Feminine brain, youthful brain

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/womens-metabolic-brain-age-around-three-years-younger-mens-180971425/

Predictable.

“New research suggests that women’s brains stay energized well into old age, making their brains appear about three years younger than men’s of the same chronological age.”

Given

https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2015/11/07/estrogen-boosts-brainpower-actually/

Linked in first:

https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/01/29/1815917116

Men didn’t evolve to live long, so it isn’t so much remarkable that women live longer with healthier brains but men,  to be competitive with other men in youth and war, age terribly simply because so few would survive there’s no evolutionary pressure.

Some tough choices ahead for the cooties crowd.

Stick to imaginary phantasms of 20th century masculine superiority solely intended to run up credit debt or actually be healthier.

Here comes the academese:

“Researchers remain uncertain why such metabolic differences exist”

EVOLUTION.

“It’s not that women’s brains seem to age slower than men’s,”

Literally is.
Watch the twist.

“Rather, it seems that women’s brains start off at a younger age when they reach adulthood, and they keep that throughout the remainder of their adulthood, basically buying them a few extra years.”

Not how it works. At all.

It’s like saying you start a race at the finish line, words have meanings.

If they’ve reached adulthood, they’ve reached adulthood. You can’t change the meaning to be quantum. Women mature faster (partially from earlier puberty and slower, longer sum development time because of that) and go on to metabolically age better because testosterone is known to burn out the system.

Gradual puberty + lower T = good for long-term brain health.

aka Not women’s fault. Help your fellow men. Maybe that explains why celibates like Tesla (who, let’s face it, probably didn’t masturbate), who kept their T-levels low as a result, lived longer and stayed lucid. Maybe that’s why monks live longer too, staying sharp. Male chastity has observable benefits.

The autobiographies of genius seem to evidence longer average puberty, too. The sensitive kid who’s a later bloomer?

The Victorians called masturbation self-abuse because the compulsion/addiction would tend to be co-morbid with other mental problems, including depression. How many porn addicts are depressed?

And what do they do to self-soothe because (someone) tells them it’s unanimously ‘good for you’?

Even nuns tend to live longer which does point to lower testosterone being a pre-requisite for a long life, neatly explaining why male levels gradually lower. It isn’t like evolution is picking on men. Aggressive animals have shorter lifespans across species. This is the price of being the protector/provider sex.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/men-too-much-testosterone-linked-to-shorter-lifespan-112213

“Overall, men with circulating testosterone levels between 9.8 to 15.8 nmol/L range tended to live the longest.”

Men are entitled to know what their healthy levels should be, study them!

Men age faster cognitively, he’s like a magician trying to switch your attention onto women when there’s a medical problem with men.
Assuming they want to live long and prosper.

Like, sorry, if that’s a sexist assumption.

“Previous studies have found that aging women often exhibit stronger reasoning, memory and problem-solving skills than males of the same age. But it’s unclear whether this trend is related specifically to metabolism or to a different aspect of brain function.”

Hormonal interaction.

“This might mean women are a little bit more resilient to certain aspects of brain aging in general, but it could also introduce certain vulnerabilities,”

Lying liar. Not even one example? How can you try to spin a youthful brain as a bad thing?

Women aren’t so much MORE resilient (although oestrogen helps) but men are MORE fragile.

HELP THEM.

“Having a younger brain for longer could make the brain more vulnerable to certain things as well.”

Still no mention of men? This isn’t a woman’s issue, there’s nothing new here as stated, women already perform better as a known overall finding*, he totally ignores what men need because it involves admitting they aren’t the best at something….

These arrogant men are sex traitors. Their ego won’t let them admit men need help. So have fun with higher neurodegeneration risk because one guy won’t admit he’s not #1 at everything.

Men are not the control group, it’s the mean between both groups.

Basic category error and erroneous maths.

Hubris is a deadly sin. Treating male ill-health like it’s normal will literally kill men.

OT but relevant:

If we took men as the control, the shorter male lifespan is not only normal but hinted at being desirable, you don’t want to change the norm, with women being unusually longer-lived (greater distance from norm). Actually, the average is between the groups, again. The difference from the norm is smaller, easier to broach and bring those below it up to speed.

*Because unlike IQ studies, they can’t conveniently ‘exclude’ the left-side of the male bell curve to skew their findings dishonestly. This happens after they sample from middle-class academia pupils largely from suburban populations, a huge bias/filter itself.

Sure, throw other men under the bus and blame women for biology. Sexism both ways!

Reminder:

Video: The 9 traits of the borderline personality

Male or female.

The instability (emotional) is the BIG one.

Much like a psychopath, they cannot hold down a (healthy) relationship. Bonds between a couple must be stable.

However, like a codependent, they feel they’re nothing without someone, ANYONE.

Stop and start. Stop and start. Lots of small connections, one night stands.

The typical one night stand (m/f) has a far higher chance of being borderline.

Lashing out at anyone rejecting them, however trivial.

Yep, the angry phone number guys. The occasional woman who gets angry if a random man doesn’t want to fuck her. The entitlement.

Borderlines DO NOT DO rejection. It’s a main trigger.

They have no self to fall back on. Obsessed with self-improvement, no identity though. Constantly trying new things that never seem to work out (think Madonna’s looks). Lots of “bad luck” with the opposite sex. Tendency to idolize others, have idols, especially online. They gain a sense of self via this Other. The stans who can delude themselves into stalking, harassing or raping their idol, dangerous people. A courtship disorder is possible or simple limerence at a distance. Feeling a sense of ownership, viewing other humans as objects or property.

Vengeful, rage tantrums, can attempt to justify abuse with some imagined or minor slight.

You provoked me” or “you made me hurt you” or “why can’t you behave”?

That would be the classic “bunny boiler” or “disturbed young man” type.

It’s common to hear, “I own you” …. they actually think this.

Both are big on gaslighting so can be confused with a narcissist, which actually isn’t (usually) as bad.

It’s the men who ask to an abused woman “what did you do to make him hit you”?

Classic BPD, sick bastards. They never man up, nothing is ever their personal fault, even the actions of their own body don’t feel like they belong to them. When they picture themselves as the man (issues with empathy for the opposite sex), they assume the man was never at fault, even if he threatened murder.

