Stop the fake debates please

I can already feel the heat of hate I’m going to get for this.

There’s a broken record.

You’re being played.

What strawman?

Not all (crime) are (demographic) is an excuse to dismiss data.
Probability data. It happens to the HBD crowd all the time.
A derailing tactic intended to keep you ignorant and fixated on casting aspersions (ad hom). Bullshit rhetoric. There’s no debate. It’s the statistical equivalent of anecdote and rejects the heinousness of the crime in question. In a civilized, First World society, the acceptable number is zero.

They want you to forget this.

(I also think that traumatizing a person with crime should be an aggravating offence, we already implicitly have this but it’s been forgotten in sentencing for political expedience e.g. aggravating factor for taking a child’s innocence away or raping a celibate/faithful Christian or a virgin, same principle. It could even apply to male rape of a straight man, since there is another layer to the trauma based on the individual’s beliefs and identity. “Hate” crime should be put toward those ends if anything, protecting the in-group against the out-group of the really spiteful (anti-Western) predatory targeting and life ruining. The system we have is broken because it defends the out-group like infantile damsels when they are literally criminals explicitly targeting the in-group of the society they chose to live in. That is “sexual terrorism”.)

I’ll take the one with more data as example.

Muh “not all men are rapists”

– but most rapists are male, it’s just un-PC to collect demographic data (including race) and publish it.

Seriously, try to find rape data by sex and/or sexuality, I did. Couldn’t find anything reliable. Isn’t this suspicious?

We need a data collection charter where such information in the public interest must be collected and published freely, with no distortions. Including the rate of demonstrably false accusations. It viscerally sickens me that a raped man by another man must expressly state he isn’t homosexual to be taken more seriously. Where are the libertarians on that privacy? Consent is never an assumption, property rights begin with the body.

You’re being hoodwinked. So I looked up American data since a lot of you are filthy Americans.

You won’t pay attention unless I’m talking about you.

Best I could find in a moderately long search attempt.

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=317

OT but “Attempted rape includes verbal threats of rape.”
How many men plead ignorance on that one?

All this insufficient data (even at collection stage) is intended to keep men and women at one another’s throats. To lower the fertility rate. It is dyscivic.

Sex-based triangulation. You cannot fight the system that oppresses you if you’re busy engaging in an impossible game of one-upmanship.

They also want to deny unPC but true stereotypes by hoping you won’t ask for full datasets.

Your taxes are paying for them already, you should get all the information.

They also are intellectually dishonest to report victim but not criminal.
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6427
Revised Oct 2018 data from 2016 (latest).
e.g.
“The rate of violent victimization against males increased from 2015 to 2016, rising from 15.9 to 19.6 per 1,000 males age 12 or older.
From 2015 to 2016, the rate of aggravated assault against males age 12 or older rose from 2.7 to 4.2 per 1,000.
The rate of violent victimization against persons ages 25 to 34 rose from 21.8 per 1,000 persons to 28.4 per 1,000 from 2015 to 2016, and the rate for females in this age group rose from 24.6 to 33.4 per 1,000.”

>implies women are not persons but O.K.

Who attacked them? A ghost? It is a common incomplete sentence and poor grammar. It’s also scientism.

You need a Punnett square and I see none.

Male, female and male, female. Basic stats again? Otherwise an individual reading cannot know their risk.

“Not all men” really is the fake right equivalent of the fake left’s “not all immigrants”.

-but most terrorists are foreign, culturally and racially, it’s just un-PC to collect demographic data….. again.

See the pattern?

You’re chasing your tails.

Red-pill statistics can make men look really, really bad. Men have a right to know the likes of rape data, in particular, because they need to know they’re at great risk from other men as well.

Naturally it doesn’t list the latter but they take one step forward in two steps back by collecting male victim data…. only to neglect entirely listing the female. Mathematics in need of context. Society is not just one group, you collect all the data or it’s close to useless. They know this, it’s deliberate. This is intended to bait silly MRAs who won’t even notice it doesn’t mention perp details.

They do make another error in saying Male for Male Victim rape and subsuming the female in an age range.
Piss-poor data entry. I notice everything.

Collect ALL the data or no, we cannot debate it. 

It would entirely become a futile argument of ignorance. 

They know this. Mathematically, you have no data.

Conveniently, they don’t have to change and lower the crime rate (toward zero) if you don’t know how badly they’re doing their job.


5% of the latest reported US crime was rape.
That’s absurdly high for such a specific and brutal crime.
(This is what happens when you don’t keep serial offenders off the streets).
1 in 20 criminal acts was rape. You need all the data, America.

