No morality, no empathy = psychopathy.
The concept of sin is necessary.
If nobody is wrong, everybody is wrong.
No morality, no empathy = psychopathy.
The concept of sin is necessary.
If nobody is wrong, everybody is wrong.
“Part of being a man, is having a woman. A Woman, if you can’t do that, you are failing at manhood.”
The opposite sex isn’t the enemy, you need them.
Those groups are narcissistic overall, too selfish to be in a relationship with anyone!
They hate people who are happy because it reminds them how miserable they are, that’s why they misuse cuck. A cuck is a man who married a tart and tries to pass her off as better. A cuck can also be a woman whose husband has been the town bike and keeps cheating on her.
Nobody cares if you actually want to be alone. It isn’t a great loss to the world.
But it’s like the woman who ignores you, you don’t notice and then she comes up to you and tells you she’s ignoring you.
Bitchy female tactics don’t work on females.
I don’t want to screw the Mean Girl.
The men who blame women, well, if it’s natural, it’s always been true. In which case, you just hate women. If it’s their choice, why do you want them? Why do you choose to reward them with attention?
Men complaining about women doing the same things they do, is like old people complaining the young men aren’t respectful. It’s always happened. Every time thought this. It’s in various ancient texts.
This time period isn’t that special and neither is any individual. Sitting around passively is ying, it’s what women do. An effete man is like a little boy. They might want to help you but it won’t be an even power dynamic, it won’t be respect, it won’t be attraction. It’s cleaning up your mess. If your life is a mess, clean it up. At least try? Even your own mother wouldn’t be expected to run around after you as a grown man.
The worst MGTOW just want a Mommy figure they can screw… Freudian issues attract nobody normal.
Sometimes they over-estimate their attractiveness (refuse to date their level) – that isn’t Incel. That’s a choice.
Improve yourself and stop obsessing over porn, it isn’t real.
I saw one guy moan about how a girlfriend cheated on him. I pointed out no, she didn’t. He didn’t want her, he hadn’t married her, she owed him nothing. The offer of monogamy and exclusivity and loyalty comes from the man first. He rejected her first. He…didn’t take it so well. He didn’t have a rebuttal but he insisted I was mean to look at it so coldly. …If I walked into a shop and said Where’s my order? and I didn’t place an order, I’d look like a prize fool.
Cheating is a legal term. What did she cheat on, exactly? Empty words? Not even a verbal proposal.
These guys act like a girl committed adultery (Biblical sin)… you weren’t married? WTF?
And if there was fornication, you can’t slap her with the Bible, without hitting yourself too.
Your degeneracy has no right to be respected. You knew it was going nowhere.
Do you really owe a repeat one-night-stand an explanation?
“I’m happy!” the bitter middle-aged men posting on youtube comment sections tell us.
Then why are you here, telling us?
It’s like vegans who make their diet their life.
Not doing something is the focus of a loser.
What is likelier is “I can’t attract what I want but rather than accept my level, I’m going to ragequit dating”.
SJWs do that too, the drama would be perfect narc supply for both of you.
Don’t marry the sluts, m/f, how can that possibly end well?
They have player burnout, that’s the term they use. They’re used-up husks of their former self, they wouldn’t want themselves (sexes reversed) years before. Sexual satisfaction for men suffers with every woman they bed, they make themselves inferior husband material. There’s so much to compare with that by the time they burn out of the pussy parade (it isn’t a choice, it’s aging), they expect some obedient sex slave of a wife to rub their feet.
Their ancestors would spit on them, it’s so denigrating to expect that servile attitude to a spouse, one of the most beautiful connections in life.
They were a sucker. They bought the societal lie they needed to run up debt on clubbing and sex was the ultimate human experience. You’re a casualty of the Sexual Revolution, boys. Grow up and admit it? It’s love, without love, mankind has nothing worth living for and you couldn’t convince a child otherwise.
But…. they’re ignoring us, and we should care.