They will FIND an excuse to hurt.

“I’m the real victim here”, as the other party is bleeding and traumatized in the corner.

They can seem glib like the psychopath or narcissist and can be at times grandiose with narc features. However, it’s an act, usually in response to attention. It’s fake. Their come-down is when this reality hits them again, which can look bipolar. They claim to be depressed when they don’t want to do something, a lot of small compulsive lies.

A rollercoaster of emotional bullshit. Like psychopaths, they deny their own condition but ALSO spread outright lies about it (we’re nice really, we’re the real victim, we suffer,  pity us, you can fix us etc).

The logical reply is “wait, if you don’t have it, how do you know so much about it?”

This makes them angry. You wouldn’t like them when they’re angry (they can intimidate by threatening this “loss” of temper, which is a deliberate choice to abuse). Adults don’t lose their temper, toddlers do, because toddlers are still developing the brain areas to control it.

Anger isn’t really an emotion, it’s an impulse. They have issues, emotion is quite healthy but being angry all the time is bad for your body. The Bobo dolls study and others show feeding anger makes it stronger and more frequent. “Let it all out” applies to tears, not physical abuse. Angry people get an endorphin rush, abusers enjoy abusing.

Like the psychopath, they study a lot online of how normal people think. They can quote forum posts to act normal or pass for intelligent, to lure in victims. It’s vapid trivia masquerading as knowledge.

A dichotomous view of life that is too shallow to withstand scrutiny.

e.g. all men are rapists/assholes v. all women are whores/crazy.

The common denominator there….

See, they find it helpful to define themselves in terms of what they’re not.

They deny their Shadow Self and project it, it’s stereotypical they claim they’re incapable of that Evil Terrible Terrible Thing. But the Enemy is FULL of it, to bursting! It’s so obvious!

Race they belong to generally but self-loathing can present if encouraged.

Sexism is far more common because of parental issues.

So it’s the misogynist who says

“I’m not sexist, I just don’t trust or believe or respect women.

OR

For balance, the misandrist who says

“I’m not sexist, I just don’t like or rely on or hang around men.”

It can present in so many ways but they’re blind to it, having projected it far, far away from what they believe is physically possible.

Anyone who thinks it’s impossible to be sexist personally, ever, at any point, is living in a bubble. Prejudices exist in all humans.

Being suspicious of all women is dodgy, being suspicious of a seductive woman, taking a sudden, keen interest in you, as warned in the Bible, is common sense.

Being distrustful of all men is off, being distrustful of a man who is insincere and keeps pushing boundaries is survival instinct.

Sexists are just lazy. Within a race, there are too many personal similarities to claim a broad genetic danger.

The psychotic thing is obvious.

“The world hates women” and “The world hates men”.

Obvious bullshit, there’s moderate but clear evidence on both sides (balance) so neither sweeping statement is true. It’s another excuse. Not to try, to abuse the “enemy” group, to get perceived revenge yada yada.

It’s actually:

The world hates (substitute for Self) so I am morally allowed to (do terrible, evil thing).

Like the #KillAllMen or Elliot murder spree fans.

It’s a selfish Crusaderism. If they clashed with that group, say SJW women to anti-SJW women, they’d hate that supposed group they claim to care about, the most of all. Thatcher gets the most hatred of any dead politician because she was a woman. In a sickening display, they got the radio to play “ding dong the witch is dead” on news of her demise. The working class loved her so the Left despise her. Great men and geniuses are envied most by omegas, they plot to literally kill people, other men are just last. It’s like Marx leeching off of Engels, a man who owned means of production. Marx lived off the blood of the worker happily.

These people are dangerous and abusive.
You love the sinner and punish the saint, you are evil. Defending deviants, rapists (of m/f), whatever it is specifically. This is not First World culture. This is childish and bitter. This is anti-justice.

“We’ll show them” they plot.

The world was right to reject them, really. That’s all they showed.

Hot v. Beautiful

Nope, hot does not exist.

That’s Hollywood and porn brainwashing.

It didn’t exist fifty years ago.

There was sultry or alluring but it was a type of beauty, as it should be.

e.g.

That’s natural (whereas mainstream ‘hotness’ is normally plastic surgery, which a biologist has no valid comment on as a fashion trend).

Natural always wins. It’s the genetic billboard.

Nowadays, men are programmed to find the cheap sexual signals of desperation attractive.

Cheap is the correct term because there’s little to no investment required.

It’s obvious with celebrities.

Jessica Alba. Note the manjaw. Hot?

Markle. Again with the manjaw. Hot?

What are you being told to select by media?

The Jewess Johansson, post-nosejob. Hot?

The Jewess Jolie, same. Again, post-surgery and owns a manjaw. Hot?

There’s a reason he didn’t name names or dare show photos.
Hollywood only hires the whores, with manjaws. There’s no control group.

Another chameleon face to illustrate the point:

Which one of those four pictures is hot and how many are beautiful?

I’d say one “hot” and zero beautiful. The hotness is confounded by make-up and hair dye, which he didn’t mention!

Nor did he mention male beauty, which obviously does exist.

I see it all the time.

e.g. Jakob Hybholt. This is a real man. He exists.

Men in studies have different risks of abusing their spouse (aggression) based on their facial features. Again, something you’d think he’d mention?

At least “handsome” (a word that used to be applied to women too) versus “sexy”.

Adonis versus Hercules. Any man who’d get insecure about this is deluded.

We don’t get insecure about Athena and Aphrodite. Typical model versus lingerie model.

But they’re both forms of beauty. Neither is better and it really is a spectrum because both must be fundamentally fit (Darwin) and hence, beautiful. So two sisters, one can be hotter (the “hot one”) and the other more pretty, hot features age badly after ten years as fertile markers and pretty remains constant as a purer genetic quality, easier to pass on to male and female offspring too. Hotness has no history as a concept, as he alludes it’s based in 60s advertising. Surgeons can fake “hot” but never beautiful because it’s genetic and individual. The 60s allowed people to display “hot” but again, that’s a fashion trend, our bodies didn’t magically change.

This evobio guy makes a basic error – you can”t assume modern male preferences are historic.

