The psychology of crybullies

https://blogs.psychcentral.com/narcissism/2017/01/playing-the-victim-aka-emotional-cutting/

Provoke.

Cry.

Relief.

It’s a coping tactic, it’s their catharsis.

Punching down, in effect.

“I’m the Real Victim Here TM.

They don’t want to learn to connect any other way.

It would be more obvious with physical violence. The parent or teacher who says I don’t care who started it is being unjust. The problem will recur because the instigator is not fingered.

Abuse, rage and SJWs

Minor points. I saw a woman having a particular problem and this is an expanded version of what I told her.
Rage is a choice to hurt others because one’s feelings are hurt in a perceived slight. There is no such thing as ‘out of control’, you are not possessed. We may feel an urge to jump off a cliff, but it’s just an urge.

SJWs are not offended, they are outraged. Narcissistic rage, to be precise. If Trigglypuff were a 300-pound MMA fighter, would her tantrums be harmless? Funny? This is not funny, whoever exhibits this behaviour. It is very serious. Even children are capable of crime up to murder. This should be mocked but not tolerated and never considered harmless. It’s antisocial behaviour. It’s verbal abuse and all sorts of other related things, including intimidation, an attempt to control by threats (in this case, to lose their rag).

It is entirely conscious, and in fact, planned.
They plan to do these things, and hence, when thwarted, seek revenge.
Common sense: You don’t seek revenge for accidents.

First stop: gaslighting the victim into thinking they’re abusive for reacting with boundaries. Called playing victim. It’s a version of playing dumb. It’s a bluff in poker terms. Turns into a game of Who Started It, as if that justifies any form of abusive behaviour (no, never). They are children emotionally. Do not pity them, do not help them. In fact, it’s healthier to punish them but by omission, cutting them out. Get the police involved, narcissists despise authority. Cut off supply, get justice the honest way afterward. Stop them victimizing others but do not gossip. Best done by law enforcement. This isn’t school, you need to snitch.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/traversing-the-inner-terrain/201205/is-rage-choice

The violent toward those they claim to love cannot express love. They may not even feel it (psychopaths). They can feel relief from control over something external to compensate for their weakness, the power dynamic they ‘confuse’ for love, and also call their inner issues a matter of external cause (e.g. you made me hit you for misbehaving, as if they’re your parent instead of an equal). Rage is a red flag to do something. Before civilization, this meant killing the threat. We are not like other animals. We all have control, this cannot be denied. If you are an adult and have the privileges, like driving and voting, you have duties too. There is no excuse for abuse.

If they deny their agency with excuses, they belong in an asylum because obviously, they cannot take care of themselves and present a danger to themselves and others. 

Repeated provocations are common so they have a legal defense. Report these people for provocation and watch them run for the hills. I’ll bet there’s a long list of people with similar complaints, seek them out and file together.

Don’t play parent, you are not responsible for such people. They are adults. They need to stop leaning on other people and check themselves into some therapy. If they refuse therapy, it’s just another ploy to keep control.

There is no such thing as Magically Disappearing Agency. It doesn’t fluctuate, it’s there or not. Either you are responsible for ALL of what you do, or you should be in State Custody, in therapy or prison.

I thought I’d post this quick one before I go.

Video: When male feminists drop the mask of sanity

4:52-5:17

That’s it.

That’s what they’re really like.

Such progress, with the whorephobia and insulting an innocent woman to get at a man.

If you think they would never do this to a woman, you would be wrong.
I have experienced this in real life when I dare disagree with them, a man boy.

There are misogynists in the world, but most of them hide behind the label ‘male feminist’ like a boy hiding behind his Mother’s apron. They blow their top because there are women they can’t control or fool.

I’ve noticed they’re even cowards when doling out threats. Instead of laying claim to it “I want to/will X” they will make it passive and say something like “I hope X happens to you” so cancer is common, also being raped, or “You do X” like suicide to cover for the fact they want to murder you (subtle) or some projected self-loathing like “If you died, nobody would come to the funeral” – they like that one. I laugh at that because ‘if’, like yeah, we could die…. or we could choose not to.

Pointing out this passive-aggression is the source of all their lives’ problems goes over well. I usually make it clear their conceit (disagreeing with me is a capital crime) doesn’t match their averageness. They hate being reminded of their averageness.

My advice for redpill women out there?

There is only one thing you can do. Let them run. Let everyone watch what a disgusting person they are, as they threaten to rape you and torture you (in public) in ways no sane person could come up with on the fly, and maybe film it. For the police. Seriously. They can lash out. If they demand a response, mildly amused mastery in your voice at their “true misogyny” is the way to go. Poker face. It confuses them that you aren’t scared, they erotically get off on your fear.

I’ve seen feminist groups ostracize men on the basis of these performances against me. In disgust. They’re that bad.

