Stop the fake debates please

I can already feel the heat of hate I’m going to get for this.

There’s a broken record.

You’re being played.

What strawman?

Not all (crime) are (demographic) is an excuse to dismiss data.
Probability data. It happens to the HBD crowd all the time.
A derailing tactic intended to keep you ignorant and fixated on casting aspersions (ad hom). Bullshit rhetoric. There’s no debate. It’s the statistical equivalent of anecdote and rejects the heinousness of the crime in question. In a civilized, First World society, the acceptable number is zero.

They want you to forget this.

(I also think that traumatizing a person with crime should be an aggravating offence, we already implicitly have this but it’s been forgotten in sentencing for political expedience e.g. aggravating factor for taking a child’s innocence away or raping a celibate/faithful Christian or a virgin, same principle. It could even apply to male rape of a straight man, since there is another layer to the trauma based on the individual’s beliefs and identity. “Hate” crime should be put toward those ends if anything, protecting the in-group against the out-group of the really spiteful (anti-Western) predatory targeting and life ruining. The system we have is broken because it defends the out-group like infantile damsels when they are literally criminals explicitly targeting the in-group of the society they chose to live in. That is “sexual terrorism”.)

I’ll take the one with more data as example.

Muh “not all men are rapists”

– but most rapists are male, it’s just un-PC to collect demographic data (including race) and publish it.

Seriously, try to find rape data by sex and/or sexuality, I did. Couldn’t find anything reliable. Isn’t this suspicious?

We need a data collection charter where such information in the public interest must be collected and published freely, with no distortions. Including the rate of demonstrably false accusations. It viscerally sickens me that a raped man by another man must expressly state he isn’t homosexual to be taken more seriously. Where are the libertarians on that privacy? Consent is never an assumption, property rights begin with the body.

You’re being hoodwinked. So I looked up American data since a lot of you are filthy Americans.

You won’t pay attention unless I’m talking about you.

Best I could find in a moderately long search attempt.

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=317

OT but “Attempted rape includes verbal threats of rape.”
How many men plead ignorance on that one?

All this insufficient data (even at collection stage) is intended to keep men and women at one another’s throats. To lower the fertility rate. It is dyscivic.

Sex-based triangulation. You cannot fight the system that oppresses you if you’re busy engaging in an impossible game of one-upmanship.

They also want to deny unPC but true stereotypes by hoping you won’t ask for full datasets.

Your taxes are paying for them already, you should get all the information.

They also are intellectually dishonest to report victim but not criminal.
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6427
Revised Oct 2018 data from 2016 (latest).
e.g.
“The rate of violent victimization against males increased from 2015 to 2016, rising from 15.9 to 19.6 per 1,000 males age 12 or older.
From 2015 to 2016, the rate of aggravated assault against males age 12 or older rose from 2.7 to 4.2 per 1,000.
The rate of violent victimization against persons ages 25 to 34 rose from 21.8 per 1,000 persons to 28.4 per 1,000 from 2015 to 2016, and the rate for females in this age group rose from 24.6 to 33.4 per 1,000.”

>implies women are not persons but O.K.

Who attacked them? A ghost? It is a common incomplete sentence and poor grammar. It’s also scientism.

You need a Punnett square and I see none.

Male, female and male, female. Basic stats again? Otherwise an individual reading cannot know their risk.

“Not all men” really is the fake right equivalent of the fake left’s “not all immigrants”.

-but most terrorists are foreign, culturally and racially, it’s just un-PC to collect demographic data….. again.

See the pattern?

You’re chasing your tails.

Red-pill statistics can make men look really, really bad. Men have a right to know the likes of rape data, in particular, because they need to know they’re at great risk from other men as well.

Naturally it doesn’t list the latter but they take one step forward in two steps back by collecting male victim data…. only to neglect entirely listing the female. Mathematics in need of context. Society is not just one group, you collect all the data or it’s close to useless. They know this, it’s deliberate. This is intended to bait silly MRAs who won’t even notice it doesn’t mention perp details.

They do make another error in saying Male for Male Victim rape and subsuming the female in an age range.
Piss-poor data entry. I notice everything.

Collect ALL the data or no, we cannot debate it. 

