Psychopath scripts and other scumbag spotting

A highly useful article

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/brainstorm/201712/5-things-psychopaths-and-narcissists-do-in-conversation

Trying to force intimacy is prior to discovering their missing parts.

Related.

When you only have a hammer…

you’re already semi-Communist.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/understanding-the-erotic-code/201712/the-dark-side-outing-men-s-sexual-misdeeds

The authors conclude that the ultimate destination sought by men is “porntopia,” that is, a place of “sheer lust and physical gratification, devoid of courtship, commitment, durable relationships, or mating effort.” On the other hand, they call women’s desired destination “romantopia,” a place of love stories where winning hearts, overcoming obstacles, and getting married reign supreme.

When you only study porn addicts….

Men invented courtly love, so that’s totally off.
There are few poetesses.

There are plenty of masculine female porn addicts (by testosterone).

It is not difficult to see how such information, coupled with the seemingly daily exposure of some men’s unwanted sexual aggression, can lead to the pathologizing of all men as shallow beasts with no control over their impulses. As a sex therapist, however, I have seen the depth of men’s suffering around trying to bridge the gap between their attachment language and their partner’s.

When you only speaking to the suffering….

And it isn’t pathologizing if they have a pathology.
NAMALT, he cries, to cover the obvious error in logic. Even if it’s 99%, that still isn’t good, is it? Never trust a sex therapist, they are some of the worst humans in existence and want to spread the misery.

 Instead, they are hoping that their partner can understand when they use language or actions in the bedroom that may objectify the partner, they are seeking erotic intimacy.

You see, there’s the stupid illogic of saying I didn’t want to kill them, your Honour, only stab them fifty times.
You bring that suffering on yourself.

Assuming women should accommodate men when the sexes are different is absurd.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201711/the-truth-about-sex-differences?collection=1107987

Men shouldn’t accommodate women either. You negotiate and meet halfway like adults

Objectification is demeaning. It’s demeaning to male models as much as female.
You shouldn’t be demeaning anyone you personally know,it’s a form of emotional abuse, however normalised by perverts. Porn is a fantasy of women you do not know. That is the attraction. The association of objectifying them is porn-learned behaviour.

Intimacy is emotional. It doesn’t require the physical. They need to work on their emotions by speaking to the woman, not griping to another man who will console them that they’re fine – because neither get it. You’re fine, just the way you are – spoken like a true SJW. You see, the more you suffer personally, the more they gain.

Consider the source.

You don’t go to a woman for information on erections, do you?

If a woman relinquished all forms of companionship and emotional support, a man would feel repelled, however ‘good’ the sex. That is essentially what these men are doing. Do not treat your woman like a porn star. You wouldn’t want other men to and she’s the one you’re meant to love best. You can try new things without insulting a woman’s dignity, which is the more common form of virtue when chastity is out the window.

You have half the bargain. You don’t do your half, she’s in the right to walk because you fail as a spouse. If you’re not spouses, you owe nothing. She owes you nothing, because you provide no security, which all women crave. This used to be common sense.

Think back to the 50s. Did men want to think of their wife like a stripper? Did they speak of, treat her in those terms? Let alone the hooker many men think they want. Thanks MTV!

Your downstairs brain will ruin your life.

A woman’s nurturing instinct is killed dead by a man who objectifies her body, because a woman’s most precious resources are inner beauty.

Happy husbands do not objectify their wives, this erodes love over time. This should rest my case but you can’t tell a blind man what he’s missing.

 The least helpful thing one can do is succumb wholly to one’s bias toward a feminine approach to relationship, forcing the man into greater feelings of self-loathing, shame, and suppression of his desires.

Sex therapist encourages fornication.

Is that not unhealthy for the men too?
I mean, impulse control in men is just so 19th Century, and we all know how poor the quality of those average men.

And bias? If it isn’t a choice, or an obligation, how is bias the correct term?

Without balancing both of men and women’s sexual and relational needs, there is a risk of creating even more distance between them.

