Da Wimminz

1,900 words. Good ones. Get a drink.

Only a weak man blames women for inaction.
A decent one knows the man should act for himself.

We could point out many things in a democracy, as a majority.

Considering most violent crimes are conducted by men, I don’t think you’d like it.

The broflakes are too sensitive.
Strangely, the ‘war on women’ has become real. The men who reject their role to lead society or defend anyone, even themselves, point to their genetic kin and cry ‘lazy’. Ah, projection.

It’s da wimminz fault!

No.

You still have to grow up, Peter Pan.
The libertarian arguments (and libertarianism) for multiculturalism/cheap labour, protrude from male corners. All-male corners. Your own sex betrayed you, and you betrayed yourselves in the cowardice to admit this fact.

Where to blame?

It’s either generational, for varying reasons of voting cycle and cultural change or it’s civic. Pro- or the anti-social. Men and women need one another to survive. You’re not just shooting yourself in the foot, but the balls.
Losers notwithstanding.
Men evolved on average for certain tasks, expecting them is not “gynocentrism”, pushed by a bitter Boomer divorcee, it’s the dimorphic specialization of evolutionary biology. It keeps society functional. Biology prefers the life-giving sex, before humans came along.

If you want gender roles, start with yourself.

So-called men say childbirth is nothing to a kick, but don’t want medical advances to do the easy job of growing and carrying to term. Uhuh. Easier than a pod though, isn’t it? Actually possible.

I notice men aren’t willing to bear and raise their own children. Too painful?
You might have to go out less with the boys? #lostboys
Stefan M seems pretty happy in his marriage, Elam’s just sore his marriage sucked. It sucked because he was the one who chose it, directed it (as the male party) and ruined it.

Like some people can’t drive, some people shouldn’t marry.

People treat pop culture like Bible studies too. That disturbs me. Fandom philosophy BS.
Crying into a camera won’t change the world. Teaching the truth about it… a formidable enemy. Truth does not equal conspiracy. We know how shitty this world is, we live here. What works, what came before, what was goodness and why.

You teach principles – logical/moral/legal/historical, you nag with opinions.
And don’t make the classic error of acting like America = Teh World.

Identity politics for men, white men especially, will never work.
Why? It’s like a poker player with the best hand complaining it could be better.
They’re spoiled brats. The Charlottesville lot in their gay little shorts weren’t working class were they? They weren’t out producing anything of worth to society (oh, that looks like the terrifying specter of hard work!). No women either, they didn’t forget they had obligations. Family > Race. (see end) You can’t help anyone unless you self-care and build up yourself as a rock first. You have no authority to draw upon. You’re like the trust fund baby champagne socialists of the left. Lazybones, the lot of yer.
Look around and grow some perspective you accuse everyone else of lacking.

1.It’s not about you.

2.Compared to everyone else, you’re doing really well. Crap is the new normal.

Why aren’t more women in politics? You don’t want us there?

You complain about suicide rates. Isn’t that a choice? Isn’t there a ‘retirement plan’ around that decision? If it’s so terrible, and you suddenly value the human soul, shouldn’t it be a crime again, along with abortion? Or is killing an unborn man acceptable?

You need to be consistent or don’t be shocked nobody listens.
What is the way to win here, for men and women? What do you actually want? How does a functional society operate? Envisaging oppression and systemic slavery of women to get hard about won’t work, has never been real (send proof otherwise), we’ll simply stop working, the economy will grind to a halt because most white women aren’t ghetto trash supporting 4 kids by 3 babydaddies. But for supporting ourselves, like adults, you still insult us. WTF do you want? To bitch. That’s all. Useless bitches.

Women in the workplace was fine, for many centuries. (nb. American history isn’t the only history for white people). The problems started with various types of immigration, which were and remain, largely male. If you’d side with a foreign man over white women, don’t pretend to care for “our” interests. Immigration drove wages down, if you look it up. Women were responsible for economic growth, including wage growth. At the very least, husbands could afford to work longer hours if they knew the woman was running the house, a form of labour. America wouldn’t have won WW2 if its women didn’t work. If a man wants to be a stay at home father because he’s good at it, an outlier, why not? Where is your meritocracy while you whine about freedoms?

Consistency! Your American Dreams for consistency!

Your Independence Day is a joke, your country went to the dogs after you booted out your white kin from power for a melting pot social experiment. ..Can a welfare-dogged society really be called independent?

Why are women statistically more clinically depressed? Men do not listen to reason.

That is the definition of stupid.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/stupid

Having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.

Hiveminds stagnate. Don’t take on low IQ muh dicks or your movement dies.

