Re-watching Fight Club

The Riot Club was less on-the-nose.

Disclaimer: probably shit opinions, I am no cinephile.
It’s a cult classic but what is its cultural value now, almost twenty years later?

I still like the film but I see things in it recently I cannot ignore.
I can’t fully love it anymore. This, in spite of Peak Pitt.

TLDR: You go, emo guy!
Kinda like 500 Days of Summer but if Tom was gay and masochistic.

Also, does it piss anyone else off that Tom learned nothing at the end of that?
Is it supposed to piss me off? Well, it does. Nine years later.

Fight Club is a satire of rebellion. It’s completely safe. Even the punching has no real risk of death or serious injury. They become more drone-like in a combination of terror cell, monastery and military, but they’re too chickenshit to actually risk being shot at. They’re cowards hiding in versions of masculinity that never existed. Men didn’t go around punching a tiger to death, they raised a family. None of them do.

Imagine if (spoiler)

 

Tyler were real but Marla Singer were the imaginary one?

Imagine how much more sense that movie would make.

That’s the best theory I have. If you didn’t bring a cup of tea, you can leave on that thought. I won’t expand much on it because it is perf.

Are we ready? O.K. Pointing-out similar to The Last Psychiatrist, for time.

As it is, the control the narrator has is an illusion. The house wouldn’t exist, it’s very 90s, like the Friends apartment. There’s no way anyone involved could afford that apartment and the literal mansion wouldn’t be vacated, but it might, however, hold the Narrator’s delusions of grandeur.
He hates bosses so much he becomes a Mafia boss.
He is a sadist that enjoys listening to the pain and suffering of others. Support groups for male cancer, what a sick fuck.
He hates himself but has no self, no purpose in society.
He feels useless because he is useless.
He contributes nothing to the world that couldn’t be automated in future.
He has middle-class problems because, sorry, poor people don’t shop at Ikea.
It’s a teenage boy’s idea of rebelling, you all live in a commune (political, yes, it’s a commune) and hit your feelings out.
Er, you’re still expressing your emotions in a safe environment. It’s therapy.
You could just have got a gym sub and taken up boxing. – things a woman would say
Ah, but then he might be defeated. This is key. The Narrator refuses to take risks or they magically pay off.
He’s a Gary Stu, everything makes him more powerful and works out. For example, he isn’t caught stealing human tissue, which requires permits. There’s no regulation of his ingredients. Taxes aren’t mentioned. Now I’ve seen the tax thing, it looks like a missed opportunity for a monologue.
The locals would notice a building full of skinheads making a racket, come on.
He survives more shit than Jesus but says edgy macho tough guy stuff that would Schwarzenegger blush at how cliche and 80s it is. The fact he looks incapable of lifting an especially heavy bucket with that stringy figure makes this remarkable. He looks about 15 but talks tough. He threatens to shoot people and nobody reports him.
Really?


Look up the personality traits of male borderlines.

Marla has the female version, they’re not soulmates; they’re both crazy.
Narrator clearly has anhedonia, but only in the beginning. He isn’t an insomniac. Yet his anhedonia magically switches off in the antisocial kind to become a leader (because you can just up and decide one day) and the sexual kind (that isn’t how libido works). The guy works all hours of the week and has energy to make a toddler jealous?
It’s a parody of a revenge fantasy. The Matrix worked because it was sci-fi, the robots aren’t real either. The world knows it’s fake. The Fight Club universe doesn’t know how fake it is.
They claim to know but not a single person acts uniquely. Narrator sells shit and talks shit to hit other men.
It’s not about the women. It’s never about the women. The only woman we see is also batshit.
Where are the women? Kids? Where are the normies? Where are the happy people he hates so bad?
It’s his jealousy of other men. Wait, envy. Envy of other men. Real men. Men that are living in his head (the Cave Man as a false God of pagan freedom) and he doesn’t care if they never existed (fantasy prone but if the concept is impossible, he should care).

https://namimc.org/male-borderline-personality-disorder-know/

Complaining constantly about hypothetical abandonment is the ticker. He makes no effort to keep people in his life and secretly believes them inferior. That isn’t self-loathing, more a feature of narcissism (inferiority complex).

