“Women used to be ladies”

The latest meme making an irritating entrance into popular thought.

TLDR; read bolded.

It’s intended to insult clubbing culture (fine, ban clubs, otherwise, STFU about them).

Like most memes appealing to history, it’s misled at best, misleading at worst.

Rewind to the earliest times with video.
Ladies have fun too. Anything less is an overhanging lie from the Sexual Revolution.

“Yes but women used to be demure and coy, they didn’t dress and act like sluts.”

It is ironic the modern man has such a lax definition, as if looking at a man ‘the wrong way’ is slutty.

Women have always ‘made eyes’ at men, because we have eyes. When we use them, we’re accused of making eyes because studies show men are acutely sensitive to social overtures from women.


Maybe, just maybe, the nature of people doesn’t change much over time, and not everything is about you and how hard done-by you are? The term for that is a victim complex.
Look up the Evelyn Nesbit scandal, it was their OJ.
They even had versions of the Kardashians, pin-up girls before pin-ups, which really date back to the 18th century and painted adverts. If you believe any advert, it’s a de-facto IQ test and you lost.


Maybe read some social history before acting like you understand all women?

Especially those in other time periods.

^If that were true, you’d be a billionaire selling us bullshit. Advertising people understand people.

Funnily enough, women tend to be up on social history, so I find a meme that relies on our collective ignorance of it rather entertaining. The average woman knows as much social history trivia as a man knows military.

In perfect truth, such males want to castigate degeneracy without drawing attention to their own.

Let alone limiting it. R-types playing K.

This is intellectually dishonest, an argument based on bad rhetoric, bad faith, historical ignorance and makes for a coward. If you’re irritated that, in a world where sex is freer than ever, you still cannot get laid, perhaps the problem is not the people you fail to impress?

Maybe the problem is that you keep bitching like a gay guy.

Don’t look at a pretty woman and think the modern version of ‘ANKLE?!!!!‘ only to wonder why you’re labelled a creep and become a social leper. Offended people on this stuff are dull from birth.

Look and think ‘that’s nice’ and move on with your day because this superficial shit is not, by definition, important.

The women least likely to wear a miniskirt are prostitutes, because the goods are not given away for free.

Everything you know is wrong.

Ask a man with sisters if he judges their sexual desperation on what they wear.

Imagine if we applied the same judgementalism to men – all short-sleeve shirts are hereby signs of a gigolo. Shorts? Whore! Wear trousers like a proper man!

Only in the 20th century did it suddenly become acceptable (imho, no) for an adult man to wear shorts. It was considered ridiculous and you’d be mocked for it like turning up to a funeral in assless chaps, as was going topless until coal-miners striked because of job demands. This is the God’s honest truth. Look it all up. Shorts are literally the most immodest thing a man can wear, the male mini-skirt. It’s worse than a mini-skirt because things can play peek-a-boo. Short sleeves come in a close second and were taken up by the Italians with the sleeveless ‘wife-beater’ where they both should have been left, men couldn’t show their waistcoat at the beginning of the 20th Century.

Casual or modest, pick ONE.

I heard this meme from Clarey on YT years ago – he immediately began to criticize every modest fashion going, with an emphasis of vitriol for the maxi skirt. …That’s just a skirt. It’s a term for a proper skirt.

This stuck in my mind because I assumed it was a joke and waited for the punchline, the hypocrisy was so overt to a non-American. You have no idea what you want, but you know how much you want it!

He hated totally normal skirt lengths, pictured in the Edwardian videos, because it covered women up and he couldn’t ogle them, no more than five seconds after saying, to paraphrase- Why don’t women dress like ladies anymore?

The problem is male demand.

Male demand for risque fashions. Rappers are the main problem.

You can see how years of this from Kindergarten can make for avoidance of anyone who tries to pull it.

You can’t countersignal if nobody values your opinion to begin with. Look through the photos of the men saying these things and you’ll quickly realize they attract casual women because they are casual men. I haven’t seen a single one that owns a single (ONE) good suit. A good suit, by style standards and formality rules. Not a great suit, not an impressive suit, not an elegant suit, not a gentleman’s suit. A single decent item.

Which brings me to my next point: how do you intend to pay for that?

More fabric, more $$$$$. That is not a typo. A suitable wardrobe is 4-figures, a good one is five. This is based on wear and variety for activities. Being formal is more expensive, rappers lie.

Look at the guys making these claims about ladies. Are they gents?

Any woman looking at these guys will immediately notice the discrepancy, it’s like…

Which fork, Forney?

They have no clue of basic etiquette and try to prattle on like a stage mother.
They are alcoholics who couldn’t tell you the difference between a white wine and red wine goblet if their lives depended on it.

Nobody takes this ‘advice’ seriously. They have nothing to offer but opinion and personal complaint.

The funniest thing my society friends ever heard about women’s fashion was one drab man telling, loudly, anyone who would listen, that spaghetti straps were the sign of a slut.

This story still does the rounds and I’ve heard people quoting it without getting the joke.
Guess the nationality. Go on, guess. I think we all know.
Guess what he was wearing with his bad tan and fake Rolex he kept showing to people who could tell the difference.

