Drugs and homicide

All this hullabaloo about that Panorama documentary, I must throw my hat in the ring.

It’s an expensive hat, don’t touch it.

BRIEFLY

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4471985/

Quantitative data from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) adverse event reporting system (7) imply that some antidepressants may be associated with a disproportionately high number of violent events (8).

so it is an issue, just not with the entire class

Duh.

That’s a strawman.

Find me one recent spree killer who wasn’t on these meds at some point.
Now look up the fact that brain changes are permanent.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/08/04/serotonin-part-one.aspx

You’re not supposed to take them unless you’re actually depressed.

The overdiagnosis problem is not a matter of theory, it’s a question of brain-damaging people with the blues.

And they don’t actually prevent suicide if you look at outcomes.
By rigging the chemistry, they can actually make it likelier, since the brain tries to compensate for the drugs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/12/rows-over-study-which-claims-antidepressants-double-suicide-risk/

Researchers behind the Danish review said the study demolished “potentially lethal misconceptions” about the safety of the drugs, which are taken by more than 4 million Britons a year.

The analysis examined 13 studies, to see what impact the drugs had on patients who did not suffer from depression.

Scientists said these patients were selected, because previous studies linking suicide and antidepressants had been dismissed by those who said the deaths must have been caused by the mental health condition, rather than the pills.

…Prof Peter Gotzsche, of the Nordic Cochrane Centre, said such feelings could be considered as “precursors to suicidality or violence”

I suggest there’s a difference in effect on men and women.
This would explain the male suicide rate and homicide risk.

https://www.cchrint.org/2014/04/24/ssri-antidepressants-the-gateway-drug-to-mass-murder/

drawing specific attention to a number of mass shootings that have occurred as a result of these drugs. Prozac, for instance, which is often prescribed for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), was responsible for triggering multiple mass shootings at schools during the 1990s and 2000s, while other SSRIs have been linked to similar shootings.

http://www.naturalnews.com/039752_mass_shootings_psychiatric_drugs_antidepressants.html

Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common… and it’s not guns

https://ssristories.org/category/cause-of-death/murder-suicide/

From the homepage

There is a U.K. organization called Hundredfamilies  (http://www.hundredfamilies.org/ ).  It is concerned about homicides committed by people who are mentally ill, and wants the government to do more to prevent these deaths….

Naturally this gets covered up because ‘stigma’.

Ignore the people trying to abuse and rape and murder you! That sounds fine!

Prozac can lead to suicide and cause aggression, at least. This is well-known in the field.

Anti-psychotics are the worst though, the strongest meds.

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)73526-1/abstract

It’s almost like the brain is a complex organ and you shouldn’t fuck with it.

The serotonin imbalance hypothesis of depression wasn’t even right. It’s been shown as completely wrong – and you can have excess serotonin problems too. There’s no evidence in humans for serotonin deficiency, and even then, most serotonin is produced in the gut so it’s really a microbiome issue. #biology101 Naturally, insurance doesn’t pay as much for that as psychiatric meds.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4165625/

In the studies where violence goes down?

Funding

The Wellcome Trust

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/846302

Psychotropic medications, including antidepressants, benzodiazepines, and particularly opiate and nonopiate analgesics, are associated with a significantly increased risk for homicide, new research shows.

Jari Tiihonen, MD, PhD, professor, Department of Clinical Neuroscience, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden, and colleagues found that antidepressants increase the homicide risk by 31% and that benzodiazepines increase the risk by 45%.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26372359

CONCLUSIONS:

The association between SSRIs and violent crime convictions and violent crime arrests varied by age group. The increased risk we found in young people needs validation in other studies.

ageism!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20004282

There is an association of homicide with mental disorder, most particularly with certain manifestations of schizophrenia, antisocial personality disorder and drug or alcohol abuse. However, it is not clear why some patients behave violently and others do not. Studies of people convicted of homicide have used different definitions of mental disorder…..

