Narcissistic male views marriage as status symbol

And a cover. It is less a yoke and more a ball and chain because they expect to take, take take and never give (even their gender role) unless they expect more in return – so not a union, more like running a business.

Good marriages aren’t a scoreboard.

Being married isn’t an achievement, you signed your name. It isn’t a status to hit others with like a rhetorical weapon. A good marriage is an achievement but I guarantee the married men bitching about single women don’t have one of those. Shouldn’t you be with your family than wasting time online? It’s un-Biblical, they’re bad husbands. They cherish every woman BUT their wife. (And they deny their body belongs to their wife).

The Madonna/Whore complex means they are emotionally impotent with their own wife. They hate her because she is his wife. (Because they hate themselves, thus resent her for loving him).

They don’t have empathy, they can’t love (even themselves). They can only imitate and parody i.e. seduction, “romance” cliches, while acting out of sync behind the mark’s back (lying, confabulated memory, cheating). It’s ALL superficial so they intend to lovebomb, mirror (to seem like a soulmate) and trick “good” women into the trap of legal union (personality disorders do this all the time, usually the mask doesn’t slip until after the wedding so long courtship had the old role of filtering them out). The prey can’t escape.

There is usually gaslighting during courtship into codependency (or deeper from an already codependent woman) so he uses the woman for supply before the marriage but she views it as emotional intimacy (wrong*), taking advantage of the novelty of the situation and fact she hasn’t seen all his sides (not informed consent). They don’t even know how bitter he is until after marriage, typically (because he is running off her supply so it doesn’t come out). These are later the divorced guys who act like innocent maidens attacked by the dragon of divorce and warn all men off marriage because they personally sucked at it. (Husband is a job so they devalue it once it turns out to be, you know, WORK).

Psychopaths are best known for doing that bait and trap thing with marriage, we need strict legal protections from such people (men and women both) and psychopaths are the most pathological narcissist.

There are plenty of good videos on that channel, including ones about women and traits the narcissist seeks to take for themselves via relationships, as an emotional vampire.

Oh, and they always cheat in marriage. They claim all men are similarly weak or “unhappy” because they don’t like other men either, thinking of other men as happy, faithful or good husbands would kill them on the inside.

So when no-fault divorce is over, they’ll be screwed twice!

Marriages require both parties to have emotional maturity (cooperation, compromise) so any union with a narcissist in it is doomed, even if the other party is a literal Saint. Naturally, it’s never their fault, like any incompetent person so they get married again and again and make the same “mistakes” again and again but there’s no agency involved apparently.

They were innocent victims of the vagina, as they purchased a ring and got down on one knee and said things they didn’t mean and spent months planning and turned up to say some lines and where, oh, where, did they go wrong?

They’re never wrong, according to them. Despite how their life is always a mess.

They’ll claim men are leaders in a marriage but resent the business of actually leading.

This is the guy who’ll claim to be traditional but hates religion and has a long, long line of “exes” you’re not “allowed” to “judge”. They’re such hypocrites they’re a walking joke.

*Emotional labour is real and doing too much of it (for two whole people) can kill a woman (stress x disease risk) or, rarely, a man. Commonly, a man is killed by stress at work (physical labour) but a woman’s lifespan is shortened by stress at home (emotional labour) so who a woman marries can literally be life or death, it can be the difference of a happy life and extra decades. Women need this information.

I’d bet good money that Type A men have an unhappy marriage and the woman has a similar disease risk profile. A married man’s primary responsibility is to his wife and until society pushes this point hard, men won’t try. They’ll ignore the marriage for career, friends, addiction (workaholism is the socially desirable addiction though). If the man won’t Be the Man, nothing the woman does will succeed. Men shirk their duties, abandon the home (literally or spiritually) and what can a woman do about that? Force him? No! Then she’s being the man!

And random but when society values women’s happiness and feminine energy levels over her contribution to GDP, we’ll be nicer overall. EVERYBODY WINS.

I’ve seen feminine women mocked by other women (envy) and torn down by men (who knows it’s easier to bed a High T harridan). Pick your poison, guys. Either you want women to earn their keep and be a whore in your bedroom or you want a docile purer kind and shun the former. You can’t expect mutual exclusives, it’s impossible. And you have to be worthy of the woman you want or it won’t last.

