When the rapist is the victim

The PUAs don’t talk about these cases.
Was she asking for it?

If men won’t defend us, and women can’t defend ourselves….

oh, but White Knighting is so terrible, because obviously white people can continue to exist if you allow the schoolgirls to be raped by rapefugees. You pathetic excuses of men sicken me, as scared of the label ‘white knight’ as the lefties are of ‘racist’, except there’s an obligation to defend your own and you know that.

Don’t finger point at the Sexual Revolution, no, it’s the fact she can vote, that bitch. Everybody should belong to everybody else, right?

False rape accusations are proven that way through a judge, not some random’s opinion. To automatically assume spotlessness based on sex is what SJWs also do for their own e.g. pedo teachers. If it weren’t for the assumption, post-Rev, that all women ‘want it’, that rhetoric wouldn’t fly. That’s just demeaning, women are not the sex that frequent hookers.

There’s a sick twist recently. A white woman is assumed whore until proven decent. Oh, like every man is a rapist until proven male feminist? Sexist pigs, in both cases.

The greatest enemy of the white woman is the white male who refuses to acknowledge a responsibility to stick up for her against the outgroup, even when, in cases like this, it’s clear as crystal. It’s one thing to be a misogynist, I hope you die alone, but it’s another to pretend you care and then be a coward in the name of your sex.

I’m sure the brown dude was the real victim here because he happened to own a penis. Eventually, they’ll come for you too and then how u gonna cuck for them?

Yeah, it’s the evil white women. Ignore the fact most of the anons pushing that line aren’t white and salivating at the prospect of the women you’ll abandon for their clutches. But they start with the women, then they come for the men. If you studied history.

Problem is, would we bother speaking out in defense of men who wouldn’t do the #1 male duty = protection? 

I doubt Western men are capable of it, they sit at home whining about how women don’t fancy them.  psych2go.net/5-ways-women-fall-love/ Women love protectors. Duh?

A shrink on sexual harassment “can’t you take a compliment?”

It’s odd how men will admit women are sensitive about their appearance then continue to attack us on it.

Yeah, that’s bullying. Even in school, that is not flirting.

A delightful, common sense explanation.

In before autism;

If you DON’T ‘believe’ in sexual harassment – go to a gay bar on a Saturday.

See how long you last.

That is a woman’s life.

Men are lecherous pigs, regardless of sexuality. What does a lecherous woman look like? A man.

Since any reading this and disbelieving are cowards, simply ask every woman you know and care about (assuming any stuck around you) about their experiences. There are always experiences, regardless of ‘age’ and seeming ‘fuckability’. Don’t talk over them excusing it, just ask the question, shut up and listen.

Actually, 9/10 male rudeness is the inability to shut up and listen. There are studies.

OT Rape accusations imply guilt. A totally honest man needn’t fear them.

https://www.jeunesepayne.co.uk/single-post/2016/11/07/Sexual-Harassment-%E2%80%9CCan%E2%80%99t-you-take-a-compliment%E2%80%9D

“When someone shouts across the street at me “show us your cunt”, or even just wolf-whistles, it’s not because they think it’s going to make me feel good.

It’s a reminder that they could overpower and attack you. R-types don’t care for rule of law, Ks are respectful (either ignoring you in public or getting introductions the decent way).
I saw a very right-wing blog post an article about how the author could easily rape any woman he likes.
In quite graphic detail and practically frothing at the prospect. I don’t read that blog anymore.
This was supposed to scare us all straight (and into agreement with him).

Rape isn’t funny to women, it appalls us (ESPECIALLY the conservative ones), it’s worse than murder. Imagine getting castrated, male power stripped and stolen. Rape is worse for women, at the very least for the conception aspect. A man joking about rape is an r-type trying to pass for K (strong). Those are the worst.

When women see a man seriously laugh (not from shock, but enjoyment) at domestic abuse or whatever sexual ‘prank’ is going on, it would be like watching a woman laughing at a man gored on barbed wire in WW1. Our thought is always the same: what if that were me?

This is why women choose compassion in mate selection studies.

Which sex has the blacker humour?

“Can’t you take a joke?”

Is civilization a joke? They make me wonder.

This is why the right wing’s reputation suffers. Manwhores cosplaying Patriarchy. They seem to think it means concubines and slavery, rather than monogamy and industry.

