Never listen to the dregs

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Why would you listen to drags on anything, anyway? Majority of modern men are shite, that’s why historically 60% of our kind (and 20% women) never procreated during sexual free market of pre-agriculture, and that’s why we are so mad about forming hierarchies. But now, we are weak, spoiled brats, even the best of us. And of course that means that women are shite too. You can’t lower the standards for half the species; men and women constantly involved into mutual conditioning.

It is too easy for the boys. Boys must never have it easy, or they will stay boys forever.

We shouldn’t listen to the dregs and keep our banners high. They always back-rationalise their losership. “Women are not ladies, hence I’m not interested, hence the fact that they ignore me is ok, because I wouldn’t accept their attention anyway”. Yeah, right.

Women are no longer obedient housewives from 1950s, rushing to make you that sandwich wearing only an apron (you can remember your grandma, right? Was she ANYWHERE close to that?)? I hear you pain, pal, you being a man from 1950s, who muddled through Great Depression with a wife and three kids, and now got back straight from your voluntary shift on Normandy beaches with a shrapnel in you hand only to see no decent women around!

Weak; and soft; and spoiled; and bitter; and entitled. All of us.

I finally worked through my backlog of comments from pre-hols. Another few slipped through the suspicious net.

The majority were lovely but the few crazies Missing The Point remind me why I hate the internet. No test for use. It’s always the posts about psychiatry and abuse that bring out the crazies. Never post about BPD or ADD or domestic abuse or sexual harassment unless you’re prepared to confront true cray.

It’s worth it for the smart ones.

I commented: They refuse to accept the duties with maturity. Adulthood means parenthood. Ready to screw, ready to follow through.

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Well, The Pill and abortion tipped the balance here.

But then again it only applies if you are a “tis not fair!!!!!1!” kind of … ma… male.

My thoughts on this: men rarely have any deep ambitions of our own to follow and mature on the way. Most often, we have to be pushed by our needs, maturing during interaction with harsh environment (i.e. mass-poverty until 60s or so) and by fulfilling enforced obligations (early marriage as a social expectation; caring about your elders and siblings – and of course of yourself).

But now there’s nothing of it left. What’s in place though is:
* parental support well into late 20s – because your parents only have you – and maybe one more, but not 12; and they can afford to work in their 60s. Mine kicked me out of the door at 15 (to Uni), and stop paying my rent at 19, when I took a part-time job.
* sexual liberation: she’ll put out for nice set of pecs and abs; you don’t have to really be masculine, just apply some masculinity make up – fake self-confidence, learned ZFG attitude and ripped muscles from local gym. She’ll see through it after a month, sure, but you’d be tapping next ass by then. All in all – no commitment have to be paid to acquire sex. Girls screwed the role of being the gatekeepers to sex with nice “if you want to be a ‘housewife’ in your 30s, you’ll have to start with ‘ho’ in your teens” model they’ve been provided with by “society”.
* massive welfare state that picks up the smithereens. People are bailed out of the consequences of their bad choices – so they keep doing more o them.

You need to add some real stress to the system to change the pattern. And it will probably take a few decades.

Women hate the pretty ones

http://time.com/2979618/women-red-sexual-threat/

“derogation”

Yes, I’ve been on the receiving end of that.

Bullies always think they’re subtle when their tactics rely on it being the opposite, forceful.

I think the casual clothing arms race was about not getting bullied.
All this nude makeup and clothing signals conformity.

Covering up the natural red of the lips and literally being a beige person.

Great for getting otherwise petty friends.

Man repellent.

Why are there so few right-wing women?

The word ‘bitch’ is thrown around a lot.
Lack of social support is right up there.
Being insulted by both left and right doesn’t help.
Being called fake by men who are intimidated….

I mean, there’s basically no positive reason to do it.

At all.

Not one.

This is why neutral women play dumb.

We expect the men to lead and sort it out, since they clearly don’t want us.

They’re vocal about that.

Are men smarter than women?

If you wanna play the IQ game.

Ignoring the loaded question…

https://web.archive.org/web/20081024213354/http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2005/edition_07-17-2005/featured_0

“Just a glance at these bright high-achievers—men and women who have made their mark in an array of fields—tells us that intelligence is complex and multi-dimensional. Comparing one to the other is like comparing apples and oranges.”

And five points or whatever else group-level is nothing in statistics.
Literally, no-thing, especially when you’re trying to apply it to individuals.

How do they teach you social science stats theory in America?
Crayons?
There’s a list of things you can’t do with every construct.
Like how you can’t apply the current tests to historical figures. It just doesn’t work. They try but the margin of error is larger.

It’s like saying which tree is better, an oak or a palm?
Cats or dogs?
Red or blue?
Old flag or new flag?

