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We call that an attention whore.

Studs are just the male forms of coquettes. There’s nothing impressive in it at all – anyone can flirt with a person they don’t care about. The name for a male tease is coquet.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/77958/woman-is-to-coquette-as-man-is-to-what

A man who from vanity or selfish motives aims at making himself generally attractive to the other sex; a male flirt;

From cocky, which clearly applies more to men.

Why rude? A person can be promiscuous emotionally.

A shrink on sexual harassment “can’t you take a compliment?”

It’s odd how men will admit women are sensitive about their appearance then continue to attack us on it.

Yeah, that’s bullying. Even in school, that is not flirting.

A delightful, common sense explanation.

In before autism;

If you DON’T ‘believe’ in sexual harassment – go to a gay bar on a Saturday.

See how long you last.

That is a woman’s life.

Men are lecherous pigs, regardless of sexuality. What does a lecherous woman look like? A man.

Since any reading this and disbelieving are cowards, simply ask every woman you know and care about (assuming any stuck around you) about their experiences. There are always experiences, regardless of ‘age’ and seeming ‘fuckability’. Don’t talk over them excusing it, just ask the question, shut up and listen.

Actually, 9/10 male rudeness is the inability to shut up and listen. There are studies.

OT Rape accusations imply guilt. A totally honest man needn’t fear them.

https://www.jeunesepayne.co.uk/single-post/2016/11/07/Sexual-Harassment-%E2%80%9CCan%E2%80%99t-you-take-a-compliment%E2%80%9D

“When someone shouts across the street at me “show us your cunt”, or even just wolf-whistles, it’s not because they think it’s going to make me feel good.

It’s a reminder that they could overpower and attack you. R-types don’t care for rule of law, Ks are respectful (either ignoring you in public or getting introductions the decent way).
I saw a very right-wing blog post an article about how the author could easily rape any woman he likes.
In quite graphic detail and practically frothing at the prospect. I don’t read that blog anymore.
This was supposed to scare us all straight (and into agreement with him).

Rape isn’t funny to women, it appalls us (ESPECIALLY the conservative ones), it’s worse than murder. Imagine getting castrated, male power stripped and stolen. Rape is worse for women, at the very least for the conception aspect. A man joking about rape is an r-type trying to pass for K (strong). Those are the worst.

When women see a man seriously laugh (not from shock, but enjoyment) at domestic abuse or whatever sexual ‘prank’ is going on, it would be like watching a woman laughing at a man gored on barbed wire in WW1. Our thought is always the same: what if that were me?

This is why women choose compassion in mate selection studies.

Which sex has the blacker humour?

“Can’t you take a joke?”

Is civilization a joke? They make me wonder.

This is why the right wing’s reputation suffers. Manwhores cosplaying Patriarchy. They seem to think it means concubines and slavery, rather than monogamy and industry.

As for the genuine conservatives…

If they can’t fuck it or kill it, they’re probably going to insult it.

It’s not a well-intended or genuine interaction. They’re not even under some misguided impression that such comments will make me want to have sex with them.

Some are truly that stupid.

Thought process as follows:

If I make her hate me, it’ll remind her of my mother/her father.

Presuming all fathers are incompetent (r-selected) as his. Another layer of insult.

Resent women? No! I simply happen to crush and abandon them all by sheer coincidence!
Distrust women? Sure! They made me leave them! Projection’s only real when women do it!

It’s simply an exertion of power. The aim is to get approval or laughter from others, and discomfort or gratitude from me.

That is better known as sadism.

It is caused by degenerate media, especially the supernormal stimuli of HD streaming online porn.
I guarantee you 100% of those males are porn addicts, the female leches too. The testosterone has to go somewhere, they lack the impulse control (hypofrontality) and time preference to do something good with it.

A compliment is something you would feel comfortable giving a man, woman, or child because you believe it would make them feel good. You’re not boosting anyone’s self-esteem by reminding them that, by society’s standards, “you look acceptable enough for me to fuck”.”

There is always the insult that your primary value is whether they’d use you as their whore.

They’re calling you a whore.

That’s what no woman will admit.

You’re soliciting women on the street. As a whore. But at least whores can charge.

