“Women used to be ladies”

The latest meme making an irritating entrance into popular thought.

TLDR; read bolded.

It’s intended to insult clubbing culture (fine, ban clubs, otherwise, STFU about them).

Like most memes appealing to history, it’s misled at best, misleading at worst.

Rewind to the earliest times with video.
Ladies have fun too. Anything less is an overhanging lie from the Sexual Revolution.

“Yes but women used to be demure and coy, they didn’t dress and act like sluts.”

It is ironic the modern man has such a lax definition, as if looking at a man ‘the wrong way’ is slutty.

Women have always ‘made eyes’ at men, because we have eyes. When we use them, we’re accused of making eyes because studies show men are acutely sensitive to social overtures from women.


Maybe, just maybe, the nature of people doesn’t change much over time, and not everything is about you and how hard done-by you are? The term for that is a victim complex.
Look up the Evelyn Nesbit scandal, it was their OJ.
They even had versions of the Kardashians, pin-up girls before pin-ups, which really date back to the 18th century and painted adverts. If you believe any advert, it’s a de-facto IQ test and you lost.


Maybe read some social history before acting like you understand all women?

Especially those in other time periods.

^If that were true, you’d be a billionaire selling us bullshit. Advertising people understand people.

Funnily enough, women tend to be up on social history, so I find a meme that relies on our collective ignorance of it rather entertaining. The average woman knows as much social history trivia as a man knows military.

In perfect truth, such males want to castigate degeneracy without drawing attention to their own.

Let alone limiting it. R-types playing K.

This is intellectually dishonest, an argument based on bad rhetoric, bad faith, historical ignorance and makes for a coward. If you’re irritated that, in a world where sex is freer than ever, you still cannot get laid, perhaps the problem is not the people you fail to impress?

Maybe the problem is that you keep bitching like a gay guy.

Don’t look at a pretty woman and think the modern version of ‘ANKLE?!!!!‘ only to wonder why you’re labelled a creep and become a social leper. Offended people on this stuff are dull from birth.

Look and think ‘that’s nice’ and move on with your day because this superficial shit is not, by definition, important.

The women least likely to wear a miniskirt are prostitutes, because the goods are not given away for free.

Everything you know is wrong.

Ask a man with sisters if he judges their sexual desperation on what they wear.

Imagine if we applied the same judgementalism to men – all short-sleeve shirts are hereby signs of a gigolo. Shorts? Whore! Wear trousers like a proper man!

Only in the 20th century did it suddenly become acceptable (imho, no) for an adult man to wear shorts. It was considered ridiculous and you’d be mocked for it like turning up to a funeral in assless chaps, as was going topless until coal-miners striked because of job demands. This is the God’s honest truth. Look it all up. Shorts are literally the most immodest thing a man can wear, the male mini-skirt. It’s worse than a mini-skirt because things can play peek-a-boo. Short sleeves come in a close second and were taken up by the Italians with the sleeveless ‘wife-beater’ where they both should have been left, men couldn’t show their waistcoat at the beginning of the 20th Century.

Casual or modest, pick ONE.

I heard this meme from Clarey on YT years ago – he immediately began to criticize every modest fashion going, with an emphasis of vitriol for the maxi skirt. …That’s just a skirt. It’s a term for a proper skirt.

This stuck in my mind because I assumed it was a joke and waited for the punchline, the hypocrisy was so overt to a non-American. You have no idea what you want, but you know how much you want it!

He hated totally normal skirt lengths, pictured in the Edwardian videos, because it covered women up and he couldn’t ogle them, no more than five seconds after saying, to paraphrase- Why don’t women dress like ladies anymore?

The problem is male demand.

Male demand for risque fashions. Rappers are the main problem.

You can see how years of this from Kindergarten can make for avoidance of anyone who tries to pull it.

You can’t countersignal if nobody values your opinion to begin with. Look through the photos of the men saying these things and you’ll quickly realize they attract casual women because they are casual men. I haven’t seen a single one that owns a single (ONE) good suit. A good suit, by style standards and formality rules. Not a great suit, not an impressive suit, not an elegant suit, not a gentleman’s suit. A single decent item.

Which brings me to my next point: how do you intend to pay for that?

More fabric, more $$$$$. That is not a typo. A suitable wardrobe is 4-figures, a good one is five. This is based on wear and variety for activities. Being formal is more expensive, rappers lie.

Look at the guys making these claims about ladies. Are they gents?

Any woman looking at these guys will immediately notice the discrepancy, it’s like…

Which fork, Forney?

They have no clue of basic etiquette and try to prattle on like a stage mother.
They are alcoholics who couldn’t tell you the difference between a white wine and red wine goblet if their lives depended on it.