“Other males will “scare” their spouses away with their quick tempers, argumentativeness, and sometimes even physical aggression. An interaction with a male with BPD may include the individual saying any and everything to trigger their spouse’s anger.”

They’re not heroes, they’re the bad guys.
BPDs are a big ball of emotion. In women, it becomes internal. In men, they’re too grandiose to commit suicide so they take revenge on the world, a lot like psychopaths. They value nothing and lie to the contrary. What does the Narrator value? Only himself. Nothing else. He stands for nothing else. It’s a brittle figure of strength.
The control freak aspect is externalized. Narrator does nothing. The money he makes isn’t saved like a normal person with a brain, he spends all his time talking to himself (was Tyler’s plane seat occupied by a terrified person?) and if he can’t be happy, he’s such an omega he would rather take the whole world down with him (Savior complex) than watch someone else be happy (common in narcissism, envy triggers rage outbursts but BPDs can have rage episodes and violence triggered by envy of the happy too). If they can’t be balanced, they’ll fuck with your head too. That’s where gaslighting comes in. Narrator does indoctrinate Mayhem members like a cult.
“I’m the only one who’d have you” type of lines. Faking the moral high ground as a cover for their double standards.
Stonewalling and random requests of assistance.
BPDs can’t self-soothe, they are the original attention whores.
Narrator hates the world but responds to this by spending more time in it? Makes no sense.


Re-watching this film and actually thinking from his position, it’s insane. There’s a snowflake attachment to reality, where he expects it should be designed for him (well, that’s capitalist, so it is).

Sorry God/Daddy let you down. Setting things on fire and thinking you’re a pagan isn’t the answer.
Fuck you Dad! is not a credible life philosophy. Who will sell your Viking horn mugs?

“Do you know a male who has been with tons of women? Did this guy feel guilty or did they feel admired?”

In the latter case, either they have psychiatric immature issues / are a minor and glamorize how ‘cool’ this makes them (attention) or they’re an r-type. Out of school, nobody decent admires the impulsive, the attention dries up, gloating at how they got away with all the ‘resources’. The out-of-control aspect is common among cases of brain damage.

http://gettinbetter.com/casanova.html

I can’t think of anyone who envies the bestial, but they must imagine themselves envied to cope.

“self-sabotage in personal and professional realms”

Where was Narrator’s ambition in his old job? He’s still working. He could’ve got a better job or moved company.
Where did the magical ambition fairy pop up?
The black-outs seal it and fact he’s literally Unreliable Narrator.

“an incapacity to want you unless they can’t have you”

Peter Pan.

“A colleague who works almost exclusively with male borderlines, has told me that they generally present as commitment-phobes and sex addicts”

Imagine the film without Marla. She’s far more interesting than he is, isn’t she?
So even in a film all about men, their lives are hollow until a Manic Pixie in black comes along.

“Casanova makes sure you know how grateful he is to have finally found you, because you’re “like no other woman” he’s ever known. His enthusiasm and glee seem authentic: One of my ex’s would initially remark how great it was, that he’d finally met a female who was his “intellectual equal.””

Not that they’re writing checks on themselves they cannot cash.
Do you know how many men literally claim an IQ of 170, thinking we cannot tell?
It’s like claiming to be 7 foot tall. We’re fairly certain you’re lying.
And if Einstein was around 150, what the hell have you done with your life? Ah, degeneracy. Sleeping on couches and clubbing. Sounds more like an IQ of 70, lower IQs are more aggressive. Men who talk and talk and talk and talk, do not have anything to say. Let alone 170 in IQ points material. You wouldn’t be telling some random woman in that case, you’d be submitting it to the Nobel committee.
BPD is one of those conditions with negative self-awareness, they are among the greatest losers of society but dat
grandiosity, they claim to be the best. You know — secretly.

Otherwise their awesomeness might explode the world or something.

Random: The remarriage thing sounds like Elon, now that combustion would be entertaining to watch. It’s part of the control where they trap a woman, intending to cheat. They don’t ‘mean’ the vows but you better uphold yours! (not how it works? very stupid men)

“The brunt of his unhealed pain concerning the loss of other attachments was transferred onto me”

The BPD will deliberately cause suffering in those stupid enough to stick around them.
They vent out the pain and enjoy seeing the result of that pain in others. In a padded cell, with nobody to hurt, they’ll kill themselves rather than cope with their own emotions.
When caught, they play wounded, cry victim, gaslight the victim that they’re the ones being abusive. Look at the honest comments in any story on the topic. It’s what they do, it’s their game.