It’s a matter of taste and you know either side debating tends to want a reason to feel superior without actually doing anything. This merits disdain.

The ignorance of many supposedly educated white American men denying historical female achievement against all odds (legal bans, witch convictions etc.) makes it worse for people who learnt history under a decent education system. This isn’t anything to do with non-IQ ‘genius’ – real world accomplishment, creativity. The IQ test doesn’t measure creativity but there’s a little correlation. Any more and Asians wouldn’t score a little higher. The worst mislabelling is ‘genius’ on an IQ sheet – it’s even below gifted! That isn’t the cultural use at all! But academics want to posture so they stole the term that retains its original and ancient meanings. There’s a measurement error when it becomes academic dick-measuring.
https://listsurge.com/top-10-women-with-highest-iq-in-the-world/
After about 170, it becomes blurry for adults and you must rely on IRL achievements.

It’s a deviation from the mean, from about 130 (2SD), it practically means an exponential curve that nobody is quite sure how to distinguish. There are specialist tests but experts differ on whether that measures ‘g’, the same, or if it’s something entirely different.

The only valid, Binet test wasn’t oriented to find ‘genius’ so the fact it cannot isn’t a weakness.

It was designed to find 1. retardation 2. in children to 3. help them 4. at school 5. to cope 6. with the work.

Applying it elsewhere is a major form of credentialism. Like knowing pi to X digits or collecting masters degrees.

Who cares?

If you could use it, you would.

This is Marilyn at her peak, btw.

Reminds me of Jennifer Connolly here.

Remember how I mentioned looks correlate to real intelligence?

Genetic load, QED, imho.

Anyone who can parse the data would know racial differences are huge, sex differences in this arena are minor and trivial, if you just sum the area under the curve… women win.
Does it matter? Still no.

If your brains are in your penis, you need to read a book.

inb4 the Guinness World Records people are ruthless on anything numbers, they have higher standards than any University, so her record was nothing to sneer at.

menwhatwomenwant

“Women are crazy” pushers – perhaps you’re too dumb to understand us? Nor take two minutes to listen.

Woman of the future 1900

http://clickamericana.com/media/newspapers/the-woman-of-the-future-1900
“This boasted civilization of ours falls to pieces when stripped of its veneering and reveals man’s innate evil propensities in all their hideousness….”

The original good intentions of feminism – to contribute and prevent war deaths.

And by contribute to the workforce, I mean improve everyone’s lives.
AKA the purpose of capitalism.

http://clickamericana.com/eras/1890s/the-woman-who-invented-the-dishwasher-1892

Half a century later.
http://clickamericana.com/topics/love-marriage/census-indicates-romance-on-the-rise-1950
“There are fewer unmarried men at large than there have been for years and years.”
“Women are more likely to marry men about three years their senior.”

Many people lie about these time periods but cannot provide a scrap of conclusive evidence that these people were the way they claim.

“Women used to be ladies”

The latest meme making an irritating entrance into popular thought.

TLDR; read bolded.

It’s intended to insult clubbing culture (fine, ban clubs, otherwise, STFU about them).

Like most memes appealing to history, it’s misled at best, misleading at worst.

Rewind to the earliest times with video.
Ladies have fun too. Anything less is an overhanging lie from the Sexual Revolution.

“Yes but women used to be demure and coy, they didn’t dress and act like sluts.”

It is ironic the modern man has such a lax definition, as if looking at a man ‘the wrong way’ is slutty.

Women have always ‘made eyes’ at men, because we have eyes. When we use them, we’re accused of making eyes because studies show men are acutely sensitive to social overtures from women.


Maybe, just maybe, the nature of people doesn’t change much over time, and not everything is about you and how hard done-by you are? The term for that is a victim complex.
Look up the Evelyn Nesbit scandal, it was their OJ.
They even had versions of the Kardashians, pin-up girls before pin-ups, which really date back to the 18th century and painted adverts. If you believe any advert, it’s a de-facto IQ test and you lost.


Maybe read some social history before acting like you understand all women?

Especially those in other time periods.

^If that were true, you’d be a billionaire selling us bullshit. Advertising people understand people.

Funnily enough, women tend to be up on social history, so I find a meme that relies on our collective ignorance of it rather entertaining. The average woman knows as much social history trivia as a man knows military.

In perfect truth, such males want to castigate degeneracy without drawing attention to their own.

Let alone limiting it. R-types playing K.

This is intellectually dishonest, an argument based on bad rhetoric, bad faith, historical ignorance and makes for a coward. If you’re irritated that, in a world where sex is freer than ever, you still cannot get laid, perhaps the problem is not the people you fail to impress?

Maybe the problem is that you keep bitching like a gay guy.

Don’t look at a pretty woman and think the modern version of ‘ANKLE?!!!!‘ only to wonder why you’re labelled a creep and become a social leper. Offended people on this stuff are dull from birth.