Nobody takes this ‘advice’ seriously. They have nothing to offer but opinion and personal complaint.

The funniest thing my society friends ever heard about women’s fashion was one drab man telling, loudly, anyone who would listen, that spaghetti straps were the sign of a slut.

This story still does the rounds and I’ve heard people quoting it without getting the joke.
Guess the nationality. Go on, guess. I think we all know.
Guess what he was wearing with his bad tan and fake Rolex he kept showing to people who could tell the difference.

These are the guys who refuse to buy a drink to assert interest (formal politeness) or buy a dinner they invited their intended to (the formal rule) but they want a woman with expensive taste?

Are you quite sure?

They slob around in t-shirts and shorts, in general, and wonder why the women draped in £3,000 Dolce don’t give them a second look. Class does come into it. The problem is, they have none.

Therefore, they refuse to see it as an issue…. because it IS the issue.

Women do not qualify to men. Eggs are expensive.

However, not looking like ‘Kevin the teenager’ helps.

Would you show up for a job interview wearing this? Are you using it for a sport? If the answer to both is NO, do NOT wear it out of the house and for the love of Christ get a good suit before you start spouting off on Patriarchy and the dire need of male leadership.

You don’t care how you look? Yes, it shows.

Hate sluttiness? Push to ban all contraception and sexual health clinics. Yes, all.

Hate immodest clothing? Push for Elizabethan clothing laws. Yes, in social history, there are many, many actual, literal laws that restricted things like length for modesty, and most women are aware of these. It would also mean strippers are illegal and you can’t pretend to be rich in clubs without actually being rich.

I don’t expect these guys to grow the balls, ..do you?

Conformity is a feminine virtue, as I mentioned earlier, so don’t blame all women for the actions or obscenity of singular examples, otherwise, all men are like Jack the Ripper; non sequiturs about men would be far more insulting.

Why aren’t women virtuous, they ask, not a virgin themselves.

Because none of the previous words will get through to ‘these’ people.

We mock idiots like you.

Comic: The hypocrisy of men

hypocrisyofmen

So many places I could go with this one, I’ll just leave it, for posterity. [see signalling right]

Because it’s completely moral to select a wife that’s had more dick than ancient whores*, while insisting other men only settle for The Best, but don’t dare bring up what you literally did.

*or Mata Hari

*or Maya Angelou (yes, a hooker)

Why can’t slutty men find non-slutty wives?

It’s the big question, isn’t it?

Manwhores complaining about not finding a ‘good’ wife after admitting/bragging they can’t keep it in their pants?

teadrinking sipping pretentious sarcastic bitch mmhmm not my problem lol

World’s biggest mystery.

You should totally start a male supremacy cult based on it. That’ll get all the babes.

You deserve a good woman, right? Hey, when you went psycho manipulator on those other women, it was funny! It wasn’t abuse! Take a joke! You’ll brag forever about how many women you ruined and wonder why only the broken ones are attracted to that.

Yes, it’s all pesky woman’s fault.

Thanks to birth control, today’s degenerates are tomorrow’s genetic suicides.

For the rest of us, there’s matched pairs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assortative_mating#In_humans

Outside of physical appearance, assortative mating in humans occurs over a wide array of traits. These include socio-economic status, educational level, various attitudes (religious, political, racial and ethnic), personality, psychological traits and mental disorders…

If only the ugly sluts are attracted to you… guess what.

joker DC smile smirk evil grin lol haha

Have it All is a lie you purchased instead of long-term happiness. Now you’re a bachelor, the male spinster. You wanted a reputation, it’s a beacon, a loud and clear signal for one type to come and another to run away. Maybe your red pill should be a cyanide cap.

inspired by

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2015/12/28/are-you-new-to-the-manosphere/

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2016/12/28/is-game-or-pick-up-a-con/

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/r-types-want-r-types/

Provision requires fidelity. You fail as a man. You lose. Good day, Sir.

Lock/key is a poor analogy

It doesn’t prove anything.

Except the degeneracy of fornication.

The premise is unintentionally hilarious. What’s the prior here? Logically?

Women are supposed to limit themselves, as if reproduction is a sin (Bible says No) and men can do what they want (Bible says No). Angels fell for fornication. It’s up there with rape. In fact…

If women are supposed to keep their legs shut for their ‘owners’ (husbands), any man who beds a woman and doesn’t marry her is a rapist.

The Bible does imply this too.

It used to be on the law books as things like Breach of Promise. Aka it used to be illegal to defraud/lie to get sex historically too. Rape by fraud would be traditional to reinstate.

She is incapable of consenting except to be wed, in a church, with her previous owner’s (father’s) permission.