The Sexual Revolution has only been good for us. We are never/always at war with dissatisfactionBad sex is the cardinal sin. You have too much/too little/bad quality and there’s always, ALWAYS something wrong with yougimme money. I can’t fix the problem though, that’s down to you, and whether you feel you need more development work Mafia style beat downs to your ego, courtesy of the people who know your body better than you and just care too damn much. They only want world peace! A fuck-a-thon orgy for peace!

How about a balance of life and death? Hunger and gluttony? Nude and prude?

A balance between good and evil is not physically possible, and that keeps ‘therapists’ rolling in bucks. Either it’s prosocial or antisocial. What is sleeping around? What is an objectifying (psychopathic) attitude to the pair bonding event of sex?

Ugh, r-vendors.

At least preachers are sincere.

Psychopaths objectify naturally, we’re all ants to them. Used/abused/crushed to amuse.

Those of us who have studied and trained in the concept of healthy sexuality—not just sexual pathology—realize the vast ranges of erotic expression in humans. We have barely begun to open to the idea that what has been acceptable culturally—heteronormative, monoganormative, and vanilla sex—does not begin to address who we really are.

“Vanilla sex” is actually healthy, normal, evolutionary sex. If you can’t appreciate normal sex, there is something medically wrong with you.

There’s the money, there’s the sale, there is what you’re really paying for.

Degenerates. Always preaching, always selling.

Go gay for Putin!

To think of all men as having pathological attitudes about sex is a sure way to shut down the emerging awareness of the myriad ways in which we can healthfully engage in this most basic expression of love and attachment, and differentiate it from the unhealthy ways we are seeing it played out in the media

He just said it isn’t about love and is 100% lust but ignore logic.
OMG it’s basic how can you argue with something so basic just go to a standard fuckparty and express yourself so basic, the only way to attach to another human being requires the Kama Sutra (btw quite a shit book).

Related, do gaslighters know what they’re doing?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/are-gaslighters-aware-what-they-dov

Duh. They know they get a thrill out of putting down good/kind/vulnerable people.
You wonder why there are less of them in the world?

The manipulations of gaslighters.

The Alt Right has been flooded with them, power-tripping on the quickly disappearing women and ‘beta virgins’ – no, they won’t read any evolution that makes them know how dumb they are.
“it’s okay to bully you, we’re on the same side” (in evidence, they only care about themselves, not even other white men)
“take a joke, you’re not allowed to be offended by banter” (British term, stop using it America)
“you’re too sensitive, stop caring about things” (not inc. their shit-tier opinions)
“what a loser” (by their highly subjective standards where they are #1 alpha dog in charge)

It would be sad if they weren’t so toxic. Gaslighters are a type of emotional vampire, this is why they threaten to leave – they feed on the drama of being begged to stay.

They leave when the host runs out of histrionics they can cause/manipulate (narcissistic supply) and they kill whatever movement they’re in (the cause of the manosphere implosion).

Men are dumb to gaslighters, failing to distinguish it from regular bullying or, in denser cases, bonding banter. When someone ostracizes you for existing, they’re not trying to bond?
It’s actually the Mean Girls unique form of bullying, deeply female. Isolation, esteem pummeling, all girls have experience with this. Bitchy traps like “you’re really pretty…. so you agree?” are tactically designed to plant a poisonous little seed of doubt or trigger some pain, the stupid men tend to skip ahead and insult a woman’s body parts e.g. her womb and/or fuckability, same as Mean Girls – pregnancy/whore slander and sluttiness/prude impossible fake standards. Think how low a man must be to verbally abuse a woman by her children, existent or not?

Others gaslight in order to feel some sense of control in their own lives by making others depend on them. Gaslighting can also be part of an authoritarian personality. A person with an authoritarian personality tends to think in absolutes: Things are 100 percent right or 100 percent wrong. When a gaslighter thinks that they are not the problem and everyone else is, this is called having an ego-syntonic personality.

It can be very difficult to get ego-syntonic gaslighters into treatment; they believe nothing is wrong with them.

That is called a lie.
In truth, they don’t care or see it as an advantage.
They’re the atheistkultists who lie about Darwin.

A gaslighting spouse or partner may either refuse to go to therapy, or if they do attend with you, they may tell the therapist that you are the problem.

If the therapist recommends that the gaslighter changes a behavior, the gaslighter will label the therapist as incompetent.