Women: please stop negging us, it doesn’t work anymore

TLDR: Because everyone’s doing it, all the time, and it’s bleeding obvious.

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http://mattforney.com/girl-explains-not-pick-girls/

Because at least ninety percent of the messages I get use negging. And more negging. And pretty much just that, aside from some painfully unfunny banter. Banter is great—it’s what we used to call “conversation”—but you need to do it for more than two floppy sentences before you start firing random insults.

Which is why I hope these guys are just experimenting, because it’s fairly safe to assume that they know I know that negging exists. And here’s the thing: once a girl has even the sketchiest idea of what game is about, you can no longer depend on the rules to keep working the same way.

It’s literally the One Thing everyone knows about game at this point.

Negging, for example, is supposed to bring results because it reduces a woman’s status, or her perception of her status, so that you seem higher in status by comparison.

I wonder how these guys make friends?
Do they go around insulting everyone on first meeting and keep who’s a punching bag?

However, if she knows that this is the purpose of negging, and she knows you know that, then negging is essentially telling her: “I think you’re too good for me, and I’m trying to bring you down to my level.” That is about as sexy as socks with sandals. And cargo shorts. You can argue logically with that all you like, but you can’t argue with results, or lack thereof.

Everyone with an internet connection knows that by now. And peacocking but that’s hilarious, keep that up.

If you tell a girl you hate the way she looks, she won’t fancy you. Since attraction is physical. A man who attracts her will be one who likes her “Look” – a very personal thing. You’ve killed your chance with her.

If you tell a girl you hate her, due to some transient quality – she’ll believe you. And avoid you, either for judging you or because she prizes that thing. Because that’s what you do when there is awkwardness with a random (and negative sexual tension btw).

Here’s my personal favourite;

If you tell a girl she’s not good enough for you, which every single woman in the West has heard because of the absolute popularity of that one form of negging in media, if she has a brain she will scoff and you’ll complain about a bitch shield. Basically the type of attitude you’ll have created is –

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From what normally might be a nice girl.

We’ve heard it so much, always (deeply ironically) from ghetto rats or lower-class trash, it doesn’t work anymore. Sometimes we’ll assume you’re autistic or joking and just laugh, awkward. Planning a means to leave and never, ever speak to you again. And you choose this time to ask for numbers?? Can’t you see how ridiculous you are?

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The high-value ones don’t need to announce their value, let alone compare themselves to a woman, that’s what effete boys do. It’s become a DLV. If we can’t see you’re high value, you aren’t. Insults just make you look bad and give us social license to match you.

It assumes so much it’s ridiculous. That a woman can be judged on sight, Sherlock-style, that you formed that opinion regardless of your own value (sure, if your James Bond and a total 10 yourself, use it, that would be dynamite, otherwise I don’t think so, especially from a 7 or below it becomes highly amusing like watching a little kid tell you they could beat you up) and the autism-like trait of voicing that very rude opinion (definitely a No-Go in England, at least) doesn’t attract anyone. It’s supposed to be a (puerile) response to the girls who say things like “You wish” and “In your dreams”, which, if you’ve been drooling at her and staring on the Tube, is a totally fair rebuff. We have social rules for this reason, like calling any man invading personal space on purpose or taking body pics for masturbation a ‘creep’, it’s more descriptive that happens to be an insult if you do those things. You can actually get banned from the Tube for example, if you do it to enough women and they report you. There are police lines set up for this sort of thing, harassment like this it’s so common, which dumb American tourists should be told about if we didn’t expect you to behave to First World standards…

That’s deserved creep status, for example a Tube carriage isn’t a club nor should ever be treated like one, we’re there because we have to be, our social rules (in England at least) highly respect space and privacy especially in a metal can under the ground which has been used for terrorist attacks. You forgot? Yeah, we wish we could. Yeah, it’s got that cultural significance to it, that reverence, remember, and show some damn respect. Respect the cultural differences and don’t blame us when you’re arrested. American Negging is like the topping for what is already a shit sundae. It’s like walking up to a person to tell them you’re ignoring them – childish (beta-seeming) and pathetic. I tend to say “Yet you wanted to talk to me………….”

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Yes, I get this a lot.

It confuses them. They know I’m onto them. Then I walk away, if possible. They never follow from shame.

The problem with game, and negging in particular, is that it only works on insecure or damaged girls. 

A regular woman with a sense of self (aka what’s normally considered quality) will simply see it for what it is – an overt, pitiful, public attempt at emotional abuse/blackmail to foster dependence. Despite the material on Dark Triad for professional applications, regular/good women don’t want that, or there’d be no single men in prison. Again, it only works on the messed-up ones. So don’t blame the girl because you spit shit game, son. 

If you read Hare’s work on Dark Triad (really the definitive coverage) you’ll notice their personal lives are shit. In every case, it’s part of their condition. There’s a reason for that. The gains only apply in a corporate framework, which most in the manosphere don’t have, especially real MGTOW.