“Tears streamed down his face” imagine an adult with the brain of a toddler
that’s literally it

At least they tend to attract other shit-tier people.
Again, omit Marla because at minimum she’s female and Tyler isn’t actually there.
All of them are pathetic specimens of men. Narrator’s leadership is never challenged despite superior men physically, it’s weird.

“Borderlines thrive on crisis, drama and chaos, which contribute to their sense of aliveness--it’s the main reason why many are treatment resistant.”

Lol, nothing about Fight Club reminds me of that.

“The Chase is intoxicating for Casanova–outside of that, he gets bored. Borderline females are the only ones who are better at this game than he is~ and in truth, they can hold his attention indefinitely.”

Marla.
Your parents’ issues are not yours.
That’s an excuse, isn’t it?

“Aside from any sense of empowerment he may have derived from adopting the role of surrogate mate for Mother, replicating his father’s antics helps him identify with the dad he never had, and minimize his pain from the missing paternal bond. Stealing another man’s woman enables him to punish/shame other men, as he might have relished doing to his father, as an abandoned little boy. This pattern compulsively repeats, as he’s acting-out unresolved rage from childhood neglect and betrayal.”

Maladaptive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetition_compulsion

“Apparently, he’d needed me to desire him, to fortify his self-image.”

ah, the sad specter of the aged playboy

“Many are determined to tell me how much younger they look than their chronological age,

that’s a tell

what great lovers they are, and how every female they’ve been with sexually, has declared them “The Best!”

Ask for their social media names to check. Watch the color drain.

A confident male doesn’t need to talk about his sexual prowess, or anything else he feels sure of for that matter; income, job status, athletic superiority, good looks, academic achievements, etc.”

What does Marla say?
It isn’t a threat to you?

“Too many females are easily taken in by the Borderline’s apparent brilliance and base of knowledge. In direct contrast to the instability you’ve observed in this male, there have been times you’ve glimpsed what seems to be his wisdom, his spirituality and his incredible knack for stating things that make him sound like the absolute authority on health and well-being. Borderlines are usually plagiarists and copycats.

It goes on about their Guru Complex. Isn’t Narrator trying to be a secular Guru?
Feeling dead inside is ill, full stop.
Poor Jewish men (there’s a section).
Narrator points out his father abandoned his mother… but he hates his mother.


The father would deliberately set up multiple families (think Bruce Jenner), classic r-strategy.
The emotionally disturbed are strong projectors, don’t even need a lightbulb in there.
Combined with hazing, it’s like the military but for pussies who fear real discipline, since they lacked that growing up.

Apathy isn’t a motivation, here in the real world. They fuel themselves with spite and hatred. Of the good.
Tyler the Tyrant, worst father figure ever (with the hand burn to prove it). Self-destructive people are one thing, but to wanna destroy the world? …Like there’s no good in it, ever? Classic narc. Tough love is not repeatedly punching another man in the dick. It’s called sadism.
Fight Club is a homoerotic (men only) S&M club and I dare you to prove otherwise by definition.
Wiping out all debt is a kiddy solution to adult problems. It doesn’t change the shitty characters that got into debt.
It’s the hipster love of authenticity, via anti-authenticity. Ironic authenticity, via cookie cutter.
Like the Gary Stu of James Bond, they parody masculinity by needing to do something to prove they’re a man, and that thing is materialism. Prove it to who? Long lost Daddy. Maybe after twenty years he’ll come back. So instead of working for the Man they pay for the Man’s approval. Smart.


Nobody in Archer is likable either. All of them are trash people.

That film is far more hostile to men than it ever could be to women.
How many years are you working off the clubbing debt? Did you add up the whole shebang? Aren’t hookers cheaper? Yes, of course you’re in control, now hand over your credit card to the nice bartender for some shitty, shitty vodka.

PSA

Modern men are stupid and it makes me sad.

Why do Boomers want an NHS?

The most common STIs include chlamydia, gonorrhoea, herpes, syphilis and genital warts.