As for the genuine conservatives…

If they can’t fuck it or kill it, they’re probably going to insult it.

It’s not a well-intended or genuine interaction. They’re not even under some misguided impression that such comments will make me want to have sex with them.

Some are truly that stupid.

Thought process as follows:

If I make her hate me, it’ll remind her of my mother/her father.

Presuming all fathers are incompetent (r-selected) as his. Another layer of insult.

Resent women? No! I simply happen to crush and abandon them all by sheer coincidence!
Distrust women? Sure! They made me leave them! Projection’s only real when women do it!

It’s simply an exertion of power. The aim is to get approval or laughter from others, and discomfort or gratitude from me.

That is better known as sadism.

It is caused by degenerate media, especially the supernormal stimuli of HD streaming online porn.
I guarantee you 100% of those males are porn addicts, the female leches too. The testosterone has to go somewhere, they lack the impulse control (hypofrontality) and time preference to do something good with it.

A compliment is something you would feel comfortable giving a man, woman, or child because you believe it would make them feel good. You’re not boosting anyone’s self-esteem by reminding them that, by society’s standards, “you look acceptable enough for me to fuck”.”

There is always the insult that your primary value is whether they’d use you as their whore.

They’re calling you a whore.

That’s what no woman will admit.

You’re soliciting women on the street. As a whore. But at least whores can charge.

They refuse to accept they’re being rude but they wouldn’t say it if children were present. They desperately want attention but project this onto the provocateur (and looking good isn’t an excuse for anything, is it?) although differing tastes apply, so you can’t even hide your attractiveness since they’ll always be someone Into That. [cough pervert cough]
In conclusion, blame porn. Speaking to people like that (a whore) might not even be acceptable in a purely sexual, private interaction. If they’re smart, they’d leave immediately. It’s demeaning, dehumanizing and morally bankrupt, like the source.

Provocateur is a word I use deliberately… it’s never applied to men, is it?
There’s no such thing as Adam Teasing and Taharrush ‘games’ go after… which sex?

Misandrist women avoid men but misogynistic men seek out women.

Hello, the bulk of MGTOW.

They seek women out to punish them [1]  for what is perceived (projection) as the other’s wrongdoing. It’s never them, never examine the self!!!

Sexual predators, sexual sadism.

I guess womb envy comes into it somewhere but mention that after they play the feminist ‘Penis Envy’ record for the millionth time and suddenly the concept might be shaky? [SJWs lie, r-types lie, logic is a lie to them, thinking is K]

1 Who are you? You can’t lose the chub and get a good job, get out of anyone’s face. At least join a church or Greeenpeace or something. A useful Crusade.

I know, I know.

“Yes, but –

What about men?”

…What about the men?

Where are the men when this happens? [2]

Women exist, women are the fair sex. Women will be sexually harassed as long as we live. Men need to police other men, we certainly can’t.

Think too of the racial and class angles.

Is this acceptable as a way to treat people in the first world?

2

Sign of an r-type male: when you defend a woman from attack (and attack it is), you get accused of White Knighting. Yes, but White Knights are a good thing (Ks) and protect other Ks from monsters…

They never speak to men that way, knowing the odds of an altercation. Cowards to boot. Sexual competition makes the rabbit flee. At times, they’ll use the term incorrectly (in defense of another r) as a compliment of her sexual quality (lie) to get her into bed. It uses triangulation, the common manipulation tactic. Are those men crazy? Probably male borderline, it’s under-diagnosed. It would explain their romantic or intimacy issues that can be masked socially to some extent. R-types fear intimacy because it leads to responsibility and commitment, turn-offs. R/K does neatly align with attachment conditions (anxious-avoidant, secure)…. with the Mother (Freud wins).

Another sign “why are women so easily offended?” [3]

Only the ones around you.

Hm.

Yes, it’s definitely us…

all three billion of us, currently. And they say women can’t do maths?

3

Prelude to gaslighting, All women are crazy bullshit. Pathologizing a problem makes it go away!

See also the classic “why won’t women-” do whatever Lord Fauntleroy wants?

Narcissistic entitlement brewing up to rage. Histrionic, effete rage.

Who do these guys think they are?

Short post. I was doing my usual scan and I came across this;

http://www.rooshv.com/we-must-spread-counter-propaganda-to-women

omg shut up stupid dumb idiots argh ahhhh hiddleston facepalm deep blue sea

Title says it all. You don’t have to read it, it’s an example of the mindset.