Even in therapy, a gaslighter may not truly be aware of, or may refuse to acknowledge that their behavior is the problem.

Worthless scum.

Even if a person is practicing gaslighting behavior without being consciously aware of it, they may get a “payoff” when their victim becomes more dependent on them. And then the cycle continues. The gaslighter also gets a “boost” when there are no checks and balances in place—no one holding them accountable for their behavior.

They claim not to be aware but they know it makes them feel strong?

K.

Someone fell for it. The sob story.

If a gaslighter is not aware of their manipulative behavior, that does not make it acceptable—it is still pathological, and it is still their responsibility. For gaslighters who have read up on this behavior or were taught it, of course, the same rule applies.

People tell them constantly. The definition of insanity? They’re just dense, they will never learn, so they’re commonly just a type of sociopath forever blaming their parents.

Negging is like gaslighting lite. They act like it’s nothing but select for the broken, like attracts like. Anyone with a spine is a ‘bitch’ or in the case of men, ‘an asshole.’ Lord Fauntleroy wants his way so the world must bow to Little Emperor…

Link: Men explain things to me

https://www.guernicamag.com/rebecca-solnit-men-explain-things-to-me/

I did have a post explaining the real features of mansplaining but I need to find it to post it. At least I doubt I posted it. It’s hard to keep track. This will be blunt for the spergs.

You’re not holding court if the other party hates you and wants to leave.

I have never seen a woman do it. We keep out. It seems a male feature, especially a bitchy gamma male type. Internet bitch fights between guys. Think the atheist talking about sky fairies when nobody asked.

When men do it to other men, which is uncommon, they’re just called jerks.
There should really be a term for this behaviour though.

It’s toxic, it’s antisocial and it’s ignorant to think a conversation is an excuse to chop the other party down.
You can say someone’s wrong if you think, but there’s a respectful adult, mature way, and then the way where you make them never want to speak to you again and act like it’s their fault you’re an ass.

Also a favourite with the guys who complain of being friendzoned. They’re normally not friends but acquaintances.
I insult her! I demean her! I disrespect her! Why won’t she date me? I’m such a Nice Guy!

Really they’re passive aggressive and blow hot and cold while thinking they’re being smouldering and mysterious.

One of the assumptions is that a woman, despite credentials, has no idea what she’s talking about (even as she’s teaching you the thing, thereby proving it) or randomly invalidating their opinion purely because they’re a woman (that’s just sexist, like when SJWs dismiss men on that basis).

Opinions don’t need to be right.

 

So the bloviating moron just rattles off his opinion like a fact glibly and expects the presumably ditzy girl to be sexually impressed. And that’s the worst part, they think cocky is sexy.

No woman fancies House.

None.

Have you noticed that?

…Why do you do this?

It’s the shittiest flirting tactic known to man.

Look how smart I am! they think they’re signalling.

Look how obnoxious I can be! women see.

You are not at work and you’re not the boss there either, so you couldn’t bully people like that at work. If you did bully work inferiors, they’d leave. If you’re mean when you’re trying to be ‘nice’ on first meeting, imagine what an asshole they think you are once they get to know you, who wants to? Really it’s the bottom rungs of men who do this because negative attention is better than none, they’re already unattractive but this makes it hard to look past because there isn’t even inner beauty or some sympathy.

Woman thinks:

Why should I be nice and carry you in this conversation? Next!

It’s this alpha posturing BS going round. The old term for this? False bravado.

It’s fake as those thots’ nails. Pretending it’s about the intellect doesn’t make you less superficial than a guy in a tight tank top, you’re still being vain. It’s a false image of leadership. Who is inspired by catty comments?

There’s a sexual element where it’s like negging but instead of appearance or something superficial like a laugh or posture, they’re dehumanizing you. It’s the dehumanization part that rings true to regular, non-SJW women and made this such a Thing, thanks to EQ. I’ve had men on here try to deny women’s EQ when there are plenty of studies, since the idea of women being good/better at anything triggers them to their tiny fragile peanut balls, but then go on to say women are too sensitive. ….like -how? How does your brain keep you alive when it’s so dumb?