In fact, basic pop culture evidence from the past century suggests otherwise.

“Hotness” is easier to market.

You can buy hotness, beauty is genetic.

He blatantly lies “the majority of human cultures have been polygynous” is a lie.
A Cultural Marxist myth. Look at a family tree, we have them stretching back a thousand years.

He could possibly get away with polygamous if you included sex slavery (rape).

That is bad evolutionary biology. Sexual selection must be a choice to be valid.

Most tribal humans were monogamous and this is why the sexes are born approximately at 50/50, we keep digging up archaeological evidence of couples. Also, savages are not models of civilization, they keep trying that on.

He could mean serial monogamy if the spouse dies (divorce or breaking up doesn’t actually count as this) but he doesn’t.

Most men are not r-selected, he lies again. If so, all men would visit brothels instead of the omega minority. Parental investment outcomes show this strawman single mother scenario leads to death and dysfunction.

Mathematically, he is lying there. Monogamy is better for male DNA.

No sexual selection without natural selection, many feeble, weak r-selected males died off and now we have “crime” in society because they’re still bluntly, stupidly trying to compete without the reward in a society structure. Wars were invented to cull them but we had to mess that up too with draft qualifications and nukes. Without the dregs of men (see: where have all the good men gone?) removed, they are free to multiply with the dregs of women, producing more dregs than ever before. Previously, those women would die alone with no suitable man.

It’s like pulling up weeds.

Idiocracy could only happen when war ceased being common. Who dies first in battle?

Reproduction is the reward (not sex), for survival.

He hints at the rapist strategy of extreme r-types but dances around it. If men would find sex “difficult to resist” and could overpower a woman, surely that suggests…. that her choice didn’t factor into it?

That’s why he refuses to discuss rapists, which are not a viable strategy actually*. He’s pretending there’s a selection without choice, I’m sick of these slutty intellectually dishonest assholes acting like they’re the model of humanity.

*Women can easily not carry to term by starvation, various herbs in every location, punching themselves in the stomach. Why do you think traumatized women stop feeling hungry? Anti-rape baby instinct!
Witches provided abortifacient herbs.

Men aren’t “wired” any way, that’s sexist and poor science (it’s a limited metaphor not used in this field) and it’s the naturalistic fallacy. Most men are faithful and generally good. They have a natural disgust for easy women.

Broadcasting hotness – is not a thing. That’s sexual desperation, a personal choice, not fertility. Plenty of American men willingly prefer infertile women and women who look like it (swollen breasts as if already pregnant, narrow hips, muscled suggesting high testosterone and manjaw, short legs like a child). Those are typical r-types, both trying to avoid pregnancy.

So as far as an evolutionary biologist is concerned, that sexual interaction doesn’t exist because it’s a dead end.

It’s like counting homosexual sex – that doesn’t lead to babies either!

There’s no life created, it’s nothing to them. Except maybe a disease risk, funny he doesn’t mention STD-caused infertility….

You cannot switch reproductive strategy, it’s neurobiological, ask Anonymous Conservative. Your amygdala volume cannot magically change on a dime.

This guy keeps lying.

You cannot have it all, spoiled rabbits.

There’s a reason manwhores, when they marry, tend to get divorced (or cheat). It’s them.

Neither can you turn a ho into a housewife, same reason. It’s them.

This is why the evolutionary types are distrusted in academia, you must prove you’re not one of these guys that is totally excusing half the promiscuity that is completely novel to society now (with fake history) while claiming from the other side of their face that the other half is impossible (women aren’t sluts – but men are sleeping with them somehow) because of babies that don’t exist. (Pre-marital birth rate says different).

Other, lesser mammals were polygamous, not humans!

He doesn’t tell you this.

It would be akin to saying humans can self-clone because you used to be an amoeba, it’s bad science.

Read The Mating Mind for good evobio.

The concept of “hotness” (sciencey) isn’t mentioned.

This guy might as well be an astrologer. This is cold reading a modern culture and trying to re-write history.

He also misrepresents Freud. Madonna/Whore is a specific complex and has nothing to do with that.

NOTHING.

Madonna is marrying a woman for reputation then cheating on her with whores because the male is too immature to view the mother of his children as a viable sexual and romantic outlet, abandoning her emotionally and sexually in fear. The complex is the split (between socially attractive women to other men and baby-making women at home) and it’s as bad for you as a split personality. That’s it. That’s the complex. It describes a common form of impotence.

They can’t get it up for the wife they chose, assuming childbirth gave her cooties.

Nothing to do with evolution. This guy is full of shit.

Simple question: what is “hotness” without porn?

Do you even know? (no) That’s the purpose of sexual programming. The mind control nobody talks about. Insulting the father figure and telling him housewife types are boring in bed. Old as the musical Grease.

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I’m surprised by this conversation between Joe and Bret. I’ve asked multiple men before if they could see someone as only aesthetically pleasing but not sexually pleasing, and they never could (including my boyfriend.)

True, they were lying, assuming the other could.

Women, on the other hand, always could.

Women are more attuned to appearance in general.
Men don’t notice cuticles.

I can find a man or woman aesthetically pleasing, without seeing them as sexually pleasing. Seems like most men either find them sexually pleasing or they don’t.

If they’re honest.

An erection is a solid binary.

If they don’t find them sexually pleasing, they don’t find them aesthetically pleasing either. ‘I would fuck it or I would not fuck it.’ Lots of guys can’t seem to appreciate attractiveness without it being of a sexual nature. This conversation seems like it’s on similar lines as the question I’ve asked people before and yet both men were able to grasp it. Good on them

Men who can are called gay.

That’s why I laughed when they tried to compete by claiming they could do it.

Sluts are shamed because the entire tribe pays for it. Male or female.

Men have to pay with resources taken from the family or possibly a war in revenge for stealing a woman.

Then there’s disease risk, a major source of the shame is avoiding death and defects.

Many STDs are just passed by social contact and as a touchy species, viruses spread easily with hugs, kisses, grooming common to mammals.

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I personally think the people who use the word hot to describe women are immature and shallow. I have noticed that the more people use words like that to describe people the worse off our future will be.

It’s so cringe-worthingly American, isn’t it? They sound like rappers.