In Britain, we have the common retort, a rhetorical question Who are you? when somebody without qualification and status begins to get ideas above their station. It’s supposed to act like a short, sharp verbal slap, a reminder that no, you can’t do everything, quit trying. The politer version you’ve probably heard is mind your own business. Now, I’m hardly one of those people staunchly against self-improvement, but we must recognize that the sexes are not, in fact, equal, and therefore, a man can no more lecture women on what we “should” do, than we can lecture men.

In essence, they need to back off. The backlash is happening and we don’t need them nor want them. Clean your own house of the fake MGTOWs and bitchy misogynists who want excuses and sex slaves before whining to us about your list of ‘demands’. We owe you nothing and vice versa. If we’re so bloody terrible and practically Satanic (if you read the article he makes out like we’re all lolloping Liliths ready to steal your sperm and make demonic hellspawn), you won’t mind leaving us the Hell alone, will you? Act in accordance with your beliefs. Like a man.

First issue: you require moral authority to give anybody moral advice, anywhere on anything. PUAs have negative moral authority, they are an immoral authority, from a traditional perspective. Wtf.

Second issue: you’ve never been a woman. OT: I was listening to a Clarey podcast and they started speculating about female orgasm problems. Aside from being incredibly rude and one sided (as if the majority of men who have the same don’t cause it by their porn use), I would never claim that sort of objectivity on a subject which has not and can never affect me, like Erectile Dysfunction. It just seems like they’re taking all the stereotypical, historical male issues and trying to maintain psychological distance from it (that’s called Cognitive Dissonance, kiddies) by kicking women and saying it’s our problem and blaming us and demanding we fix the (often unisex) problems while they kick back and do nothing. That’s called projection. You see, men aren’t rational beings, humans altogether are not rational beings, but men are incredibly gifted at rationalization. As we say, they could sell sand to Arabs. Doesn’t mean you need sand. Rhetorical skill is a negative in a world that values results.

Third issue: A traditional life takes decades to build. You can’t just hop off the carousel and change your mind and think you’re a suitable candidate. This is why Roosh’s ‘Poznan Institute‘ pisses me off, aside from the legal issues of aligning yourself with a European city state, when they’re against doing that without their permission (I would bet money he doesn’t have legal approval and this jibes with the general ignorance of PUAs when it comes to local law, see my post on PUA filming and London law).

Fourth issue: insulting much? Do I need to go into this point? Pretentious? Shallow? Hm? Aren’t we adults here?

superman drinking give up nope

But when women give men girl advice, they look down on us. Works both ways, bitches. Either each has a legitimate opinion on a discrete list of topics, or neither of us has.

Fifth issue: Beware of Little Hitlers. Anyone who seeks to control the lives of others is doing it because they cannot control their own. In the case of the Roosh cult, he wouldn’t DARE lecture them on male issues as if they’re personally responsible. He will never blame men. I challenge him to do a single article where he spends the entire thing blaming men for this Patriarchy dissolving, because women sure didn’t have the political power to destroy it. He spouts the same Polyanna It’s Not Your Fault BS that Oprah, Jezebel and Cosmo do. He simply switches up the pronouns.

For example, from that article where he lets loose his anti-white inner Muslim (it always comes out eventually, he wants to cover up beautiful white women with sartorial sackcloth), here’s the first line.

The structure of mating is determined by women, not men.

Then women are the powerful, dominant sex. Logically the one who sets the tone has the power. Second paragraph;

Unless men control women, they are at whim to what women want.

Oh, they want it both ways. Like the fucking feminists. Women are so weak and stupid we can control their lives. Uhuh. But they want to believe they’re secretly better. That’s got a name, it’s a bloody conspiracy theory. Matriarchy keeping you down. You was Kangs! You built the pyramids! Muh dick > your bodily autonomy, but respect the law because it’s best for everyone!