They’re patronizing but in doing so, demonstrating their stupidity. If the woman defends herself, let alone fighting fire with fire? He gets really offended and maybe calls her a sexist bitch.

ugh.

You don’t take the time (SQ) to explain something for free only for the ingrate to turn around and begin implying that, because they don’t like what you say, you have no right to say it.. also because you have tits. Ironically they talk about freedom of speech constantly…. yeah, they just mean their speech. So you can’t punch them for being jerks….

That was April 2008 and it struck a chord.  It still seems to get reposted more than just about anything I’ve written at TomDispatch.com, and prompted some very funny letters to this site. None was more astonishing than the one from the Indianapolis man who wrote in to tell me that he had “never personally or professionally shortchanged a woman” and went on to berate me for not hanging out with “more regular guys or at least do a little homework first,” gave me some advice about how to run my life, and then commented on my “feelings of inferiority.”

Don’t be this guy.

If it’s something a nosy old woman might say, don’t.
Hearing something you don’t like isn’t a personal insult.

Don’t make it personal.

He thought that being patronized was an experience a woman chooses to, or could choose not to have–and so the fault was all mine. Life is short; I didn’t write back.

the way someone else speaks to you is THEIR fault

they are the responsible one for their tongue

even being wrong isn’t a provocation

it’s a learning opportunity

a bonding opportunity

or maybe that’s my EQ talking

not a bitchy high horse shade-throwing competition

cause?

straight men are acting gay

to attract women

it puts off women

homosexual men do this

that’s why they do it

they always did this

look at Oscar Wilde!

Young women subsequently added the word “mansplaining” to the lexicon. Though I hasten to add that the essay makes it clear mansplaining is not a universal flaw of the gender, just the intersection between overconfidence and cluelessness where some portion of that gender gets stuck.

arrogance

empty arrogance

nothing between the ears

literally no self-awareness, like, autistic levels but no autism

It’s like being nagged but about something you don’t need to do, by someone who acts like they know you and has no idea what they’re talking about. They seek you out and maybe corner you and trap you with a question to make it look less like bullying.

to the sincere fools:

you can’t banter until there’s a bond

Busybodies is too archaic a term. The worst were crotchety old men. At least the women would feed you and it wasn’t about sex.

The funniest are when any woman who uses this word gets mansplained by a broflake guy who says he’s never seen or done it.

It’s a thing you do, that’s why the word is used.
It just isn’t always directed at women, but when it is, there’s a significantly patronizing power dynamic imbalancing tone, regardless of the actual status of individuals involved.

The other cause? Smartphones.

They can’t hold a conversation anymore, we blame the internet.

Then there’s the sociopathic nutjobs-

On two occasions around that time, I objected to the behavior of a man, only to be told that the incidents hadn’t happened at all as I said, that I was subjective, delusional, overwrought, dishonest–in a nutshell, female.

That’s misogyny and gaslighting.

You are woman, therefore must be <character insult>, it’s defamation.
Men used to hold their tongue in days of dueling.

The craziest ones you’ll ever see think they’re playing Freud and can sit judging all women as inferior because they imagine a fetish of theirs, daddy issues (plot twist: because they have the daddy issues) and begin seeing insanity or dishonesty everywhere… because they need a shrink themselves. Put down the schoolgirl/teacher porn!

Men explain things to me, still. And no man has ever apologized for explaining, wrongly, things that I know and they don’t.

that’s the virtue of humility

let me end with

Surely one of these men has died of embarrassment, but not nearly publicly enough.

A shrink on sexual harassment “can’t you take a compliment?”

It’s odd how men will admit women are sensitive about their appearance then continue to attack us on it.

Yeah, that’s bullying. Even in school, that is not flirting.

A delightful, common sense explanation.

In before autism;

If you DON’T ‘believe’ in sexual harassment – go to a gay bar on a Saturday.

See how long you last.

That is a woman’s life.

Men are lecherous pigs, regardless of sexuality. What does a lecherous woman look like? A man.

Since any reading this and disbelieving are cowards, simply ask every woman you know and care about (assuming any stuck around you) about their experiences. There are always experiences, regardless of ‘age’ and seeming ‘fuckability’. Don’t talk over them excusing it, just ask the question, shut up and listen.