Mental disease is the original non-PC term for ‘mental illness’.
TBF NAKALT… wait….

According to the definition of Hodgins, only 15% of murderers have a major mental disorder (schizophrenia, paranoia, melancholia).

Mental disorder increases the risk of homicidal violence by two-fold in men and six-fold in women.

Schizophrenia increases the risk of violence by six to 10-fold in men and eight to 10-fold in women.

Click to access kauffman2009.pdf

WHEN IN DOUBT, RESEARCH.

THERE IS DOUBT.

nobody has any reason to say You Shouldn’t Research That

those people are anti-science

SSRIs reportedly interact with 40 other drugs to cause
“serotonin syndrome.” This presents as twitching, tremors, rigidity,
fever, confusion, or agitation. Serotonin/norepinephrine reuptake
inhibitors (SNRIs) also may cause serotonin syndrome by
interactions

Excess serotonin.
Like I said the other day, a lot of these ‘depressed’ SJWs are causing their own ‘anxiety’ symptoms by dosing on the SSRIs instead of changing their life.

Just a year after fluoxetine was introduced, Bill Forsyth of
Maui, Hawaii, had taken it for only 12 days when he committed one
of the first murder/suicides attributed to any SSRI. In the same year
Joseph Wesbecker killed eight others and himself in a Louisville,
Ky., printing plant where he worked, after 4 weeks on fluoxetine.
Yet as early as 1986, clinical trials showed a rate of 12.5 suicides per
1,000 subjects on fluoxetine vs. 3.8 on older non-SSRIs vs. 2.5 on
placebo!An internal 1985 Lilly document found even worse results
and said that benefits were less than risks. Such documents were
released into the public domain by Lilly as part of the settlement in
the Wesbecker case. Fifteen more “anecdotes” of murder/suicide,
three with sertraline, were listed by DeGrandpre

This link has been known since the 80s

and we’re only discussing it now.

But trust Big Pharma.

Degeneracy or “subtle suicide”?

http://www.subtlesuicide.com/

It’s an interesting topic and needs more traction.

At what point do self-destructive choices (deathstyles, as Common Filth would have it) becomes suicidal self-harm?

Is this degeneracy, or does it express an unwillingness to live in these conditions?

Hook-up culture and promiscuity bad for psychiatric health

The “Well, duh” brand of science.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/casualsex.htm
h/t AC

“There’s always been a question about which one is the cause and which is the effect. This study provides evidence that poor mental health can lead to casual sex, but also that casual sex leads to additional declines in mental health.”

Age of first sex (what a pedophilic name that is) is a great marker for mental illness later in life, including risk of suicide. Yes, it very much includes abuse victims. Both count as social harm and personal damage.

Sex is an easy, natural high. Self-medication aside, the disturbance in the psyche caused by yet-more unstable chemicals, self-produced or not, would cause a downward spiral. It’s known as a self-destructive behaviour because there is no limit. It’s about dopamine more than serotonin, a close second. They are training their brain for the worst possible mechanisms, making it weaker, more capricious and brittle. These are the rats who would always push the dopamine lever, forsaking any food, until they die. It is an insane behaviour and at minimum, betrays a form of self-loathing which calls their willing consent into question. At least, medication must be regular and in this case it poses other health risks from the fact sexual activity is not (masturbation is lesser stimulus and may even out as a basic relief depending on timing). Many of them are on SSRIs, artificially boosting their body’s endorphins and continue to seek out more. It should be seen as self-harm, like cutting. They cannot appreciate the little things, which compounds the issue, like a hot-sauce addict who calls any food less spicy ‘bland’. Trendy, foreign food would also trigger dopamine release i.e. foodies are self-medicating. If placed on any dietary restriction, however minor, the novelty ‘buzz’ of food would wear off and they’d stop caring about it. Rations would infuriate and they queue for hours for a mediocre but fashionable dish. Fashions become insane because bored, rich people buy them. Fashions are casual because they are lazy and the psychology needs to be comfortable in looser clothing, compared to a minimal symbol of authority like a tie. They begin to loathe the sex they crave, from a feeling of entitlement, that ‘everybody belongs to everybody else’ and rejection becomes rage-inducting to them as narcissists.