It is quite literally retarded. It isn’t even wrong. How many do you wanna bet believe they can win arguments purely on the basis of being male? Like a Man Card and oop, they win. Like the feminists who say This is why we need feminism? How many of these spergs probably call themselves rationalists, because they read a bit of LW and got a B in maths once? Cos that’s where all the atheistkult people went. What sort of dipshit appeal to authority is that anyway, like the losers who put MGTOW in their screen name – to harass women online? Sure, you don’t need women, you sure seem to need our attention though and we’re sick of it. You promised to leave us alone now actually fucking do it. Go. Walk out the door. Just turn around now, cos you’re not welcome anymore. Identity politics needs to hang in a gibbet so we can watch it rot. You go off and build your castle (from your keyboard apparently) and see how many women still avoid you despite all the trappings of outward success, not because you’re a man or the system is against you, but because they see you, as a toxic personality, and we avoid the feminists with the same too. Women are the emotionally intelligent sex. Mindfucking is our game, that’s our mode of interpersonal aggression and dispute resolution. This is pathetic meddling like the SJWs crashing the AVFM conference. You’re just like those normalfags. Traditional people don’t need you because we’re self-reliant and genuinely independent. Quit with the megalomania Savior Complex.

The manosphere is deteriorating in quality, the logic has fluttered out the window.

Feminists hate anyone who fucks men, including other men

We have the same reaction to you as the lefty atheists who claimed to be Islam experts overnight after the Paris Attacks, trying to lecture us on what it “really” is and how it “should” be (Hume spins). Your opinion is invalid. Your opinion does not count. You can have it, but nobody will listen to it.

Notice they’re suddenly trying to hop the r/K fence? No. It doesn’t work. Ks have standards. We guard our borders. It’s like they’re switching to saying Pro-Family but have abusive ideas of how a family should be led since their fathers did such a cracking job with them… (you’re not a King, you’re not always right, you listen to your commander in chief and if you make that whip noise seriously you’ll only attract dull co-dependents), it’s a power-trip fantasy. They’re White Knights. They want to save us (traditional) women and we’re the type that, by definition, don’t need help.  Go save a ho, Captain! We don’t want what you’re selling, you can’t buy in with us that easily. They don’t even want to be fathers, they find the idea of fatherhood deeply repugnant (r-types gonna r) and think it’s all the woman’s business. If real Kings can play in Palace nurseries, so can you. You take responsibility for the life you make. I figured out their deal, a while back. I didn’t want to write it up but they actually have a fetish. It’s called an impregnation fetish. That’s why they go on about female rape fantasies (which don’t exist, see post), as projection from their own, yet again. If the woman actually got pregnant they’d run like the little bitch cowards they are, the apple from their own deadbeat absentee father’s tree, while talking up a big heap of bullshit on Patriarchy and how important fathers are. Talk is cheap. Stick around for two decades making a meaningful contribution to society without deferring your agency to the opposite sex or pretending like your little brain controls big brain and maybe people will begin to respect what you say.

You wanna do God knows what on your own time, with your own money, in a way that doesn’t affect me whatsoever?

looking for a fuck to give loki thor 2

Go ahead. I don’t care. You be as degenerate and filthy as your nature compels you. That’s open-minded and that’s tolerance. It’s your soul, your karma, your own life you’re ruining. In fact, I’ll enjoy the show and laugh when it’s called in. People get the life they deserve. You wanna make the wrong choices, don’t go crying to us, Grasshopper, we’ll leave you outside to freeze come winter.

HOWEVER.

You start trying to control free people’s lives like they’re your fucking slaves and you have any rights over us? Die. It’s a human impulse and right to be free and I honestly hope there is a Hell for preachy people like that.

i hope you fucking choke love heartbreak

Going about it in the sneakiest, r-typiest way too (propaganda) just shows up what they truly are. Deceptive rats, which are an r-selected species. Mind your own business, fix your own life. Butt out of other people’s and sort yourself out.

8 ‘worst’ outcomes of #Gamergate, by a White Knight

http://whatculture.com/gaming/8-worst-likely-outcomes-gamergate-scandal.php

8. Sarkeesian quits.
She doesn’t have a real job, but okay? I should care because she has tits like me, is that it?

7. Those who sent the death threats are arrested.
Good. It’s probable certain threats were self-sent by the professional victims. Throw away the fucking key.

6. Gaming websites cease to function.
You mean the ones that insist gamers are evil and dead as a demo? Hip hip hooray!

5. Zoe Quinn leaves the industry.
She isn’t really in the industry, most of her ‘code’ was outsourced. Pathetic example, we need to clean house.

4. Reviews as we know them get abolished.
Calling a game racist/sexist/bigoted isn’t a review. It’s a political conversion rant to feminism. No one who buys the game cares.

