r/niceguys, the Male Hysteric

The medical dictionary enlightens us on these broflakes, that weirdly seem addicted to hook-up apps.

https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/histrionic-personality-disorder-dsm–5-301.50-(f60.4)
Disproportionate emotional reactions” walls of text, random opinions based on nothing
“Histrionic personality disorder is thought to be closely related to antisocial personality disorder, with studies showing that individuals meeting the criteria for the former condition also meet similar criteria for the latter. Based on this finding, it could be inferred that the two disorders may stem from the same underlying cause; whether this is biological, environmental or otherwise is yet to be determined.”

“Comorbidity

Histrionic personality disorder may present comorbid with other conditions, including:

Borderline personality disorder
Narcissistic personality disorder
Dependent personality disorder
Major depressive disorder
Somatic symptom disorder
Conversion disorder”

First in list.

They do play victim a lot… while typing rape fantasies in classic sexual intimidation.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/histrionic-personality-disorder
“The self for the histrionic personality is that “I am sensitive and everyone should admire and approve of me.”

Cannot handle rejection.

“Cluster B
Borderline personality disorder is characterised by emotional instability, impulsivity, self-image problems, and unstable and intense interpersonal relationships. These individuals often present to clinical services due to self-harm, mood disturbance or psychotic-like symptoms. Borderline personality disorder often coexists with antisocial, histrionic, narcissistic, dependent and avoidant personality disorders. Differentiating this personality disorder from mood disorders and psychotic disorders can be problematic, and comorbidity with these mental illnesses is not uncommon.”

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/personality-disorders/what-are-personality-disorders
“There are 10 specific types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are long-term patterns of behavior and inner experiences that differs significantly from what is expected. The pattern of experience and behavior begins by late adolescence or early adulthood and causes distress or problems in functioning. Without treatment, personality disorders can be long-lasting. Personality disorders affect at least two of these areas:

  • Way of thinking about oneself and others
  • Way of responding emotionally
  • Way of relating to other people
  • Way of controlling one’s behavior”

“Borderline personality disorder: a pattern of instability in personal relationships, intense emotions, poor self-image and impulsivity. A person with borderline personality disorder may go to great lengths to avoid being abandoned, have repeated suicide attempts, display inappropriate intense anger or have ongoing feelings of emptiness.”

The standard rant about being abandoned by all women, anger toward women (but not men, because histrionics are sexual predators) and emptiness when not validated with attention. If they cannot get positive attention, they seek negative e.g. explicit compliments ‘switch’ to verbal abuse. Stereotypical HPD.

This has gained global internet attention (and derision) but it’s 100% a personality disorder, as quoted.

“Narcissistic personality disorder: a pattern of need for admiration and lack of empathy for others. A person with narcissistic personality disorder may have a grandiose sense of self-importance, a sense of entitlement, take advantage of others or lack empathy.”

“Histrionic personality disorder: a pattern of excessive emotion and attention seeking. People with histrionic personality disorder may be uncomfortable when they are not the center of attention, may use physical appearance to draw attention to themselves or have rapidly shifting or exaggerated emotions.”

“Antisocial personality disorder: a pattern of disregarding or violating the rights of others. A person with antisocial personality disorder may not conform to social norms, may repeatedly lie or deceive others, or may act impulsively.”

Women are such idiots for passing up those men, huh?

https://www.medpagetoday.com/meetingcoverage/apa/14335
“Borderline personality disorder may be underdiagnosed, according to a study of lifetime diagnostic and treatment histories in patients eventually found to have the disorder.”

MAYBE?

“The most common false-positive diagnoses were bipolar disorder (17%) and depression (13%), followed by anxiety disorders (10%) and eating disorders (1%).”

“These criteria include at least five of the following:

  • Efforts to avoid abandonment
  • Unstable, intense interpersonal relationships
  • Identity disturbances
  • Impulsivity
  • Suicidality
  • Mood instability
  • Chronic emptiness
  • Inappropriate, intense anger
  • Paranoid ideation or dissociation”

Sounds like MRA’s paranoia of divorce when they aren’t even married.