There is no such thing as sex addiction because it’s simply more convenient for them than a dopamine drip (this would save the Government money in the long run and prevent their use as vectors of disease, including memetic transmission). However, sex is addictive. It’s a subtle distinction that must be made as they continue to plummet for the sake of a never-ending hunger, that is irrational and divorced from reality (read: psychotic). Unlike actual drugs, they burn out their body’s own production, which often leads them to begin supplementing with drugs to plug the deficit they feel, from party highs to mixing things and harder stuff. Escalation is the addiction and the sex itself is more a behavioural addiction that spirals into other habits, they do a similar thing with alcohol and chili peppers.

The Nazi undercut sported by hipsters is a symbol of victory over the ideology. It is also convenient to care for and less likely to pick up bugs from their indiscretions.

Street music discusses their favourite things: all hedonic but the treadmill never slows.

Men commit suicide when they fail to get power

https://www.academia.edu/13429844/A_critque_of_hegemonic_masculinity_and_developing_an_alternative_approach_using_ethnographic_evidence

Tell me I’m wrong.

Tell me it isn’t the low SES. Or newly low SES.

Women don’t do this because we aren’t dumb. We take up a vice like alcoholism to numb the pain.

Men need to learn coping strategies when their parents and teachers’ lies about being special collide hard with reality. Its name? Dunning Kruger.

Special people don’t need to be told. They do the work and get the shekels.
The failures look for excuses and self-pity is a disease. It’ll kill you. By making you kill yourself.

The MRAs are wrong on this, the response should not be the learned helplessness of victimhood and rumination  (proven to cause depression).

Nobody can break through their male pride if they refuse to admit a problem. These are adults we’re talking about, and thus they are responsible for seeking the free treatment (in Europe) available. We shouldn’t be treating grown men like babies, that’s part of the problem. If we treat them as weak, they’re more likely to kill themselves.

We need to empower them with coping strategies and life plans so they don’t feel aimless, useless and like failure is a permanent state. They need to use CBT to come up with new goals since the old ones were based on delusions.

Want someone to blame?  Look to their You Can Do No Wrong and Failure is Impossible parents.
That is irrational. They have false beliefs making them feel terrible about themselves.

Was de-criminalizing suicide a bad idea?

I’m thinking aloud on this one but the numbers don’t add up.

This also pertains to cultural decline theory.

Suicide Act 1961 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/9-10/60
Ruling self-murder somehow legal, one of the most liberal policies in history and all passed with pathos. Self-murder became legal before the death penalty was abolished in 1964. What slippery slope?

suspicious eye narrowing

Ethically, why should killing a body you don’t own be illegal, yet killing the one you’re responsible for be absolutely fine? Where’s the deterrent? Why is hanging illegal for the Government to do anymore but a-OK in one’s own home? If there’s no link between murder and suicide, how is murder-suicide a thing? When the act (actus reus) and the mindset (mens rea) of murder are exactly the same, but the target is different, how is this not murder? Why is killing a person suddenly meant to be acceptable?

They can argue with nothing but emotional appeals.
However, this is no excuse. You can’t kill your boss because you hate him.

Well, we have the data now, where’s the evidence it succeeded? I cannot find any. Nobody wants to collect the data, it reminds me of climate ‘science’. If anyone has time trend data for total numbers, please direct me. It seems like the people responsible for gathering it are hiding it. I found a grand total of 1 (one) study, and it wasn’t even on total numbers because it’s the Question Which Must Not Be Named.

suicideratesamesincelegal

Red line I added for 1961, when legalization passed.

from http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/39/6/1464/F1.medium.gif

You would expect to see rates drop in the late 19th and 20th century with psychiatry. Considering these tools, there should be less suicides altogether because the people who would have done it are being treated. However, not only does the rate remain constant, but considering the availability of various medications and treatments for free, combined with the ability of doctors to bring back more people every passing year, the number of potential/willing suicides must be higher to sustain the previous levels of completion.
from http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/39/6/1464/F2.medium.gif

suicideratemaleratiowhenlegal

Note: 19th century data didn’t have the psychiatry tools to treat mental illness, the largest cause of suicide by far. Why did more women want to kill themselves during the heyday of feminism?

