their sexual partners have given affirmative consent.

Rape campaigners rejoiced. But some men complained about needing to ‘get a contract’ every time they wanted a shag.

Because the expectation is on MEN only. Women have no equal obligation, or agency, it seems.

A recent Telegraph article, headlined ‘If as many women killed themselves as men, we’d never hear the end of it’, is another example.

It explains that suicide affects almost four times as many men as women. If the tables were turned, it laments, this would be top of the agenda.

Obvs. Hashtag Meninism.

We never heard the end of female *self-harm* and that’s a less serious issue than suicide. And why are men committing it? Hmm? The results of feminist social engineering. Sure, miss that out.

Meninism is the semi-satirical name given to a movement sprung from men’s rights activists (MRA). On Twitter, its main goal is to mock feminism. But many ‘meninists’ really do want to spread the word about issues affecting men. It’s similar to a Reddit subculture, known as ‘Red Pill’ – a group of social media users who feel that men, not women, have been socially disenfranchised.

A photo of a meninist on Twitter

With so many men relating to this feeling of alienation – the same one Mike Buchanan is trying to capitalise on – perhaps it’s time to ask where there is something in these labels. By calling ourselves feminists and meninists, are we actually doing ourselves any favours?

You’re making it clear feminism is a supremacy movement.

Meninists want a language and label

Maybe it’s the terminology that is disenfranchising men – intelligent men who care about social justice and equality,

oxymoron

but don’t feel that their voices are being heard? The sort of men that feminism, ironically, needs.

#HeforShe #maleslaves #EqualityEmma #menoppressus #menhelpus

Dan Bell, features editor for insideMAN magazine, tells me:

“There clearly are a lot of social issues and social exclusion where men have it markedly worse than women do.”

He lists homelessness, suicide rates, prejudice in family courts, lower life expectancy, underachievement and military death rates.

Don’t you have something to say? Oh wait, it would involving criticizing feminism. Can’t have that. #narrative

“Where people get frustrated with feminism is where it’s seen as a zero sum game. Basically that women are disadvantaged and oppressed and men aren’t.

#Patriarchy

People look at the pyramid and see a lot of men at the top, but they don’t bother to look down and see most of the people at the bottom are also men.”

He thinks that movements like ‘meninism’ were created for exactly this reason: “One of the issues, on a deeper level, is men struggle to find a language to talk about collective disadvantage in the way feminism does for women – both as a label and a set of ideas.”

Forget the battle of the sexes

He’s right, of course. There are particular social issues that affect men. And, of course, they want to talk about these.

But I find it hard to believe that the ‘bottom of the pyramid’ is full of men.

Women can’t read statistics. What a shocker.

We just can’t ignore the fact that many serious issues almost exclusively affect women – such as sexism and the gender pay gap.

In your subjective opinion, and that gap doesn’t exist as I have covered.

Others affect both genders – such as domestic violence – but have a dramatic slant towards women. Currently two women a week in the UK are killed by a current or former partner.

Conservative MP Dominic Raab, however, doesn’t think it’s helpful to view these issues in a gendered light.

The MP who once said some feminists were “obnoxious bigots”, tells me:

Dominic Raab

“Fewer and fewer issues, when they’re looked at seriously, really boil down to gender. I don’t find painting it through the prism of the battle of sexes is helpful. I’m all for girl power, but how relevant is the divide between the sexes to our daily life?”

His point is that these issues overlap both genders. Childcare isn’t exclusively a women’s problem, and neither is maternity leave or flexible working. If these issues are seen as belonging to the realm of feminism, they could leave men feeling alienated.

Five years ago, he said that men should “burn their briefs” in protest at feminists. But now he tells me that “men need to stop engaging in a pity trip about feminism”.

It won’t get you respect and/or laid.

Forget the ‘feminist’ v ‘meninist’ labels

The problem doesn’t actually seem to be feminism’s views – it’s the label, and the way that certain issues are put under its umbrella. [by whom?] Many men are automatically put and incorrectly assume that the movement is all about women taking control, and becoming ‘superior’.

That is feminism’s view. That is literally it.

But of course, it’s not about one sex being better than the other, at all. It’s just about gender equality.

No it isn’t. You just insulted men for daring to disagree with you. #mansplaining

Mike Buchanan

Deep down, it looks like this is the main goal of ‘meninism’, too.

based on………?

But perhaps these separate labels are what’s really hindering progress. Underneath it all, meninists and feminists all want the same thing – it’s just hidden underneath bickering that all seems to stem from linguistic problems.

I see a Trojan Horse. Could be her face.

Meninists imagine feminists as angry, hairy ranters – the No More Page 3 campaigners were called ‘no bra wearing man haters’ – and feminists are now starting to see meninists as whining victims.

Men can’t ever be victims. Even when they’re literally victims.

None of this is helpful, and neither is seeing serious societal issues as gendered, particularly in the run up to the General Election.

helpful to whom? She is of the journalism school which states half an opinion expecting the reader won’t miss the other.

If we all want to avoid Buchanan’s sexist manifesto really taking hold, then we’re better off ditching the labels and working together in the name of gender equality.

Who keeps pushing labels?
FEMINISM! DING DING DING!

The outrage! The posturing! Faux brain cells!