If I hadn’t screencapped this, you probably wouldn’t have believed me.

Irony! The dramatic irony!

Statistically you’re more likely to suffer domestic violence than stranger violence. That is horrifying. You were over twice as likely to get raped as burgled (1.99% in 2016). Do the libertarians care about bodily rights? Statistically they should care twice as much as about burglaries. The average citizen is twice as likely to be raped as generally assaulted, do you consider non-sexual assault a real problem?

You call yourself the First World? Greatest nation on Earth? Please, lead by example.

We’re right there with you. Bring back the standards of civil behavior, the etiquette. Update it, sure, but you do need it back again, what little data you have is starkly apparent in this. Perhaps enshrined in law, to make sure everyone is clear.

Not all- is NOT how statistics work.
Using big words doesn’t make it a debate.
You are not sounding intelligent to anyone who uses their brain.

Demand more data and think for yourselves.

Fellow Westerners are not the enemy. It is those who keep you shrouded in ignorance and wasting your time attending a digital circus of vicious fallacies. Oh but the delivery of their lies is so sweet, right?

Not all (blank) – they cant.

They don’t have to be.

It’s a false equivalence.

Rape doesn’t belong in the First World and neither do hostile foreigners.

Hopefully you can see why they won’t let me near a television camera.

You’re only watching the puppets who never raise real points. You can’t settle real issues in a soundbite or cheeky Youtube clip.

“Boys will be boys” is pathological altruism enabling the psychopathic of the male population against everyone else and sexist infantilisation.

Science discovers freeze response in rape

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sexual-assault-may-trigger-involuntary-paralysis

Tonic immobility occurs in other animals, there’s plenty of biological evidence.
It’s taking years to sort out the newfangled ‘rape gang’ problem with the cheapest solution, a rope, because society (politicians) continue to labour under the delusion that the likes of Ted Bundy was just a serial killer and completely skirt that ‘serial rapist’ is a thing. Most rape is conducted by serial rapists. SJWs don’t mention this for political reasons and something something “stigma”. Like pathology can’t be a ‘bad’ thing.
Because why would predators be sexual predators, and derive pleasure from more than one form of domination and suffering?
That’s just crazy-talk.
Next you’ll say there’s some type of amygdala causing the shutdown!

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0361923006000517

Don’t look in that door!
Definitely don’t go looking for forensic evidence when it comes to rapists and rape gangs, that’s for sure!

They don’t continue to offend with full malice and moreover, escalate – like a serial killer.

This doesn’t constitute reckless public endangerment for political correctness!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/f78ad097-77d7-4ec0-8014-54ace0fc4b11
“I’m a man and I was raped.”
He froze and it wasn’t his fault, it isn’t a choice.

Die Hard lied to you.

Around predators (including the “human” variety) your brain does strange things.
It evolved because surviving with trauma is still surviving, biologically. Evolution is cruel.
In light of all this, consent laws definitely need amendment.
France needs an age of consent, for one.

Horniness =/= consent, this isn’t Brave New World.
Yet children are taught this. By the state. So they can blame the victim for, say, walking with a man or socializing. Summon the church elders, the slattern deserved it for feeling LUST! According to him. Don’t ask the adult man to control himself, perish the thought!

Imagine trying to argue that the other way, like if a man gets a random erection, that’s consent? Nope, the body is weird. Being “turned on” only equals knocking boots in porn. IRL it’s a non sequitur.

Court rules he cannot be prosecuted for rape as she did not protest

The girl’s family says she was silent as she was ‘paralysed by fear’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4925422/French-court-rules-girl-11-consented-sex-man-28.html

Coming to a bar near you

or a public street….

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-gang-raped-three-men-13525513

Why are women so paranoid?

You should be too. I find it deeply ironic the guys complaining women should feel safe with strangers (no?) often want to open-carry a gun just in case despite being better equipped physically to defend themselves without one.

Riddle me that bullshit.

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This assumes they aren’t choked, as sober (no alcohol or other drugs) people often are prior to any other assault, sexual or otherwise.

However, if they’re held down by others in a gang, usually choking is dispensed with (as forensic evidence).

Why do serial predators do this?
It can knock you out, women can be lead to a rape or kill zone elsewhere or thrown in a car for slavery, looking drunk and at best from their end, it’ll weaken your body and decision-making from oxygen deprivation.
That’s how practiced they are.

The term predator is literal, they base their lives around these machinations specifically calculated to exploit your human weaknesses including politeness, conformity and friendliness. How many discussions of rape mention this fact?