They refuse to accept they’re being rude but they wouldn’t say it if children were present. They desperately want attention but project this onto the provocateur (and looking good isn’t an excuse for anything, is it?) although differing tastes apply, so you can’t even hide your attractiveness since they’ll always be someone Into That. [cough pervert cough]
In conclusion, blame porn. Speaking to people like that (a whore) might not even be acceptable in a purely sexual, private interaction. If they’re smart, they’d leave immediately. It’s demeaning, dehumanizing and morally bankrupt, like the source.

Provocateur is a word I use deliberately… it’s never applied to men, is it?
There’s no such thing as Adam Teasing and Taharrush ‘games’ go after… which sex?

Misandrist women avoid men but misogynistic men seek out women.

Hello, the bulk of MGTOW.

They seek women out to punish them [1]  for what is perceived (projection) as the other’s wrongdoing. It’s never them, never examine the self!!!

Sexual predators, sexual sadism.

I guess womb envy comes into it somewhere but mention that after they play the feminist ‘Penis Envy’ record for the millionth time and suddenly the concept might be shaky? [SJWs lie, r-types lie, logic is a lie to them, thinking is K]

1 Who are you? You can’t lose the chub and get a good job, get out of anyone’s face. At least join a church or Greeenpeace or something. A useful Crusade.

I know, I know.

“Yes, but –

What about men?”

…What about the men?

Where are the men when this happens? [2]

Women exist, women are the fair sex. Women will be sexually harassed as long as we live. Men need to police other men, we certainly can’t.

Think too of the racial and class angles.

Is this acceptable as a way to treat people in the first world?

2

Sign of an r-type male: when you defend a woman from attack (and attack it is), you get accused of White Knighting. Yes, but White Knights are a good thing (Ks) and protect other Ks from monsters…

They never speak to men that way, knowing the odds of an altercation. Cowards to boot. Sexual competition makes the rabbit flee. At times, they’ll use the term incorrectly (in defense of another r) as a compliment of her sexual quality (lie) to get her into bed. It uses triangulation, the common manipulation tactic. Are those men crazy? Probably male borderline, it’s under-diagnosed. It would explain their romantic or intimacy issues that can be masked socially to some extent. R-types fear intimacy because it leads to responsibility and commitment, turn-offs. R/K does neatly align with attachment conditions (anxious-avoidant, secure)…. with the Mother (Freud wins).

Another sign “why are women so easily offended?” [3]

Only the ones around you.

Hm.

Yes, it’s definitely us…

all three billion of us, currently. And they say women can’t do maths?

3

Prelude to gaslighting, All women are crazy bullshit. Pathologizing a problem makes it go away!

See also the classic “why won’t women-” do whatever Lord Fauntleroy wants?

Narcissistic entitlement brewing up to rage. Histrionic, effete rage.

“Women used to be ladies”

The latest meme making an irritating entrance into popular thought.

TLDR; read bolded.

It’s intended to insult clubbing culture (fine, ban clubs, otherwise, STFU about them).

Like most memes appealing to history, it’s misled at best, misleading at worst.

Rewind to the earliest times with video.
Ladies have fun too. Anything less is an overhanging lie from the Sexual Revolution.

“Yes but women used to be demure and coy, they didn’t dress and act like sluts.”

It is ironic the modern man has such a lax definition, as if looking at a man ‘the wrong way’ is slutty.

Women have always ‘made eyes’ at men, because we have eyes. When we use them, we’re accused of making eyes because studies show men are acutely sensitive to social overtures from women.


Maybe, just maybe, the nature of people doesn’t change much over time, and not everything is about you and how hard done-by you are? The term for that is a victim complex.
Look up the Evelyn Nesbit scandal, it was their OJ.
They even had versions of the Kardashians, pin-up girls before pin-ups, which really date back to the 18th century and painted adverts. If you believe any advert, it’s a de-facto IQ test and you lost.


Maybe read some social history before acting like you understand all women?

Especially those in other time periods.

^If that were true, you’d be a billionaire selling us bullshit. Advertising people understand people.

Funnily enough, women tend to be up on social history, so I find a meme that relies on our collective ignorance of it rather entertaining. The average woman knows as much social history trivia as a man knows military.

In perfect truth, such males want to castigate degeneracy without drawing attention to their own.