It would entirely become a futile argument of ignorance. 

They know this. Mathematically, you have no data.

Conveniently, they don’t have to change and lower the crime rate (toward zero) if you don’t know how badly they’re doing their job.


5% of the latest reported US crime was rape.
That’s absurdly high for such a specific and brutal crime.
(This is what happens when you don’t keep serial offenders off the streets).
1 in 20 criminal acts was rape. You need all the data, America.

If I hadn’t screencapped this, you probably wouldn’t have believed me.

Irony! The dramatic irony!

Statistically you’re more likely to suffer domestic violence than stranger violence. That is horrifying. You were over twice as likely to get raped as burgled (1.99% in 2016). Do the libertarians care about bodily rights? Statistically they should care twice as much as about burglaries. The average citizen is twice as likely to be raped as generally assaulted, do you consider non-sexual assault a real problem?

You call yourself the First World? Greatest nation on Earth? Please, lead by example.

We’re right there with you. Bring back the standards of civil behavior, the etiquette. Update it, sure, but you do need it back again, what little data you have is starkly apparent in this. Perhaps enshrined in law, to make sure everyone is clear.

Not all- is NOT how statistics work.
Using big words doesn’t make it a debate.
You are not sounding intelligent to anyone who uses their brain.

Demand more data and think for yourselves.

Fellow Westerners are not the enemy. It is those who keep you shrouded in ignorance and wasting your time attending a digital circus of vicious fallacies. Oh but the delivery of their lies is so sweet, right?

Not all (blank) – they cant.

They don’t have to be.

It’s a false equivalence.

Rape doesn’t belong in the First World and neither do hostile foreigners.

Hopefully you can see why they won’t let me near a television camera.

You’re only watching the puppets who never raise real points. You can’t settle real issues in a soundbite or cheeky Youtube clip.

“Boys will be boys” is pathological altruism enabling the psychopathic of the male population against everyone else and sexist infantilisation.

Vegan propaganda

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/01/third-of-britons-have-stopped-or-reduced-meat-eating-vegan-vegetarian-report

Note the link says one third that magically disappears.

Fake news, people who can afford to go to Waitrose are going to boutique butchers.

One in eight”

POOF! GONE!

“Britons is now vegetarian or vegan, according to a new report on food shopping that underlines a revolution in the UK’s eating habits.”
Invest in healthcare, there’s a boom in medical conditions on the horizon.

https://www.aarp.org/health/brain-health/info-10-2011/b12-level-affects-brain-size-health-discovery.html

Veganism: The brain aging diet?

Vegetarian and vegan are totally different diets, stop conflating them, the false equivalence gives me a Vitamin B12 deficiency brain shrinkage headache.

There’s also the blatantly obvious fact that more plants increases pesticide ingestion. Organic plants still contain a lot of pesticide, increasing intake substantially (% of diet) will steamroll omnivore consumption.

Plus the animal and bug murder of ‘pest control’.

https://www.quora.com/If-farmers-use-pesticides-to-kill-pests-doesnt-that-make-their-produce-not-vegan

A five year-old could understand that making food involves killing things, that also want to eat your food. Biological competition?

Here’s where they sneak in the propaganda:

A series of influential reports have said that avoiding meat and dairy products is the single biggest way consumers can reduce their environmental impact on the planet, because farming animals is such a CO2-intensive process.”

So is the article about a Waitrose survey or mysterious, unlinked (!) reports?

“Nick Palmer, the head of Compassion in World Farming UK says “Science proves that the healthiest diet is one that is plant-heavy. By eating less meat, fish, eggs and dairy

most food, then

and choosing higher welfare when we do, we can all help animals, people and the planet.””

Science proves no, it doesn’t.

Source? There are certainly no solid studies like that on vegans. We’ve been looking but all they hand us is hand-waving conjecture and reddit-tier self-report. Scientism promotes the high-fructose diet of veganism and their skin shows it.

Also, people are animals. If you really wanted to help the planet, you’d commit suicide. Total extinction of your carbon footprint, as a carbon-based life form.

The Waitrose info seems to confirm it’s a static fad, as in, no new people are taking it up.

Is that it? Also now it’s 1 in 5.