Not just women, if all a man can be is hot, he must be a real loser.

It’s the one thing you can call a vapid moron. “At least he’s hot”.

Women use it this way primarily, it’s our new ‘nice’. It’s a backhanded compliment, like telling someone they could be a stripper. (Tatum)

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These people are so condescending and boring

They think they’re important. E-celebs, aw. Adding nothing to history.

He totally ignored the data on how much women value looks.

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Are these two fools trying to pass off this non-think as if it were based on biological fact? Women have a much greater capacity for sex than men.

Shh, don’t tell them! (They won’t listen anyway, they actually think sex is a male thing).

Imagine if men had multiple orgasms and no refractory period, chaos!

It’s like how they say women get triggered easily but if you insult Rick & Morty…

You don’t see many unstable women threatening to rape men online but okay, women are the mad ones. Okay.

Shallow men, shallow women

“Part of being a man, is having a woman. A Woman, if you can’t do that, you are failing at manhood.”

100% true.

The opposite sex isn’t the enemy, you need them.

Those groups are narcissistic overall, too selfish to be in a relationship with anyone!
They hate people who are happy because it reminds them how miserable they are, that’s why they misuse cuck. A cuck is a man who married a tart and tries to pass her off as better. A cuck can also be a woman whose husband has been the town bike and keeps cheating on her.

Nobody cares if you actually want to be alone. It isn’t a great loss to the world.
It’s okay.
But it’s like the woman who ignores you, you don’t notice and then she comes up to you and tells you she’s ignoring you.
…Good?

Bitchy female tactics don’t work on females.
I don’t want to screw the Mean Girl.

The men who blame women, well, if it’s natural, it’s always been true. In which case, you just hate women. If it’s their choice, why do you want them? Why do you choose to reward them with attention?
Men complaining about women doing the same things they do, is like old people complaining the young men aren’t respectful. It’s always happened. Every time thought this. It’s in various ancient texts.
This time period isn’t that special and neither is any individual. Sitting around passively is ying, it’s what women do. An effete man is like a little boy. They might want to help you but it won’t be an even power dynamic, it won’t be respect, it won’t be attraction. It’s cleaning up your mess. If your life is a mess, clean it up. At least try? Even your own mother wouldn’t be expected to run around after you as a grown man.
The worst MGTOW just want a Mommy figure they can screw… Freudian issues attract nobody normal.
Sometimes they over-estimate their attractiveness (refuse to date their level) – that isn’t Incel. That’s a choice.
Improve yourself and stop obsessing over porn, it isn’t real.

I saw one guy moan about how a girlfriend cheated on him. I pointed out no, she didn’t. He didn’t want her, he hadn’t married her, she owed him nothing. The offer of monogamy and exclusivity and loyalty comes from the man first. He rejected her first. He…didn’t take it so well. He didn’t have a rebuttal but he insisted I was mean to look at it so coldly. …If I walked into a shop and said Where’s my order? and I didn’t place an order, I’d look like a prize fool.

Cheating is a legal term. What did she cheat on, exactly? Empty words? Not even a verbal proposal.
These guys act like a girl committed adultery (Biblical sin)… you weren’t married? WTF?


And if there was fornication, you can’t slap her with the Bible, without hitting yourself too.

Your degeneracy has no right to be respected. You knew it was going nowhere.
Do you really owe a repeat one-night-stand an explanation?

“I’m happy!” the bitter middle-aged men posting on youtube comment sections tell us.
Then why are you here, telling us?
It’s like vegans who make their diet their life.
Not doing something is the focus of a loser.
What is likelier is “I can’t attract what I want but rather than accept my level, I’m going to ragequit dating”.
SJWs do that too, the drama would be perfect narc supply for both of you.
Don’t marry the sluts, m/f, how can that possibly end well?

They have player burnout, that’s the term they use. They’re used-up husks of their former self, they wouldn’t want themselves (sexes reversed) years before. Sexual satisfaction for men suffers with every woman they bed, they make themselves inferior husband material. There’s so much to compare with that by the time they burn out of the pussy parade (it isn’t a choice, it’s aging), they expect some obedient sex slave of a wife to rub their feet.

Their ancestors would spit on them, it’s so denigrating to expect that servile attitude to a spouse, one of the most beautiful connections in life.

They were a sucker. They bought the societal lie they needed to run up debt on clubbing and sex was the ultimate human experience. You’re a casualty of the Sexual Revolution, boys. Grow up and admit it? It’s love, without love, mankind has nothing worth living for and you couldn’t convince a child otherwise.

But…. they’re ignoring us, and we should care.

You attract what you are. If you always attract flies, you’re probably full of shit.

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I DONT NEED A WOMAN, IM A STRONG INDEPENDANT MALE!

Yes.

as an ex-church ex-pentecostal MGTOW who has heard all the chuch BS hearing you quote the bible just makes me mentally switch you off

I wonder why that angry one’s single.

Low IQ men are easy to spot.

Wait, there’s more!

He goes on

The psychopaths in the pentecostal churches just want to force men to do the right thing and marry the stupid nasty devious fem in the pews. I decided I was not going to do that when I was fifteen.

lol

Yes, decisions made age fifteen are famed for their deep wisdom.

How can a woman be both stupid and devious?

If the thug so-called pastors want to talk to me they risk being reported to the police for stalking and harassment. I would love to put some of them behind bars. And your assumptions about what women all the MGTOW want is ignortant, retarded, complacent, and counter-productive.

Pass this little baby a dummy.

You clicked on it, bitch. It’s like a vegan on a BBQ video. What is your life?

Another!

I’m 30…oil field worker …near six figure salary…I’m mgtow all the way and loving every minute of it. Go ahead and man Shame me..it’s music to my ears

I wonder if he wants attention….

We don’t care how much money you have if you’re too stupid to realize life is a marathon and not a sprint.

How old is the oldest MGTOW? Because

I’d have questions.

I would post a tiny picture of a noose hanging from the end of the red line but it would be tacky and I assume you know the statistics on bachelor suicide. When they bitch about male suicide, they never bring up marital status.

Married men are happier, live longer and don’t kill themselves.

Yes, women are poison.

Remember his point about taking responsibility as the #1 masculine drive?

