“Is game or Pick-Up a con?”

I hope you came here from a web search.

http://simpleguyskills.com/sham-known-game/

Some men did not get off so easy in regards to “game”. If you fell prey to the false promises of “game”, please do yourself a favor and cut your losses now. If you bought a book full of fancy lines/routines to “attract women”, throw in the garbage, or better yet, use it to keep the fire blazing a little longer next time you go camping. Also, unsubscribe from any PUA newsletter IMMEDIATELY! And finally, if you fell victim to a PUA bootcamp, you were conned. I sincerely feel bad for you. I almost took one myself at one point and would have taken it on the chin as well. DO NOT use any of the dorky/cocky funny lines you were taught at your bootcamp EVER again! No need to be “Bozo the cocky clown” around women.

TLDR: Yes.

Short reason.

They don’t have results, they aren’t married so they don’t have advice on getting a wife/LTRs and they want you to pay them for what’s apparently easy and obvious.

They’re implicitly mocking your intellect with that alone.

Its about having a positive view of women which enables a person to establish a healthy relationships and not holding any misogynistic views towards women (don’t get me wrong, there are some women out there that are bitches etc). What a lot of guys don’t understand is that women are not the enemy, but rather the beliefs they hold about women, its doubt that is the enemy in their minds.

Women aren’t stupid animals where you recite a magic spell of magic words and their legs open.

It’s NLP for pussy. Vagina isn’t an Aladdin’s cave. You’re embarrassing yourselves.

She isn’t flaking, she was never interested in the first place.
You aren’t ‘banging’ out of your league, or it wouldn’t be your league.

Victims of fraud have legal recourse.

Sue them. Just get together with all the other marks and file a collective lawsuit. Go public in the papers with it. You can be individually anonymous and get your bootcamp money back.

In other witty critique.

https://youmightbethatguy.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/you-are-the-creepy-old-guy-at-the-club/

Roosh V fraud? and OT: Game footage illegality

h/t Bob: http://uncabob.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/i-called-it-years-ago.html

https://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/2015/08/30/roosh-never-got-laid-in-ukraine/

I’m not saying it’s true, I’m saying it would make logical sense. He hated London, remember?

Includes this video;

Misconception: You don’t have to explicitly say you’ve had any form of romantic relationship up to sex with a woman for it to be within illegal territory. With all the EU law on top of national law, which Americans don’t understand at all, the mere inference e.g. picture use, mention by name, would be enough in the context of such websites. American “jokes” only fly in America, about Americans. In Europe, they might get you arrested.

I do find it slightly disturbing that he is obsessed with women of my race and totally ignores non-white women (pedestal anyone?).
From a woman’s perspective, women of that level never fall for a pick-up unless they want to aka whores. I can tell they are not whores (women can tell). This top-tier band of women are so used to being hit on, it bounces off. I’ve seen this in person and asked about it, they find the whole concept tiresome and slightly sickening to the stomach. Not to mention dehumanizing. However, lying about a woman’s reputation like this is in fact slander and libel, so I wonder why he would be so stupid as to try that on. Is he one of the people who naively believe the internet doesn’t count? How long before women like this band together with SJW money to sue him? A matter of time if the allegations are in any way true. Reputation is dead serious legal business, a woman’s sexual history is no joking matter and no one could say he didn’t deserve it.
I have encountered many Arab men who’ve done this, the classic trick being photoshop girlfriends. I just wish he’d stick to lying about his own race, since he is a realist. The demographics of the PUA skew heavily toward Arabic men. However, they seem to have an almost predatory focus on European, white women. This is the secret reason SJWs are bothered by them so much, cultures value white women and feminism especially.

Slightly OT.

I have seen Game recordings filmed in London and been horrified. That is illegal and could be used in court as evidence of harassment, so they shouldn’t be doing it in self-interest either. Either they don’t know it’s illegal, or they don’t care and I don’t know which is worse.
https://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/2015/07/21/pua-talks-to-women-and-gets-into-trouble-with-police-proving-game-does-not-exist/

http://filmlondon.org.uk/get-permission-film

Section 137 of the Highways Act 1980 restricts these rights where the use of the highway causes an “obstruction” to other users rights of free passage. If you are considered to be causing an obstruction then there is a risk that you will be stopped from filming.

Literally stopping women (something even the police don’t do) would count.

http://www.jisclegal.ac.uk/ManageContent/ViewDetail/ID/3217/Is-it-okay-to-film-people-in-public-places-21-August-2013.aspx

In accordance with Data Protection legislation (Data Protection Act 1998) consent should be obtained from any individual who is the focus of a video recording in order to process his/her personal data fairly.  Where a recording involves individuals other than the main players, then, in some circumstances, the images of other individuals may constitute personal data and the data protection regime may come into play

http://filmlondon.org.uk/legal

Where consent has not been obtained, the filmmakers must decide if they can still include the image or whether they will need to take steps to obscure the individual’s face…

…Filmmakers should carefully consider whether there are any defamatory meanings implicit in their footage. If there are then identifiable personal images should not be used without consent….

Filming women for what would legally be considered sexist purposes or to imply she is easy (as the focus of a Game attempt) would be included in this.

Where possible, obtain written consent from anyone shown on camera. If an individual is the focus of a particular shot or video then consent is essential. If you have captured an individual in the background of a shot and they are clearly identifiable, you will also need their consent. Remember that even if someone’s face is obscured, they could still be identifiable in other ways (i.e. through their car number plate).

Voice.

You should not use images of an individual in a manner that could be defamatory and lower their reputation. Avoid all manipulation of an image that suggests a context or meaning that was not part of the original image and do not associate an individual with a negative or damaging story unless such association is accurate and truthful. Remember that what you might think of as harmless could be very damaging to a different person’s reputation (i.e. the head of a bank wrongly associated with a story about credit card companies charging excessive fees).

…Laws in Europe prohibiting the photography of citizens for public display have delayed the release of Google Street View in some countries.[9]

Literally, Game videos (filmed in the UK at least) shouldn’t exist. Even private use (fap videos) would be dodgy, let alone the retarded quality to “Let’s publish this on Youtube because that must be fine”! The very reasons for filming are the ones the laws expressly forbid (i.e. seeing the woman, hearing the woman).

Persistent or aggressive photography of a single individual may come under the legal definition of harassment.[4]

There are also copyright issues, especially if the person you film is much higher in status (which you may be unaware of), because they are contributing to the value of the copyright which you distribute and without a model release or some such, it’s also grounds for a civil suit.

Extreme example;

A right to privacy exists in the UK law, as a consequence of the incorporation of the European Convention on Human Rights into domestic law through the Human Rights Act 1998. This can result in restrictions on the publication of photography.[28][29][30][31][32]

Then there’s the idea of a private conversation in public (including content i.e. one’s personal life). Essentially, these “players” are being total fucking idiots. The burden of proof is civil, 51%.

There are also use of likeness laws and tying them to a product (a man’s Game or Game website/books count) as commercial purposes behind the video, which also go ahead without consent. Even researchers fall afoul of this law but the Universities somewhat protect them. Somewhat.

Personally, I would sue. And I’m generally tolerant of men making fools of themselves in public.