Rates for the 50 to 70 age group are at their highest on record although this may partly be due to better detection methods.

Highest on record, including returning soldiers. When Universal Care had to be set up after WW1 because so many men caught STDs from prostitutes. Prior to this, STD care was excluded because medicine was church-funded and you deserve it.

Ironically, if they hadn’t flooded the First World with the rest of it, they’d have kept cheap/free healthcare, it wouldn’t have crashed (in their lifetime) and killed them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4014138/Rising-divorce-rates-casual-sex-condoms-young-means-STDs-soared-38-baby-boomers.html

Total cost is multiplied by people in the country, dummies.

Neurosyphilis would explain their voting patterns.

http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/resources/history/AQA-81452A-24667-LA.PDF

http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/body-and-mind/the-british-army%E2%80%99s-fight-against-venereal-disease-in-the-%E2%80%98heroic-age-of-prostitution%E2%80%99/

During the First World War, VD caused 416,891 hospital admissions among British and Dominion troops (Mitchell & Smith 1931: 74). Excluding readmissions for relapses, roughly 5 % of all the men who enlisted in Britain’s armies during the war became infected. In 1918, there were 60,099 hospital admissions for VD in France and Flanders alone (ibid.: 73). By contrast, only 74,711 cases of ‘Trench Foot’ were treated by hospitals in France and Flanders during the whole of the war – and this total also includes those suffering from Frost Bite (ibid.: 88). Although Trench Foot has come to symbolise the squalor of the conflict in the popular imagination, a man was more than five times as likely to end up in hospital suffering from Syphilis or Gonorrhoea.

The army should nip that in the bud and just shoot the leaders of degeneracy.
It’s a coward’s way to get posted back home.

Deliberate illness by ‘lifestyle choice’ is unacceptable.

Public money was going on these pricks. At least send them home, make it public knowledge of the reason for the disgrace.
The women were obviously spies and should also be shot.
You know most of the users would’ve bragged, getting their innocent comrades killed.

It’s a war, no fucking around.

I’ve read cases of men going loopy from STDs after the war and unlike the PTSD cases, nobody cared. Well, you brought it on yourself.

Not to mention, makes us look bad abroad and the families, including wives, were naively sending gifts.

In British military law, only the concealment of VD, not the contraction of a disease itself, was punishable as a crime (Manual of Military Law 1907: 278, 285). Nevertheless, soldiers who were hospitalised with VD found themselves penalised by an antiquated system of ‘hospital stoppages’. In the days before a National Health Service, any man admitted to hospital for reasons not connected with his military service was liable to have money stopped from his pay to help cover the cost of his treatment. Although ‘hospital stoppages’ were finally abolished in October 1917, a levy was retained in cases where a man was deemed to have been admitted ‘through his own fault’, VD patients and alcoholics being the principle targets (Hogge & Garside 1918: 325). ‘Hospital stoppages’ became, in effect, a fine.

You know what we do when a dog won’t stop fucking?

We castrate it.

Nobody else is allowed to fuck on the job.
You’d never catch the Spartans doing that. Family honour, national pride.

Treatment was invasive and painful, and VD hospitals, set up in 1915 to concentrate expertise and keep VD patients away from their ‘honourably’ wounded comrades, often had a poor reputation for quality of care (Harrison 1995: 140).

We should have those again.
Wages of sin.

You wanna know why so many modern men are infertile? Look at the sins of the father down a few generations.
There are times it’s a good thing someone can’t breed.

STDs and child disease

I was reading this

https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2017/oct/16/itvs-victoria-illustrates-how-19th-century-sexism-helped-syphilis-to-spread

because I wrote that piece on syphilis.

As well as causing infertility, syphilis can induce miscarriages and stillbirths. Some children born to syphilitic mothers will never show any signs of infection. Others die in infancy or develop serious health complications.

And antibiotics are failing.

And it struck me, wait, that continues on. It never disappeared.

Except women are still the ones blamed despite men counting more partners in studies (most sluts are men, mathematically and willingness plays into this) and there are links to psychiatric conditions.

No pill for ruining your legacy.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/herpes-virus-may-be-trigger-autism

Top of my mind.

“It’s a very important paper,” says Karen Jones, a behavioral neuroimmunologist at the University of California, Davis, who was not involved with study. “It’s also really important to remember that not every mom who has HSV-2 is going to have a kid with autism.”