“Publication of the findings represents awkward timing for Waitrose.” PR. Fake news. A term banned in the press here now.
Faking data for the public should be illegal, especially when these people are dispensing medical advice.

Back to pure, organic bullshit:
“The number of vegans in the UK, who shun all animal products including dairy and eggs, has grown fourfold in the past four years from 150,000 to 600,000,”

Wait for it.

“…according to the Vegan Society.”
Would they lie to us? And that isn’t very encouraging considering rising obesity levels, what % of vegetarians and what % of vegans are overweight at all?

Look at the Waitrose data. There are tiny percentages involved.
For <50s, the number is static between age ranges. There is no movement.

The lines added represent the mean for almost all age groups, and it wobbles within 1-2%, nothing!

“Waitrose was the first UK supermarket to install dedicated vegan sections in 134 of its stores in May.”

Ah, this is an advert.

What’s the difference between a cucumber and a vegan cucumber?

What you do with it.

That justifies the price hike.

“This year, we’ve seen vegan food go mainstream” said Natalie Mitchell.

No, it isn’t, the rate of uptake isn’t higher with people under 30 or even 20.

If you’re gonna lie with statistics, get good with it?

“people are discovering that it tastes amazing.”

reconcile with

“Many of the vegan and vegetarian respondents said they missed bacon sandwiches and pork scratchings.”

“About 60% of vegans and 40% of vegetarians surveyed said they had adopted the lifestyle over the past five years, with 55% citing animal welfare concerns, 45% health reasons and 38% environmental issues.”

So what? Relevance? Make a different article proving that.

They don’t want to label halal meat, let alone ban its inhumane production in this country. They don’t care about the animals. Whatsoever.

There are no good studies I’ve seen on veganism altogether and vegetarian studies are fraught with method errors then environment – well, most new meat demand comes from China so you’re barking up the wrong tree. And their demand is only rising with their population boom.

https://www.globalmeatnews.com/Regions/Asia/China
https://data.oecd.org/agroutput/meat-consumption.htm

Behold! Real DATA!

That is not your imagination, Israel consumes BY FAR the most meat in the world (poultry value cinches it).

When are you shaming them, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Peru?

Are the Guardian calling on the UK government to reduce production in this country of Halal and Kosher meat (insufficiently or not at all stunned, torturing the animal?) and to stop selling it abroad, increasing cruel meat demand? No? Then they don’t care about the animals.

“Scientific research published this year found that without meat and dairy consumption, global farmland use could be reduced by more than 75% – an area equivalent to the US, China, the EU and Australia combined – and still feed the world.”

So who eats the most meat? Clue – not white people! Are we all meant to go on rations (worse than rations, majority food group eradication) for the supposed benefit of other people in the world who don’t?
Shaming people for eating, they’re totally serious.

Detour:

BCD – children deserve to develop properly and adults require adequate nutrition for fertility, especially women. I’m shocked the feminists are too dense to twig that shaming dairy is heavily sexist against women.

Before someone who can’t google gets triggered at the word ‘sexist’…

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070228064902.htm
“Researchers in the United States have found a link between a low-fat dairy diet and increased risk of anovulatory infertility.” For one study.

There is definitely a link between veganism (worse, no dairy) and female infertility which remains unexplored.

“In the drinks aisle, Waitrose singles out the popularity of organic wine.”

Alcohol is proven to permanently damage your DNA. Health reasons, huh? Not signalling?

Wine doesn’t have mental benefits over beer, either. It’s false stereotype.

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2018/10/13/iq-and-alcohol-choices/

“Waitrose’s managing director, Rob Collins, said: “Being mindful of how we live and eat has become a priority in today’s world. As we become increasingly mindful of our own health, the wellbeing of our family and that of the planet, we’re reshaping how we shop, cook and eat.””

Read: consume less food so your betters can consume more, for the good of socialist globalism.