MGTOW is not the flip side of feminism, that would be the Incels. MGTOW are men who recognize the dangers and injustices men face in in our gynocentric/feminist society, and act accordingly to protect themselves. I would argue that most MGTOW would love to have long term relationships and a family, and are more than capable of achieving those things, but the risk is simply too great these days. Don’t blame men for going MGTOW, blame the system for forcing them into this position.

Low IQ, what ya gonna do?

“Social Justice is not the flipside of MGTOW, Social Justice are the women who recognize the dangers and injustices women face in our patriarchal society and act accordingly, to protect themselves. I would argue that most of us would love to have long term cohabitation in sin and deliberately become a single (unmarried) parent and are more than capable of that achievement but the risk of abuse is simply too great these days. Don’t blame women, blame the courts for not believing female victims.”

I mean.

Let’s be logical for five minutes, it might hurt.

You want more women to have children, yes?
You want more mothers. But you don’t want wives.
What makes a single mother single, is that the father didn’t marry her.
He won’t propose. By supporting this, you’re supporting the deliberate creation of more single mothers. For which, the taxpayer is responsible.

We won’t cuck for your sperm farm, hunty.

Another!

MGTOW saves lives.

Did not… do…. the research.

He goes on

” It’s not about realizing how modern laws and media and society brainwash women to be crazy and drunk with power.”

He would deny being a misogynist. Women can’t be sane but he doesn’t hate us.

Watch the r-type try to force you to qualify to him like any kind of moral authority.

If you show me

We can show you a noose?
Statistically, you’ll need it for when you either top yourself or start kidnapping schoolgirls.

a virtuous woman

says the degenerate

who actually

passive-aggressive creep

will be loyal and honest and love me, personally, I

psycho

would gladly have some kind of marriage vows, absent of state authority ruining the whole thing.

What’s wrong with protecting women from abusive husbands?

Or men from wives?

It’s called a commitment, not a half-arsed certificate.

It isn’t like buying a dairy cow.

They’re treating women like an arcade toy. “If you find me this thing, give me this object”. It seems to be autists angry that women don’t want to put up with their mental condition and don’t have to. There are pages going into this abuse from Aspergers husbands, they’re like sociopaths.

And if you are picking on incels, that’s just punching down.

Guys who laugh at rape all over the place and fantasize about young girls?

Yes, we’re bullying them, guys.

Note the gaslighting. Great catch.

I understand the way you see it

accurately?

See, he’s a man so they can’t insult his intelligence or appearance.

~entitled shrieking from the MGTOW~

Congratulations, the SJWs win for every man that no longer wants a family because he’s scared of women. Fewer husbands, wives and kids, they win.

They want the Gender War, don’t give them it.

and grew up with better moral standards, but today it is very easy to be incel. Just be a nerd that is shy.

People who want to be manwhores but can’t… merit anything but contempt?

Another!

I got married young.Age 20. Wife ran off with a doctor soon after. Didnt see it coming.There were no warning signs.They like that money and material things.

Married too young. Moron.
Marry 24+, divorce rate drops for both.
Ah, but they want barely legal flesh, don’t they?

Another! It’s like spot the vegan!

MGTOW don’t diss other guys for dating,

have you read this comment section?

so why do people have to bad mouth us?

They’re actually worse than the SJWs.

The SJWs know they’re ill and take meds. These guys try to convince the whole world it’s crazy and they’re (tic) fine.

It’s a personal choice based on one’s own unique experience.

Using the same lines over and over?

And what experience? You believed a lonely sad blogger’s tale of woe and decided to ruin your life based on works of fiction (or adventures in Asian race-mixing, when they turn out to have been faking the obedient routine and we’re shocked, I say, shocked!).

Most of us just want to be left alone and have no drama. We don’t go around crapping on non MGTOWs.

They don’t even see how stupid they look

Another!

Shaming language against men. Sad. I hoped for better.

What’s your excuse? Are you on your period too?

Men can never be wrong. Shame should be illegal. It’s okay to cry as Barney said because words hurt.

I love those comments in particular (they copy and paste) because they are shaming themselves?

Nobody is allowed to disapprove.

TRANSLATION: F-U-MOM! IT’S YOUR FAULT DAD ABANDONED ME!

Another,

looking for the wrong kind of women eh?

easy, yes

well the right kind are like 1% of girls aka the equivalent of a unicorn

He knows unicorns don’t exist, right?

Good, don’t look for us, never look for us, you aren’t the 1% of men. It is pointless.
This is never, ever brought up. Hundreds of times I read that because the low IQ aren’t original, not once. What is the male unicorn worthy of such a woman?

Another

You don’t get it. Do some more research on it.

Blogs don’t count.

And the “research” I’ve seen on their sites is wrong, twisted or made up.
Literally, they say something very opinionated with no study. Because the studies say the opposite.

He goes on

I don’t agree with all of MGTOW ideologies

uhuh

but they have alot of strong arguments to their physiology. I don’t expect anyone from another generation to understand. You haven’t dated in 33yrs. Time has changed. MGTOW voice is getting louder each yr

tfw to intelligent

A man claiming to be elderly also joins in, but to sound like a 23yo as if his wife were in that age group.

What?

I’m 70,

I don’t believe you.

and I agree with what your saying… separated at 47, divorced 2 years later,

Loser.

3rd wave feminists are a cancer on marriage, and after 17 years looking, in coffee shops, church, office, and dating sites, I’ve given up and gone MGTOW…

You aren’t good enough, the one woman was a fluke.

Did you…. try self-improving? Lowering your standards? …Like the pastor said?

Who wants a 47yo divorced guy? And now he’s 70 and more sour? Sign me up.

It’s like corked wine if we’re keeping that metaphor, the toxic one that’ll make you sick.

I don’t hate women, but I can’t say that good women are laying around like Rubies on the ground, waiting to be picked up…

I wanna leave you and all I did was read this comment.

I picture these guys in the old folks home, still determined they didn’t waste their one (atheists) life being bitter ragequitters. It’ll never stop being funny.

This one doesn’t understand words

So true, it is easy for a man that has been married for over 30 years to make assumptions, heck, even 10 years for that matter. These guys should try to remember the old adage “do not judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes”.