These are the guys who refuse to buy a drink to assert interest (formal politeness) or buy a dinner they invited their intended to (the formal rule) but they want a woman with expensive taste?

Are you quite sure?

They slob around in t-shirts and shorts, in general, and wonder why the women draped in £3,000 Dolce don’t give them a second look. Class does come into it. The problem is, they have none.

Therefore, they refuse to see it as an issue…. because it IS the issue.

Women do not qualify to men. Eggs are expensive.

However, not looking like ‘Kevin the teenager’ helps.

Would you show up for a job interview wearing this? Are you using it for a sport? If the answer to both is NO, do NOT wear it out of the house and for the love of Christ get a good suit before you start spouting off on Patriarchy and the dire need of male leadership.

You don’t care how you look? Yes, it shows.

Hate sluttiness? Push to ban all contraception and sexual health clinics. Yes, all.

Hate immodest clothing? Push for Elizabethan clothing laws. Yes, in social history, there are many, many actual, literal laws that restricted things like length for modesty, and most women are aware of these. It would also mean strippers are illegal and you can’t pretend to be rich in clubs without actually being rich.

I don’t expect these guys to grow the balls, ..do you?

Conformity is a feminine virtue, as I mentioned earlier, so don’t blame all women for the actions or obscenity of singular examples, otherwise, all men are like Jack the Ripper; non sequiturs about men would be far more insulting.

Why aren’t women virtuous, they ask, not a virgin themselves.

Because none of the previous words will get through to ‘these’ people.

We mock idiots like you.

Video: How to get offended

Status signalling, the modern fainting couch. Pass the salts, Ruth!

It’s a tantrum, pick the most trivial thing and nag anyone around you about it because Power is evil. It’s weirdly fascist to argue who should get what from a position of equality.

PC, the never-ending euphemism treadmill and doublespeak of modern sin.

A very passive aggressive censorship.

A self-righteous indignation.

Look up the definitions of bigot and gaslighting and see if you can spot a difference.

There is no right answer to get.

You should know what you did.” [1] followed by what they hope is a stern, disapproving, matronly expression. I have experienced that. They deny Burden of Proof habitually. Any personal responsibility, really. The ‘I can’t believe you just said that’s [2] of the world.

1 The correct answer is I am not a telepath, adults talk about things, Sue. Now do you want your rattle or will you just throw it out the pram again? Also acceptable is Okay, Mom since it’s creepy and Freudian, like them.

2 The correct answer is I can believe that. like they are the dumbest person you ever met (they’re certainly a candidate). Alogia works excellently on SJWs, considering most of them have thought disorders and intellectual disabilities and do it themselves [3]. Two walls, talking. Have fun chiding yourself.

3 In before ‘that’s abuse’: they start it, they know what stonewalling is, they intend to humiliate you like a sociopath and it is unprompted, a coward’s mode of attack. Treat them like the emotional children they are and give them a taste of their bitter medicine. Ultimately, this is why ignoring them works, since they dearly crave attention.

Mansplain Bingo

mansplain-bingo

really mansplaining refers to debate practices done incorrectly or in bad faith
it’s all about the pretentious people appealing to their own authority
in lieu of proof/s
they lack honour but go on to disrespect their opponent while refusing to let them leave
trans. intellectually dishonest bullies
aka It can’t be antisocial if I use big words! Stop crying! Stop hitting yourself!
they assume an authority above the other speaker without anything to back it up
it’s just extremely more typical for the male to bitch with rationalizations to feel intellectual

it’s a logical fallacy to wield the terms and ideas of logic incorrectly
their own emotional high rests on their opponents’ ignorance of correct form
like kicking sand in their eyes in a fight
they’re low
they need to cheat because they’re scum

no parties involved can commonly articulate this because neither of them fully know the rules

in short, in response to one stupid person/group, you get the REAL triggered group

they pretend to be offended by lies, but it’s really personal -like, REALLY personal

the opposite of gentlemanly (correct form) making them instant losers

going “achtually” when nobody invited them, they don’t know what they’re talking about (man card is not a valid qualification on STEM topics) and sperging out

in a woman it’s called being a gossip, being a bitch, whining, being nosy or nagging
they try to pass all those off as proof of masculinity and veracity (fooling no one, causing temper tantrum)

it’s entirely fully 100% bitchy men pretending to be smart

starting on the idiots they perceive as slightly lower in the chain

throwing a tantrum when you point it out

very delta/gamma

not men, but boys, too easily triggered to be masculine

when arrogant men and women bump noggins, but project their faults as an innately sexual thing

buy hey, I just believe in Burden of Proof

Most things are not obvious. Otherwise, a debate would be redundant.

eyeroll marilyn monroe rlly really uhuh hmmm oh

My personal favourites are;

you’re too dumb to explain it to (or, Occam’s razor, you can’t do it cos you’re poorly informed and therefore wrong) but also I don’t even understand you and that’s your fault (incredulity)

If I repeat myself maybe it’ll make it sound like I have a valid point.