Whataboutism re men is also invalid. It’s changing the subject, derailing is an indicator of someone without an argument. You don’t actually want to discuss problems women have, you expect them to magically go away if you ignore them, like the politicians we despise.

Common one?

Workplace deaths are higher, choosing dangerous fields higher, recklessness, higher.

#notanargument

Those are choices.

You are not soldiers, you are not coal-miners, you are ineffectual crybabies riding the coat-tails of your ancestors who can do nothing but whine like a snowflake that you’re too special to try like the rest of us (inc. women) and that, in spite of living in the Easiest Society Ever, in history, you have still failed to be an adult.

The problems of white women are also white problems, equally valid as the men’s.

You want our support? Ya gotta cooperate with the other members of your group.

Our mutual enemies delight in seeing white men throw their women under the bus. It’s probably a terrorist bus too. The group you need to survive is the one you should never turn on. If you’re a, what’s the term, “race traitor”, or if you’re a “genetic suicide”, you never cared, you just want a soapbox. Born with the other set of genitals, you’d be a fully paid up SJW.

Hm, why don’t women (the biologically, heavily investing sex) want to have children in the age of abusive/cheating/deadbeat husbands/fathers? In the anti-natal culture that offers abortion as soon as you’re told you’re pregnant because it’s assumed the father doesn’t want to raise it and lauds minors as fuckbuddies on the Pill whoring themselves out for drinks and impoverished mistresses known as ‘side chicks’? Before cuckoldry became a popular, pomo fetish, there were plenty of cuckqueans. Women didn’t like it much either. Yes, adultery is wrong! What was the demographic of the Ashley Madison hack again? Yes, it should be punished.

With harsher divorce laws. Why are you even allowed to re-marry when you broke a vow, you can’t renege on student loans but you can abandon your family? WTF is that America? Women file for divorce more often…. but why? The head of the house-hold is a failure. Go ahead, protect marriage. You’d be protecting everyone, but everyone includes women. If you hate/blame women that much, that makes us a scapegoat. Scapegoats are innocent by definition.

Who causes most of the problems, mathematically? You never ask that. Poor baby.

Never dare…

Sexual disgust is far higher in which sex? Women.

…So which sex is degenerate? Men.

Backed by, oh, I dunno, paraphilia studies? Pedophilia studies? Rape data? Basically all of the data we have? Continue to deny reality, because it hurts your egocentric quest to Fix the World without working on yourself and your atrocious impulse control.

Why don’t women with their heads screwed on wanna breed with a man who won’t Man Up?

It’s a MYSTERY, guys.

When men fail their role, women quit the game too! Astounding!

And, if men don’t owe women their finances if they don’t want to marry, why do women supposedly “owe” sex? And how pathetic is it to be a pity fuck, on the subject of ego-trips? An AA orgy for omega men too proud to just masturbate and accept they’re undesirable specimens. You want ladies, in society? Well, they won’t be your whores then, and if you expect otherwise, there’s something wrong with you. Standards do not a ‘bitch’ make. Be consistent.

Which came first, the men fucking around since time immemorial without adequate Biblical consequences, or the Sexual Revolution where more women did it too? Where was the mistake?

Double standards are meaningless. Societies collapse in chaos. If a rich man can shoot you but you can’t shoot him…. well…. isn’t that what’s happening? To interpret Darwin in bad faith is a naturalistic fallacy. Men are not like other animals, they are meant to control themselves.

On Peterson, the little troll.

Clean your room is misunderstood as a meme. Take responsibility when the fault lies with you. Women imitate the moral calibre of their men. You done fucked up, sons.

The meme you blindly love? I didn’t explain it on purpose before. Was funny watching idiots parrot it, oblivious to the fact it was intended for them.

It’s a reference to a proverb, well-known in England;

Sweep before your own door ~John Ray, English Proverbs, p. 135 (1678)
http://forum.quoteland.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/99191541/m/1151077311

translation.

You are responsible for yourself and those you take on (wife and kids, the commitment part??) not some weasel word saving the world bullshit. You can’t save jack shit if you can’t save yourself.

And hypothetically, in a thought experiment, let’s say women were weak, like children.

Is punching down at children acceptable in a civilized society? Ya feel manly?

Cucks are bad, cowards are worse. Men cause many of society’s problems and also are the sex to typically resolve them with society’s graces, historically. Sadly, tragically, historically.

We can deal with Sharia. We can deal with the cucks. [Is the average cuck male or female?]

The punishment for cowards, who knew better? Way worse.

It’s going to be much worse.