Source study: http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/39/6/1464.long

It does also dismiss a common manosphere myth: men have always been a higher suicide (self-murder) risk as long as records have been taken i.e. you cannot blame modern society, it is a feature of male nature as a trend stable over time and the violence (all counts higher in men too, I’m sure that’s a coincidence) happens to be self-directed. The study concludes the changing risk profile of men is due to mental health,
dismissing another manosphere myth i.e. men are in fact the more mentally ill sex. Here’s the definitive proof, because you can’t get more crazy than offing yourself. Why do men feel useless? Well, suicide dropped sharply during times of war. Read into that what you will about innate male purpose versus the MRA bitching about disposability.

What seems to have reduced the male suicide rate? The Sexual Revolution.

“The male rate was consistently higher than the female rate over the entire time period, although the male-to-female (sex) ratio rose from 3.3 in 1861 to 4.0 in 1886 and 1906 and subsequently declined steadily to its lowest level (1.5) in 1966 before increasing again to around 3.9 in the mid-1990s.”

I’d love to see a breakdown of suicide by SES. I’ll bet it’s the gamma, delta, omega etc. The failures. The losers.

Don’t see many successful people doing it, do you?

OT: Look at this American chart of suicides.


It seems people want to check out before the system collapses.

Living American men have never had it so good, the MRAs are being intellectually dishonest again in their bitching. They avoid the question: bad compared to when? They’re expecting equal outcomes as much as the feminists, except they want to blame feminists for the actions of a third party. Well if third parties are responsible for the actions of an agent, I guess all men are responsible for allowing the rapists in their midst to continue raping? See the faulty logic yet? I mean, you’re allowing it to happen, which is, apparently, exactly the same as causing it.

Kevin-Hart-Really-o rlly lies

Back to the economic bailout, checking out before the economy kills you anyway (this would explain male failure in his provider gender role i.e. you cannot think the provider role is good and then complain about failures or in metaphor, make an omelette and complain of broken eggs). For every standard, there will be losers.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2014/11/25/are-we-reliving-the-1930s/#655f8bac3a6c

From wikipedia (sorry, data is oddly hard to find);
“Researchers and sociologists have identified several causes for the high rate of suicide in the country; these include recent recessions, unemployment, austerity measures and loneliness. Research undertaken by The Samaritans suggested that mental-health issues of middle-aged men and loss of masculine pride and identity are also
major factors behind the high rate of suicide.”
And the manosphere, while bemoaning the suicide rate, blames women….
Rather than address the known issue, proven by data: their pride (code for narcissism).

Maybe their ego is causing that loneliness issue?

Article: Genius and Suicide (1893)

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Popular_Science_Monthly/Volume_42/January_1893/Genius_and_Suicide

WINSLOW, in his Anatomy of Suicide, says, “A person who accustoms himself to live in a world created by his own fancy, who surrounds himself with flimsy idealities, will, in the course of time, cease to sympathize with the gross realities of life,” and any one who will take the trouble to read the biographies of men of genius will see that this statement is borne out to a remarkable degree. Probably the most striking example of this doctrine, as well as the most pathetic instance of suicide in the annals of literature, is found in the records of Chatterton’s short life….

They were refreshingly brutal about it.