If you call me out on any of my bullshit, somehow ad hominem.

Autistic shrieking as they gesture at both wikipedia and the common dictionary of non-technical terms.

If you make my beliefs look stupid, I will get so defensive I can only call it a strawman but cannot explain why.

Abuse, rage and SJWs

Minor points. I saw a woman having a particular problem and this is an expanded version of what I told her.
Rage is a choice to hurt others because one’s feelings are hurt in a perceived slight. There is no such thing as ‘out of control’, you are not possessed. We may feel an urge to jump off a cliff, but it’s just an urge.

SJWs are not offended, they are outraged. Narcissistic rage, to be precise. If Trigglypuff were a 300-pound MMA fighter, would her tantrums be harmless? Funny? This is not funny, whoever exhibits this behaviour. It is very serious. Even children are capable of crime up to murder. This should be mocked but not tolerated and never considered harmless. It’s antisocial behaviour. It’s verbal abuse and all sorts of other related things, including intimidation, an attempt to control by threats (in this case, to lose their rag).

It is entirely conscious, and in fact, planned.
They plan to do these things, and hence, when thwarted, seek revenge.
Common sense: You don’t seek revenge for accidents.

First stop: gaslighting the victim into thinking they’re abusive for reacting with boundaries. Called playing victim. It’s a version of playing dumb. It’s a bluff in poker terms. Turns into a game of Who Started It, as if that justifies any form of abusive behaviour (no, never). They are children emotionally. Do not pity them, do not help them. In fact, it’s healthier to punish them but by omission, cutting them out. Get the police involved, narcissists despise authority. Cut off supply, get justice the honest way afterward. Stop them victimizing others but do not gossip. Best done by law enforcement. This isn’t school, you need to snitch.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/traversing-the-inner-terrain/201205/is-rage-choice

The violent toward those they claim to love cannot express love. They may not even feel it (psychopaths). They can feel relief from control over something external to compensate for their weakness, the power dynamic they ‘confuse’ for love, and also call their inner issues a matter of external cause (e.g. you made me hit you for misbehaving, as if they’re your parent instead of an equal). Rage is a red flag to do something. Before civilization, this meant killing the threat. We are not like other animals. We all have control, this cannot be denied. If you are an adult and have the privileges, like driving and voting, you have duties too. There is no excuse for abuse.

If they deny their agency with excuses, they belong in an asylum because obviously, they cannot take care of themselves and present a danger to themselves and others. 

Repeated provocations are common so they have a legal defense. Report these people for provocation and watch them run for the hills. I’ll bet there’s a long list of people with similar complaints, seek them out and file together.

Don’t play parent, you are not responsible for such people. They are adults. They need to stop leaning on other people and check themselves into some therapy. If they refuse therapy, it’s just another ploy to keep control.

There is no such thing as Magically Disappearing Agency. It doesn’t fluctuate, it’s there or not. Either you are responsible for ALL of what you do, or you should be in State Custody, in therapy or prison.

I thought I’d post this quick one before I go.

Link: Bring back dueling, quit whining

http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/19/bring-back-dueling/

Words are only as meaningful as the actions to back them up.

If you compare someone to Hitler on Twitter, and you say you’d go back in time to kill Hitler (presumably before he did the job himself), how are you going to act on that?

This would silence the SJWs over night.

This would silence all the cowards who social signal (including some supposed redpills) in lieu of doing something. Who finger point and blame game. “It’s your fault my life sucks, I’m a victim, but you can’t hit me because… I’m a victim!” If they want to be a victim, I am happy to provide that service. They forget the true meaning of the word.

If you had to defend and guard honour like that, imagine how quickly the r-types would skedaddle.

After all, isn’t the very concept of being ‘offended’ and indeed, ‘offensive‘, directly tied to honour culture? If you choose to be offensive, you choose to defend that speech offensively.

How would your reputation look, based on your lexicon of actions?

It would be nice to see social signalling return to positive values, as was the case for the majority of history. Etiquette is a series of everyday social signals, after all. I think we all miss those small signs of regard.

Video: Most offensive video ever by Nicole Arbour

This lady got a new viewer.

Repzion is turning SJW White Knight and bitching about her, so you know she must be onto something.
h/t BassFZz for introducing me to her.

SJWs cannot stand two things: beautiful women and intelligence.
This woman appears to have both, and a sense of humour.
I hope she keeps it up.

toasting raising glass cheers leonardo da vinci congrats well done demons

Video: Anti-SJW sentiment rising, college censorship backlash

Yeah, they are.
They are laughing at that.

Excellent, outgroup the extreme r-types.

If you’re not on Twitter, or Tumblr, or the very liberal Universities, EVERYONE is laughing. Because everyone is tired of this shit.

Among probable (real) liberals even.
We need to redpill them hard on what their ‘fellows’ are actually doing.

It’s not that it’s annoying or funny, although it is funny because this shit is …just insane.
It’s DANGEROUS.

He unknowingly references the anti-logic Standpoint Theory at the end of the clip.