You attract what you are. If you always attract flies, you’re probably full of shit.
I DONT NEED A WOMAN, IM A STRONG INDEPENDANT MALE!
as an ex-church ex-pentecostal MGTOW who has heard all the chuch BS hearing you quote the bible just makes me mentally switch you off
I wonder why that angry one’s single.
Low IQ men are easy to spot.
Wait, there’s more!
He goes on
The psychopaths in the pentecostal churches just want to force men to do the right thing and marry the stupid nasty devious fem in the pews. I decided I was not going to do that when I was fifteen.
Yes, decisions made age fifteen are famed for their deep wisdom.
How can a woman be both stupid and devious?
If the thug so-called pastors want to talk to me they risk being reported to the police for stalking and harassment. I would love to put some of them behind bars. And your assumptions about what women all the MGTOW want is ignortant, retarded, complacent, and counter-productive.
Pass this little baby a dummy.
You clicked on it, bitch. It’s like a vegan on a BBQ video. What is your life?
I’m 30…oil field worker …near six figure salary…I’m mgtow all the way and loving every minute of it. Go ahead and man Shame me..it’s music to my ears
I wonder if he wants attention….
We don’t care how much money you have if you’re too stupid to realize life is a marathon and not a sprint.
How old is the oldest MGTOW? Because
I’d have questions.
I would post a tiny picture of a noose hanging from the end of the red line but it would be tacky and I assume you know the statistics on bachelor suicide. When they bitch about male suicide, they never bring up marital status.
Married men are happier, live longer and don’t kill themselves.
Yes, women are poison.
Remember his point about taking responsibility as the #1 masculine drive?
MGTOW is not the flip side of feminism, that would be the Incels. MGTOW are men who recognize the dangers and injustices men face in in our gynocentric/feminist society, and act accordingly to protect themselves. I would argue that most MGTOW would love to have long term relationships and a family, and are more than capable of achieving those things, but the risk is simply too great these days. Don’t blame men for going MGTOW, blame the system for forcing them into this position.
Low IQ, what ya gonna do?
“Social Justice is not the flipside of MGTOW, Social Justice are the women who recognize the dangers and injustices women face in our patriarchal society and act accordingly, to protect themselves. I would argue that most of us would love to have long term cohabitation in sin and deliberately become a single (unmarried) parent and are more than capable of that achievement but the risk of abuse is simply too great these days. Don’t blame women, blame the courts for not believing female victims.”
Let’s be logical for five minutes, it might hurt.
You want more women to have children, yes?
You want more mothers. But you don’t want wives.
What makes a single mother single, is that the father didn’t marry her.
He won’t propose. By supporting this, you’re supporting the deliberate creation of more single mothers. For which, the taxpayer is responsible.
We won’t cuck for your sperm farm, hunty.
MGTOW saves lives.
Did not… do…. the research.
He goes on
” It’s not about realizing how modern laws and media and society brainwash women to be crazy and drunk with power.”
He would deny being a misogynist. Women can’t be sane but he doesn’t hate us.
Watch the r-type try to force you to qualify to him like any kind of moral authority.
If you show me
We can show you a noose?
Statistically, you’ll need it for when you either top yourself or start kidnapping schoolgirls.
a virtuous woman
says the degenerate
will be loyal and honest and love me, personally, I
would gladly have some kind of marriage vows, absent of state authority ruining the whole thing.
What’s wrong with protecting women from abusive husbands?
Or men from wives?
It’s called a commitment, not a half-arsed certificate.
It isn’t like buying a dairy cow.
They’re treating women like an arcade toy. “If you find me this thing, give me this object”. It seems to be autists angry that women don’t want to put up with their mental condition and don’t have to. There are pages going into this abuse from Aspergers husbands, they’re like sociopaths.
And if you are picking on incels, that’s just punching down.
Guys who laugh at rape all over the place and fantasize about young girls?
Yes, we’re bullying them, guys.