Funny example

One guy I spoke to said he liked “traditional women” but he also filtered FOR a “career woman”.

His words. He thought this was clever. He wanted the status of her “achievements”, you see.

When pressed (and I was pressed myself at the ignorance), he said he expected a woman to have a “good” (secure) job (be locked in), and have “at least” a middle-class salary. I just told him he sounded like a woman… from the 50s.

He literally did, I swear, there were other details that sealed it e.g. sexual experience. Why would any sane man want a wife who’s had more fun with other men?

He insisted there was no contradiction or way this could possibly backfire on him. That, my friends, is the idiot in action. When I pointed out those are impossible values systems, polar opposites, he claimed a traditional woman would be “bad in bed” (like you can’t teach them?) and “lazy” for not wanting an office job. The feminist propaganda has sunk into men the deepest.

They feel entitled to seek their male qualities in their wife.

That’s dysfunctional and you can’t convince me otherwise.

How lazy! What, is he going to take on the female role and give birth?

He only claimed to want trad because it’s the current status symbol, because he likes the idea of it and the supply it might give him. He married an SJW. She cooks sometimes and “lets him” tradlarp. He’s a moron. The woman who is cautious is feminine, there’s no rush – the woman desperate for a husband, any husband, is using you.

I have betting odds on his divorce. Easy money.

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2018/07/16/why-wont-women-be-right-wing/

As it is, hypersexualised porno society has made women very masculine, higher T. They also need it to defend themselves in a low trust, multiculti society and that, naturally, never gets a mention. Unsafe society = everyone gets more aggressive. Sort out the former and the latter reverts.

We’re cultural refugees, in a way. Pining for a world that doesn’t exist.

We live in the dishonour culture, where people who act like whores aren’t ashamed of it, they’re proud. With freedom of association, we could avoid these people (m/f).

Not every man who wants to get married would be a good husband. Sometimes they want a slave to abuse but in the Bible such treatment (like property, like using a machine or a PA, housekeeper) instead of the equal yoke, to love and to cherish, was grounds for divorce. So nope, they can’t hide behind religion…. unless we can stone them for adultery (lawsuits were less bloody).

Trad test: what should be the punishment for adultery?

Trads know adultery is a crime. To “commit” adultery demands punishment.

Good men versus porn addict liars

Prime example why women need social protection.

Christians need to talk about this or our own group is a sitting, gullible duck.

Lies have legal consequences.
http://www.lovewhatmatters.com/im-that-girl-that-spent-6-months-with-a-ring-on-her-finger-that-girl-that-planned-an-entire-wedding-only-to-find-out-a-week-prior-it-was-all-a-lie/

A few obvious points, obvious to fellow K-types.

Never marry an addict.
Porn is cheating.  (see Bible)
Porn destroys marriages. (because adultery is the thrill)

“The coldest thing I’ve ever witnessed in my entire life is the lying eyes of the man I love, gazing deep into my soul as multiple lies rolled from his lips. He knew it was all a lie, but for some reason, he could look at the woman he claimed to love so dearly straight in her eyes, and lie to her face. I never knew until that moment how unconsciously cold a single person could be.”

A liar for years? Congratulations, you avoided a miserable marriage to a filthy narcissist. Being married to one of those (m/f) can make you wish you were dead, if you read countless online accounts, so God was protecting you from that.

To lie multiple times (and every day) plus once caught? Narc.
Possibly psychopath, since he only seemed to value her as a status object (wife).

Good women can still be treated like dirt by burned out r-types pretending to be traditional to cash out and “have it all” (but once the novelty has worn off, they cheat and get divorced anyway, they just wanted the status – women can do it too). Women have a right to know and avoid bad marriage prospects. (As do good men from bad women).

betrayal trauma occurs when someone we depend on for survival or are significantly attached to, violates our trust in a critical way.”

A divorce would be Christian in this case, if they had married because 1. he was depicting himself in “false light”, she didn’t know who she was marrying. Plus the abuse psychologically from the cheating (2, betrayal trauma) and the addiction itself (3, which causes brain damage).