Being bitter and alone isn’t an experience.

Oh, shit.

Most MGTOWS do not hate women. It is a natural response to the Jezebel spirit that most women are possessed by today and the State’s desire to make slaves of men through the divorce/family courts. Until the states get it through their heads that what they are doing to men is a crime

Upholding the law. STFU.

I’m embarrassed for you.

At least the SJWs rally together and go on marches, not one from men!
So most men agree with the system!

there are going to be a lot of crazy women running around and less children.

Fathered by people like you, excellent. That is eugenic.

It is necessary. This country USA has sinned against God and especially men and the day of reckoning has come. We’ll see how powerful our country remains when men decide to no longer participate and be made slaves.

America has never been a powerful country, you can’t even invent your own language.

You’re still a slave to Uncle Sam with your taxes.

Destroying your nation because you can’t get a woman is total, ultimate omega move.

If I had not gotten married I would have had a lot less heartache and been much happier I know

bitch’s intuition?

and more money in my pockets

I don’t think he knows what a marital union is or the male gender role.
The male gender role is to provide, if you won’t you aren’t a man and shouldn’t have taken on the duties.

Your bad decisions had bad consequences. Were you threatened with death to marry? no

instead of lawyers and Jezebel stealing from me. I was married 16 years and tried to do it all the Christian way.

Nothing about this guy is Christian, he sounds consumed with greed, envy, wrath and pride.
The Jezebel spirit isn’t exclusive to women…. demons prefer men?

Stay single men in this backwards generation.

I regret that post. It was clearly a joke because more sexual predators and psychopaths are men and some borderlines are men too but… obviously they missed it.

You’re an atheist cultural death cult, you don’t really believe in this stuff.

A guy with a Muslim sounding name complains

Having a woman these days is like letting a robber into the bank vault or an abusive priest near some children.

Totally balanced healthy adult.

One voice of sanity

Why do people feel they need to fit into a label and words for group to be in?

Because they’re little kids and need a clique.

Peter Pan and the Lost Boys.

A guy with a pathetic name says

You have an incredible disconnect with reality.

Projection, I love it.

Another!

Its 2018 and they’re still using the “man up” argument to deflect your attention from observable reality.

i T’ S    t H E    c U R R e n t     Y e a R

Be a man. Grow up.
Get married. Breed.
Not the same thing. Low IQ QED.

You know who love Pajama Boys and hate the term “man up”?

Male feminists. Go join your people.

They tell happy men their wife is a whore and manage not to be shot between the eyes.
They should be grateful.

Again

What’s this? More shaming language against MGTOW and now trying to equate them with incels? Nice try. Go ahead, shame away. I just don’t care.

See? Copy/Paste.

Again

Responsibility without authority is slavery. You are telling men to become slaves.

No, it’s called being a grown up and paying your dues?

Prissy little nancies.

“Why do I have to move out if I can’t get a mansion!”

Join a Marxist group.

Another

Several times in my life I have had a woman I trusted burn everything to the ground and leave me with nothing because I wasn’t perfect.

Yeah, that was why.

Can’t be that you’re a whiny little kid in a man’s body?

But thanks to women having the vote, they have social policies to support them, they don’t need the men

Vox Day is married, he’s trolling you on The Vote.

If women lost the vote you’d have to go down the mines. National debt won’t pay itself. Men would be on the hook for 100% of everything. And you think that’s better for you? Do you know what percentages are?

Again

“Be a man!” That’s a lot of shaming language.

Tone police. Are you gonna tell him off for swearing too, matron?

Shame is an emotion you feel and should feel.

it’s called a C O N S C I E N C E

If someone said “Be a woman”, I’d be confused because I already am?

It’s cute they think they never have to stop acting like a modern spoiled teenage boy.

I don’t have a problem with woman, I have a problem with the government, and their willingness to help woman destroy men.

Most politicians are male.

I don’t want to live at the mercy of a woman’s whim’s.

Did you select a woman and propose to her?

You can say all you want about “good woman”, all it takes is one bad day and you’re future is out the door.

Yes, that’s how it works.

Because this is the best Joker comic

They’re actually just trying to be a jerk …to another man, the way they would a woman. That is unhinged. They can’t argue, that’s a serious personal flaw.

If I replaced women with men, they’d call it sexist. They’re just like the SJWs.

Nobody gives you rights, they’re NATURAL RIGHTS.

Universal suffrage was a correction of outdated pre-industrial law based on taxation. Read a real book.

To shut women (and poor men) up about various war protests over a century using their tax money, they got the Vote, whether they preferred the untaxed cash or not. Then WW1 and 2 happened.

The bad career choice one is funny. Whatever you do, they hate you. Now they’re turning onto other men, good men, better men, men of achievement and happiness. For trying to help them.

Nearly done

You state MGTOW is not good for men. True. What’s far worse is being used and abused by women and the legal system

If the only abuse you suffer in marriage is legal and in divorce, you are lucky.
“Divorce is ha-ard!” they whine.
Divorce isn’t meant to be nice. Ending No-fault divorce would cause more cases to go against men because many are filed for cheating. Fine, I’d be happy to finish no fault – because someone is always at fault.. but it gives men an unearned boost. They are so short-sighted, it’s almost sweet.

This last one confuses criminals for normal men

There’s a lot of truth in a lot of these comments. I divorced in ’05 after 7 years of marriage. But what really showed me was 2008-2009. There was about 10 highly successful men I knew at the time that lost their businesses. All ended up in divorce. All these men lost everything. They lost their families, kids, homes, etc because the women couldn’t take losing their financial security. “For richer or poorer” only applies to men it seems.

Provider not thief.

You don’t just lose businesses like the TV remote. You gamble. You lie. You steal and cheat.
Anyone would leave knowing he’s probably now in massive debt and will harm the children (school fees?) by staying yoked. Men have one job – finances. Be good with the family finances. You want your gender role, you can keep your gender role.

You cannot complain about your gender role.