Note the gaslighting. Great catch.
I understand the way you see it
See, he’s a man so they can’t insult his intelligence or appearance.
~entitled shrieking from the MGTOW~
Congratulations, the SJWs win for every man that no longer wants a family because he’s scared of women. Fewer husbands, wives and kids, they win.
They want the Gender War, don’t give them it.
and grew up with better moral standards, but today it is very easy to be incel. Just be a nerd that is shy.
People who want to be manwhores but can’t… merit anything but contempt?
I got married young.Age 20. Wife ran off with a doctor soon after. Didnt see it coming.There were no warning signs.They like that money and material things.
Married too young. Moron.
Marry 24+, divorce rate drops for both.
Ah, but they want barely legal flesh, don’t they?
Another! It’s like spot the vegan!
MGTOW don’t diss other guys for dating,
have you read this comment section?
so why do people have to bad mouth us?
They’re actually worse than the SJWs.
The SJWs know they’re ill and take meds. These guys try to convince the whole world it’s crazy and they’re (tic) fine.
It’s a personal choice based on one’s own unique experience.
Using the same lines over and over?
And what experience? You believed a lonely sad blogger’s tale of woe and decided to ruin your life based on works of fiction (or adventures in Asian race-mixing, when they turn out to have been faking the obedient routine and we’re shocked, I say, shocked!).
Most of us just want to be left alone and have no drama. We don’t go around crapping on non MGTOWs.
They don’t even see how stupid they look
Shaming language against men. Sad. I hoped for better.
What’s your excuse? Are you on your period too?
Men can never be wrong. Shame should be illegal. It’s okay to cry as Barney said because words hurt.
I love those comments in particular (they copy and paste) because they are shaming themselves?
Nobody is allowed to disapprove.
TRANSLATION: F-U-MOM! IT’S YOUR FAULT DAD ABANDONED ME!
looking for the wrong kind of women eh?
well the right kind are like 1% of girls aka the equivalent of a unicorn
He knows unicorns don’t exist, right?
Good, don’t look for us, never look for us, you aren’t the 1% of men. It is pointless.
This is never, ever brought up. Hundreds of times I read that because the low IQ aren’t original, not once. What is the male unicorn worthy of such a woman?
You don’t get it. Do some more research on it.
Blogs don’t count.
And the “research” I’ve seen on their sites is wrong, twisted or made up.
Literally, they say something very opinionated with no study. Because the studies say the opposite.
He goes on
I don’t agree with all of MGTOW ideologies
but they have alot of strong arguments to their physiology. I don’t expect anyone from another generation to understand. You haven’t dated in 33yrs. Time has changed. MGTOW voice is getting louder each yr
tfw to intelligent
A man claiming to be elderly also joins in, but to sound like a 23yo as if his wife were in that age group.
I don’t believe you.
and I agree with what your saying… separated at 47, divorced 2 years later,
3rd wave feminists are a cancer on marriage, and after 17 years looking, in coffee shops, church, office, and dating sites, I’ve given up and gone MGTOW…
You aren’t good enough, the one woman was a fluke.
Did you…. try self-improving? Lowering your standards? …Like the pastor said?
Who wants a 47yo divorced guy? And now he’s 70 and more sour? Sign me up.
It’s like corked wine if we’re keeping that metaphor, the toxic one that’ll make you sick.
I don’t hate women, but I can’t say that good women are laying around like Rubies on the ground, waiting to be picked up…
I wanna leave you and all I did was read this comment.
I picture these guys in the old folks home, still determined they didn’t waste their one (atheists) life being bitter ragequitters. It’ll never stop being funny.
This one doesn’t understand words
So true, it is easy for a man that has been married for over 30 years to make assumptions, heck, even 10 years for that matter. These guys should try to remember the old adage “do not judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes”.
Being bitter and alone isn’t an experience.