He portrayed himself as a good, honest man to trick her into legal wedlock.

Good honest women need to be protected from this type. She was true.

He didn’t even know what love is!

Makeup you can wash off. Lies void contracts. His narc mirroring caused her emotional bond, she never really fell for him because there is no him. There’s nothing in there! No person!

Narcs prefer to bond with empaths so good women must be especially vigilant. They assume you’ll be like a replacement mother figure and never leave them, you see. There’s logic. Whatever abuse, a mother’s love is eternal.

You can’t have a good marriage and Christian life + children with an r-type.

They are never satisfied in ANY marriage, it’s the nature of personality disease!

If they could change, they’d have done it before you met or they’d be prudent enough to never get an addiction in the first place.

Narcissists run the Bird with a Broken Wing routine, don’t fall for it.

Send them to a shrink, don’t play Mommy! Your husband is supposed to be the one caring for YOU.

Professionals have to train and gain the ability to prescribe serious meds for this! You can’t talk it out!

The level of psychopathic disdain to lie to her and plan this deception over years…. likely psychopath.

I bet he randomly showed up at a church to go wife-hunting (yes, hunting) because a PUA forum told him to. AVOID the crazy. Peeple was a good idea – as a courtship app. It replicates an honour culture, where reputation is well known.

Imagine hiring a business partner and finding out they have a criminal record. Like that only a very intimate betrayal. Possibly rape by fraud. Possibly. Note her disgust at the mask drop. Solid K response.

Psychopaths’ MO is to hide who they really are (for years) until AFTER the marriage. So you can’t run.

All other mental illness typically presents before a wedding so a psycho is literally every man/woman’s worst nightmare as a fiance/e.

Get a background check. If they get defensive, immediately break it off.

False light on wikipedia doesn’t discuss marital fraud anymore (bring it back, Trump!) but there are others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misrepresentation

misrepresentation is an untrue or misleading[1] statement of fact made during negotiations by one party to another, the statement then inducing that other party into the contract.[2][3]

Marriage is a contract.

Legally binding.

The misled party may normally rescind the contract, and sometimes may be awarded damages as well (or instead of rescission).

https://info.legalzoom.com/meant-fraud-grounds-divorce-24925.html

Fraud
The definition of fraud in the context of divorce law varies between states. Generally, it means that one spouse grossly misrepresented issues so important that the other spouse would not have married him had she known the truth. For example, when a husband tells his wife before they married that he had never been married before and she discovers after the marriage that he was lying. His lie about his previous marriage may be considered fraud, especially if the wife can show that she would not have married him had she known this was his second marriage. Little white lies usually do not constitute fraud.”

Precisely. Christian expectations for a Christian marriage. It’s very simple.

Lies have legal consequences, degenerates.

Marriage is all about who/what you are. You lie about that, clear-cut case of fraud. K-types deserve legal protection. R-types shouldn’t care because they don’t want to marry!

Do we have to get them to sign a legal disclaimer that they haven’t falsely represented themselves?

Isn’t the marriage contract enough?

You’re late

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/the-rights-human-capital-problem/

I was discussing the Signalling Right and fake Ks years ago.

The rightist Swine is a nominally conservative type who is openly promoting traditional values such as God, homeland and family but in reality he’s a treacherous calculated Machiavellian type of low moral virtue, high time preference and low loyalty.

Fake Ks playing both sides. Won’t work.

You can’t “Have it All.”

The same way a leftist activist is constantly talking about the oppressed proletariat and while raising his own political power and enriching himself with other people’s money, the Swine of the Right is constantly talking about the virtue

There’s your problem.
No moral authority.

I’ve said this.

of raising a family, the depth of his faith and the love of his homeland, and at the same time using every possible opportunity to raise his political power and wealth in the most corrupt and criminal way possible, regardless of the consequence to the things he nominally holds dear. The Swine usually has very little manners, and behaves like a brute

Know them by their fruit blah blah blah yada yada.