The idea virgin brides will prevent any STDs or medical grievances is absurd.
Chastity applies to men as well for good reason. Purity is physical?

This idea either sex can both have their cake and eat it is childish. Have it All is a lie sold to weaklings. Adults make difficult decisions, you don’t pop into the Perfect Husband/Wife mold overnight, it takes years and plenty of omissions!
To put your future wife and children at risk like that when sex toys exist should count as abuse, since abused children have similar problems, including catching the diseases of the parents.

http://bigthink.com/videos/kathleen-mcauliffe-and-impact-of-disease-on-sexual-attraction-and-fecal-transplants

The microbiome sexuality link remains strong.
Any sex, but especially anal.
Wow, I wonder which sex was brainwashed into being obsessed with that?

The focus on women is based on the fact we carry, we aren’t the source of the problem.
That’s medically impossible to be both cause and effect.
Fresh infections cause the most damage. Whose fault is that?

Video: Virgin before marriage or not?

Literally the best video I’ve ever seen on this topic.

Pair bonding is chemical and sex-based.

That glue is meant to be for marriage and pair bonding is impaired in both sexes.

The haters will be jealous you aren’t rushing to the divorce courts.

Cheating risk is lower too.

It’s all around better.

I disagree with the idea that she isn’t superior. Morally, she is superior. She demonstrated the virtue of chastity, that makes her superior. She just doesn’t use it as an excuse to treat normal people like dirt, which is arrogance.

Related.

Women shouldn’t be topless in public

Following on from-

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2017/04/10/women-used-to-be-ladies/

 

True.

Neither should men.

A solid century ago you couldn’t flash either.

In fact, you couldn’t even show your waistcoat at dinner, this was risque.

These were male thots. Note the closed body language, they’re uncomfortable.

While you’re applying clothing standards, remember they apply to both sexes. That is what we call a social convention.

No mini-skirts? No shorts!
Fact: Edwardian women wore shorts too, before skirts shortened to that length later.
As in, women showed leg in public – after men started it.

If I can’t show small children my tits, why can you flash them yours?
And if it’s purely a fat issue, are flat-chested women exempt? Must shapely bosom-ed men take up a bra?
It isn’t only women’s breasts that are sexualised in the media, is it, Mr Pecs?
If anything, women have more cause to expose than men, since our breasts actually retain a second biological function and constricting them is bad for the nerves, increases the breast cancer risk and weakens the ligaments that prevent sagging. Logically, none of the anti-feminist stuff checks out this time.

Exception: the beach, your bathroom. That’s it. Not BBQs, camping, whatever else.

If you think women can’t break out the sexist humour to justify this stuff as well, you are wrong.

A man’s place is in the shed with all the other tools.

Link: The stupidity of ‘White Sharia’, it’s anti-reality

They’re the type of kid at school who just lied lied lied lied lied and expected everyone would just go along with it.

In a little kid, it’s passable. In men over the age of 21, it’s a mental illness.

I’d bet a lot of them are male borderlines, considering their neurosis over wife abandonment. They get hostile if you question it, there is such a thing as a happy marriage, just not one that involves them. They are the problem.
They don’t mention most of the worst divorce stories are actually inter-racial, white husband and Asian wife.
You’re not supposed to ask, it triggers their narcissistic rage when you question their brain. There isn’t much in there.

https://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2017/06/white-sharia-alt-right-at-war-with.html

It actually came from the manosphere, not the Alt Right. They bled over here and want to bring their dindu Muh Dick ways with them. They think this is mature and manly, as opposed to the shameful self-control of a bonobo.
The woman question? Is that the best name they can come up with? That sounds like a pathetic attempt to draw focus.

Oh, what would that look like?
Like, most rapists are women?
Most murderers are women?
Most deadbeat parents are mothers?
Er… yeah, it isn’t a *woman* problem, is it?

It comes down to – women won’t be my free whore, the problem is women, the whores. 

They want to control the return to traditionalism because they’re too scared of women to be nice to them and perhaps maybe marry and pass on their shit(skin) genes.