Most MGTOWS do not hate women. It is a natural response to the Jezebel spirit that most women are possessed by today and the State’s desire to make slaves of men through the divorce/family courts. Until the states get it through their heads that what they are doing to men is a crime
Upholding the law. STFU.
I’m embarrassed for you.
At least the SJWs rally together and go on marches, not one from men!
So most men agree with the system!
there are going to be a lot of crazy women running around and less children.
Fathered by people like you, excellent. That is eugenic.
It is necessary. This country USA has sinned against God and especially men and the day of reckoning has come. We’ll see how powerful our country remains when men decide to no longer participate and be made slaves.
America has never been a powerful country, you can’t even invent your own language.
You’re still a slave to Uncle Sam with your taxes.
Destroying your nation because you can’t get a woman is total, ultimate omega move.
If I had not gotten married I would have had a lot less heartache and been much happier I know
and more money in my pockets
I don’t think he knows what a marital union is or the male gender role.
The male gender role is to provide, if you won’t you aren’t a man and shouldn’t have taken on the duties.
Your bad decisions had bad consequences. Were you threatened with death to marry? no
instead of lawyers and Jezebel stealing from me. I was married 16 years and tried to do it all the Christian way.
Nothing about this guy is Christian, he sounds consumed with greed, envy, wrath and pride.
The Jezebel spirit isn’t exclusive to women…. demons prefer men?
Stay single men in this backwards generation.
I regret that post. It was clearly a joke because more sexual predators and psychopaths are men and some borderlines are men too but… obviously they missed it.
You’re an atheist cultural death cult, you don’t really believe in this stuff.
A guy with a Muslim sounding name complains
Having a woman these days is like letting a robber into the bank vault or an abusive priest near some children.
Totally balanced healthy adult.
One voice of sanity
Why do people feel they need to fit into a label and words for group to be in?
Because they’re little kids and need a clique.
Peter Pan and the Lost Boys.
A guy with a pathetic name says
You have an incredible disconnect with reality.
Projection, I love it.
Its 2018 and they’re still using the “man up” argument to deflect your attention from observable reality.
i T’ S t H E c U R R e n t Y e a R
Be a man. Grow up.
Get married. Breed.
Not the same thing. Low IQ QED.
You know who love Pajama Boys and hate the term “man up”?
Male feminists. Go join your people.
They tell happy men their wife is a whore and manage not to be shot between the eyes.
They should be grateful.
What’s this? More shaming language against MGTOW and now trying to equate them with incels? Nice try. Go ahead, shame away. I just don’t care.
Responsibility without authority is slavery. You are telling men to become slaves.
No, it’s called being a grown up and paying your dues?
Prissy little nancies.
“Why do I have to move out if I can’t get a mansion!”
Join a Marxist group.
Several times in my life I have had a woman I trusted burn everything to the ground and leave me with nothing because I wasn’t perfect.
Yeah, that was why.
Can’t be that you’re a whiny little kid in a man’s body?
But thanks to women having the vote, they have social policies to support them, they don’t need the men
Vox Day is married, he’s trolling you on The Vote.
If women lost the vote you’d have to go down the mines. National debt won’t pay itself. Men would be on the hook for 100% of everything. And you think that’s better for you? Do you know what percentages are?
“Be a man!” That’s a lot of shaming language.
Tone police. Are you gonna tell him off for swearing too, matron?
Shame is an emotion you feel and should feel.
it’s called a C O N S C I E N C E
If someone said “Be a woman”, I’d be confused because I already am?
It’s cute they think they never have to stop acting like a modern spoiled teenage boy.
I don’t have a problem with woman, I have a problem with the government, and their willingness to help woman destroy men.
Most politicians are male.
I don’t want to live at the mercy of a woman’s whim’s.
Did you select a woman and propose to her?
You can say all you want about “good woman”, all it takes is one bad day and you’re future is out the door.
Yes, that’s how it works.
Because this is the best Joker comic
They’re actually just trying to be a jerk …to another man, the way they would a woman. That is unhinged. They can’t argue, that’s a serious personal flaw.