If only that drunk man knew this, he might’ve been spared. We distrust nice people for this reason.

“We must learn and then teach our children that niceness does not equal goodness. Niceness is a decision, a strategy of social interaction; it is not a character trait. People seeking to control others almost always present the image of a nice person in the beginning.” – Gavin De Becker

The guys online who don’t get this don’t want laws that protect them, too. Because plenty of serial rapists (unPC spoiler alert) are men – and gay. Deep down, a lot of men already know this and it’s a big factor in homoaversion. Avoiding rape, they have every right to.

Personally I don’t believe it’s fair on other prisoners to put rapists with the rest of the population.

UN employs thousands of child rapists

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/report-finds-un-employs-3300-pedophiles-responsible-60000-rapes-worldwide/

I thought that was part of the interview?
The real interview where they take them to a distant place and “test” their resolve confronted with a helpless child.

https://www.rt.com/uk/318844-sex-abuse-testimonies-deleted/

Since they don’t believe in Hell, can we believe in a special place in a high-security prison in the frigid Atlantic ocean?

https://gellerreport.com/2018/10/imam-child-rape.html/

Video: Historical perspective

When you think about it we live in the most unfree, tyrannical society ever.

Holding a public opinion gets you arrested and thrown into a dangerous, deprived place full of armed disease-ridden savages who want to psychologically torture and kill you for breathing because something something Crusades.

Show me any time period in history that tops that for the average citizen.

Only the genocidal witch trials maybe. MAYBE.

We will be the future’s dystopian historical setting.

Correction:

If the State enforcers don’t like the parents, they can steal (and sell) children.

That is slavery, literally. Thanks, Blair! (not accidental)

The Lefty McCann parents still have their kids. So who’s getting robbed in the most evil (genocidal) way and their children literally abused in a system that doesn’t care, they have worse life outcomes across the board (there are many many cases if you look)?

http://www.parliament.scot/General%20Documents/CEYP_outcomes_06.16.pdf

Above: we make it worse in every way, let us magically make it better with even more money.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2890536/
The “care system” is systemic child abuse. I’m not being dramatic, I’m being scientific. It is a lifelong punishment without crime. Libertarians say nothing, for shame!

Abuse cases involve physical, sexual and psychological abuse, plus the fundamental isolation (human right to family life) of being kidnapped on top of prison structures (Orwellian “care homes”) inflicted on innocent people (the places have guards, it’s a prison) – so taking them out of those alleged* situations isn’t the real motive, is it? There are druggings (poisonings) and tasers involved if the child resists their effective imprisonment.

But making “bad people” aka bad parents not have kids in the first place is “evil”?

No, only if you wanted to sell them. 

Sorry, “financial incentives”.

We live in a world of fat teachers reporting children for obesity. I didn’t realise they were doctors.

Why not arrest the teachers? If the children weigh in (humiliation is illegal but they do) then why not the teachers in front of the kids?

*Implying public servants never lie to justify their job, you kidding? Why are family courts not public as common law dictates yet socially valid? That makes them technically illegal and they will be outed eventually.

Why doesn’t a child have a say in who they’re sold to? (Forced adoption is the PC term for legal human chattel, fridge horror is knowing taxpayers fund their own children being sold from them).

Why conduct social engineering experiments on helpless children they know to cause bad outcomes e.g. two “dads”, single foster parent, mixed religions that mutilate the genitals of children?

Adoption studies show it doesn’t work, they still end up like their birth parents, so “improvement” isn’t a valid excuse anymore (Jayman covered parenthood and adoption facts that go against “common sense”).

Care homes are just children’s prisons worse than 99% of the situations (they appeal to exception) they seek to “rescue” the child from and get this, many are actually privately owned. What’s the first thing a pedophile would buy into?

Their testimony, btw, is not believed, especially if they put drugs in the kid’s food.

A prisoner in for child rape has more rights and public respect for their feelings than a child in a “care home”.

So they’re taken out of a home that’s probably fine but poor (money into the home would help instead of giving it to busybodies who want to control freak a child’s life because they’re childless**) and instead abused in a system of all types then cycle of abuse means they’re likelier to “need” that system in future like a hole in the head.

Where is the logic here?

Dependence, never trust a socialist. You’re better to them weak or dead.

The state grows as the people wither.