You want a model to protest on? Protest is a waste of time, you need to develop political power by actually building things first, but here:

One guy at a protest was counter-protesting in a suit and top hat. I think this was OWS. They knocked off his top hat, some random phag took it and you know how fast guys in fringed Afghan scarves can run. Anyway, the guy disappeared calmly round a corner and re-emerged, moments later, in a fresh, new top hat. Like nothing ever happened.

To this day, that BAMF is the smoothest protester I have ever heard of.

End – is there a generic “white race” or racial category for forensic subraces, plural?

But this is the thing – why should other white people listen to you when people can’t even agree on what they are? And should the genetic studies of countries like Britons be lumped in with the Italians? Sicilians??? There is a slight porous quality to whites, because of sex slavery for starters. There are subraces, in forensics e.g. Basque, Celt, whatever, and to overshoot into White only, denies that and denies the kin blood ties of direct family and the genome of the self. Perpetuation of a race is emergent, not deliberate, the human drive is close kin and the owned genome.

And if you won’t ensure your own survival and success, as a member of your group/race/nation, you cannot claim with any intellectual honesty to care about the rest of the population either.

You tailspin into ruin because you reject the majority of your allies.
The West isn’t a treehouse.

How did UK women vote in 2017?

+5% conservative on the last election.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/06/13/how-britain-voted-2017-general-election/
Conservative leaning. Again.
Fuck you. Do your research before insulting us.

This election was literally split down the middle, unlike the past one I covered.
Why does this matter?
Record number of women standing and a record number of women not voting (reported 2015).
If you look at the most well-known left-leaning in sum, Labour+Lib Dems+SNP = 51% of men voted for the far Lefties.
Men are not getting smarter.

Shall we revoke their suffrage?
On what grounds?
The right to vote includes the right to abstain or vote stupid.
In this case, suicidal.

Ah, but this wasn’t predicted, say the wrong people.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/demographics-dividing-britain/

“However, these two things cancelled each other out meaning that ultimately the Conservatives polled about the same amongst both men and women. Going into the 2017 election women are, if anything, slightly more (three percentage points) likely overall to vote Tory.”

Quit blaming us. It’s the working class men and the signalling middle.
The margins are so wafer-thin if you got those in order, there’d be no problem.

As you can see in that article and the first one, the classes vote more reliably than the sexes, and the races even more than that (for more/less Gov).
Women were never really banned from voting, that’s another piece of American BS.
Choose a new meme, you look silly to anyone who looks this up.
https://disenchantedscholar.wordpress.com/2016/01/20/womens-suffrage-is-a-feminist-frame-actually-universal/

Never listen to the dregs

comment credit _svd

Why would you listen to drags on anything, anyway? Majority of modern men are shite, that’s why historically 60% of our kind (and 20% women) never procreated during sexual free market of pre-agriculture, and that’s why we are so mad about forming hierarchies. But now, we are weak, spoiled brats, even the best of us. And of course that means that women are shite too. You can’t lower the standards for half the species; men and women constantly involved into mutual conditioning.

It is too easy for the boys. Boys must never have it easy, or they will stay boys forever.

We shouldn’t listen to the dregs and keep our banners high. They always back-rationalise their losership. “Women are not ladies, hence I’m not interested, hence the fact that they ignore me is ok, because I wouldn’t accept their attention anyway”. Yeah, right.

Women are no longer obedient housewives from 1950s, rushing to make you that sandwich wearing only an apron (you can remember your grandma, right? Was she ANYWHERE close to that?)? I hear you pain, pal, you being a man from 1950s, who muddled through Great Depression with a wife and three kids, and now got back straight from your voluntary shift on Normandy beaches with a shrapnel in you hand only to see no decent women around!

Weak; and soft; and spoiled; and bitter; and entitled. All of us.

I finally worked through my backlog of comments from pre-hols. Another few slipped through the suspicious net.

The majority were lovely but the few crazies Missing The Point remind me why I hate the internet. No test for use. It’s always the posts about psychiatry and abuse that bring out the crazies. Never post about BPD or ADD or domestic abuse or sexual harassment unless you’re prepared to confront true cray.

It’s worth it for the smart ones.

I commented: They refuse to accept the duties with maturity. Adulthood means parenthood. Ready to screw, ready to follow through.

_svd

Well, The Pill and abortion tipped the balance here.

But then again it only applies if you are a “tis not fair!!!!!1!” kind of … ma… male.

My thoughts on this: men rarely have any deep ambitions of our own to follow and mature on the way. Most often, we have to be pushed by our needs, maturing during interaction with harsh environment (i.e. mass-poverty until 60s or so) and by fulfilling enforced obligations (early marriage as a social expectation; caring about your elders and siblings – and of course of yourself).