Evidence is not lacking to warrant the assumption that genius is a special morbid condition, and the anthropological school of which Lombroso is the brilliant master is daily gaining converts. Although the doctrines which he advocates have recently received a remarkable impetus, they are not essentially new. Centuries ago Seneca taught that there was no great genius without a tincture of madness, and Cicero spoke of the furor poeticus. It is also more than a hundred years since Diderot exclaimed: “Oh, how close the insane and men of genius touch! They are chained, or statues are raised to them.” Lamartine speaks of the mental disease called genius; Pascal says that extreme mind is akin to extreme madness; and everybody is familiar with Dryden’s couplet:

“Great wits are sure to madness near allied,
And thin partitions do their bounds divide.”
Tut. From the herd perspective. They have to tolerate you lot.

Am I the only one who did the reading rdj tony stark

FI
Don’t worry, these are very short.
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/deviance/degeneration/lombroso/10-9-0%20lombroso.htm

loss of moral sense, morbid vanity” – oh yes.

Degeneracy is often combined with the illusion of genius (narcissism) via that vanity and enabled by the skewed moral priorities, almost always hedonistic (the original hedons actually had limits).

http://www.bbk.ac.uk/deviance/degeneration/lankester/10-14-0%20lankester.htm

“Lankester’s oft-quoted definition of degeneration was ‘a gradual change of the structure in which the organism becomes adapted to less varied and less complex conditions of life’”

Going soft.

That awkward moment when Wagner is degenerate.

http://www.bbk.ac.uk/deviance/degeneration/nietzsche/10-5-0%20nietzsche.htm

Easiest way to tell a genius from a narcissist?

The narcissist will never commit suicide – it would be killing the only thing they ever loved. They’re cowards and the type to beg and cry for their life, whatever their crimes. The type to think begging and confabulation are ‘clever’ manipulations.
The genius will die for something greater than themselves, which the other cannot conceive and labels stupidity, often perverting Darwin in course (having never read Darwin, clearly).

Degenerates have inferior evolutionary fitness only suitable for a decadent society, and only capable of speeding in that direction of entropy (developing chaos). They are unfit for the honour of parenthood.

http://www.bbk.ac.uk/deviance/sexuality/allen/14-1-5%20allen.htm

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Such hope.

Video: European suicide and invasion (with open gates)

Spread it.

UPDATE: https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%2078/volume-78-I-1021-English.pdf

For those in any doubt about the probability of trials once this is over;

Article IV Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals.

Article 3 being;

Article III The following acts shall be punishable: (a) Genocide; (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide ; (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide; (d) Attempt to commit genocide ; (e) Complicity in genocide

you're fucked lol tilda constantine gabriel

Link: Transgenderism, a pathogenic meme

http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/transgenderism-a-pathogenic-meme/16363

…A rare issue of a few men—both homosexual and heterosexual men, including some who sought sex-change surgery because they were erotically aroused by the thought or image of themselves as women—has spread to include women as well as men. Even young boys and girls have begun to present themselves as of the opposite sex. Over the last ten or fifteen years, this phenomenon has increased in prevalence, seemingly exponentially. Now, almost everyone has heard of or met such a person….

autogynephilia, my money’s on a porn addiction aetiology

At Johns Hopkins, after pioneering sex-change surgery, we demonstrated that the practice brought no important benefits. As a result, we stopped offering that form of treatment in the 1970s. Our efforts, though, had little influence on the emergence of this new idea about sex, or upon the expansion of the number of “transgendered” among young and old….

First, do no harm.

 The photograph of the posed, corseted, breast-boosted Bruce Jenner (a man in his mid-sixties, but flaunting himself as if a “pin-up” girl in her twenties or thirties) on the cover ofVanity Fair suggests that he may fit the behavioral mold that Ray Blanchard has dubbed an expression of “autogynephilia”—from gynephilia (attracted to women) and auto (in the form of oneself)….

oh shit damn fuck hell no give up dean winchester  shrug

But the meme—that your sex is a feeling, not a biological fact, and can change at any time—marches on through our society. In a way, it’s reminiscent of the Hans Christian Andersen tale, The Emperor’s New Clothes. In that tale, the Emperor, believing that he wore an outfit of special beauty imperceptible to the rude or uncultured, paraded naked through his town to the huzzahs of courtiers and citizens anxious about their reputations. Many onlookers to the contemporary transgender parade, knowing that a disfavored opinion is worse than bad taste today, similarly fear to identify it as a misapprehension.