If I replaced women with men, they’d call it sexist. They’re just like the SJWs.
Nobody gives you rights, they’re NATURAL RIGHTS.
Universal suffrage was a correction of outdated pre-industrial law based on taxation. Read a real book.
To shut women (and poor men) up about various war protests over a century using their tax money, they got the Vote, whether they preferred the untaxed cash or not. Then WW1 and 2 happened.
The bad career choice one is funny. Whatever you do, they hate you. Now they’re turning onto other men, good men, better men, men of achievement and happiness. For trying to help them.
You state MGTOW is not good for men. True. What’s far worse is being used and abused by women and the legal system
If the only abuse you suffer in marriage is legal and in divorce, you are lucky.
“Divorce is ha-ard!” they whine.
Divorce isn’t meant to be nice. Ending No-fault divorce would cause more cases to go against men because many are filed for cheating. Fine, I’d be happy to finish no fault – because someone is always at fault.. but it gives men an unearned boost. They are so short-sighted, it’s almost sweet.
This last one confuses criminals for normal men
There’s a lot of truth in a lot of these comments. I divorced in ’05 after 7 years of marriage. But what really showed me was 2008-2009. There was about 10 highly successful men I knew at the time that lost their businesses. All ended up in divorce. All these men lost everything. They lost their families, kids, homes, etc because the women couldn’t take losing their financial security. “For richer or poorer” only applies to men it seems.
Provider not thief.
You don’t just lose businesses like the TV remote. You gamble. You lie. You steal and cheat.
Anyone would leave knowing he’s probably now in massive debt and will harm the children (school fees?) by staying yoked. Men have one job – finances. Be good with the family finances. You want your gender role, you can keep your gender role.
You cannot complain about your gender role.
For richer, for poorer doesn’t cover – lying and deceiving and going into debt on your joint credit (hers too!) so he could make a quick buck and lie to her about how he got it. That has a name and it’s called fraud. Those women were betrayed. Imagine if she had a secret shopping addiction and while thinking before he had $2 million, and planning his life around that, he was actually $780,000 in debt. That is disgraceful. Divorces used to occur all the time because the husband was lazy, a drunk, abusive, cheating and humiliating her or a criminal. Read up. Marriage isn’t an enclosed pen where you can now treat them like dirt and the law fails to apply.
Since this topic is popping up again, I’ll indulge you a piece of new research.
The cost of being an ugly man?
The thing you won’t be after reading this.
Remember, if you’re offended, that must mean you’re ugly.
“My students often interpret this result as saying that women really care about money, but that is not what it says at all— $186,000 is a huge difference in income. If women didn’t care about looks and only cared about money, the figure would be much, much lower. This says that despite the impression that on the marriage market women really care about income, the evidence suggest that they also care about looks. They just care about income too.”
They care about not starving in the street after being abandoned. The fact it’s common this abandonment happens in our time is a bountiful supply of evidence that the fear is just.
Sample bias in the gold diggers versus everyone else. The pool wanting looks is all, the pool willing to overlook Darwinian fitness (good genes, high IQ correlates to good looks) for cash is a minority, and would that minority be faithful? Look at adultery stats, no. So really they do get both, just by lying about the looks thing to secure cash first. Most women are too honest to cheat, so they go right for the looks as long as he’s stable and sane.
Sex should not be confused with breeding. Marrying someone doesn’t mean breeding with them nowadays, in the era of the starter marriage. If they ask non-gold diggers about who they would breed with, in either sex, the number would soar because it’s critical to your baby’s health that they possess good genes.
Which sex invests more metabolically, again?
Ignore the lookism at your peril. Women naturally gravitate toward better-looking men (better genetic fitness) during times of hardship, for multi-layered protection. You want women to give you a chance? Fix the economy.
The manopshere won’t tell you things like this (and without twisting the findings) because they want shekels more than your wellbeing.