That’s like fearing foreclosure when you’ll never buy a house.

Women are supposed to use sexual selection to reduce their batshit contribution to the gene pool. They used to be killed off in wars, good luck flirting with a bayonet.

Feature, not a bug. Men acting like stereo-typically ‘crazy’ people, emoting over nothing, are owed nothing. Broflakes must die. Whether they took Gender Studies or pretend to be right-wing is irrelevant. They shouldn’t breed, like the SJW won’t either. Feature, not bug. Snowflake fertility rate is close to zero.

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/borderline-personality-disorder/index.shtml

“Borderline personality disorder is a mental illness marked by an ongoing pattern of varying moods, self-image, and behavior. These symptoms often result in impulsive actions and problems in relationships. People with borderline personality disorder may experience intense episodes of anger, depression, and anxiety that can last from a few hours to days.”

Sounds about right.

They flick like a light switch.

“People with borderline personality disorder may experience mood swings and display uncertainty about how they see themselves and their role in the world. As a result, their interests and values can change quickly.”

When they complain about ‘men’ needing better treatment, they only mean them.

“People with borderline personality disorder also tend to view things in extremes, such as all good or all bad. Their opinions of other people can also change quickly. An individual who is seen as a friend one day may be considered an enemy or traitor the next. These shifting feelings can lead to intense and unstable relationships.”

Rather important characteristic.

“Intense and highly changeable moods, with each episode lasting from a few hours to a few days
Chronic feelings of emptiness
Inappropriate, intense anger or problems controlling anger
Difficulty trusting, which is sometimes accompanied by irrational fear of other people’s intentions
Feelings of dissociation, such as feeling cut off from oneself, seeing oneself from outside one’s body, or feelings of unreality”

Line up, ladies.

Basically they act like they’re on the period from Hell, except no period.

Women attracted to labile intense emotionality are called lesbians. Suddenly their domestic abuse rates make sense.

No wonder these guys are perma-single. They push people away or are pushed. Why get into dating, then, logically? They need the attention like air.

https://www.apa.org/monitor/mar04/treatment.aspx
“And while individuals with BPD often crave approval, a small provocation can trigger abusive and even violent behavior toward those trying to help them.”

To finish, some interesting but not academic comments.

https://www.psychforums.com/histrionic-personality/topic10988.html
“I believe a male HPD would probably lure their female victims in by acting like a lost little boy in need of a mother.”

A maternal wife, maternal to him, more than his own children. Sick.

“Not very different from how a female HPD searches out older men much of the time and acts like a lost little girl that puts across the illusion that she will reward you with love and sex if only you were to take care of her.”

Logically, aren’t the male HPDs then looking for a mother figure?

If the women resist that creepy dynamic, he can call them shallow and gold diggers, as if he possesses looks, charm or money but chooses to reject them (drama).

“This of course is all an endless search for a father figure since their real fathers tend to be either A. abusive B. abusive narcissists (abusive because they neglect and tend to be emotionally and physically distant or abuse their children sexually mentally or physically) or C. abandoned her when she was young or was never there at all other than to conceive the poor girl so she yearns for a real father figure and keeps seeking them out in the men she gets involved with or befriends to prospectively get involved with them later if they measure up ie have some status so she can leech all the attention off of being the girlfriend of ______ etc.

Anyway other literature I read says male HPD’s also act ridiculously macho…
The HPD’s that are dual diagnosed with NPD or ASPD will do things out of maliciousness because those bad traits go with those other disorders when people with that feel wronged or slighted or are in need of amusement and believe only doing something to hurt someone will end their boredom and provide them with stimulation.”

Private messaging people who aren’t even on dating sites.

This male HPD would seek females who would adore him and shower him with the attention that was lacked while growing up…. correct?? A female that would be his new playmate per say where he would feel needed, wanted and loved?”

When this impossible Saint doesn’t appear (but he’d cheat on her or leave anyway) then he complains how there are no good women.