Look up the Iceland strike. They’d die without female cooperation. They deserve to, by Parental Investment Theory. Humans need both parents or they’re messed up. A lot of these guys love/hate their mother, especially if their father cheated on her. To this day, they blame her for his fuck-ups, literally.
Sharia only works on the low IQ, it’s designed to keep them from killing each other. The high IQ have meritocracy and cooperation and that’s why we’re civilized. The Ice Age improved our genome past that point, see A Troublesome Inheritance.
The history they claim has never existed, they believe in the mommy-wife apron Fantasyland that only existed in 50s vacuum cleaner adverts. And if women are homemakers, men must be soldiers. You don’t get to sit on your ass in the unions or be a paid-up party man.

They are totally ignorant of ancient and European history but spout off about white people. The keyboard alphas there are 9/10 non-white, it’s the dirty secret of PUA – brown man seeks white harem.

Let’s take a few of the rationalisations;

“Women’s sexual desires, almost universally, are straightforward and one-dimensional; they desire the physically strong and dominant man.”
Biology says that’s men with simple lust, quit projecting. You can’t even get a woman to orgasm, don’t pretend you know how we work. In long-term mate selection studies, women choose the ‘Dad’ model and reject the ‘Cad’, you are literally 180-degrees wrong.
“Therefore, race is not a romantic factor for women. They simply want the strongest.”
White women miscegenate the least in all dating website studies. On theapricity forum, for example, many of the ‘white people preservation’ men, are dating Asians.
“And white men are pussies, which is why white women increasingly prefer non-white men.”
Would a white man write that? Who planted that idea? Disciple of Roosh?
Who told you who they prefer?
Where’s your data? Your opinion is not valid, at all.


Why all the assaults and harassment and rape gangs if the white women actually wanted them?

“Anglin attempts to pound his readers into submission by aggressively insisting his claims are settled science—this is a common tactic people use to try to cover for the fact that they’re full of crap. You’ll notice, for instance, that nowhere in the article does he link to a single scientific study. (Although he does provide links for his readers to purchase steroids.)”
Oh, steroid brain. It reduces your humanity.

If it’s settled, you must have a list of studies with cracking methodology.
…..They never do.

But they’re definitely projecting because as this genius links

They have Yellow Fever and want to pretend the white women didn’t want them first.
https://meetville.com/blog/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/

Instead of attacking White Fever, they attack women.
Almost as if the men writing it….have it?
divide and conquer, cleave the white man from women, and the women are defenseless…
POS r-types

Their greatest enemy is chivalry, which is actually human decency.
Chivalry also applied to other gentlemen, like, they don’t even bother knowing what words mean, the illiterate brown bastards. It existed in the upper classes because they lugged around the big weapons…like cops carrying guns now. They follow a code, right? What do you think that is?

“The only consistent messages from the data is that the majority of women want a man who (1) is taller than them and (2) is not a fat slob.”
where they fail us
they think they can raise an incest baby grown in a fake womb
but they lack the time out of their busy schedule of bile to lose the chub

Women are sexist if they don’t want a short, balding, lazy fatass.
– they’re literally fat acceptance feminists with the sexes inverted

They don’t know how repulsive they are. It’s the entitlement. They think Patriarchy would entitle them to a wife. Like, what, fathers care so little they hand out coupons?

And I bet Mr 3.5 thinks he would get a cute, 17yo white 8.

You prove financial stability, the woman provides her fertility, idiot.
Women do provide – life. You can’t print life at the bank.

In Biblical times, men had rites of passage. You didn’t pass? You didn’t pass on your genes. Stop crying, baby.
They don’t actually study how patriarchies worked, especially with white people.
You’d get strung up for defiling someone’s daughter – for some reason they aren’t too keen on listening to rape victims…. acting like the rapist is the Real Victim Here.
They use fake screen names and no photo because you’d see the racial composition here, and the lower average IQ of those groups.

“Are you beginning to see just how far the ideology of the neo-patriarchic Alt Right is disconnected from reality?”

the word is ‘psychotic’, Gerry

“Just try to think about the real world for ten seconds. Which of these statements do you honestly think is closer to the truth: (A) The most attractive 5% of women tend to date the most attractive 5% of men. (B.) The most attractive 5% of women tend to date the toughest 5% of men. Of course, there is some overlap between these two categories of men, but clearly (A) is the right answer. If you’re an adult and haven’t noticed this by now, you’re either dumb as a rock or have very eccentric tastes in women.”