It’s like avoiding a street magician. You may like the odd card trick, but you feel you’ve seen it all before.

Personally, if any random bloke who was previously trying to flirt begins to insult me, I insult them right back viciously and tell them to go fuck themselves. That’s the British tradition, we’re allowed to match the rudeness of those “starting on us”. The British have a series of frames all our own, a British girl likely won’t buy into it because she sees it for what it is, we practically invented the concept with British humour e.g “who are you, mate?” is a typical British response, from men and women, to somebody overstepping their boundaries and imposing their frame. It’s been putting people in their place for centuries. I don’t date rude people, period, and insulting someone you just met, especially someone you’re supposed to like, makes me wonder what terrible company you’ll be later on.

Oh God I made eye contact with the social fuckwit losers.But hey, I’m psychologically normal, so I guess that’s the response you should expect to public verbal abuse. Online you’ll get a ‘lol no’ and a block. Don’t dish it if you can’t take it, as we’ve seen with bitchy male Tinder responses to a taste of their own medicine, because women are naturally better mindfuckers than men. This is how women fight, you’re playing a woman’s game.
Just hope no male relatives or friends are with me or your mark when you try it on. They don’t stop at verbal barrage like me. 😉 Hope you didn’t need that face for anything.

Btw, all of this I just explained is why Roosh hated London. Fair play, don’t bother with us. Our politeness conventions and etiquette are the sworn enemy of Game.

All the nice, pretty girls are hidden away at private parties and no, I won’t tell you where.

Projection, envy and monstering (character assassinations, slander)

http://masksofsanity.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/projection.html

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This is exactly what they do, I’ve found recording their lies and inconsistences to be especially helpful. I have a particular distaste to the religious examples, but it does befit the CHINO.

For example, narcissists always project to me that I am;

  • arrogant – when I’m among the most humble people you could ever meet, I don’t think I’m that important at all
  • mean – when I’m trying to give them advice to make them happy after being very patient or simply stick in my position on a topic and refuse to “see their (wrong) side” aka fold and agree obsequiously for their ego
  • and the best of all, stupid, and they pretend to mock me – when I disprove their vapid points on every count and everyone else is, in fact, laughing at them.

It’s one of the best ways you can tell you are truly intelligent, because a stupid narcissist will always think everyone else has the accusation of stupidity as their greatest weakness as well. They will state the opposite of the truth, making up character flaws, trying to cause doubt which develops into a neurotic complex (if you believe the best thing about you is the worst you will believe anything else they tell you), perhaps a condition they fuel up to suicide (why they say “please kill yourself”). They’ll bitch about you behind your back, but that’s a sign you’re doing something right, as they wouldn’t dare confront you to your face, like an adult.

I know I am not any of those things because super-empaths, Nature’s mirrors, really like me, they find me chill and serene (unlike the narcissists, who sometimes try and call me angry, piping-hot with rage, when I’m more, at most, like irritated at a buzzing fly in my face).
It’s difficult to take those people seriously when you’ve been told by some expert authority figures (many in psychiatry) how one is the complete and total opposite of these flawed, pathetic creatures, and how refreshing that is. “Too honest” is my fave. As if that’s a real thing.

Think of it from their perspective.

They want to be positive things A, B and C. Desperately. Their whole life has been leading up to it.
They come across someone who is A and it irks them. They make snide putdowns about how being A is “fake” behind their back. Fake nice to their face.
They come across someone who is both A and B. This angers them and they try to bring this person down to their level of misery by turning their greatest strength against them – you’re not *really* AB, they’ll say, you’re the opposite, the universally hated XY, and you should feel guilty and hate yourself for being those things.
They come across someone AB and C. Rage fires on all cylinders. This person must be destroyed, or if not, cast from even their peripheral vision (i.e. urgh, I’m trying to forget <person> exists). They become bitter, vindictive, spiteful, and if this is responded to accordingly by the victim, yes, they are a real victim to this damaging monster, it should show up to their friends as an alarming lashing out. The narcissist will blame the victim, of course, it was their fault. They are normally the opposite (a sort of reverse projection again to look saintly). If the friends help purge the evil influence, which makes them act in a way that scares their friends, they won’t be angry anymore and need to take it out on anyone (including, the friends who refuse, implicitly). This causes monstering. “Nobody likes you”, “The world is a terrible place with you in it”, and “kill yourself” are all the things they believe about themselves. They have no logic behind them, unless it’s twisted beyond recognition.

If you happened on this page because one of these is after you, you have my sympathy.

You are the Victim. You can’t handle them. You must kick them out of your life, which revokes their power to ruin yours. When you’ve made it clear it’s over, they will expect you to crawl back (they’re narcissists) over the broken glass they made with your own pain. If you still have friends in common, the best revenge is to let those friends know how happy you are, since the narcissist will fish for this information.