Actually, 9/10 male rudeness is the inability to shut up and listen. There are studies.

OT Rape accusations imply guilt. A totally honest man needn’t fear them.

https://www.jeunesepayne.co.uk/single-post/2016/11/07/Sexual-Harassment-%E2%80%9CCan%E2%80%99t-you-take-a-compliment%E2%80%9D

“When someone shouts across the street at me “show us your cunt”, or even just wolf-whistles, it’s not because they think it’s going to make me feel good.

It’s a reminder that they could overpower and attack you. R-types don’t care for rule of law, Ks are respectful (either ignoring you in public or getting introductions the decent way).
I saw a very right-wing blog post an article about how the author could easily rape any woman he likes.
In quite graphic detail and practically frothing at the prospect. I don’t read that blog anymore.
This was supposed to scare us all straight (and into agreement with him).

Rape isn’t funny to women, it appalls us (ESPECIALLY the conservative ones), it’s worse than murder. Imagine getting castrated, male power stripped and stolen. Rape is worse for women, at the very least for the conception aspect. A man joking about rape is an r-type trying to pass for K (strong). Those are the worst.

When women see a man seriously laugh (not from shock, but enjoyment) at domestic abuse or whatever sexual ‘prank’ is going on, it would be like watching a woman laughing at a man gored on barbed wire in WW1. Our thought is always the same: what if that were me?

This is why women choose compassion in mate selection studies.

Which sex has the blacker humour?

“Can’t you take a joke?”

Is civilization a joke? They make me wonder.

This is why the right wing’s reputation suffers. Manwhores cosplaying Patriarchy. They seem to think it means concubines and slavery, rather than monogamy and industry.

As for the genuine conservatives…

If they can’t fuck it or kill it, they’re probably going to insult it.

It’s not a well-intended or genuine interaction. They’re not even under some misguided impression that such comments will make me want to have sex with them.

Some are truly that stupid.

Thought process as follows:

If I make her hate me, it’ll remind her of my mother/her father.

Presuming all fathers are incompetent (r-selected) as his. Another layer of insult.

Resent women? No! I simply happen to crush and abandon them all by sheer coincidence!
Distrust women? Sure! They made me leave them! Projection’s only real when women do it!

It’s simply an exertion of power. The aim is to get approval or laughter from others, and discomfort or gratitude from me.

That is better known as sadism.

It is caused by degenerate media, especially the supernormal stimuli of HD streaming online porn.
I guarantee you 100% of those males are porn addicts, the female leches too. The testosterone has to go somewhere, they lack the impulse control (hypofrontality) and time preference to do something good with it.

A compliment is something you would feel comfortable giving a man, woman, or child because you believe it would make them feel good. You’re not boosting anyone’s self-esteem by reminding them that, by society’s standards, “you look acceptable enough for me to fuck”.”

There is always the insult that your primary value is whether they’d use you as their whore.

They’re calling you a whore.

That’s what no woman will admit.

You’re soliciting women on the street. As a whore. But at least whores can charge.

They refuse to accept they’re being rude but they wouldn’t say it if children were present. They desperately want attention but project this onto the provocateur (and looking good isn’t an excuse for anything, is it?) although differing tastes apply, so you can’t even hide your attractiveness since they’ll always be someone Into That. [cough pervert cough]
In conclusion, blame porn. Speaking to people like that (a whore) might not even be acceptable in a purely sexual, private interaction. If they’re smart, they’d leave immediately. It’s demeaning, dehumanizing and morally bankrupt, like the source.

Provocateur is a word I use deliberately… it’s never applied to men, is it?
There’s no such thing as Adam Teasing and Taharrush ‘games’ go after… which sex?

Misandrist women avoid men but misogynistic men seek out women.

Hello, the bulk of MGTOW.

They seek women out to punish them [1]  for what is perceived (projection) as the other’s wrongdoing. It’s never them, never examine the self!!!

Sexual predators, sexual sadism.

I guess womb envy comes into it somewhere but mention that after they play the feminist ‘Penis Envy’ record for the millionth time and suddenly the concept might be shaky? [SJWs lie, r-types lie, logic is a lie to them, thinking is K]

1 Who are you? You can’t lose the chub and get a good job, get out of anyone’s face. At least join a church or Greeenpeace or something. A useful Crusade.

