worlds away from considerations of beauty, which, for women, involve a narrower than group average face – NOT broader, which is high T aka libido
Can we call this r-face?
R-types would logically have the sluttier face.
Past research has consistently found that men with shorter and wider faces are more aggressive, more prejudiced, more likely to deceive others, more dominant, and more driven to succeed compared to men with longer and narrower faces.
Low trust, sluttier, violent, compulsive lying – r-types in a nutshell.
This is even true for non-human primates, and among women this link is found for dominance, but not aggression. Furthermore, other people pick up on these facial cues, perceiving wide-faced men and women as more masculine, dominant and threatening.
R-selected women, more aggressive as sole protectors of their spawn.
It all FITS.
Why would all these personality traits be related to this seemingly random facial feature, also known as facial width-to-height ratio (FWHR)? Because they are all thought to be influenced, at least partly, by exposure to the masculinizing effects of testosterone. Although data are mixed as to the exact timing of this exposure (in utero, at puberty or in adulthood), more testosterone generally means higher behavioral masculinity, dominance, aggression and also a higher facial width-to-height ratio.
Examples of measurement of the FWHR in faces with relatively low and high FWHRs.
FROM GENIOLE ET AL., 2015, PLOS ONE
Find the more attractive woman, I fucking dare you.
Also applies to retro women:
A long face is more attractive in women (read: feminine).
As history shows, feminine women like Vivien Leigh can have low testosterone but a fiiiiine sex life.
[despite gaslighting from a gay bitch of a husband]
Feminine face = better WHR measures, so best of both worlds, actually!
Wide hips – higher sex drive, partnered or not.
Long face in women is not horse face.
Except SJP but she isn’t white so… who cares?
Now, a set of two new Canadian studies find that FHWR is also linked to several aspects of people’s sexual psychology (sex drive, casual sex and infidelity), also known to be influenced by testosterone.
Water is wet, go on.
In the first study, 145 heterosexual Canadian students (52% female, 82% White, mean age = 22) currently in romantic relationships answered questions regarding their sex drive (like how often they experience sexual desire or how often they masturbate). They then had their face photos taken by the researchers (under identical distance, lighting, and backdrop conditions for all participants), and those photos were later carefully measured by two raters for width, height and some other facial features like cheekbone prominence.
Note: libido doesn’t equal promiscuity in women, which warrants separate study so hot does not equal slut. Discernment among the most attractive women in studies prove this (the sluttiest women are average or slightly above to hook more attractive mates). Yet it does explain partially why men would find certain women better options sexually if not marriage material (sexy over beauty). There’s a mutual exclusive at play here between availability (broad, manjaw) and beauty (dimorphic female, narrow face and soft jaw).
Because their average genes want to survive with anyone v no one.
And naturally propaganda and rhetoric factor below awareness.
This must change based on r/K cycling, what percentage of men find mannish women ‘hot’ rather than meh or repulsive (probably charts onto the man’s wing leaning too).
Could she be a porn star and how good (you imagine) at it? That’s sexy in our gross pornified culture and a 10 for Hotness.
Could she be portrayed as an ancient goddess in a sculpture? That’s beauty and a 10.
Beautiful, but by modern standards (which are dumb and/or anti-white, generally) – not hot.
sorry about the meme but you get the point
There’s a distinct look, defined or softer.
Like popular celebrities
Beautiful face + voluptuous body = Ideal.
By comparison, note how the limbs look thin? Odd side effect.
Shows natural fat % (so limbs must be less to be within range) but not obesity (female fat deposition, see WHR posts).
Rarely…. a woman is both.
Fuck you, Monica. Fuck you and your flawlessness.
The analyses confirmed the researchers’ hypothesis: Wider-faced men and women reported higher sex drive than their counterparts with narrower faces. This link remained even when other facial features were statistically controlled for.
A second sample of 314 students (57% female, 91% White, 93% heterosexual, mean age = 20) from a different Canadian university confirmed these findings regarding sex drive. This second study also asked participants about their desire for, attitudes towards and experiences with casual hookups and their expectations of future infidelity to a partner. The men with higher facial width-to-height ratios reported greater openness to hookups and a higher likelihood they’d be unfaithful to a partner compared to their narrow-faced peers. A link between FWHR and propensity for casual sex or infidelity was not found for the women in this sample.
but libido finding is solid
Together with prior research on this facial feature, this study suggests that the facial width-to-height ratio, and our ability to perceive and interpret it, may be part of an evolved system that emerged long ago in our evolutionary past in order to help us figure out who may be dangerous vs. safe, trustworthy and faithful vs. likely to deceive or cheat on us, or more likely to stick around and raise babies vs. “hit it and quit it.”
Maybe r-oriented men don’t care if the woman is available to other men because, in times of r, any port in a storm, right?
R-selected men = low investment, might as well be low EFFORT.
Sorry but…. true, right?
Whites on average have the narrowest faces plus highest trust societies.
Japs are the closest non-whites. Says it all.
This is the first study to ever link FWHR to an aspect of human sexual psychology, so the findings need to be replicated in other samples and more diverse samples, including teens and older adults, non-whites, nonheterosexual and trans populations and using additional measures of sexual psychology before we can accept them.
Those studies can’t be published, you’ll kill them.
They’re in a drawer somewhere. PC people, you play yourself.
We should also remember that even if there is some positive correlation between FWHR and these personality and sexual traits, that this correlation is far from perfect. Not every person with a wide, short face is likely to be violent, cheat, hook up or crave sex several times a day. Being aware of our perceptual biases is an important first step in correcting our automatic tendency to stereotype someone based on the shape of their face.
Why did Marilyn make her face look broader with hair?