It won’t make you stupider, that’s impossible….

https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html
“It was this new meat diet, full of densely-packed nutrients, that provided the catalyst for human evolution, particularly the growth of the brain…”

Fun fact: A lot of Hollywood goes vegan because it allows their body to handle more drug abuse.

https://munchies.vice.com/en_us/article/zmzjnw/is-cocaine-vegan-it-depends-on-who-you-ask

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/03/13/174205188/is-your-medicine-vegan-probably-not
“Is Your Medicine Vegan? Probably Not”

The Darwin Awards need a Vegan section.

http://www.veganfitness.net/viewtopic.php?t=271

“Some people avoid products that are tested on or derived from animals, but don’t feel drug-use, smoking, and the like are directly related to the issue of animal cruelty.”

http://gawker.com/5905479/woman-dies-of-starvation-while-on-an-all-sunlight-diet

Here’s an illustration of the issue I take with surveys on diet.

I hand-typed this.

https://www.vegsoc.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=753
Vegetarian Society:

2007 – 3618 adults
2009 – 3219 adults
2010 – 548 adults
2011 – 1031 adults
2012 – 1491 adults surveyed.

2007 – 3% vegetarian (more female), 2% vegan (more men).
2009 – 3% vegetarian, 5% partially (WTF is that? That’s normal).
2010 – 2% adults AND children vegetarian. Less than 1% vegan.
2011 – 2% adults AND children vegetarian. Less than 1% vegan.
2012 – 2% adults AND children vegetarian. Less than 1% vegan.

Reconcile with

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/number-of-vegans-in-britain-rises-by-360-in-10-years/

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/apr/01/vegans-are-coming-millennials-health-climate-change-animal-welfare

Opposite politics, reporting the same shoddy “data”.
Thinks that make you go Hmmmmm….

What propaganda? Fake news is banned.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20181023/19301840900/uk-government-screws-head-straight-bans-use-term-fake-news-govt-officials.shtml

You don’t need a phrase like that.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/440783/proportion-of-vegetarians-in-the-united-kingdom/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/562911/global-sales-growth-of-the-vegan-market-by-country/

“As of 2016, Asia Pacific held the largest share of vegan consumers globally, with approximately nine percent of people following a vegan diet in this area.”

Fake Muslim science miniatures

Fucking LARPers.

I am shocked they would lie. Shocked and horrified.

https://aeon.co/essays/why-fake-miniatures-depicting-islamic-science-are-everywhere

Imagine my shock, dear viewer. Just picture it.

You could blow me down with a feather. Much disappointment in the Establishment.

I used to believe in academia, like Santa.

It’s like Clock Boy but retro forgeries in suspiciously European styles!

I’ve seen so much retconning of the gallery of famous scientists, engineers and inventors to include Muslims, despite zero actual evidence. When you have to invent historical smart people, it makes the recent lack of achievement stand out more? And what happened to your IQ since then? More inbreeding? It isn’t like you were barred from studying or working on it like the women, is it? And what’s with the helplessness then? Why do you need the West bringing you water in the desert if you’re so much fucking smarter than us? Why do you still have survival based problems about various diseases and Biblical style droughts? Why does every place that turns Muslim sink back about 500 years minimum in living standard? Why not have a Muslim sci-fi film and be fucking done with it? Like the cringefest that was Black Panther but beheading someone for making a tapestry of Allah.

Maybe making a tapestry of the beheading of the guy making a tapestry of Allah. How civilized!

Intellectual honesty and openness are racial (heritable) traits the East has never, ever had.
Stop LARPing.

The European dark ages are a myth but the Islamic ones were never over!

They hate heliocentrism, they didn’t invent a fucking telescope to see other stars.

And they don’t get to claim the Ancient Egyptians either, while I’m at it.

Koran is very clear that the Sun revolves around the Earth and we’re the centre of the Universe. Stars cannot be Suns or else it involves awkward questions about gravity.

These people literally die of diarrhea in the current year because they wipe with their hand! They won’t pick up basic hygiene practices other peoples have been doing for thousands of years.

That’s why they fell for the desert nutjob religion. It plays into every animal impulse and condones it, they’re constantly in the news for raping and murdering their own daughters.

https://www.nst.com.my/news/crime-courts/2017/08/265560/man-who-allegedly-raped-sodomised-own-daughter-600-times-be-charged

They are thick enough to immigrate into a degenerate Western culture and punish their relatives for growing up to emulate it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3832242/Muslim-father-rapes-daughter-Norway-punishment-Westernised.html

no comment

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6244169/Two-week-old-baby-condition-hospital-raped.html

It’s like the Jews claiming to be so fucking smart when they actively chose to settle in the desert then act like God was oppressing them. Sorry, no.