Let alone limiting it. R-types playing K.

This is intellectually dishonest, an argument based on bad rhetoric, bad faith, historical ignorance and makes for a coward. If you’re irritated that, in a world where sex is freer than ever, you still cannot get laid, perhaps the problem is not the people you fail to impress?

Maybe the problem is that you keep bitching like a gay guy.

Don’t look at a pretty woman and think the modern version of ‘ANKLE?!!!!‘ only to wonder why you’re labelled a creep and become a social leper. Offended people on this stuff are dull from birth.

Look and think ‘that’s nice’ and move on with your day because this superficial shit is not, by definition, important.

The women least likely to wear a miniskirt are prostitutes, because the goods are not given away for free.

Everything you know is wrong.

Ask a man with sisters if he judges their sexual desperation on what they wear.

Imagine if we applied the same judgementalism to men – all short-sleeve shirts are hereby signs of a gigolo. Shorts? Whore! Wear trousers like a proper man!

Only in the 20th century did it suddenly become acceptable (imho, no) for an adult man to wear shorts. It was considered ridiculous and you’d be mocked for it like turning up to a funeral in assless chaps, as was going topless until coal-miners striked because of job demands. This is the God’s honest truth. Look it all up. Shorts are literally the most immodest thing a man can wear, the male mini-skirt. It’s worse than a mini-skirt because things can play peek-a-boo. Short sleeves come in a close second and were taken up by the Italians with the sleeveless ‘wife-beater’ where they both should have been left, men couldn’t show their waistcoat at the beginning of the 20th Century.

Casual or modest, pick ONE.

I heard this meme from Clarey on YT years ago – he immediately began to criticize every modest fashion going, with an emphasis of vitriol for the maxi skirt. …That’s just a skirt. It’s a term for a proper skirt.

This stuck in my mind because I assumed it was a joke and waited for the punchline, the hypocrisy was so overt to a non-American. You have no idea what you want, but you know how much you want it!

He hated totally normal skirt lengths, pictured in the Edwardian videos, because it covered women up and he couldn’t ogle them, no more than five seconds after saying, to paraphrase- Why don’t women dress like ladies anymore?

The problem is male demand.

Male demand for risque fashions. Rappers are the main problem.

You can see how years of this from Kindergarten can make for avoidance of anyone who tries to pull it.

You can’t countersignal if nobody values your opinion to begin with. Look through the photos of the men saying these things and you’ll quickly realize they attract casual women because they are casual men. I haven’t seen a single one that owns a single (ONE) good suit. A good suit, by style standards and formality rules. Not a great suit, not an impressive suit, not an elegant suit, not a gentleman’s suit. A single decent item.

Which brings me to my next point: how do you intend to pay for that?

More fabric, more $$$$$. That is not a typo. A suitable wardrobe is 4-figures, a good one is five. This is based on wear and variety for activities. Being formal is more expensive, rappers lie.

Look at the guys making these claims about ladies. Are they gents?

Any woman looking at these guys will immediately notice the discrepancy, it’s like…

Which fork, Forney?

They have no clue of basic etiquette and try to prattle on like a stage mother.
They are alcoholics who couldn’t tell you the difference between a white wine and red wine goblet if their lives depended on it.

Nobody takes this ‘advice’ seriously. They have nothing to offer but opinion and personal complaint.

The funniest thing my society friends ever heard about women’s fashion was one drab man telling, loudly, anyone who would listen, that spaghetti straps were the sign of a slut.

This story still does the rounds and I’ve heard people quoting it without getting the joke.
Guess the nationality. Go on, guess. I think we all know.
Guess what he was wearing with his bad tan and fake Rolex he kept showing to people who could tell the difference.

These are the guys who refuse to buy a drink to assert interest (formal politeness) or buy a dinner they invited their intended to (the formal rule) but they want a woman with expensive taste?

Are you quite sure?

They slob around in t-shirts and shorts, in general, and wonder why the women draped in £3,000 Dolce don’t give them a second look. Class does come into it. The problem is, they have none.

Therefore, they refuse to see it as an issue…. because it IS the issue.

Women do not qualify to men. Eggs are expensive.

However, not looking like ‘Kevin the teenager’ helps.