For richer, for poorer doesn’t cover – lying and deceiving and going into debt on your joint credit (hers too!) so he could make a quick buck and lie to her about how he got it. That has a name and it’s called fraud. Those women were betrayed. Imagine if she had a secret shopping addiction and while thinking before he had $2 million, and planning his life around that, he was actually $780,000 in debt. That is disgraceful. Divorces used to occur all the time because the husband was lazy, a drunk, abusive, cheating and humiliating her or a criminal. Read up. Marriage isn’t an enclosed pen where you can now treat them like dirt and the law fails to apply.

The fake male co-founder

https://www.fastcompany.com/40456604/these-women-entrepreneurs-created-a-fake-male-cofounder-to-dodge-startup-sexism

That is one interesting social experiment.

To state the obvious.

Misogynistic men only trust other men with their money.

It’s wrong but they have every right, because it’s their money.

The Chinese rent white men for their privilege.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/06/29/china.rent.white.people/index.html

Studies have shown competence is assumed where it is undeserved.

Blame stock images IDK.

Such men consistently over-estimate their competence.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-28/confessions-of-a-confident-mediocre-man/8562708

Surely it’s the arrogance effect? In the modern world we call this vice a virtue.

“a natural tendency to overrate their past performance on maths tasks by 30 per cent”

It’s terrifying how many men rate themselves as good at maths and then I have to explain 12yo level shit.

This finding is old. There are also far more compulsive liars in the male group, which somewhat explains it. In their minimizing terms, this is bluffing, like lying on a CV (illegal).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

OLD.

These people are the reason we blind exams. These people.

Like Is she flirting? studies all over again. Men don’t really do meta-cognition, by comparison.

This is why we have all the psychometrics. Either you can do it or GTFO.

The masculine traits are the capitalist ones: taking risks, being rude or arrogant, stepping on others, ruthless ambition, Crusaderism, many that are probably antisocial if not tempered by other stuff.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12848221

“A meta-analysis of 45 studies of leadership styles showed that women tend to exhibit many of the character traits associated with effective leadership — such as effective communication, a tendency to empower subordinates, and creative problem solving — and are more likely to adopt effective leadership styles than men.”

They’re selecting the cocky guy who relies on underlings to do his work for him. No wonder so many companies are tanking. Everyone, male or female, hates them. They’re drains, they parasite off the productive. A minority in every group or company do the bulk of the work, remember.

The problem is seeing masculinity as successful without anything to back it up on the project.

We need to upgrade our primal brain that says this man is leading us into battle.

Another part of the problem is seeing everything as gendered.

So there’s no Scientists trying to make the world a better place. Yay!

There’s male scientists trying to make the world a better place.

….

OK, everyone else go home and fuck the cure for cancer?

Like, what do you hope to achieve here? Rah-rahing your pompoms for part of the group?

Why do they have to do that? Ruin everything?

Supposedly, accounting for this bias statistically (with mathematical models and quotas) makes companies more efficient and meritocratic.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/workplace-gender-quotas-incompetence-efficiency-business-organisations-london-school-economics-lse-a7797061.html
“Quotas can work to weed out incompetent men.”

Everyone should be overjoyed by that.

Less stupid people with power, who cares if they have a banana or fig down there?
You’d have to be really insecure to identify strongly with someone who shares a single pair of chromosomes.

HBR has noted incompetent men being promoted on the basis of bravado is an issue for companies.
https://hbr.org/2013/08/why-do-so-many-incompetent-men
Bravado and popularity over actual performance metrics.

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/men-and-women-biased-about-studies-stem-gender-bias-opposite-directions/
“The new study’s authors reasoned that men especially might devalue the evidence because it threatens the legitimacy of their status in science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) fields. Men might also be critical because of prior beliefs that gender bias is not a problem in STEM.”
But they’re proving any bias by believing that female competence is a fairytale.
Those women take exactly the same exams.
Oh, it hurts their ego? Broflakes.

“Men rated the research quality of the abstract less favorably than did women in both samples. This gender gap was especially large for STEM faculty, potentially suggesting that evidence of bias might threaten men in STEM seeking to retain their status.”
“When reading these results, a male scientist might think, “oh my gosh…if we’re going to fix this equality issue, that almost necessarily means that there’s going to be fewer opportunities for men,” said Ian Handley, lead author of the new PNAS paper and associate professor of psychology at Montana State. Handley suggested that discounting evidence more likely reflects a subtle, unconscious process than overt sexism.”
Read Freud, there’s no subtle.
They just lie about it.
The depressing thing is that STEM helps everyone and there’s literally a shortage of talent.
We can’t afford to lose any talent.
People who took it for the money though, can fuck right off.

“This mixed literature tempers the paper’s claims about strong gender bias. But obviously, the paper’s central goal was not to systematically review literature on gender bias, but rather to present studies of reactions to evidence of bias.”
“Based on the best current data, remaining challenges include sexual harassment, bias in teaching evaluations and science mentoring, and gender stereotypes about innate genius and creativity.”
That last one is part of the Genius Famine.

Women can’t be the ‘crazy’ sex and also suddenly the less creative one when studies show they’re linked.

“The new PNAS study shows that men, on average, are less likely to believe this evidence of gender bias where it exists. And that’s a concern, considering men are the current majority of STEM professors. But it’s also a concern if the evidence of gender bias is overhyped. Overhyped claims could make these fields unattractive to women or even make people less likely to believe evidence of bias when it does exist.”

Be honest in science, the musical.

Link: Gaslighting in marriage – why it’s wrong

It isn’t purely men that do this but in a marriage, I’ve never heard of a woman doing it.

https://blogs.psychcentral.com/relationships/2016/01/20-situations-in-which-men-gaslight-women/

Those ‘redpill husbands’ claiming this is prosocial domination are covering for their antisocial, divorce-causing behaviour.

In a 1998 study of 130 newlywed couples designed to explore predictors of divorce or marital stability, marriage researcher and author Dr. John Gottman and colleagues, labeled this observed behavior of husbands — as “bat-em-back” — due to the force with which husbands automatically acted to cut off any attempts of wives to influence. To the researchers, this intentional behavior was likened to that of a baseball player at the plate, ever ready to “bat” a home run.

This and subsequent studies found that a husband’s “refusal to accept influence from his wife” — in effect, gaslighting — is highly predictive of divorce. On the bright side, findings also showed that a husband’s “acceptance of influence from his wife” is even more predictive of a stable and happy marriage.