Fear being the operative word.

I am ever trying to be the boy among the bystanders who points to what’s real. I do so not only because truth matters, but also because overlooked amid the hoopla—enhanced now by Bruce Jenner’s celebrity and Annie Leibovitz’s photography—stand many victims. Think, for example, of the parents whom no one—not doctors, schools, nor even churches—will help to rescue their children from these strange notions of being transgendered and the problematic lives these notions herald. These youngsters now far outnumber the Bruce Jenner type of transgender. Although they may be encouraged by his public reception, these children generally come to their ideas about their sex not through erotic interests but through a variety of youthful psychosocial conflicts and concerns…

This is how they recruit sexually. Trannies tend to sleep with one another (HIV rates, drug use). This is how they get plenty of fresh meat to sleep with in 10 years, when they’re nice and psychologically vulnerable. It’s sick.

First, though, let us address the basic assumption of the contemporary parade: the idea that exchange of one’s sex is possible. It, like the storied Emperor, is starkly, nakedly false. Transgendered men do not become women, nor do transgendered women become men. All (including Bruce Jenner) become feminized men or masculinized women, counterfeits or impersonators of the sex with which they “identify.” In that lies their problematic future.

When “the tumult and shouting dies,” it proves not easy nor wise to live in a counterfeit sexual garb. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over thirty years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to fifteen years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to twenty times that of comparable peers…..

Read the whole article, it’s top-shelf.

For all the hate I get about ‘hating’ them, I’m actually trying to save their lives.

Trans-abled, now

Don’t give them ANY Government entitlements and I bet the desire would dry up.

http://takimag.com/article/trans_fixed_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz3cIbL3cIW

The reason this came about is simple.

We recognised feels (“personal experience”) as objective merit on knowledge of a subject. It’s emotive epistemology.
Just because you have the flu doesn’t mean you know what that is better than the Doctor treating you or the microbiologists studying its replication or the geneticists mapping it. It’s a form of pseudo-objective onanism, a virulent strain of Daddy Issues.

I’ve noted in SJWs they seem to think of themselves as the supreme authority figure on all subjects purely cos they have an internet connection on Mummy’s Gov money and an illiterate, emotionally-incontinent opinion, which often leads to such WTF moments as suicidal people giving out life advice. These people should be locked up for fraud and I’m not joking. These subjects are serious business and they’re misrepresenting themselves as an expert to vulnerable people (a legally binding term).

Teach logical fallacies in schools and this bullshit would go the way of the Dodo.

who are you people

We should have the strength to look the person in the eye and say “shut the fuck up, you have no idea what you’re talking about.” Yet we haven’t. And now we’re here.

mfw I hear these types of people every single day;

discomfort hmm really surprise unexpected lestat IWTV

Who do you think you are? ~ a polite alternative.

SJWs finally kill someone as pro-equality man commits suicide after “racism” monstering

http://www.timesofisrael.com/civil-servant-commits-suicide-after-facebook-accusations-of-racism/

“The personal and media attacks on him, without proper examination, are simply horrifying,” Diskin wrote. Ronis, he said “is entirely the wrong target for such an attack on the web and in the media.”

Bring back criminal libel.

if you dont shut your mouth i will kill you patrick bateman american psycho

These people need to be stopped, they’re clearly amoral sadists who get a sick thrill out of their perpetual outrage. Going after one person after another, it’s like a form of serial killing, but since they’re verbally abusing people into an early grave, it doesn’t count on the record. I know one who was bragging recently about how two her friends attempted suicide in the past year and she was sure the next one would succeed (and certain there would be others). They get off on it.