They’re implicitly arguing against the Sexual Revolution. A feminist event that allows them to sleep around. Because they defend their ‘right’ to sleep around… (not endogenous, not a right).

Fallacy of Poor analogy.

They’re implicitly saying that all fornication is rape and sex is otherwise stolen from women by criminal men. We’re helpless. As in, we can’t consent to the guy using the metaphor either. It’s an argument to female hypoagency. Also sexist to men, as all rapists and aggressors who only want one thing.

The persuasive case against Eurasians

The psychiatric issues cannot be denied.

OT but I’ll put it here

He wasn’t even handsome.
Seriously, all the ‘straight men’ calling him attractive need a good, long look in the mirror but that involves coming out of the closet on the other side.

He looked like a puffy sex doll, with the middle distance porn star stare. Definite creeper vibe, probable anime fetish. It’s mostly in the lips. We call that a trout pout but it’s a pretty good indicator of whorishness since it’s usually a result of Botox. He looked like a strange ambiguous anime character on a balloon or bobblehead. At least very femme for a man. He looked about 13. This case disproves a lot of supposedly redpill truisms e.g. rich guys always win, women will sleep with anything if it’s cocky enough, hypergamy is a female thing instead of a projection of male ambition, women are superficial but also don’t care about looks, you need a car and the alpha mindset (WTF NLP BS is that, alpha males IRL have children and ONE mate) and finally, mixed race is the future. I guess that’s why they have high rejection rates both on dating websites and organ donation. Evil, bigoted biology, amirite?

I still see ‘redpill men’ going on about the injustice of it.
The world doesn’t owe you sex. That’s entitlement. No IFs or BUTs. That’s entitlement. Put down the porn. They’re the male Sandra Flukes expecting the rest of us to give them orgasms…. because they exist, therefore they deserve it.

If you’re basing your lifestyle on a rapper, you’re doing Life wrong.
If your ‘bang’ (shudder) is on birth control, you shouldn’t feel proud. They aren’t ‘selecting’ you for anything. Darwin doesn’t apply to sterile sex and even IF she got pregnant, you’d be the first lot to 180 your ‘principles’ (really signals) and demand an abortion OR an exemption from child support (so Alpha, to abandon your children, so strong, not to mention cuckolding some other guy you call Beta, such brotherly love). You aren’t proving your masculinity, your Alpha-ness or anything other than your ability to be a throbbing dildo or otherwise vaginal plug while she’s between ‘boyfriends’. Where’s the victory here.

If you think hypersexuality is a positive force for society, you’re a feminist.

They would agree with that sentiment, I think. I have no illusions where these supposedly right-wing males stand. The lays never lie. Your politics is proven by your personal life.

The rest of the world won’t fetishize your child the way you fetishized their mother with some Oriental BDSM BS. Don’t expect everyone to agree with your vision or, as the feminists themselves call it, fuck your beauty standards.

If you think about it, he’s trying to emulate his parents’ relationship with his Daddy’s money, like a male Paris Hilton. I don’t know what to comment about that, let’s leave it.

If you actually read his manifesto, it doesn’t go on about women per se.

It goes on about white, blonde women.

How dare they not let him buy them? Like, we’re people? He knows what they need, like he’s their surrogate Sugar Daddy father figure. [Protip for women: if any man hints at trying to roleplay your father or a Daddy-like figure, run, he’s an r-type. Ks want an equal force in the home, they don’t actually control contrary to r-type belief, because they don’t need to, they know their woman is good.] He cares about women so much he thought we are disposable objects, not future wives and mothers capable of making our own decisions, including knowing when to reject someone who’s clearly missing a couple of screws. Consent requires a basic level of intelligence to know when and what to reject. [Also why if women can’t vote, fucking them would be pedophilia, legally. Either we have agency and can make such weighty decisions like reproduction or not. Pick ONE.]

That’s right, your mystery meat White Saviour was anti-white. Why do you want this supposed beta uprising if you’re doing so well IRL and also not beta or lower yourself? Is this not some delta revenge fantasy?

And being nice gets you nothing. That’s called the First World standard. It’s the minimum. You aren’t special for being polite to women because women are people, the same way women aren’t entitled to a drink because they smiled at a guy.

A puppy is nice.

Nobody wants to fuck a puppy.

Have the standards for husband slipped so low?

The self-aware r-types try to win women from both sides by signalling K. Run away. They’re crazy. Leave them to the cokeheads and sluts. Let the genetic suicides get on with it and burn out their pleasure circuits. Yes, that’s what burnout is.

10 signs of a commitment-phobic man

They’re the ones thirty years from now wondering where his Dream Woman went and/or why she never showed up.

She married another man. It’s a competition. For female fertility. You lost it.