But now there’s nothing of it left. What’s in place though is:
* parental support well into late 20s – because your parents only have you – and maybe one more, but not 12; and they can afford to work in their 60s. Mine kicked me out of the door at 15 (to Uni), and stop paying my rent at 19, when I took a part-time job.
* sexual liberation: she’ll put out for nice set of pecs and abs; you don’t have to really be masculine, just apply some masculinity make up – fake self-confidence, learned ZFG attitude and ripped muscles from local gym. She’ll see through it after a month, sure, but you’d be tapping next ass by then. All in all – no commitment have to be paid to acquire sex. Girls screwed the role of being the gatekeepers to sex with nice “if you want to be a ‘housewife’ in your 30s, you’ll have to start with ‘ho’ in your teens” model they’ve been provided with by “society”.
* massive welfare state that picks up the smithereens. People are bailed out of the consequences of their bad choices – so they keep doing more o them.

You need to add some real stress to the system to change the pattern. And it will probably take a few decades.

Women hate the pretty ones

http://time.com/2979618/women-red-sexual-threat/

“derogation”

Yes, I’ve been on the receiving end of that.

Bullies always think they’re subtle when their tactics rely on it being the opposite, forceful.

I think the casual clothing arms race was about not getting bullied.
All this nude makeup and clothing signals conformity.

Covering up the natural red of the lips and literally being a beige person.

Great for getting otherwise petty friends.

Man repellent.

Why are there so few right-wing women?

The word ‘bitch’ is thrown around a lot.
Lack of social support is right up there.
Being insulted by both left and right doesn’t help.
Being called fake by men who are intimidated….

I mean, there’s basically no positive reason to do it.

At all.

Not one.

This is why neutral women play dumb.

We expect the men to lead and sort it out, since they clearly don’t want us.

They’re vocal about that.

Are men smarter than women?

If you wanna play the IQ game.

Ignoring the loaded question…

https://web.archive.org/web/20081024213354/http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2005/edition_07-17-2005/featured_0

“Just a glance at these bright high-achievers—men and women who have made their mark in an array of fields—tells us that intelligence is complex and multi-dimensional. Comparing one to the other is like comparing apples and oranges.”

And five points or whatever else group-level is nothing in statistics.
Literally, no-thing, especially when you’re trying to apply it to individuals.

How do they teach you social science stats theory in America?
Crayons?
There’s a list of things you can’t do with every construct.
Like how you can’t apply the current tests to historical figures. It just doesn’t work. They try but the margin of error is larger.

It’s like saying which tree is better, an oak or a palm?
Cats or dogs?
Red or blue?
Old flag or new flag?

It’s a matter of taste and you know either side debating tends to want a reason to feel superior without actually doing anything. This merits disdain.

The ignorance of many supposedly educated white American men denying historical female achievement against all odds (legal bans, witch convictions etc.) makes it worse for people who learnt history under a decent education system. This isn’t anything to do with non-IQ ‘genius’ – real world accomplishment, creativity. The IQ test doesn’t measure creativity but there’s a little correlation. Any more and Asians wouldn’t score a little higher. The worst mislabelling is ‘genius’ on an IQ sheet – it’s even below gifted! That isn’t the cultural use at all! But academics want to posture so they stole the term that retains its original and ancient meanings. There’s a measurement error when it becomes academic dick-measuring.
https://listsurge.com/top-10-women-with-highest-iq-in-the-world/
After about 170, it becomes blurry for adults and you must rely on IRL achievements.

It’s a deviation from the mean, from about 130 (2SD), it practically means an exponential curve that nobody is quite sure how to distinguish. There are specialist tests but experts differ on whether that measures ‘g’, the same, or if it’s something entirely different.

The only valid, Binet test wasn’t oriented to find ‘genius’ so the fact it cannot isn’t a weakness.

It was designed to find 1. retardation 2. in children to 3. help them 4. at school 5. to cope 6. with the work.

Applying it elsewhere is a major form of credentialism. Like knowing pi to X digits or collecting masters degrees.

Who cares?

If you could use it, you would.

This is Marilyn at her peak, btw.

Reminds me of Jennifer Connolly here.

Remember how I mentioned looks correlate to real intelligence?

Genetic load, QED, imho.

Anyone who can parse the data would know racial differences are huge, sex differences in this arena are minor and trivial, if you just sum the area under the curve… women win.
Does it matter? Still no.

If your brains are in your penis, you need to read a book.

inb4 the Guinness World Records people are ruthless on anything numbers, they have higher standards than any University, so her record was nothing to sneer at.

menwhatwomenwant

“Women are crazy” pushers – perhaps you’re too dumb to understand us? Nor take two minutes to listen.