Would you show up for a job interview wearing this? Are you using it for a sport? If the answer to both is NO, do NOT wear it out of the house and for the love of Christ get a good suit before you start spouting off on Patriarchy and the dire need of male leadership.

You don’t care how you look? Yes, it shows.

Hate sluttiness? Push to ban all contraception and sexual health clinics. Yes, all.

Hate immodest clothing? Push for Elizabethan clothing laws. Yes, in social history, there are many, many actual, literal laws that restricted things like length for modesty, and most women are aware of these. It would also mean strippers are illegal and you can’t pretend to be rich in clubs without actually being rich.

I don’t expect these guys to grow the balls, ..do you?

Conformity is a feminine virtue, as I mentioned earlier, so don’t blame all women for the actions or obscenity of singular examples, otherwise, all men are like Jack the Ripper; non sequiturs about men would be far more insulting.

Why aren’t women virtuous, they ask, not a virgin themselves.

Because none of the previous words will get through to ‘these’ people.

We mock idiots like you.

Link: What ‘progressive’ liberals do best

http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2016/11/what-do-progressive-liberals-do-best.html

Political correctness does exist as a competing form of manners among the middle-middle class, and it posits superiority over those above it (as, absurdly, privileged) as well as those beneath it (ignorant bigots).

In a word, it’s signalling masquerading as manners.

Funny how they’re exempt on ALL counts. Imagine what they were like as children! Shh, I’m telling! You used a bad word! (Albeit a correct word).

They wonder why nobody is listening to them anymore and even in the cases of classic liberals, actively voting against them. We’ve all been, collectively, far more polite than they ever could be, to put up with it for years.

For comparison

http://www.foundationsmag.com/civility.html

Whereas they are quarrelsome as a preacher at a Satanic ritual, who wouldn’t be so gauche as to say the other person was using the ‘incorrect’ pronouns, when those are dictionary-standard. Social justice is a smirking, smug means of social control.

It’s called political correctness because A. politicians are polite liars and B. they live to ‘correct’ others, generally unable to control themselves.

If you force a man to love his murderers (terrorists) you have driven him mad.

Yet, what is social justice without an authority? And they don’t have God? That leaves… themselves.

Yep, it’s an egomaniacal/megalomaniac complex, writ into politics. Consider, without politics, what do they have to talk about? How boring are they, as people?

Finally, everyone else, everyone they disregarded as the reviled majority, is signalling against them. Everyone is finally aboard the identity politics bandwagon and they don’t feel special anymore. [hypocrites] Little do they realize, this is to teach them a lesson with their own poison. That would require an ounce of self-awareness.

Everyone else replies: I am not one of you. I am proud of that.

They call this the rise of populism or nationalism or some other sneering jibe. They’re making it tilt harder and slip power from their hands.

They demonstrate no awareness of consequences (among the liberal privilege) because their very lives are sheltered and coddled. Rather than being open-minded to the ‘experiences’ of others, they shun and ridicule them. How dare the lumpen-prole question them, they don’t even attend theatre! Mind your place and ‘educate yourself’, says the girl who waits tables or lives off her parents. Expect they will lose many popularity contests elections, if not actively bet against them. Peoples are slow to rise and hard to quell.

Again, distrust anyone who makes politics their life. And what do they reply? The personal is political. Nay, it’s vanity. All is vanity and hashtag selfies with office paper signs. It would be one thing if they had a life, to be so self-obsessed with. How boring are they, individually?

I think we all know the answer. Worst of all, they’re incapable of having fun.

I mean, really, who slags off someone’s fancy dress costume?

And who tells you what to wear, aside from an obnoxious step-parent?

They have only themselves to blame for the ways they’re privately despised.

omg really wtf go away no audrey

By all means, trust fund baby, tell me about wealth redistribution and how much you admire Karl Marx.

It’s a false rebellion to preserve their social power.

If they had a brain, they’d hate globalism and the rise of developing nations more than anyone, having the most to lose. They’ll understand when they spend their twilight years working in a supermarket because the pensions ran out. Presently, they assume they’re ‘too good’ for it. They will soon be corrected. Social mobility usually goes down.