They are too dumb to believe in Darwin. Roosh actually reviewed a book of philosophy by a modern writer and thought he disproved evolution. You see, Darwin would mean women are right to have standards – the peacock displays, not the peahen.

They don’t believe in male beauty or more literally, the manosphere refuses to believe in their own ugliness.
They can’t rub testosterone cream over their mug and look like Brad Pitt.

Practically, none of this will ever happen.

How are you gonna get these women from their fathers? Is that not pedophilia? How can you marry someone without consent? Won’t they just throw themselves down the stairs if you rape them pregnant?

The lookism guys are much smarter and genuinely self-improving. The PUAs hate those guys, because they get results.

They know deep down it’s about them and their deep ugliness but this makes them bitter. They have to cheat, like an Asian chick getting tit implants to get a white boy interested. For the first time in history, the low SES have a voice online.

“This Manosphere/neo-patriarchy stuff isn’t just embarrassing because it’s so thoroughly wrong, it also comes off as really pathetic. The Alt Right is supposed to be a serious ideological movement, not a self-help seminar. For a movement that spends so much time worrying about trying to appear as the “cool kids” (way too much time), you’d think people around here would be sensitive to how “beta” this looks to most people. You live in a country where women consider white men to be most attractive, so if you’re having a hard time out there, I’m sorry brother, but that’s on you. Don’t taint the ethnonationalist cause by associating it with your sexual frustrations.”

They are not Alt Right.
They are MGTOW who reject K-selected unions and never want to marry.
They are genetic suicides who don’t want children unless they can abandon them to a nanny.
There is nothing traditional in them. They think it will oppress or upset women, that’s their motive, to hurt women in revenge. [cough Elliot Rodger cough]
Since when has a good husband and motherhood upset a K-woman????
WHEN?

These losers call themselves redpill but ignore any data that isn’t cherry-picked to cater to their feelings.
Oh, but women are special snowflakes because …periods?
What’s their excuse, broflakes? They’re like Trigglypuff if you mention the world doesn’t revolve around their micropenis.
They can’t attract women because they hate women. Duh.
“Since ideological truth is subjective, you can base your ideology on anything, but just because you can, doesn’t mean that you should. One thing the neo-patriarchists should do though, is man-up and admit they were wrong.”

They’re Peter Pan fuckboys, they’re trash. They’re so passive aggressive they’ve sabotaged their own lives, let them go and destroy themselves. They have the right.

The strangest thing about these discussions?

They deny HBD (on race) but then try to mouth off on HBD topics…. with no awareness of how HBD findings are compiled or any real, good data.

They’re sub-100 IQs trying to pass themselves off as mathematically literate.
Milo started this with one (literally one) article on an IQ finding.

He didn’t want to be scientific and get a psychometrician in, just punch down (as he sees it). It’s like a 13yo’s view of strength, the bully model.
Their role models are a Jewish homo and Roosh, who supposedly has both Jewish and Muslim blood…. that explains the nose job, frankly…

yeah, these guys wanna bring in Christian patriarchy, we can trust them!

Bonus: the sad autism of notch counters.

The phenomenon pointed up here with our lad is that of the “notch count.” In his case, the notches are for amusingly inconsequential things: hugging his cousin, having an internet “girlfriend” for a week or so, etc. Our lad exults in his “success” with the ladies, when in truth his supposed achievements have been minimal to non-existent.  But to chortle at his embarrassingly unearned exultation misses the broader critique implied here. Even if that which counts for legitimate “notches” in our lad’s estimation doesn’t amount to much in our perception, his degradation doesn’t consist in his absence of “legitimate” action; rather, it lies in the fact that he, like many men, base their feeling of masculine self-worth on the number of “notches” they have obtained.

from https://alternative-right.blogspot.com/2015/10/autistic-notch-count.html

They’re trying to be the popular girl…. by being sluts.
Manwhores have the dignity of jailbait. Look how much of a fake they can be, to get women to laugh!
It’s counterphobic, they hate/fear women so spend all their spare time… literally fucking women over.

The bad women couldn’t control men without sex. Feminists told men that being sluts was something to brag about….. figure it out. I hate to see adult males demean themselves.