Who care so much about people they want cheaper iPhones at the expense of slavery and the environment that IKEA isn’t forced to disclose its logging sources but a less than fully organic egg is a crisis.
You could come up with a list of these.
Food labelling for vegans but not religions?
Regulation for these, but not for me.
No prior generation was so weak as to identify with companies, that’s some impressive advertising. Companies are people, they stand for more values. And they’re tricking the consumer into doing their own manual labour. Brilliant. No other generation in history was that thick. Imagine being sold poor-quality vegetables and being told to make your own soup, but they’re charging you for soup and you claim to receive Souppe. It’s hilarious.
They’re over-charging people to pay for their own DIY with shoddy materials.
On another note, can you think of anything more white supremacist than IKEA? It’s not just white, it’s 101% Nordic. Let’s see if the meme works. Technically, you can custom anything you self-build and there’s nothing they can do about it.
It looks so wrong but feels so right. LMAO. Perhaps in a similar shade range.
I’ll admit, I didn’t expect that to fit as well as it did. Confirmed, IKEA is Nazi.
Nazi chic isn’t a joke but this post is.
Snobs can’t judge the content of character to a person, so they must rest on the superficial, the signalled.
All status signallers are snobs.
Snobs are phony intellectuals.
They can’t discern quality, they lack those traits. They judge wealth, and other trappings of reward. They trust a third party opinion (judges, experts, authorities) more than their own and model like a child, from these. It’s mainstream, it’s safe, it’s very Goldilocks to have someone to look down on and someone else to suck up to.
They cannot discriminate quality, so they sneer at ‘discrimination’.
The Middle Class, who think good blood doesn’t matter, because they have none. The new snob, a rejection of blood and acceptance of any identity pretense, however flimsy. They cannot step out from their herd, they cannot be individual and they cannot be creative. They live in permanent fear of rejection. They seek to compete by spotting the creative, but this descended into shock-value politics, an artistic game of chicken. They are the Emperor of no clothes and have nothing. Most are in debt to look rich. They bought no opportunities and a heap of depression and anxieties. If their inheritance legally relied upon legitimacy, they’d quickly care about blood all of a sudden.
The Ikea caste.
The guy drawing attention to his Rolex and bragging about its mechanism doesn’t deserve to be wearing one. He doesn’t realize his target is the people who already know.
You could read those findings in reverse.
Regardless of the type of relationship sought, women had approximately the same majority memory for appearance.
The women in the fling group were correct about the man’s appearance 75% of the time, whilst women in the long-term group were right 70% of the time.
And didn’t really care what he thought or said.
The groups of women also differed in their memory for the man’s verbal statements. This time the tables were turned: women in the fling group scored on average of 64%, a score 4% lower than women in the long-term group.
So, when women are sizing a man up for a long-term relationship, they seem to pay more attention to his verbal statements. And when women are instead considering a chap for a one night stand, they memorize more facts about his appearance.
Hardly good news for PUA scripts.
Let’s see if you can decipher this.
So, how good were the women’s memories?
On average, the women correctly answered 73% of the questions about the man’s appearance, but only 66% of the questions about what he had said.
Physical attractiveness is just that, physical. Appearance was the thing most women remembered most. It isn’t based on additional information as is usually argued (status markers for example), which need not be provided to remember or add to what he looks like (a few seconds of observation).
Aka women are also shallow. Which means men don’t have a monopoly on the trait.
This difference is probably down to the fact that the man’s appearance was on screen for the whole three minutes, so women had more time to take in information about appearance than each of his verbal statements.
Probably – male writer, trying to keep the women special ideal.
In spite of the data pointing toward a clear, marked preference for raw physical attractiveness over anything else, it’s almost like he’s got the blinkers on.
lalalalala women aren’t shallow!
Women have eyes.