Look and think ‘that’s nice’ and move on with your day because this superficial shit is not, by definition, important.

The women least likely to wear a miniskirt are prostitutes, because the goods are not given away for free.

Everything you know is wrong.

Ask a man with sisters if he judges their sexual desperation on what they wear.

Imagine if we applied the same judgementalism to men – all short-sleeve shirts are hereby signs of a gigolo. Shorts? Whore! Wear trousers like a proper man!

Only in the 20th century did it suddenly become acceptable (imho, no) for an adult man to wear shorts. It was considered ridiculous and you’d be mocked for it like turning up to a funeral in assless chaps, as was going topless until coal-miners striked because of job demands. This is the God’s honest truth. Look it all up. Shorts are literally the most immodest thing a man can wear, the male mini-skirt. It’s worse than a mini-skirt because things can play peek-a-boo. Short sleeves come in a close second and were taken up by the Italians with the sleeveless ‘wife-beater’ where they both should have been left, men couldn’t show their waistcoat at the beginning of the 20th Century.

Casual or modest, pick ONE.

I heard this meme from Clarey on YT years ago – he immediately began to criticize every modest fashion going, with an emphasis of vitriol for the maxi skirt. …That’s just a skirt. It’s a term for a proper skirt.

This stuck in my mind because I assumed it was a joke and waited for the punchline, the hypocrisy was so overt to a non-American. You have no idea what you want, but you know how much you want it!

He hated totally normal skirt lengths, pictured in the Edwardian videos, because it covered women up and he couldn’t ogle them, no more than five seconds after saying, to paraphrase- Why don’t women dress like ladies anymore?

The problem is male demand.

Male demand for risque fashions. Rappers are the main problem.

You can see how years of this from Kindergarten can make for avoidance of anyone who tries to pull it.

You can’t countersignal if nobody values your opinion to begin with. Look through the photos of the men saying these things and you’ll quickly realize they attract casual women because they are casual men. I haven’t seen a single one that owns a single (ONE) good suit. A good suit, by style standards and formality rules. Not a great suit, not an impressive suit, not an elegant suit, not a gentleman’s suit. A single decent item.

Which brings me to my next point: how do you intend to pay for that?

More fabric, more $$$$$. That is not a typo. A suitable wardrobe is 4-figures, a good one is five. This is based on wear and variety for activities. Being formal is more expensive, rappers lie.

Look at the guys making these claims about ladies. Are they gents?

Any woman looking at these guys will immediately notice the discrepancy, it’s like…

Which fork, Forney?

They have no clue of basic etiquette and try to prattle on like a stage mother.
They are alcoholics who couldn’t tell you the difference between a white wine and red wine goblet if their lives depended on it.

Nobody takes this ‘advice’ seriously. They have nothing to offer but opinion and personal complaint.

The funniest thing my society friends ever heard about women’s fashion was one drab man telling, loudly, anyone who would listen, that spaghetti straps were the sign of a slut.

This story still does the rounds and I’ve heard people quoting it without getting the joke.
Guess the nationality. Go on, guess. I think we all know.
Guess what he was wearing with his bad tan and fake Rolex he kept showing to people who could tell the difference.

These are the guys who refuse to buy a drink to assert interest (formal politeness) or buy a dinner they invited their intended to (the formal rule) but they want a woman with expensive taste?

Are you quite sure?

They slob around in t-shirts and shorts, in general, and wonder why the women draped in £3,000 Dolce don’t give them a second look. Class does come into it. The problem is, they have none.

Therefore, they refuse to see it as an issue…. because it IS the issue.

Women do not qualify to men. Eggs are expensive.

However, not looking like ‘Kevin the teenager’ helps.

Would you show up for a job interview wearing this? Are you using it for a sport? If the answer to both is NO, do NOT wear it out of the house and for the love of Christ get a good suit before you start spouting off on Patriarchy and the dire need of male leadership.

You don’t care how you look? Yes, it shows.

Hate sluttiness? Push to ban all contraception and sexual health clinics. Yes, all.

Hate immodest clothing? Push for Elizabethan clothing laws. Yes, in social history, there are many, many actual, literal laws that restricted things like length for modesty, and most women are aware of these. It would also mean strippers are illegal and you can’t pretend to be rich in clubs without actually being rich.

I don’t expect these guys to grow the balls, ..do you?

Conformity is a feminine virtue, as I mentioned earlier, so don’t blame all women for the actions or obscenity of singular examples, otherwise, all men are like Jack the Ripper; non sequiturs about men would be far more insulting.

Why aren’t women virtuous, they ask, not a virgin themselves.

Because none of the previous words will get through to ‘these’ people.

We mock idiots like you.