** Measure a social worker’s saliva serotonin when they get their (sexual) high off being a control freak and order the kidnapping of children. It would be comparable to SS camp guards in Nazi Poland. Do that study, Peterson, become a legend in psychiatry. I won’t take credit, I swear. It would come under pathological altruism despite being sadistic, deliberately abusive but masquerading as altruistic for a dual boost (covert narcissism).

The McCanns neglected their children obviously, but who’s to say what is neglect and abuse? The SS as they’re aptly known tried to take children off people for political party membership (never a left wing one, it was libertarian UKIP), for being Christian and for teaching them “bad” habits like making gun noises at school during lunch or being unPC, telling the black kid at school they aren’t English and never will be, they’re African (biological fact). That last child was put on a list. Literally.

The SS are the enemy. Any excuse to intrude in your life and threaten to genocide (c, e and usually b) a bloodline they hate, think SJWs with power over innocents. For b, there are plenty of studies that keeping a child from their relatives exerts profound psychological damage, it’s essentially a form of torture.

It’s political war on your very bloodline, that’s worse than murder!

At least the child would survive you! And be raised by family, where the only good scientific outcomes happen!

They called the Rotherham rape victims prostitutes. They still do.

That is not even feminist. That’s gaslighting for terrorists (sexual terrorism), a form of treason.

Abuse of public office? Neglect (irony) of duty of care? Privileging adults over children they are sworn to defend? (They swear oaths in kangaroo court but an oath to do their damn job hasn’t been brought in because….?)

These people brought in Sharia courts in the West. A parallel legal system, also illegal and invalid.

They are the biggest child abusers in the world, by number and horror.

Look up the woman from Italy (white foreigners aren’t safe!) forced to have a C-section (which could’ve killed her!) so they could steal her pre-term (now at-risk) baby before she left the country legally to go home!

This happens every day, ruled in secret courts.

You don’t hear about it because years after the case, the poor parents can’t legally talk about it!

Is that justice? Ah, no reporters that way. Clear motive why it’s “contempt of (illicit) court”.

MRAs need to make family courts public before any other legal changes can happen, idiots.

Oh, and they target poor couples who can’t afford to legally defend themselves from the slander of monstering. Vox Day won’t dare mention this mess. A study of children taken by class membership would definitively prove the social injustice and its precise genocide.

No court should be secret in a free society.

It doesn’t protect the children, it protects the slave owners.

Why can’t the child sue the person who bought them?

Stefan won’t touch this because he’s a coward.

[And America does it too. Land of the free (unless you’re a minor).
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/cb/research-data-technology/statistics-research/cwo
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/archive/cb/resource/report-congress-cw-financial-incentives ]

not just Christians

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11

The same Orthodox Jews who insist they must use their mouth as part of circumcision.

Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a “child-rape assembly line” among sects of fundamentalist Jews…

He didn’t stop. I was so angry, I confronted him… I told this man, ‘It’s a sin before God, a mishkovzucher. What are you doing to this boy’s soul? You’re destroying this boy!’ ….

Demonic possession?

Although not every human has a soul.

In New York, and in the prominent Orthodox communities of Israel and London, allegations of child molestation and rape have been rampant. The alleged abusers are schoolteachers, rabbis, fathers, uncles—figures of male authority. 

The pro-patriarchy guys need a severe character filter.

If you give all men, for being male, too much power, this will happen.

Ben Hirsch, director of Survivors for Justice, a Brooklyn organization that advocates for Orthodox sex abuse victims, thinks the real number is higher. “From anecdotal evidence, we’re looking at over 50 percent. It has almost become a rite of passage.”

They know about the probable cycle of abuse and wish for their abused to become abusers. This is how pedophiles breed.
At least, it harms the chance of a normal life.

I’ve heard there’s a common thread of idea among male-male predators that the intention is to “ruin them for women”, for marriage. Male innocence/virginity, being taken from them, becoming a point of shame too assists the goal. They report trouble connecting emotionally with women. They fear they may even harm their own children, like an infection.

Suddenly the past child abuse connection to “homosexuality” doesn’t seem so random, does it?

Men and boys have just as much of a human right to their innocence and virginity as women and girls. Male purity has a value, especially if they’re religious.

Sexual terrorism or…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocidal_rape

Polluting or ending the bloodline.

a) a person may be raped to death, it happened to a girl in the dome during Katrina.

b) trauma is inevitable. suicide risk from disbelief, STDs, pregnancy complications.

c) genetic domination to a more recessive race, genetic load increased too

d) plenty of women are made infertile or terrified of sex in the future (psychologically sterile)

e) rape babies and no abortion allowed, since rape produces more pregnancy than consenting sex.