Longer explanations: https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/women-care-about-looks-stop-deluding-yourselves-guys/
We care AS MUCH, sometimes more. The manosphere needs to get over itself on this one. Everytime I hear a man bitch that women don’t care about looks online, you can tell he’s an ugly motherfucker. It’s like a feminist whining about attention paid to pretty girls, it’s pathetic. Stop. Is/Ought.
Sperm = cheap
Eggs = expensive
Sex = valuable to men, women? Not so much. The one who cares less holds the power, right?
You’re swallowing what your grandmother told you – “looks don’t matter” (to women) and passing it off as your original belief because it serves your ego in sheltering you from the reality. It’s in the same category as JBY (Just Be Yourself) for advice that requires a disclaimer about a book long and a series of asterisks listing exceptions longer than the Game of Thrones book series. If random people keep pulling this weird, twisty lip face when you discuss dating, you’re probably ugly.
Don’t take my word for it, do the damn work and find out your number: https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/an-easy-way-for-men-to-find-their-10-scale-value/ You’ve got a range of 1-2 based on external factors and the desperation of the prettier party.
This doesn’t make us women shallow anymore than not fancying landwhales makes you shallow. It’s nature. Everyone fancies attractive people. It’s evolution, it’s health, and it’s about the health of potential offspring.
Even when it comes down to the r-types, we have the Sexy Sons hypothesis. This overwhelmingly strong female attraction to appearance might dictate the bulk of their psychology, it’s that powerful. The stated exception is gold diggers, because plastic surgery is expensive and they’re rarely natural lookers themselves. The money overwhelms their disgust reflex and they’ve usually been around the block before settling.
Why do you believe women are special snowflakes when it comes to options? It’s ridiculous. Given two equally appealing choices, everybody, male female or alien would go for the more physically attractive. This was often swept under the rug because women had little historical say in mate selection (the betas and lower are the ones bitching about this now for that reason, they lost their power) and arranged marriages, complete with veil, meant if they knew they had a negative opinion of their husband-to-be, she had neither time nor purpose to point it out. It wasn’t as if women were expected to enjoy sex, was it? The woman’s sexual desire wasn’t a factor in the historical equation, so very little was written about it. Then courting came around, then dating and now hookup culture, where it’s plain to see if you pay attention. Look at any male model’s instagram account. Same as a woman’s, isn’t it?
Of course people care about looks when it comes to the opposite sex, that’s the difference between friends and more – do you find them physically attractive? It’s almost like boys in the manosphere haven’t heard the two ladders metaphor. This defines a big difference between male and female attraction mechanisms. If a woman fancies you, you’re on the prospect ladder. If she finds you ugly (that’s the brutal truth, it’s yay or nay) – you’re on the friend ladder. You ain’t never getting off, and the Friendzone is such a big deal online, because the boys in question refuse to believe women have eyes.
And dare to exercise a personal choice in whom to date.
You’re probably average, no shame in it, get over it. What do you think the Brad Pitt rule is about? Do you honestly think that guy needs a single bit of Game to have women interested in him? Pre-fame and money? Christian Bale met his wife when he was dirt poor and she traveled round with him. Any guesses why, children? [Clue: everybody has a personality, that doesn’t count as an answer.]
The starving artists stereotype is always drop-dead gorgeous. As is the hot nerd. And the hot librarian. And the hot businessman. And the hot gamer. It isn’t the context/skill/status that makes them hot, but adds to pre-existing hotness. And all pure stereotypes that appeal to women sexually, are already 10s….
Gee, I guess that’s a MASSIVE coincidence…
You can’t convince women to be turned on by losers (genetic or otherwise), neither can feminists or SJW freaks. Attraction isn’t a negotiation. I’m saying this to help you. Women didn’t lie, your mother probably lied but she has vested self-interests, it’s usually the media who lied to you. The world has always been this way. Prince Charming isn’t the Hunchback, he’s a physical specimen of 10 like the Princess. The Beast turned into a hottie at the end to match his fiancee. Look at all romance plots written by women, the guy is never ugly.