Saints suffer.

They want a doormat who’ll prop them up, no matter what they do to abuse her… if a doormat could prop anyone up, they’d do it themselves. Such a woman is a contradiction and impossible in reality.

“The key point seems to be social acceptance in this case, but I don’t know if this apply to all the HPD’s.”
Popularity.

“Still about the “easiness”: in my experience, being “reasonably difficult” is maybe the best option, if any. This kind of man discounts quickly something he can obtain too easily”

The guy who went on fifty dates this month but complains women are attention-seeking flakes…

or inferior, because they’re decent to him. And he got bored.

That’s the one.

Addicted to dating, imagine how messed up that is. Addicted to when dating goes wrong.

Without a constant rota of new women, what would he have to talk about?

HPD’s often form parental type relationships with one person but then cheat on that one person with plenty of other partners because they need the extra attention and since they don’t have the little voice in their head like we do that re-assures us of things they need re-assurance from other people of what they’d like to feel about themselves a mirror is made out of the other person you could say so yeah the other function of cheating for them would be to re-assure themselves that they are still attractive and sexy since they cannot feel that way about themselves without a mirror a.k.a you and me.”

Madonna/Whore complex makes the man a literal attention whore.

“I’ve met a histrionic male before. He is a very unpredictable person. Usually, a male histrionic sounds like he is in need of a lot of love and care. Also, at many times, he might be an adult already but act like a 4 year old. The male histrionic I liked called me his granny. It was odd at first but I suspected he was a bit too attached. Also, male histrionics are extremely flirtatious. I agree with you, they can also be classifed as players. Making girls fall in love with them for the attention in the end to forget all about you if he’s gets tired and bored with you! Also, male histrionics are seductive and give out little hints about their sexual desires. It’s actually not easy to catch. Just think of M.H. as in between the border of sweet & innocent, yet perverted and sexual. If you get the sense from these two sides, he might have a histrionic personality disorder.”

Boyish and tyrannical, emotional and demanding.

Incapable of commitment, in spite of his supposed ‘fear’ of abandonment.

He hates the idea, but is happy, nay, gleeful, to abandon or betray others.

That’s the male hysteric. Because he can leave you and you should just get over it, but you can’t leave, because if he can’t have you, no one else can. If you want to freak a HPD out, give them lots of attention in person for five minutes then abruptly stop. A normal person won’t feel entitled. In HPD, it triggers rage. It’s similar to narcissistic supply.

Every good thing burns in the dumpster fire of their life, esp. ‘love’ life.

To them it’s literally a game, of attention.

They call women wise to their game ‘teases’ because projection. Being nice is just normal, it isn’t special. A woman being nice is just feminine, she doesn’t want to fuck you.

When these guys use a noun of something they want, replace it with attention. It suddenly makes complete sense.

Women don’t like female attention-seekers, why would they like /niceguys? The nice act is a routine that seeks praise.

Pathogens causing psychology issues again: rage

Intermittent Explosive Disorder, this time. Explains those dumb enough to protest Trump rallies.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rage-disorder-linked-with-parasite-found-in-cat-feces/

Have you ever seen an angry rat? It chews through things and makes a lot of noise. Attracts predators. It’s like a temper tantrum or narcissistic rage.

In the study of more than 350 adults, those with a psychiatric disorder called Intermittent Explosive Disorder, or IED, were twice as likely to have been infected by the toxoplasmosis parasite compared with healthy individuals with no psychiatric diagnosis.

The study adds to a growing body of evidence suggesting that toxoplasmosis — usually a mild or nonsymptomatic infection from a protozoan parasite called Toxoplasma gondii — may somehow alter people’s brain chemistry to cause long-term behavior problems. Previous studies have linked toxoplasmosis to schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, impulsivity and suicidal behavior.