You know this point. I won’t repeat this point.

despite of his education. In short, The Swine is a swindler and a charlatan who successfully uses right wing rhetoric

Con artist.

Like a tithe for political signalling.

Signal with YOUR LIFE.

Live it or GTFO.

I’m tired of tradlarp men who are like marriage and kids for thee but not for me. Slutting is evil unless I’m doing it. We need strong fighting men but the draft is mean.

Or the worst, fence-sitting: I’m a social liberal, economic conversative. trans. Everyone must like me! Please like me!

That is a cuck. Selfish individualists.

Impossible too. You want a huge national debt then? How else pay for the liberalism? It’s a black hole.

Libertarians who want to shackle others with the free shit they believe should exist. The liberal picking someone else’s pockets and calling it charity.

It isn’t charity with someone else’s money.

Craven pricks.

to expand his wealth and political power. In a way, he is either a communist apparatchik who successfully replaced the hammer and a sickle with the cross or the village brute who finds it very convenient to sit in the first row on a Sunday mass.

They think traditionalism = hating women and using them like slaves.
They are that bestial. And ignorant of history. Like divorce was invented in the 1960s? Like cheating on a spouse is normal or Biblical? Like women are large children instead of ..women? Like they don’t make an effort in the homemaking thing? Like love matches don’t have rules? Like fornication is okay? Like alcoholism is necessary? Like courtship is for suckers? They assume the shallow 20th century lies about how these things worked.

It’s like the porn star pretending to be Born-Again Christian (there is no such thing as Born-Again, anything, that’s prideful) once her career tanks.

You can’t cash out with a clean slate.

God can see.

comment: Conservatives offered realism and a sense of human limits to the Lefts quest for perfection. They misunderstood Tradition – which is about the quest for perfection just as much as Leftism is. Had the Right offered its own version of the quest for perfection, it might have stood a chance.

They think we’ll be so weak as to forgive them like it’s a human thing. Worse, treat them as superior for having the “experience” of deliberate evil. No, Russell Brand. Your status here is worm. Earn your keep quietly for decades before lecturing the faithful. We are not grateful you’re here, we existed before. You can’t fake this.

They’re holier than thou atheists. It’s creepy. We don’t need their input.

They have no character and we can’t treat dishonorable people otherwise.

We refuse to treat the local slut like a monk. Fuck off.

The only light you’ve seen is on an ATM. We won’t corrupt ourselves and shelter you.

But progressivism is the terror

It destroys the world and kills every culture it touches.

It drags down the highest tech societies.

Materialism + Hedonism + Equalism* = Progressivism.

*”Liberal Creationism”

http://www.henrydampier.com/2016/07/terrorism-creates-jobs/

Survival instinct is the worst signal to them, that you don’t self-hate, that you want to preserve something good, that you don’t want to go down with the poorly constructed ship.

We have lemmings, laughing as they jump off a cliff.

The muddled view of Westerners has been to decide to aggressively evangelize the world to adhere to the progressive faith….

Perhaps the more significant (and even darkly amusing) issue is that slave raids are now common enough in England that the government bothered to produce a report about it which claimed that the practice was pervasive throughout Northern Europe. It’s not so much that Westerners can’t be roused to action on behalf of foreigners in distant lands — they can’t even be roused to battle in defense of local girls.

To even begin to attempt to rouse people against it is to provoke the wrath of the authorities.

Low in philia.

There is no state charity because it’s compulsory. Charity had no problems when it was voluntary and Church-run (philia institution). The Government is low in philia because a dollar is a dollar is a dollar. The whip-hand goes to those who pay them.

This country was gun-stripped under dodgy pretense but the wedding next month is getting weapons protection.

Why?

If we’re so equal?

Why do some people get the right to self-defense?

If foreigners don’t realize that they really want to be progressives deep-down, if we spend enough money on foreign aid, capitulate to shakedowns from foreign powers, and show an unwillingness to use nuclear weapons, they will eventually learn to become more progressive.

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Collectivism is genetic. They have already “utterly failed” – Merkel.

Malaria medications et al. for signalling savior white people really fucked over our age-old strategy of getting rid of them – send them abroad on “missions” and they won’t come back. At least machete attacks are up.