Essentially he’s depriving her of her role, refusing to allow her to support him.
Well, if you didn’t want support, why aren’t you single?
If you hate the feminine, why legally and spiritually bind yourself to it?

Are the abusers honest about this fact? No.
Never. They’d lose control. You cannot cooperate with someone who wants to destroy you.
They don’t care about the marriage bond and they certainly don’t care about the other spouse.
In Biblical terms, they are letting the team down on the cherish part of the vow.

Naturally, the problem here is not male partners, rather the social conditioning that trains men to anxiously feel they have to prove masculinity on the basis of how different they are from women — and in general that means avoiding the “soft” stuff their female partners want, such as romance, nonsexual touch, doing things she wants or likes (without feeling emasculated), etc.

Anyone who does that whipped sound, you can tell they’re bad with women.
Love is a verb. Do or do not do.

Culturally speaking, we don’t trust that a baby boy will grow to become a man in the same way that an acorn becomes an oak tree. We expect men to be on guard throughout their lives to prove they are the “real” thing, and not “sissies” or “gay” and the like. And men’s fears are real; everyone is “watching,” male and female, ready to shame them to get back on track. (This shaming has intensified in last two decades.)

As Ali notes, gaslighting is a result of social conditioning rooted in a set of beliefs regarding gender roles and masculinity, such as that:

  • Women’s opinions don’t hold as much weight.

  • Women’s wants should not be treated as legitimate.

  • Men should never express regret when their actions have caused pain.

aka psychopath

Who doesn’t want to live with a psycho?

Geez, no wonder they divorce the bastard.

If they really believed any of those false beliefs, they would never, ever marry.
They’d rather die on the end of a shotgun.

I don’t think the men who do this realize – if we brought back fault-divorce, men would lose because dissolution is normally their fault. It’s a failure of EQ on their part. That’s also why they refuse therapy, they don’t want to change, like a toddler. They’d rather hurt/weaken or lose the spouse.

“Hamstering” explained as bullshit;

Because women are conditioned to collaborate and empathize, this tactic can send a woman’s brain into an exhaustive wheel-spinning mode of explaining, complaining, crying, begging, pleading, etc. (and women’s socialization leaves them more susceptible …),  and deceive a man’s brain into making several false, misleading (and unfortunate) conclusions.

Victim blaming, hilarious. Note that they’re fine around normal people though. It’s mere proximity to the loser who feels the need to throw around diagnoses like a Munchausen by Proxy (Woe is me because of them) that’s the real issue.

For one, they interpret the effectiveness of this thought control tactic to silence their partner’s voice as “proof” of men’s superiority, rightful dominance, strength and intelligence compared women’s, etc., and thus get tricked into relying on a tactic that harms their relationship, and gradually pushes their partner away.

They crave attention, spew bullshit, get what they wanted – but it’s the woman’s fault?
Amazing magic trick.
The dumbass doesn’t know he’s conditioning women not to provide him affection.

That’s a level of retard I’ve never seen.

In truth, gaslighting is a major obstacle to forming a healthy, vibrant couple relationship — emotional intimacy. For most female partners, for example, a failure to build emotional intimacy often means a gradual loss of interest in sex.

Literally the manosphere.

Women don’t want me – how is this their fault?

But while discussing their relationships, you can never, ever talk about them.

Guess the common factor.

Guess the problem.

Are men smarter than women?

If you wanna play the IQ game.

Ignoring the loaded question…

https://web.archive.org/web/20081024213354/http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2005/edition_07-17-2005/featured_0

“Just a glance at these bright high-achievers—men and women who have made their mark in an array of fields—tells us that intelligence is complex and multi-dimensional. Comparing one to the other is like comparing apples and oranges.”

And five points or whatever else group-level is nothing in statistics.
Literally, no-thing, especially when you’re trying to apply it to individuals.

How do they teach you social science stats theory in America?
Crayons?
There’s a list of things you can’t do with every construct.
Like how you can’t apply the current tests to historical figures. It just doesn’t work. They try but the margin of error is larger.

It’s like saying which tree is better, an oak or a palm?
Cats or dogs?
Red or blue?
Old flag or new flag?

It’s a matter of taste and you know either side debating tends to want a reason to feel superior without actually doing anything. This merits disdain.

The ignorance of many supposedly educated white American men denying historical female achievement against all odds (legal bans, witch convictions etc.) makes it worse for people who learnt history under a decent education system. This isn’t anything to do with non-IQ ‘genius’ – real world accomplishment, creativity. The IQ test doesn’t measure creativity but there’s a little correlation. Any more and Asians wouldn’t score a little higher. The worst mislabelling is ‘genius’ on an IQ sheet – it’s even below gifted! That isn’t the cultural use at all! But academics want to posture so they stole the term that retains its original and ancient meanings. There’s a measurement error when it becomes academic dick-measuring.
https://listsurge.com/top-10-women-with-highest-iq-in-the-world/
After about 170, it becomes blurry for adults and you must rely on IRL achievements.

It’s a deviation from the mean, from about 130 (2SD), it practically means an exponential curve that nobody is quite sure how to distinguish. There are specialist tests but experts differ on whether that measures ‘g’, the same, or if it’s something entirely different.

The only valid, Binet test wasn’t oriented to find ‘genius’ so the fact it cannot isn’t a weakness.

It was designed to find 1. retardation 2. in children to 3. help them 4. at school 5. to cope 6. with the work.

Applying it elsewhere is a major form of credentialism. Like knowing pi to X digits or collecting masters degrees.

Who cares?

If you could use it, you would.

This is Marilyn at her peak, btw.

Reminds me of Jennifer Connolly here.

Remember how I mentioned looks correlate to real intelligence?

Genetic load, QED, imho.

Anyone who can parse the data would know racial differences are huge, sex differences in this arena are minor and trivial, if you just sum the area under the curve… women win.
Does it matter? Still no.

If your brains are in your penis, you need to read a book.

inb4 the Guinness World Records people are ruthless on anything numbers, they have higher standards than any University, so her record was nothing to sneer at.

menwhatwomenwant

“Women are crazy” pushers – perhaps you’re too dumb to understand us? Nor take two minutes to listen.