A Breakaway Civilization

https://thebreakaway.wordpress.com/2015/12/12/richard-dolan-what-it-is-what-it-means-for-us/

“The legendary physicist, Robert J. Oppenheimer, put the matter succinctly. “There must be no barriers for freedom of inquiry,” wrote the man who led the Manhattan Project. “There is no place for dogma in science. The scientist is free, and must be free to ask any question, to doubt any assertion, to seek for any evidence, to correct any errors.””

If I had a frontpage, that’d be on it.

…”What’s especially galling is that the nature of modern scientific and academic work enable such secrecy to thrive. This belies what they are supposed to do, at least according to the proponents of an open society.

They’re lying to prevent the masses from rioting.

One reason for this unhappy situation is simply how science operates. All scientific and academic inquiry is predicated upon being able to work from open and fully accessible sources. As Oppenheimer understood, scientific research must be available for examination by outsiders. The word for this is falsifiability. It’s an important concept in science. If you lack the chance to “falsify” a proposition – that is, to prove it wrong – then it’s not valid. It may in fact be true, but philosophically speaking, it’s not valid.”

Scientism loves the paywall but hates borders.

Go figure.

Pathological science

http://www.skepticblog.org/2012/03/08/pathological-science/

“Many researchers, even hobbyists and enthusiasts, want for some one result in particular to be true. They’re always on the lookout for data that support their desired conclusion. This is not, by itself, pathological;”

actually experimenter bias is a bias

“but for some who take it to an extreme, it can become that way.”

Money, fame and tenure are on the line, what incentive?

Publish or perish threat?

Your life ruined? Family ashamed? Reputation at stake? What subconscious motive?

Many famous cases of pathological science began as legitimate science, and often the researcher would become distracted by tiny results that suggested an effect when in fact there was none. Belief supplanted objectivity, and the science became pathological science.”

While it shouldn’t be used to deter experimentation, it’s the grand reply to the phrase “established science”, an appeal to authority that doesn’t exist.

e.g.

Smells like social psychology.

Islamophobia, patriarchy (as poltergeist), systemic racism (well, if it’s the system – the evolved system – it can’t be the people in the system), creationism (not that evolution is perfect), global warming by ignore cooling data over decades etc.

Anything heavily political would be pathological science e.g.

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2018/06/20/social-psychology-fraud/

And attitude surveys aren’t science. Seriously. You see an attitude survey, you swerve.

There’s also the problem of finding one thing but claiming another e.g. woman A makes less money than man B, but failing to control for enough other factors and still have a significant gap (above chance) to claim sexism. However, there are sexist pay gaps. Why don’t they study this? Why don’t they follow the proper method? They also apply to men in female-dominant fields too! It’s political because they’d rather lie and do bad science (hurting poor women, ironically) than let men seem like the victims for five minutes!

Pseudoscience is used by self-proclaimed “skeptics” to poison the well against the competition. Team Red will say Team Blue’s work in the same field is “pseudoscience” to boost their chances of getting the finite research grants they compete over. It’s all about the money.

So you’ll find the most successful liars comprise most “celebrity scientists”, the hallmark of scientism (personality cults develop), and when their work is eventually exposed (some Freud, Kinsey not yet, Zimbardo recently) then the world is shocked because echoes don’t pass through Ivory Tower walls. The field knew. It always knew. It hid it.

There’s no such thing as pseudoscience in the sense of a forbidden topic. Distasteful yes, but so what? Do politicians dictate freedom of thought now? No, but they sign grant checks and that’s basically the same thing.

Past a certain level, isn’t commonality of a certain unPC disposition just normal?

Scientism as ugliness

Empty, soulless man-made crap.

Where is the elegance?

The sophistication?

The form that isn’t functional!!!

Globalist culture is no culture.

If you want a scientist on the matter:

“If this does not appeal to you sufficiently to recognize in me a discoverer of principles, do me, at least, the justice of calling me an “inventor of some beautiful pieces of electrical apparatus.” – Nikola Tesla, 1907