What ‘tone policing’ is not

wostonepolicingcomparisontogaslightingwtf

This is so offensive I don’t actually know where to start.

Three major points. Keep it brief.

  1. gaslighting is a serious form of psychological abuse and not a card to wave around to win an argument (i.e. you do not abuse someone by engaging in debate).
  2. gaslighting occurs over time with the mental unhinging of the victim, a chronic behaviour between a specific victim and predator. Harley Quinn is a good fictional example. It ruins lives, is no joking matter and the damage leaves a permanent mark. It is very serious and often counts as a crime when it can be proven.
  3. the people who say they want a polite conversation should be minding their manners the most, calling attention to someone’s shitty behaviour is not tone policing and certainly never gaslighting. However, SJWs are the biggest tone policers out there, say black not coloured, he in a dress is she, say POC not Paki, say gay not homo etc etc. If you use their words with sarcasm, they will literally try to play Tone Police and possibly threaten to call the police (word use is not yet illegal, empty threats and wasting police time are).

I was tempted to put this on the wall of shame but it’s more productive to explain why it’s wrong.
Also, this ugly pig somehow manages to be uglier on the inside. Abuse victims are not rhetorical chips to play against people you dislike. I’ve seen the damage firsthand and I want to personally slap anyone who minimizes their trauma.

What was the argument, the topic?

A 15 year-old who thinks cutting its hair will make it a boy, responding to the correct claim it has a mental illness with ‘fuck you’.

done with this shit downton

Truly, it is the rhetoric of champions.

They’ve lost their minds, haven’t they?

OT

Tone policing is when somebody with a higher social or other IQ insults you and all you can say in return is

“I don’t like your tone.”

That’s it. The sole ‘criticism’.

Nothing more, nothing less.

That is literally it.

If they have anything else to say, the tone thing is a passing comment. Especially if they reference a specific etiquette rule which has been breached (rationality).
Another form, often improperly used for the same task is “You’re being very rude.”
Commonly used by men losing a row with a woman when the fact she is a woman makes them rampantly insecure.
It never works to silence women (they use it in a bitchy gay way) because a gentleman would never say that (if both parties are doing it, neither can play high horse) nor get into a row in the first place. Debates and other meetings are mannered, respectable affairs and if you flout the rules, you automatically lose. This isn’t a bar at closing. This improper decorum should be pointed out after a few like infractions and once pointed out. with evidence, the debate or other meeting is already over. Arguably, it ended when the rules were broken. If you have to breach the etiquette, you are the loser.

Sometimes, the topic calls for rudeness e.g. using the word vagina in a conversation about abortion. It doesn’t change the logos of the argument, the facts. If it devolves to a verbal barrage of personal insults, that person is declaring their own loss in trying to poison the well.
The speaker knows this, but things like ‘omg rude’ and other synonyms as an excuse to end the conversation are cheap tricks to get out of explaining oneself when your turn comes around once you already volunteered to do so (making the user, in fact, the rude one).

Essentially it’s

“I’m losing and/or I’m wrong so instead of admitting it and/or bowing out gracefully, I’ll blame you (possibly gaslighting, actually); I don’t want to talk to you anymore and I will control this situation because you’re a Big Meanie and should feel ashamed of yourself, you’re a bad person for making me feelbad.”

If you keep pressing their triggered amygdala, they’ll go onto a long projecting rant about how rude, ugly and stupid you are. Hitting the three main notes of manners, looks and intelligence that liars often seek to conceal re themselves.

If women were crass as rap culture makes men

This makes everyone uncomfortable. Music betrays more about society than anything else and men who call women the rude ones are laughable. Imagine if we went around calling random men ‘pricks’ the way they call women ‘bitches’, or talking about their biceps the way they openly critique breasts. They’d feel so insecure there’d be petitions.

I honestly believe rap culture is a key factor in our cultural decline. White men trying to act like poor black ones.

It’s all ghetto signalling and no masculinity.

There is a small niche of ironic rap songs by women playing the rude game, Biscuit by Ivy Levan is one of the best.

Hey, you said you’d be fine with it the other way around, right?
Like porn, and naked models in public, and explicit catcalling?

I’d love to see a hashtag like #RapisRapeCulture because most of what the feminists bitch about comes directly from there.