Timing is everything? You need to select from your age-peer group while the pickings are good (preferably below 30). Divorce risk increases with age gap.

http://www.thefemininewoman.com/2012/12/10-signs-of-a-commitment-phobic-man

“A man that doesn’t talk nicely about women has never felt like he was worthy of them, and probably spent many years feeling like he could not handle them.
Which means there is a good chance he doesn’t feel like he could handle you. Some men are just downright bitter and angry towards females and see them as a pain because they have felt rejected by them their whole lives.”

Slam dunk.

“Nature didn’t make us to be smart all the time; it made us to be as easily willing to have sex as possible with the man who got to our ears by sweet talking so we could pass on our genes and propagate the human species.”

“Some men just constantly blame women for things that go wrong in their life. There’s a legitimate reason for this; men don’t understand women; so they cannot handle them; and when they can’t handle them and they see their lives falling apart, then the EASIEST thing to do is look for someone to blame; a WOMAN!
See – If a man’s reaction to problems in the relationship is to blame you, or constantly point out where you went wrong, then you have a problem.”

“If a man talks badly about men who are married, or who are taking care of children, then it’s a pretty good sign he doesn’t care much for a deep commitment with a woman.”

It’s like a feminist saying how much she admires single mothers.

What is any sane man going to think of that?

R-types. Be vigilant.

For example, the single dating pool will contain almost all the misogynists, those who fear women*, a far higher proportion than the world at large. Very few trick a woman into an unhappy marriage and it rarely lasts. So yes, encountering more bad apples when dating is correct flagging but you need to spot and next those, to move onto the ones in your league.

* Yes fear. They fear women. They avoid women. Why avoid something inferior to you? Wanna know a secret?

Men are terrified of women. All of them. They rarely admit it and then just from the sides e.g. women are mysterious, women are crazy, I’ll never understand women. If it’s a descriptor you could apply to a bear, they’re scared. 

Are women intimidated by men? No. The trappings of success or the threat of violence.

Men are intimidated by talking to us alone, let alone in large groups. QED.

Men sluttier than women

Nobody is ‘lying’ either. Learn to read the research, not the commentary feed from some butthurt bloke. The lie scales are applied to both sexes (independent variables) in a given study. That is how they are constructed, literally. For comparison’s sake aka the study, it holds.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/sexual-health-and-advice/8958520/Average-man-has-9-sexual-partners-in-lifetime-women-have-4.html

Why the discrepancy? you wisely ask.

There are fewer female sluts than male, but they put out a lot more per…. ahem, head.

cute wink

Result? Men gain more ‘experience’, to put it politely.

Now, a little theory…

Remember, this studies frequency of switching. The cause can be traced back via IV to frequency of sex acts too, as the two variables are intertwined (men and women). Otherwise, logically, and sexual congress requiring one male and one female, you would expect even results e.g. men 5, women 5. Men are switching between more women, as you can see from their mean, but they are switching among the same pool of women, necessarily, whereas the total of females is much lower. The average female switches partner less, yes, but what type is the average woman? …

Told you promiscuity, the act, was the problem, and male in face. If you insist on blaming one sex, they’re at the centre of anything sexual, online and off.

If you have data, go ahead and prove me wrong, manwhores.

This is as silly as arguing cuckoldry in the age of DNA testing.

In short, this suggests, pending further results, that men use and use up a lower quality of woman before trading up socially to their final partner. Kinda like a good hand to hold in blackjack. To have and to hold.. They crave the social security like women crave the sexual kind. Hypergamy is a mass neurosis of projection, to anyone who can read.

You don’t see large groups of women on the prowl, versus Pull Nights ( lads on the pull). [SATC is fiction, globally and historically.]

Pool* = sample, arguably the SMP in practice.
Female mean = the total available females in theory, e.g. including the married, the aged, the ill and the celibate.
You see the issue? They’re all lumped together, the data isn’t stratified correctly. Deliberately.
Even a bar chart based on partner count or sexual frequency in a week would be illuminating.
However, the number of count for slutty males must be even higher, because as not-practicing women hold down the slutty average, the number of non-practicing men hold down the manwhore mean too.

dean winchester supernatural evil smirk lol laughing amused

Isn’t science fun?

This accurately traces the perils of lumping the sexes in together, obscuring mating patterns which crossover i.e. promiscuity. Further data computation was required to assess this question.

Obviously none of this data includes rape or other sexual crimes.
Accusing all men of being rapists is exactly as stupid as accusing all women of being whores. They’re both over-reactions designed to defame the opposite sex’s reputation from different sides (take/be taken, force/choose). Instead it cleverly plays on an old question Can a whore be raped?

Nobody mentions this. So I have to.