One way to convert more people to the progressive cause, it’s thought, is to respond to provocations with greater and ever-more-insistent demands to be tolerant

No, you don’t know these people. I do.

I go to their parties, their charities, their galas, their vacations, their funerals, their many, many weddings, their dinners and their common meetings and meeting places.

They aren’t throwing up the white flag AT ALL.

The message is clear: take the other white people and leave us alone!

So they are. Have been for decades. They do. For now. They’ll allow the betrayal as long as their own kind are spared. They are selfish, greedy cowards. That’s all.

This is being challenged by numbers. Hence slight push back. Toothless, still. People scared of unwashed kale. You should hear some of the shit they tell me. Fairies, crystal alignments, any superstition to replace religion.

Everyone else – The Lion.

The poor people are the scapegoat, the sacrificial offering. They all blamed for all sin. This toughens them.

They assume they, enlightened Saints, will always be spared.

Hollywood will always be sick until white leading men are a thing of the past.

“Dey took our jobs!” say the rednecks in South Park. Keep laughing, let’s cut off California’s water supply.

It’ll happen.

Already, they can’t pay their bills because Hollywood refuses to pay its “fair share” of taxes.

https://www.theperspective.com/debates/entertainment/hollywood-too-white/

We’ll see how funny it is when Lawrence is on the street as a syphilitic crack whore.

[she does not currently have syphilis, to my knowledge but it is on the rise]

Notice less signalling white men since the non-whites have started asserting themselves?
They grow bolder every day, turnin’ everyone a K.

With hardly any white people to prop them up, the social justice movements are dying.

If only we had a metric for this.

Spot the Coincidence

Joan Rivers knew about Lawrence and Weinstein then Rivers ends up mysteriously dying on an operating table. Uhuh. Then most of Harvey’s girls’ pics get leaked, all their blackmail and only their blackmail material, blamed on “hackers” (read: Anonymous, who doesn’t care about famous tits), after a rumour they’re gonna take him down circulates.

I don’t like internet people getting blamed for the degeneracy of normalfags.

I don’t like it one bit.

When is Assbender getting divorced from that dog?

But not all the yacht girls: Winslet, Hayek and co are safe. For the time being.

Personally, I want to see Blowjobs Rosie go down.

Geffen, Spielberg, many creeps walk free. They make money.

Sweet, sweet, tax-free pedo change.

In other news, Dale Winton, gay Trump admirer, turns up dead.

Socialists, the small-time dishonest

Oh, you might try to pretend this video doesn’t apply to you.

Like you’re too good to need a boost.

It applies to everyone, don’t lie.

Oh, but you might say, this has nothing to do with the half-way slide from socialism to Communism, which killed hundreds of millions of people.

Well, aside from missing the point, they have studied it.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/22/socialists-are-cheaters-says-new-study

An ideology pushed by rationalizing thieves, which produces more of the same.

Until, eventually, the bandwagon effect means the whole system collapses.

All producers become parasites.

Communism and socialism are great ways of burning up resources.

Problem is, you can’t stop it. Don’t blame the hedonic treadmill, it’s rentseeking group competition. It’s a thieve’s arms race. One group gets X, your group needs, nay, DEMANDS, X+1. Because the resources are still finite so you not only have no choice (WORKERS’ FREEDUMB!) but to participate but you must also be aggressive (immoral).

Communism kills jobs via the security of the labour itself (no trade unions if there’s no boss to depend on) and the fruit (income, savings).

Why so many champagne socialists?

Well, they believe the workers are too dumb to take advantage or they could outcompete. An argument to IQ.

This would be correct if numbers were not worth more in such a system.

You have one man stealing 1 million from the workers.

You have a thousand men stealing a thousand. Which represents the greater problem in society?

Sure, both. But one caused another, didn’t it? Eventually it’s dog eat dog, every man for himself and his family. This sounds like capitalism but too corrupt to have true signals. There is no full rebound. I wonder how that feels…

What about the quality of people involved in this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5520657/Troubled-kids-likely-favour-radical-socialist-policies-adults.html

Mentally maladapted for the world, they cannot honestly compete.
So far, so r-select.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/05/least_surprising_academic_study_of_2017_physically_weak_men_tend_to_be_socialists.html

Yep.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/tories-attractive-socialists-conservatives-labour-study-wealthy-good-looking-a8186836.html

TOLD YA SO.