I know, I know.

“Yes, but –

What about men?”

…What about the men?

Where are the men when this happens? [2]

Women exist, women are the fair sex. Women will be sexually harassed as long as we live. Men need to police other men, we certainly can’t.

Think too of the racial and class angles.

Is this acceptable as a way to treat people in the first world?

2

Sign of an r-type male: when you defend a woman from attack (and attack it is), you get accused of White Knighting. Yes, but White Knights are a good thing (Ks) and protect other Ks from monsters…

They never speak to men that way, knowing the odds of an altercation. Cowards to boot. Sexual competition makes the rabbit flee. At times, they’ll use the term incorrectly (in defense of another r) as a compliment of her sexual quality (lie) to get her into bed. It uses triangulation, the common manipulation tactic. Are those men crazy? Probably male borderline, it’s under-diagnosed. It would explain their romantic or intimacy issues that can be masked socially to some extent. R-types fear intimacy because it leads to responsibility and commitment, turn-offs. R/K does neatly align with attachment conditions (anxious-avoidant, secure)…. with the Mother (Freud wins).

Another sign “why are women so easily offended?” [3]

Only the ones around you.

Hm.

Yes, it’s definitely us…

all three billion of us, currently. And they say women can’t do maths?

3

Prelude to gaslighting, All women are crazy bullshit. Pathologizing a problem makes it go away!

See also the classic “why won’t women-” do whatever Lord Fauntleroy wants?

Narcissistic entitlement brewing up to rage. Histrionic, effete rage.

Women: please stop negging us, it doesn’t work anymore

TLDR: Because everyone’s doing it, all the time, and it’s bleeding obvious.

eye roll omg shut up boring bored damon ian drinking

http://mattforney.com/girl-explains-not-pick-girls/

Because at least ninety percent of the messages I get use negging. And more negging. And pretty much just that, aside from some painfully unfunny banter. Banter is great—it’s what we used to call “conversation”—but you need to do it for more than two floppy sentences before you start firing random insults.

Which is why I hope these guys are just experimenting, because it’s fairly safe to assume that they know I know that negging exists. And here’s the thing: once a girl has even the sketchiest idea of what game is about, you can no longer depend on the rules to keep working the same way.

It’s literally the One Thing everyone knows about game at this point.

Negging, for example, is supposed to bring results because it reduces a woman’s status, or her perception of her status, so that you seem higher in status by comparison.

I wonder how these guys make friends?
Do they go around insulting everyone on first meeting and keep who’s a punching bag?

However, if she knows that this is the purpose of negging, and she knows you know that, then negging is essentially telling her: “I think you’re too good for me, and I’m trying to bring you down to my level.” That is about as sexy as socks with sandals. And cargo shorts. You can argue logically with that all you like, but you can’t argue with results, or lack thereof.

Everyone with an internet connection knows that by now. And peacocking but that’s hilarious, keep that up.

If you tell a girl you hate the way she looks, she won’t fancy you. Since attraction is physical. A man who attracts her will be one who likes her “Look” – a very personal thing. You’ve killed your chance with her.

If you tell a girl you hate her, due to some transient quality – she’ll believe you. And avoid you, either for judging you or because she prizes that thing. Because that’s what you do when there is awkwardness with a random (and negative sexual tension btw).

Here’s my personal favourite;

If you tell a girl she’s not good enough for you, which every single woman in the West has heard because of the absolute popularity of that one form of negging in media, if she has a brain she will scoff and you’ll complain about a bitch shield. Basically the type of attitude you’ll have created is –

mean girls regina george that's really interesting sarcasm

From what normally might be a nice girl.

We’ve heard it so much, always (deeply ironically) from ghetto rats or lower-class trash, it doesn’t work anymore. Sometimes we’ll assume you’re autistic or joking and just laugh, awkward. Planning a means to leave and never, ever speak to you again. And you choose this time to ask for numbers?? Can’t you see how ridiculous you are?

hmm uhuh o rlly really ah sure thing

The high-value ones don’t need to announce their value, let alone compare themselves to a woman, that’s what effete boys do. It’s become a DLV. If we can’t see you’re high value, you aren’t. Insults just make you look bad and give us social license to match you.