And there are more chronic issues coming out as affected. I wonder if those people had a tendency toward self-delusion prior to infection…

http://neurosciencenews.com/microbes-alzheimers-neurology-3826/

It’s almost like the brain is bathed in a chemical vat for subsistence…

facepalm leslie howard

Video: Hidden Psychopathy + Sherlock/Moriarty

I’m going to do something here I’ve never done online before. This is how I pick up on stuff.
A casual linguistic analysis, an excerpt from this video, transcribed by me. And pop culture comparison for fun.
Key: Bold and italic, by me too, note for tone. (round bracket) implied, covert or omitted. [sq., clinical note, overt presentation]

Of note, ~9:00 in:-

(serotonin amelioration explanation)
…so Psychopaths will get very angry but they’ll stay angry. …I said when I get mad, I don’t show it to anybody. I said I could be furious at you and you’d never know. I show no anger whatsoever. I don’t show anxiety. I said first of all, you’ll never know. I can sit on it for a year or two or three or five. But I’ll get you. And I always do. And they don’t know where it’s coming from. They can’t tie it to the event and it (seemingly) comes out of nowhere. And something dramatic happens in their life but I’m very careful, almost pristine about it, that’s a fair response. So if somebody does something [DS: note linguistic distancing] you can do a lot, you know. [DS: linguistic hedge, appeal to popularity/commonality]. You can say anything to me and I won’t get mad, really. [superficial] Those things don’t get me mad. [unique triggers] Somebody’s trying to get me [challenge, disrespect] , it’s like another psychopath or another (…) you know, someone’s trying to mess with me [perception of threat]. I have uh, I have a high (standard) threshold [pattern-seeking, repetition of slight required], so many things really don’t get me mad. You can just about do anything. I’m pretty cool that way. [rarely emotionally involved personally or socially] But if you really do [personal attack, repeated or major, provocation] then I always get even [balance scales, sense of justice] and I’ll make sure [intellectual control] it’s the same sort of intensity [proportion, category] that their initial damage (caused). …I can stay cool and it’ll happen (inevitable) and they’ll look around –
What happened with their job, what happened with their family, what happened [I happened. Person as event/God.] they won’t know. [stealth] And they both said that’s psychopathic. That’s exactly it. …..
Really when I saw Dexter, I absolutely understood it, because he was being fair, he was being fair to the universe [moral code, higher power appeal] and the world of ethics of the universe he was absolutely fair. Morality wise not so much [minimisation] but I could really understand [empathise] that behaviour. [decision-making process]
……..It was always the most selfish behaviour. ….It gets worse than that. ….It would extend to everything I was doing. [global traits] …Everything I’m doing is maximally selfish. (tries to change) I said you know I don’t really mean it. My wife goes I don’t care. ….I couldn’t believe it. I thought, you see, I had taken the whole thing of empathy and meaning beyond what people behaviourally are asking for [deep, higher processing, sincerity in social observance of norms] … people said you’re trying and that’s all that matters. This really blew me away and I really still don’t understand it [DS: it’s interpersonal respect, respect for observance of norms]….

This is the living example of a successful sociopath (non-criminal, prosocial psychopath).
BBC’s Sherlock, continually selfish, would also meet this (before they made him mushy and weak for the fangirls in Series 3).

a-friend-an-enemy-oh-which-one bbc sherlockMan, how many people do you piss off???

Despite the writer’s insistence they haven’t written one, he is. He totally is. They’re just reading sociopath as a criminal. No no, ‘successful sociopath’. Successful. High-functioning, almost. If you were to apply functioning criteria to this condition, yes.

And this bundle of characteristics, as it were, makes them so dangerous. Calculating, ruthless, precise. Think Moriarty. No doubts over that one, but aren’t they similar?

I listen in for linguistic cues and quirks like this at cocktail parties, with surprising results.
This is why successful sociopaths are best in business. It’s the ideal set of traits. Look out for these clinical markers I pointed out in conversations with high-flyer types. Sometimes I announce to them on the quiet that I know what they are. Good times, good times.

no one ever gets me bbc moriarty sherlockCome on, it’s transparent as a pane of glass.