Ugly men encourage cheating

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1559901/

If bad genes would put one sex off, it’d be the party that would have to carry them. Tend them. For decades. You know, the one putting money down if this is a gambling analogy.
Much better not to shack up with the uggo in the first place, which is what women have been doing (avoiding ugly men) since parental set-ups ended. Putting an end to arranged marriages is one of the most eugenic things to ever happen, second only to giving r-types the Pill and other abortfacients.

They’d be most likely to miscarry such children regardless, so a naturalistic fallacy doesn’t apply. This is a reversal of a dysgenic societal pressure with freedom of choice, not a natural pressure. There is a real-world consequence to mating (marrying) such low-quality men that used to be disposed of in endless wars: lower fitness than the parents, a biological death-knell.

There are more bachelors than ever because women aren’t forced to marry anyone who’d support them. If the woman can do it better for herself (given equal opportunities), the man is too poor quality to deserve fecundity. Men purchase rights to a woman’s reproductive decisions with marriage, that’s literally the whole premise. Monogamy had to be imposed to avoid unrest and rebellion against rulers, because it’s better for low-quality males (they actually get to breed and don’t ‘resort’ to rape – not an excuse) and worse for all females, since the natural exclusion (men used to be kicked out of the tribe at age) of the shit-tier doesn’t occur to the gene pool either they or their children and grandchildren will marry into… Naturally, the uggos in question hate this. Inferiority in humans is often connected to misogyny, despite how women are the life-giving, less violent and kinder sex (aliens would view those as objectively superior traits). Happy men don’t have to take anything out on women (displacement) because they are secure.

Narcissism and other personality disorder is always preceded by insecurity.

It reminds me of the bad husbands who complain of sexless marriages. Anyone with an ounce of empathy or life experience with women, happy couples, would laugh at such a concept, since sex in a marriage is a symptom, an outcome, a barometer. As in, they expect not to change but their marriage to improve, magically, for purely selfish reasons. Like it’s them + sex toy, no union, no greater labour required from the ‘master’ of the house. Rarely do the men in such marriages carry just their financial weight (the one entailed in the vows, also why pre-nups are anti-Christian since you swore until death you’d be responsible). Incompetent men used to be screened before they could marry, in the courtship stages interacting with the parents. Now, divorce is common because courtship has been shortened and too superficial. If they can’t be married, successfully, the marriage cannot continue. It’s a job. Rather than correcting their fellow men, to be capable husbands and fathers, they complain about women being shallow (projection). I suppose it’s the r-selected urge to appease other men and avoid real conflict, which they know women are too good to really instigate. Wife-beaters aren’t sneered at from sexism, it’s because a man hitting a woman knows it isn’t a fair fight. He knows his risk of death is almost nil. That’s cowardice.

Damaging the one human you swore to protect? Evil.

Hypocrisy doesn’t work long-term. Only an anti-honour culture like ours would think this.

You don’t deserve shit. Like, does a fat SJW deserve a 6ft model with a 6-pack because she got bullied for years? Exactly, it’s shit, you know it’s bullshit, sit down and stop.

You cannot be entitled to a human. They’re autonomous. An atheist cannot expect a Christian. A slut cannot expect a virgin. You get your level. That’s the red pill – you deserve what you get.

So technically, unequal pairings encourage cheating. Common sense?

Video: Virgin before marriage or not?

Literally the best video I’ve ever seen on this topic.

Pair bonding is chemical and sex-based.

That glue is meant to be for marriage and pair bonding is impaired in both sexes.

The haters will be jealous you aren’t rushing to the divorce courts.

Cheating risk is lower too.

It’s all around better.

I disagree with the idea that she isn’t superior. Morally, she is superior. She demonstrated the virtue of chastity, that makes her superior. She just doesn’t use it as an excuse to treat normal people like dirt, which is arrogance.

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