3. Gamergate gives up.
Have you been paying attention? He says no one can understand how it happened at this point. No, boy, that’s just you.
The MSM have given up covering it, what does that say?

2. Someone actually gets killed.
Do you believe Jezebel too? Media violence doesn’t increase real violence, you illiterate fool.
Read up on the science. Or start burning books, CDs, DVDs and all other forms of media too.

1. A stalemate where nobody wins.
You’d like that, wouldn’t you? Cannot conceive of losing, even when it’s been happening for months.

Idiot isn't as much a person as a process of doing things wrong

Laurie Penny: In defence of white knights

She’s started using our terms. Heehee.

Trigger warning: Laurie Penny picture, ‘writing’
from http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penny/2014/08/laurie-penny-defence-white-knights

Back in the real world, something fascinating is happening. As men and boys everywhere begin to realise that a society less riddled with rape, sexual violence and lazy gender stereotypes might be better for everyone, less evolved men and boys have started to round on them as traitors.

Wait, isn’t the official feminist line that evolution doesn’t go above the neck ever and stopped dead at least 10,000 years ago?

One common charge is that men who support feminism are trying to be “white knights”, sweeping in to protect women, not knowing that we capricious females prefer the attentions of the bull-necked misogynists who holler at us in the street.

Depends. Which type do women sleep with more?

“White knight” and “beta male” are the most common slurs flung at such men – usually by retro sexists who still think that feminism is all about poor confused chaps getting shouted at whenever they hold open a door for an enormous straw woman. In reality, most women and girls would simply rather that men stopped slamming doors in our faces.

I’ve seen a feminist shout at a man for pulling a chair out and the poor bastard went on to make it up to her …by getting her chair.

What we want – what would delight me, for one – is for us to get to a stage where we hold doors open for other people just because doors can be heavy and we all have our burdens to carry.

The whole thing is like this.
She is too dumb to realize her attempt at satire only communicates her stupidity.

So I’d like to put in a word for the white knights. Making fun of them is how self-satisfied sexists explain away this change in social attitudes. As casual sexism and recreational misogyny become less and less acceptable in mainstream culture [DS: journalism isn’t real life], some people might find it reassuring to think that all of those non-misogynist men out there are merely weak-willed, sex-starved betas, desperate for a bit of sweet feminist loving. [and maybe after she can period-knit him a wool jumper from her vagina] Far more challenging is the idea that men might be supporting feminism because it is the right thing to do – and because they like the idea of not having to pretend to be rigid, emotionally castrated thugs all the damn time.

If you mean real men, they aren’t self-satisfied. Quite the opposite.
How about this: instead of saying what non-beta men are like, make it clear beta feminist males will never get laid for it, because hey, if they’re really there to respect women, it wouldn’t be their goal would it? They’d respect women too much. Set a timer how fast they disappear.

There are certainly times when that is true – often the best thing you can do as an ally is to understand when it’s your turn to shut up and let someone else speak, especially when you don’t have direct experience of the subject being discussed.

The bitch levels are off the charts. Seriously these guys must be desperate.

Real courage is about doing things that are challenging and uncomfortable because you know that’s the way to make a better world. Things such as accepting a higher proportion of women in roles of power and expertise. Or listening to women talking about our experiences of violence and discrimination without interrupting or trying to make it all about you.

I’m a bird (woman) and I think you’re full of it. Does deference come down to who is more of a woman, cos I’d win. I can cook, clean and sew.

The most heroic thing you can do as a man today is to risk your own social status to do what you know is right. In recent weeks and months, I have been watching more and more men and boys take that risk, without expecting any sort of reward, sexual or otherwise, and I think that every one of them is a big, swashbuckling hero, like the feminist women I know. In a just world, we would all have our own theme tunes.

She doesn’t live on this planet, does she? Uranus, Laurie? Do you live up Uranus?

So, to the white knights out there – you can add my sword to your struggle. If anybody does shout at you for treating women as human beings, if anybody gives you grief for defending women online or in person, then I for one have got your back. I will defend you with all the discursive weapons at my disposal and, afterwards, you can get up on my horse and together we’ll ride off to a slightly better tomorrow.

She’s like that kid we all knew at school who tried everything to be cool and it made them the lamest, lowest of the low.