It assumes so much it’s ridiculous. That a woman can be judged on sight, Sherlock-style, that you formed that opinion regardless of your own value (sure, if your James Bond and a total 10 yourself, use it, that would be dynamite, otherwise I don’t think so, especially from a 7 or below it becomes highly amusing like watching a little kid tell you they could beat you up) and the autism-like trait of voicing that very rude opinion (definitely a No-Go in England, at least) doesn’t attract anyone. It’s supposed to be a (puerile) response to the girls who say things like “You wish” and “In your dreams”, which, if you’ve been drooling at her and staring on the Tube, is a totally fair rebuff. We have social rules for this reason, like calling any man invading personal space on purpose or taking body pics for masturbation a ‘creep’, it’s more descriptive that happens to be an insult if you do those things. You can actually get banned from the Tube for example, if you do it to enough women and they report you. There are police lines set up for this sort of thing, harassment like this it’s so common, which dumb American tourists should be told about if we didn’t expect you to behave to First World standards…

That’s deserved creep status, for example a Tube carriage isn’t a club nor should ever be treated like one, we’re there because we have to be, our social rules (in England at least) highly respect space and privacy especially in a metal can under the ground which has been used for terrorist attacks. You forgot? Yeah, we wish we could. Yeah, it’s got that cultural significance to it, that reverence, remember, and show some damn respect. Respect the cultural differences and don’t blame us when you’re arrested. American Negging is like the topping for what is already a shit sundae. It’s like walking up to a person to tell them you’re ignoring them – childish (beta-seeming) and pathetic. I tend to say “Yet you wanted to talk to me………….”

snort lol laugh haha hmph derision yeah duh really uhuh mhmm princess bride

Yes, I get this a lot.

It confuses them. They know I’m onto them. Then I walk away, if possible. They never follow from shame.

The problem with game, and negging in particular, is that it only works on insecure or damaged girls. 

A regular woman with a sense of self (aka what’s normally considered quality) will simply see it for what it is – an overt, pitiful, public attempt at emotional abuse/blackmail to foster dependence. Despite the material on Dark Triad for professional applications, regular/good women don’t want that, or there’d be no single men in prison. Again, it only works on the messed-up ones. So don’t blame the girl because you spit shit game, son. 

If you read Hare’s work on Dark Triad (really the definitive coverage) you’ll notice their personal lives are shit. In every case, it’s part of their condition. There’s a reason for that. The gains only apply in a corporate framework, which most in the manosphere don’t have, especially real MGTOW.

It’s like avoiding a street magician. You may like the odd card trick, but you feel you’ve seen it all before.

Personally, if any random bloke who was previously trying to flirt begins to insult me, I insult them right back viciously and tell them to go fuck themselves. That’s the British tradition, we’re allowed to match the rudeness of those “starting on us”. The British have a series of frames all our own, a British girl likely won’t buy into it because she sees it for what it is, we practically invented the concept with British humour e.g “who are you, mate?” is a typical British response, from men and women, to somebody overstepping their boundaries and imposing their frame. It’s been putting people in their place for centuries. I don’t date rude people, period, and insulting someone you just met, especially someone you’re supposed to like, makes me wonder what terrible company you’ll be later on.

Oh God I made eye contact with the social fuckwit losers.But hey, I’m psychologically normal, so I guess that’s the response you should expect to public verbal abuse. Online you’ll get a ‘lol no’ and a block. Don’t dish it if you can’t take it, as we’ve seen with bitchy male Tinder responses to a taste of their own medicine, because women are naturally better mindfuckers than men. This is how women fight, you’re playing a woman’s game.
Just hope no male relatives or friends are with me or your mark when you try it on. They don’t stop at verbal barrage like me. 😉 Hope you didn’t need that face for anything.

Btw, all of this I just explained is why Roosh hated London. Fair play, don’t bother with us. Our politeness conventions and etiquette are the sworn enemy of Game.

All the nice, pretty girls are hidden away at private parties and no, I won’t tell you where.