Of course women are shallow, when it comes to dating, that’s all it is – being really, really shallow. Until you meet someone’s mutual standard of shallowness. One of the few totally valid PUA criticisms – they look at their actions, including external factors like income, and never pause to consider their physical league. If women seem to have a “bitch shield” around you, and you aren’t being rude, you’re probably swimming in the wrong gene pool. People with status abhor being approached by the SMV/MMV equivalent of peasants. This goes for men too, don’t start on a misogynistic rant about how all women are bitches and blaming them for your problems. If you were unemployed and walked up to random successful men in swish suits in coffee shops and in the street, they’d be disgusted too. You gotta have something to offer those people and bring to the table. What’s relevant in business? Contacts, contracts, money, skills. What’s relevant in dating? Looks, looks, looks, and a wildcard, like maybe you have a sense of humour like most people on the planet. You know that thing where everyone laughs at the hot girl’s non-jokes? It’s cos you don’t really see past the packaging, isn’t it? Women online are upfront about this, who they crush on and who’s the hottest out of XYZ options and men have the temerity to call us superficial…. nah, not gonna cut it, men discuss passing women in the street with the same lack of respect and when men have topless calenders and read lad’s mags at work, inappropriate doesn’t cut it either. We’re all adults here, opinions are okay. Alpha/quality males are serene about this and acknowledge quality women have options too and the non-quality proles of both sexes will daydream (few are foolish enough to try and play out of their league).
If you dare try and pull that feminist shit like “we don’t like being judged, it hurts our feelings” – erm, how do you think we feel, being literally marked on a scale when we walk down the street, like produce? Which sex is more sexualised in the media? Again, grow up. Adults judge things all the time and it’s a good thing. If you fall short, that’s your personal issue, not the people judging you and finding you wanting. You didn’t bring it to the table. You weren’t tall enough for this ride, whatever. Offer rejected. Nothing personal. You’d be a glad of a “bitch shield” if it was your wife maintaining it, in fact, you’d rely on it. That’s what really gets us – you expect us to make an exception for you and turn around and complain about special snowflakes. Does that make your hypothetical wife a bitch? Nope, she’s a quality woman who doesn’t fall for that casual nonsense we call pick-up, you’re just crybabies that spitting certain lines isn’t like a cheat code for sex with any random woman.
Short-term, who cares, get rejected thousands of times for all it matters. I don’t speak to those guys who wanna die alone because it fulfills some mythic complex about Eve and the wicked temptation of women.
For long-term, you need to redpill and look at the data. Assortative mating. People end up (most of the time don’t anecdote me) with someone of similar attractiveness to themselves. Not higher. Not lower. Similar. This way, neither party feels like they’re losing out on the deal of the relationship, getting the wedding is the easy part, maintaining the marriage requires effort on both sides. Sure, she loses post-pregnancy weight for you, but you can’t get a beer belly and wonder why she keeps getting headaches. It’s an exchange, no woman will ever be your mother (a mother figure you wanna fuck, creep alert!) unless she’s a co-dependent drip you don’t respect or trust. Long-term it’s an exchange of genetic material, the most serious decision you’ll ever make, an Eloi with a Morlock is poorly matched and won’t stick around for long and no, celebrities aren’t a rule or proof for anything in the real world.
Nothing wrong with being average, it isn’t your spiritual worth as a person, but it is your real SMV and likely highly correlates to your MMV, male or female, gay, straight, bi or whatever. Better happily matched, once your ego is over the shock, than #foreveralone because you had the male equivalent of Cinderella syndrome. Notches aren’t alpha, that’s a lie from PUAs trying to sell their book/site/method by spinning out notch numbers (not accounting for quality), your life isn’t a video game where you score for your score and if you’re top of the leaderboard you’re Mostest Alpha Man; it’s getting the Best woman in a social circle (the socio- in sociosexual hierarchy) and keeping her is what an alpha male does.